Hi,
In fairness of a scientific debate and analysis, it is a good idea to post some other pieces of information that come to light.
Clyve sent these images via email in order to back up his claims of a 'large tornado'. I have included his times and statements with respect to the images portrayed.
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Hi Jimmy as mentioned on our phone discussion I will send you stuff re the Ballarat/Skipton storms over the next few days, I don't know how to set up a video for the net but if not I will send you a DVD of the main sequence....
In this image taken around 1541hrsz it shows the 'tail end Charlie ( I say tail end Matilda)...This is the main inflow area and part of the left mover split. The rain behind is actually part of another storm..right moving and the northwest end can be seen. I positioned north of the storm and looking south/southwest.
In this image the very end of the line (northwest end) that extended well to the east with a large RFB, again in the distance the rain is from the right splitter in a video sequence the rear lowering is rotating cyclonically and it was here I thought some action may have started however the updraft pulses were moving east along the RFB then maturing down wind of the steering mid level flow.
In this image taken at 1546hrs the first funnel appeared but was short lived, I did not take still image of the rope that appeared further along the line to the east but did a video sequence of it...this funnel lasted about 2 minutes before rapid dissipation...C
This is one of the still images taken at 1550 hrs and shows the Tornado in full swing the tornado was rotating cyclonically and the wrap around banding can be seen on both sides of the tornado, I would estimate the motion towards the east/northeast around 40 or 50 kilometres per hour...
This a closer look at the tornado with associated accessary cloud elements, at this point about 1552 a skirt appeared lower down and the central rather broad funnel it was between 8 and 10 kilometres distant...
In this image the tornado is just about to dissipate there is still a connection to the ground but the overall size of the rotating area is large, note the collar along the top under the main RFB, the remains after this image became rain affected very quickly as the cell collapsed..
After the collapse of the tornadic storm a strong outflow followed and came around the rear of the main precip area to produce this veil that moved first north then northeast and finally headed east and later kicked off a strong storm east of Ballarat, I followed the outflow band from the Ballarat storm complex...
After following the Ballarat outflow this storm developed time 1846hrs (Among others) but by far was the strongest however I regard this storm as outflow dominated with a constant rear downburst pulse as each updraft matured then kicked back along the flanking line....best regards Clyve Herbert
You have my permission to put these images on your site if you want and use my comments if you wish...Images taken with a Canon 400D 18 to 55 lens set to auto....I will also retrieve captures from my Panasonic GS 300 with a capacity of 3.2 mg stills of the entire event...Clyve H
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I will allow others to comment.
What I would like to know is how long was this 'large tornado' on the ground? When diid this 'large tornado' become 'bell shaped' and almost a wedge status? These were claims made on the phone conversation. What comments did the Bureau have of this
Feel free to send the video and place online all unedited 11 minutes of it - we can certainly spare the bandwidth.
My point of view still stands that this feature occurs along as a result of what appears to be developing outflow. This is shelf cloud central and a nice shelf cloud in that.
I would still like to see the video before developing a proper picture.
Regards,
Jimmy Deguara
