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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:06:10 +1000 (EST) From: Paul GrahamTo: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Warwick Storm... Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting...I wonder who you spoke to? The reports I have heard tonight about this storm indicate the possibility of a tornado. Eyewitnesses talk of swirling clouds and the mayor descibed it as a mini-tornado. Perhaps the damage is indicative of straight line wind? - Paul. James Chambers wrote: I asked him about the damage in Warwick and straight line winds were responsible. There was no evidence of a tornado. Soon I hope to have a full report on the events of Tuesday, October 13 1998 on my site. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:21:13 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Warwick Storm... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'll answer this for James :-) Jeff Calaghan is the head of the QLD Severe Weather Department - but the problem is the media always calls any severe storms here a "mini tornado" or a "mini cyclone" My guess would be that the Warwick storm damage was predominantly caused by microbursts or perhaps even derecho's? Derecho's have been thought to blame for many damage paths that tornadoes didn't not create. Derecho's also tend to occur in bow echo storms... A note about the "sea breeze front" - our winds in the morning were N'ly, later in the morning they were NW'ly and towards the afternoon they were a stiff W'ly - but it was still very humid. NE'ly winds kicked in when the storm was very close - about 3-4km, I thought that this occurred because of the massive inflow from the storm. As some large storms can "change" the immediate weather around them to "suit" themselves. Perhaps this is what happened? Or perhaps it was a combination of both? Anthony Cornelius Paul Graham wrote: > Interesting...I wonder who you spoke to? The reports I have heard > tonight > about this storm indicate the possibility of a tornado. Eyewitnesses > talk > of swirling clouds and the mayor descibed it as a mini-tornado. > Perhaps > the damage is indicative of straight line wind? - Paul. > > James Chambers wrote: > I asked him about the damage in Warwick and straight line winds were > responsible. There was no evidence of a tornado. Soon I hope to have > a > full report on the events of Tuesday, October 13 1998 on my site. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aussie-weather: NT activity Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:21:01 +1000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 8am - have a look at the west coast of the Northern Territory!!! http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes 15 Oct 1998 20:32 UTC [4 km resolution] Looks pretty promising in Darwin also. http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html Melbourne - clear forecasting 22 today & 29 tomorrow with thunder with the change - don't really expect anything exciting with this, the only activity showing up so far is to the south of WA - nothing any closer. Humidity has been hovering around 70% for the last couple of days. Jane Melbourne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:53:21 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NT activity Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gday everybody! Jane - the Northern territory does appear promising, though rain is predicted rather than storms. Although it does appear to be organised, you would think that if that had formed say in the gulf or either side of Australia, they would be putting out TC Storm formation advices. To all those lucky enough to attend the AMOS meeting last night: how did it go? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm discussion Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:58:50 +1000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just look at the possibilities, we could rent ourselves out to farmers who want a weeks fine weather. Of course the farmer must realise that exactly one week after we finish our fine weather asignment a supercell will affect their property. Michael >I reply to myself here at midnight. I was at TAFE yesterday during the >Brissy Storms. I was so p....... off nobody dared to even talk to me. We >were up there in the last two weeks and nothing really much happened. The >so-called storm chaser curse. >Jimmy Deguara -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:07:54 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Upper air data Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, have you noticed that Darwin does not give the same amount of data readings as other sites. I checkd the figures this morning after Jane mentined that there was some activity around the area. I noticed that it provided only CAPE details, and not much else. ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: hdewit at postoffice.sa.bom.gov.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:09:34 +0900 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Warwick Storm... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:56 16/10/98 +1000, you wrote: >> problem is the media always calls any severe storms here a "mini >> tornado" or a "mini cyclone" My guess would be that the Warwick storm > >I thought it was interesting that eyewitness reports were of "swirling >clouds" but perhaps this was just turbulent scud with the storm front... >- Paul. I have looked at a few tornado damage trails and spoken to some eye-witnesses, all associated with fairly small tornados. The damage is usually in the direction of travel of the tornado, perhaps because these smaller tornados have significant translation speeds. In SA they are often associated with squall line systems, or post-frontal highly unstable environments. When we have spoken to eye-witnesses, they usually only describe the 'thing' that hit them as a black cloud, or a huge wind. The rotational nature is either not apparent or the last thing that they are thinking of. The evidence that is most convincing that the damage is tornadic, is the narrowness and total length of the damage path, eg about width of 40M and length of 1KM or so. I have been surprised with the relationship of the damage to topography. In a recent tornado in the Northern Adelaide suburbs where there are distinct hills and valleys, the worst damage was on the lee side of the ridge, right down into the valley. Damage on the hill itself and over flatter areas was less significant. Of course, it may be related to the dynamics of the storm cell itself, but I thought it might have something to do with the stretching of the vortex tube as the tornado descended into the valley. Hank from Generally Weatherless Adelaide Hank de Wit Regional Computer Manager South Australia H.deWit at BoM.gov.au ph: 08 8366 2674 http://www.sa.bom.gov.au/~hdewit (Internal access only) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:56:29 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Warwick Storm... Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > problem is the media always calls any severe storms here a "mini > tornado" or a "mini cyclone" My guess would be that the Warwick storm I thought it was interesting that eyewitness reports were of "swirling clouds" but perhaps this was just turbulent scud with the storm front... - Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:34:29 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Here is a link to an animation of the Brisbane webcam images that I obtained on Tuesday. http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/BrisbaneStormAnimation.gif Matthew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:44:45 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all! I have finally got around to putting together my own web-page!! Now, I know its a little daggy at the moment, but given time it's gunna rock! Please visit it, and if you have a page, tell me so I can link it! Any ideas, comments or anything - please let me know!! Ta. Paul from Taree. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:47:52 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: WAIT A MINUTE!!!! TORNADOE!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Now it might be the cam or the angle, but is that NOT a condensation funnel in the right corner???? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:49:47 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have a look in the top right hand corner of the first few shots......is that what I think it is???? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: mbath at ozemail.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:22:58 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'd love to know what you are talking about here. What is your URL and what are you referring to? Three emails just arrived but none have a URL to look at...? Michael At 12:49 PM 16/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >Have a look in the top right hand corner of the first few shots......is >that what I think it is???? > >Attachment Converted: "c:\comm\eudora\attach\vcard5.vcf" > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:18:55 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation FUNNEL FUNNEL FUNNEL Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To save to you all eyestrain......the funnel is in the 15.02 - 15.04 time frame.....check it out!! Top right hand corner.....its a definite funnel!! NO doubt about it!! I thought in the earlier shots (which I reckon shows the tornado as well.........it might have been the sun of the cam angle....) but its definitely a funnel! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:20:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Re: aussie-weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have discovered a way to make sure that your messages are too delayed ---- change your options to HIGHEST priority - this will make sure that your ISP sends it on straight away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:34:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ok.......I thought that Matthew Pipers email would have been read......but heres the link http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/BrisbaneStormAnimation.gif the funnle is in the first few frames......so dont miss it! Check time frames 15.02 - 15.04...and you will see it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:46:50 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, What is the URL for your webpage. Matthew paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote: Howdy all! I have finally got around to putting together my own web-page!! Now, I know its a little daggy at the moment, but given time it's gunna rock! Please visit it, and if you have a page, tell me so I can link it! Any ideas, comments or anything - please let me know!! Ta. Paul from Taree. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:54:02 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My webpage url is http://www.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss D'oh!!! Sorry!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: mbath at ozemail.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:56:00 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, This is what appeared in the body of the email I received via the list from Matthew Piper with the link to the storm animation: At 12:34 PM 16/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >Attachment Converted: "c:\comm\eudora\attach\aussie-w" > So I missed the message. I use Eudora Light V3.0.1. for Win3.11 at work (where I am now) and the same program for Win 95 at home which has no problem with html formatted emails. Does anyone else have a problem with email programs and html formatted messages? All messages I receive from Paul Mossman, Matthew, Anthony and James seem to be html formatted. I would be nice in your could set your email programs to plain text, but if not I'll just have to check all these attachments. Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:00:46 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, I tried to access your page using the URL you gave but I kept getting the error "HTTP/1.0 404 Object Not Found". This would seem to me to indicate that your webpage has not been uploaded to the web server of your ISP. Matthew paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote: > My webpage url is http://www.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss > > D'oh!!! Sorry!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:03:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Matthew - is this better? My defaults were to send emails in HTMK codes. Sorry! