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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 19th November 1998

From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:32:03 +1000
Subject: aussie-weather: Re East Coast Low / TS Yesterday & Today / Last Nights IRC
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Howdy all!! Sorry missed Meeting again (was away with work yet
again...............)

Wow what a day I had yesterday!! We had a cyclone here between Newcastle &
Mid North Coast.  yep, a cold centred Cyclone or more commoningly known as
an east Coast Low.

It thrashed the coast, with rainfall figures between 60 - 110mm in 12 hrs.
My own figure was 74.1mm between 9am & 3pm. Forster had 74mm, while I could
not see Tarees fall. Maryville in Newcastle had 101mm from Midnight to 9am,
Williamtown had 80mm from 9am til 3pm. IT was pouring!! But not only that,
winds of between 80 - 100 km/h buffeted the coast, with a huge sea now
punding the beaches. Hail, severe line winds, rotating bases were common as
the huge storms swept in off the ocean. Now I know what a Tropical Cyclone
feels like...................

I had to drive to Newcastle in this torenntial rain, branches flying across
the road, swollen creeks, man it was fab!!!

So Laurier, theres some intersting figures for you!! We are now receiving
heavy rain here today, with severe squalls and  hail!! What some weather!!
all in 2 days!!

Did anybody see the video footage of the Tornadoe in South Africa?? man it
was awesome!! great footage as well!!

Good to hear that WA & QLD people are getting some weather at last! Howdy
to Michael Fewings..and Ira & Jacob!

Howdy to you all in QLD!! Howdy to Matt (x 2), Nick & Kevin!

Whats happening around the place today guys??

Paul......................................

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From: "Kevin Phyland" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re East Coast Low / TS Yesterday & Today / Last Nights IRC Meeting.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:25:55 PST
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Hi Paul,
Glad to hear that somebody is getting some interesting weather!
Here in Wycheproof, it's about 19 C, with a light SE breeze. Increasing 
cirrus from WNW.
The NOAA models says no chance of rain, but the Bureau is going for 
chance of thunderstorms Saturday arvo. Here's hoping the locals are on 
the ball. :)
Yours,
Kevin.


>
>
>
>Howdy all!! Sorry missed Meeting again (was away with work yet
>again...............)
>
>Wow what a day I had yesterday!! We had a cyclone here between 
Newcastle &
>Mid North Coast.  yep, a cold centred Cyclone or more commoningly known 
as
>an east Coast Low.
>
>It thrashed the coast, with rainfall figures between 60 - 110mm in 12 
hrs.
>My own figure was 74.1mm between 9am & 3pm. Forster had 74mm, while I 
could
>not see Tarees fall. Maryville in Newcastle had 101mm from Midnight to 
9am,
>Williamtown had 80mm from 9am til 3pm. IT was pouring!! But not only 
that,
>winds of between 80 - 100 km/h buffeted the coast, with a huge sea now
>punding the beaches. Hail, severe line winds, rotating bases were 
common as
>the huge storms swept in off the ocean. Now I know what a Tropical 
Cyclone
>feels like...................
>
>I had to drive to Newcastle in this torenntial rain, branches flying 
across
>the road, swollen creeks, man it was fab!!!
>
>So Laurier, theres some intersting figures for you!! We are now 
receiving
>heavy rain here today, with severe squalls and  hail!! What some 
weather!!
>all in 2 days!!
>
>Did anybody see the video footage of the Tornadoe in South Africa?? man 
it
>was awesome!! great footage as well!!
>
>Good to hear that WA & QLD people are getting some weather at last! 
Howdy
>to Michael Fewings..and Ira & Jacob!
>
>Howdy to you all in QLD!! Howdy to Matt (x 2), Nick & Kevin!
>
>Whats happening around the place today guys??
>
>Paul......................................

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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:40:49 +1000
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re East Coast Low / TS Yesterday & Today /
	 Last Nights IRC Meeting.
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Howdy Kevin!!

I just heard Steve Symonds on the Radio (BOM Media guy) and he was warning
about the approaching trough, and that it will bring severe storms, havy
rain & damage to farmers crops! So heres hoping!!

Paul.