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:10:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com heheheh damn me!! sorry matthew.....forgot a 2... the url is http://www2.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss Sorry!! :-( -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:19:31 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, Thankyou for sending me the URL of your web page. I have just had a look at it and it looks fine. I also have a web page which I just created a few weeks ago. The URL for this is http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/index.html. It contains information on the monthly rainfall for where I live. Matthew paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote: > heheheh damn me!! sorry matthew.....forgot a 2... > > the url is http://www2.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss > > Sorry!! :-( -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:21:58 +1000 From: david.croan at agal.gov.au (David Croan) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Subject: Re[2]: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul - if viewed as a single frame it certainly looks like a tornado but it is stationary for several frames!. Given the overall movement of the storm during those same frames my guess is that it is something else. Perhaps someone from Brisbane might know whether the direction to which the camera is pointed, and where this peciliar feature roughly is, corresponds to were the tornado occurred. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Author: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au at agal-email Date: 16/10/98 1:34 PM Ok.......I thought that Matthew Pipers email would have been read......but heres the link http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/BrisbaneStormAnimation.gif the funnle is in the first few frames......so dont miss it! Check time frames 15.02 - 15.04...and you will see it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aussie-weather: Weekend Prospects for Coastal - I'm pessimistic Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:59:59 +1000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think this one will go OK for inland NSW, but I think that NW/W winds will keep most activity well west of the ranges. Perhaps when the system gets to the northern tablelands / north coast on Monday it will encounter better conditions. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:34:49 +1000 From: Paul Mossman To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane Webcam Animation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If I remeber my Brisbane geography well.......the cam appears to be pointing in a nw direction. If I remember the reports, there was severe damage to the Fortitude valley area, and that is where the cam appears to be pointing. (Fortitude Valley is NW of Brisbane) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blair Trewin Subject: aussie-weather: SA heat To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:45:26 +1000 (EST) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Starting to get seriously hot in western SA - 39.6 at Nullarbor at last report - should get over 40, as may Ceduna, and maybe a few other favoured sites in the west (Cook? Tarcoola?). Over 40 in eastern WA - 41.3 at Eucla at 1200 local time, 41.0 at Forrest. Not at all surprised by this given the models all had 1000-500 hPa thicknesses over 580 reaching the head of the Bight. It's not in record territory yet: Ceduna has had 43.5 in October and Forrest 43.3. Still quite impressive. Also noticed some low mins in NSW last night (-5 at Cooma Airport). Blair Trewin Data Management, National Climate Centre/School of Earth Sciences, University of Melbourne -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:49:09 -0400 From: David Hart To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've held my to(u)ngue (or fingers actually) on this issue because I want this to be your mailing list, with my role as being that of a technical advisor, but I agree it would be better to send messages in plain text (ASCII). We have no idea what types of computers others on the list may have, or what speed modems they may be using, so plain text is the least common denominator that will be best viewed by all. I receive about 300 e-mail messages a day, and to sort through all of it efficiently I use a plain-text mail reader running under Linux. I have all sorts of scripts that I can use to decode HTML or MIME, but it's extra work. There are times when you have to send an encoded message to preserve tables or the like, but most of the encoded messages that I come across would be just the same in plain text and would take up less bandwidth which we all end up paying for, in one way or another. Do as you think best, but I would suggest that you encourage the use of plain text when ever possible. David Hart dhart at world.std.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:52:07 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aussie-weather: Darwin Storm Cam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Darwin has their very own storm cam, the cam looks out to Darwin Harbour, should be interesting to see those late storms develop during the summer there. http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html Jacob -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:52:17 +1000 From: Michael Scollay Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael Bath wrote: [snip] > Does anyone else have a problem with email programs and html > formatted messages? All messages I receive from Paul Mossman, > Matthew, Anthony and James seem to be html formatted. I would > be nice in your could set your email programs to plain text, > but if not I'll just have to check all these attachments. I agree with MichaelB. While we send just plain text and embed URL's there can be no problems with getting the full meaning of the message across and with its economic archival (aussie-weather is generating a lot of mail:-). Plain text is also best for present forms of remote access i.e interstate. It is not so far away that we could go on a storm chase with a new-technology mobile in tow then log into the internet from the perimeter of the storm to let others know what's going on. Also, as an offshoot of my primary work, we (Telstra) are looking at cost-effective mobile technology that will enable us to send live pictures back as well. I can hardly wait. Give it 3 to 5 years or so for the average Joe Blow. I suggest that for now, we set up our mailers to send just plain text and just send links. Maybe we can fix this www/internet thing up so that the best pics & movies are archived centrally in a managed way. Doing this largely a resource/funding matter. Until that is possible, promoting our own pages is a good interim solution. Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:55:37 +1000 From: Michael Scollay Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Weekend Prospects for Coastal - I'm pessimistic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael Thompson wrote: > > I think this one will go OK for inland NSW, but I think that NW/W winds will > keep most activity well west of the ranges. > > Perhaps when the system gets to the northern tablelands / north coast on > Monday it will encounter better conditions. > > Michael Thompson > http://thunder.simplenet.com Now for something completely different: the Snowy Mts looks good for a decent "winter storm" Monday PM to Tuesday AM. Check out COLA 850mb maps. Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:04:43 +0800 From: Michael Fewings Organization: Edith Cowan Uni X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mike from Perth here, I have no problems at all with any links, html formats or any else of the like except people who don't set their computers clock correctly! (I think this has been well documented). I use netscapes mail ver 4.5 pr2. I still can't find Paul Mossman's page. I am getting a 404 error now. Thanks Jacob. But it just makes me want to be there more. Michael Fewings Michael Bath wrote: > Hi All, > > This is what appeared in the body of the email I received via the list from > Matthew Piper with the link to the storm animation: > > At 12:34 PM 16/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: > >Attachment Converted: "c:\comm\eudora\attach\aussie-w" > > > > So I missed the message. I use Eudora Light V3.0.1. for Win3.11 at work > (where I am now) and the same program for Win 95 at home which has no > problem with html formatted emails. Does anyone else have a problem with > email programs and html formatted messages? All messages I receive from > Paul Mossman, Matthew, Anthony and James seem to be html formatted. I would > be nice in your could set your email programs to plain text, but if not > I'll just have to check all these attachments. > > Michael > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:08:36 +1000 From: Michael Scollay Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Snowy Mts webcam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To supplement that "completely different" storm to hit the Snowy Mountains 19981019 PM and 19981020 AM check out the Blue Cow webcam which is still being updated every hour or so... http://www.perisherblue.com.au/report/bluecow.html BTW, NCEP MRF puts the 850mb temperature at about -2 on 199810200000 UTC. This means about -4 where this camera points. Coupled with the amount of precipitation forecast, there should be a lovely layer of snow. What a transformation! ,-_|\ Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au / \ Telstra Technology 4/231 Elizabeth St. Sydney NSW 2000 \_,^._* Strategy & Research snail: Locked Bag 6682 GPO Sydney 1100 v Sydney NSW Australia +61 2 9287 5233P +61 2 9287 5031F -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:20:08 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Books on Thunderstorms and Cyclones Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, I am wondering if anyone knows of any good books on Thunderstorms or Cyclones. Matthew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:14:57 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: html emails Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, I also had the same problem accessing Pauls website until he sent me the correct URL for it which is http://www2.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss Matthew Michael Fewings wrote: > Mike from Perth here, > I have no problems at all with any links, html formats or any else of the like > except people who don't set their computers clock correctly! (I think this has > been well documented). I use netscapes mail ver 4.5 pr2. > I still can't find Paul Mossman's page. I am getting a 404 error now. > Thanks Jacob. But it just makes me want to be there more. > > Michael Fewings > > Michael Bath wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > This is what appeared in the body of the email I received via the list from > > Matthew Piper with the link to the storm animation: > > > > At 12:34 PM 16/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: > > >Attachment Converted: "c:\comm\eudora\attach\aussie-w" > > > > > > > So I missed the message. I use Eudora Light V3.0.1. for Win3.11 at work > > (where I am now) and the same program for Win 95 at home which has no > > problem with html formatted emails. Does anyone else have a problem with > > email programs and html formatted messages? All messages I receive from > > Paul Mossman, Matthew, Anthony and James seem to be html formatted. I would > > be nice in your could set your email programs to plain text, but if not > > I'll just have to check all these attachments. > > > > Michael -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Blair Trewin Subject: aussie-weather: More huge diurnal ranges is SA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:33:54 +1000 (EST) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A spectacular diurnal range today at Ceduna - 34 C (max 39, and maybe not done with yet; min 5). I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is an Australian record, but that will take some checking (which I won't have time to do until Monday). Canberra's going for min 3, max 30 tomorrow. Blair Trewin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nick Sykes" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aussie-weather: Heat on in Melbourne Tomorrow Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:38:00 +1000 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Looks like it will be a hot one in Melbourne Tomorrow, forecasted high of 33, not bad for mid October. Only forecasted a few thundery showers with the South West change in the afternoon. Nick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:56:14 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Heat on in Melbourne Tomorrow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I wish we had some heat like that in Perth lately, we havent been over 25C in Perth yet this spring, but we did reach 27.2C in late August, which was the 2nd warmest August day on record. Jacob. At 04:38 PM 16-10-98 +1000, you wrote: >Looks like it will be a hot one in Melbourne Tomorrow, forecasted high of >33, not bad for mid October. Only forecasted a few thundery showers with the >South West change in the afternoon. > >Nick -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:13:14 +1000 From: Paul Mossman To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Heat on in Melbourne Tomorrow Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The BOM are prediciting a very warm to hot weekend for us, which means 33 - 38c temps..........but no mention of nay storm activity! Damn! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:31:57 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: Aussie Weather Subject: aussie-weather: Messages to the List... Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, While on the subject of e-mails to the list, I wonder if people could try and put a relevant subject on their messages rather than just hitting reply to somebody else's message and writing on a completely different subject. I hope this isn't too much to ask - it will make it much easier to sort through messages. It will also help newcomers and outsiders to sort through the archive Michael Bath is creating. On the subject of this archive, perhaps it may be an idea to sort through all previous messages and delete those which are not relevant to the weather such as this one? Cheers, Paul. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:59:01 +1000 From: Matthew Piper X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Joining AMOS Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Does anybody know how to become a member of AMOS? Matthew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:03:55 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Joining AMOS Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, take a look at: http://atmos.es.mq.edu.au/AMOS/ and you'll find all the relevent info. - Paul (must join myself - have been meaning to for nearly a year now...) On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Matthew Piper wrote: > Hi All, > > Does anybody know how to become a member of AMOS? > > Matthew -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:06:36 +1000 From: Paul Mossman To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aussie-weather: Joining AMOS Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael Bath or Jimmy or Laurier do -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:42:42 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Upper air data Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, I think because Darwin is in the tropics, they have ommitted the wind barbs and shear values. There isn't much vertical wind shear in the tropics (one reason why severe local storms aren't so common) because surface air converges, rises and then moves polward, having roughly the same tangential velocity as an object on the earth's surface. (remember that if you are to spin the earth on its axis, its largest diameter is the equator). As this air moves south it gains a westerly component as it maintains this equatorial tangential velocity component. This creates strong uppper level winds that have maxima in the mid-lattitudes: hence the formation of jetstreams. This is why you see wind barbs and shear values on soundings from higher lattitudes (useful for aviation and severe storm forecasting). - Paul G. On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote: > Paul, have you noticed that Darwin does not give the same amount of data > readings as other sites. I checkd the figures this morning after Jane > mentined that there was some activity around the area. I noticed that it > provided only CAPE details, and not much else. ? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:42 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Graham To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Books on Thunderstorms and Cyclones Reply-Receipt: pgraham1 at extro.ucc.su.oz.au Reply-Read: pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi there Matthew, I have often gone to bookstores like Dymocks and found very little. There are a few good books on the weather available but they can be hard to find sometimes. The first I'll mention (which I have mentioned in the past) is a textbook called "The Weather and Climate of Australia and New Zealand" and is available from Dymocks in the city (although when I went there, they only had 1 or 2 copies). There are a coule of chapters on mesoscale weather phenomena which includes severe storms. A very good book on understanding our weather is a Bureau of Meteorology publication for pilots called: "Aviation Meteorology". This is available from Government bookstores. There is another book about tornadoes in Australia that has a number of interesting descriptions of the phenomen. It's called "Willy Willies and Cock Eyed Bobs: Tornadoes in Australia" by David A. Seargent (I think a former University Lecturer). This book is only available by mail order I think (if you follow a link from Michael and Jimmy's Austrliansevereweather page, there is some more info. on how to order a copy). Have a search of amazon.com under storms and you'll see they carry a number of interesting titles (some perhaps a bit pricy). Don't know of any books on TC's but the Bureau of Meteorology reports are always interesting to read. Also, don't forget some libraries (eg. university libraries) have some good meteorological resources available. - Paul. On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Matthew Piper wrote: > Hi All, > > I am wondering if anyone knows of any good books on Thunderstorms or > Cyclones. > > Matthew
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