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:00:54 +1100
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From: Michael Bath 
Subject: aussie-weather: severe storms NSW 17-18/11/98
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The Sydney Morning Herald has a report on the impact of recent severe
weather in the NW of NSW.

On Tuesday night, hailstorms wiped out many crops in areas that had been
badly affected by the Winter flooding.

Rob Webb from the severe weather section of the NSW BoM said that the
largest hail was reported from Delungra near Inverell.

Although most of us on this list love severe weather for it's beauty, the
power and spectacle, we should spare a thought for those affected by it
through loss of property and income. 

Our research into severe weather and into conditions that give rise to it
must be acknowledged by forecasters. Mail by the group earlier in the week
suggested severe storms in northern NSW and Southern Qld, yet forecasts
gave no indication of severe weather until it was happening. I'm sure as
more of us study and interpret severe weather events, we will be able to
contribute better to the warning systems.

Michael

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: new photos from SEQ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:03:02 +1000
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Hi all

I just posted some new photos from Nov 14 and one from Nov 18.  The 3 from
the 14th were quite interesting considering the strength of the
t'storms/t'shrs.  The first 2 show an interesting base feature and the 3rd a
good example of mammatus.  The one photo from the 18th is from the midday
storms but the more photogenic storms of the day occurred later around 4pm.
I'll have those photos soon.
These current photos are in my November Thunderdays page at:
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jourdey/storm/nov.html
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James Chambers

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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:29:09 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Central Queensland Supercell?
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Hi everyone,
Did anyone manage to see this?  In case you missed out, I have put the
animation online at: 

http://hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au/~m3052695/interesting.html 

If nothing else, it shows that WV imagery can be very useful in tracking
storms.  Cheers,
	Paul.

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Paul Graham wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 	I have just noticed an interesting storm on the NASA animated
> satellite imagery of eastern Australia.  The storm shows up most
> distinctly on the WV imagery (which gives you a picture to around 500Hpa) 
> but may also be seen on the IR imagery.  If you have a careful look,
> you'll see a storm somewhere in Central to Northern QLD which is moving
> differently to the other storms.  It seems to have more of a northerly
> component to its movement compared to other activity and it also seems to
> have split early in its life with the right half moving with a more
> southerly component.  This would seem to indicate that the storm was a
> supercell. I have located it to being roughly 400Km SW of Townsville. Has
> anyone got radar imagery of this storm?
> 	- Paul G.

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Weather forecast
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:41:44 +1100
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I happened to be eating when the weather from Channel 9 came on.... He
showed the 24 hour or so animation of the satellite picture.......BACKWARDS

I amagine the east coast low comimg back in....

Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:34:47 +1100 (EST)
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From: Don White 
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re East Coast Low / TS Yesterday & Today /
  Last Nights IRC Meeting.
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Paul,
Where exactly are you located ? so, we can get an idea how different your
rainfalls figures can be from Taree etc. How much did you have in the 24
hours to 9am this morning.
Regards
Don White
At 11:32 AM 19/11/98 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Howdy all!! Sorry missed Meeting again (was away with work yet
>again...............)
>
>Wow what a day I had yesterday!! We had a cyclone here between Newcastle &
>Mid North Coast.  yep, a cold centred Cyclone or more commoningly known as
>an east Coast Low.
>
>It thrashed the coast, with rainfall figures between 60 - 110mm in 12 hrs.
>My own figure was 74.1mm between 9am & 3pm. Forster had 74mm, while I could
>not see Tarees fall. Maryville in Newcastle had 101mm from Midnight to 9am,
>Williamtown had 80mm from 9am til 3pm. IT was pouring!! But not only that,
>winds of between 80 - 100 km/h buffeted the coast, with a huge sea now
>punding the beaches. Hail, severe line winds, rotating bases were common as
>the huge storms swept in off the ocean. Now I know what a Tropical Cyclone
>feels like...................
>
>I had to drive to Newcastle in this torenntial rain, branches flying across
>the road, swollen creeks, man it was fab!!!
>
>So Laurier, theres some intersting figures for you!! We are now receiving
>heavy rain here today, with severe squalls and  hail!! What some weather!!
>all in 2 days!!
>
>Did anybody see the video footage of the Tornadoe in South Africa?? man it
>was awesome!! great footage as well!!
>
>Good to hear that WA & QLD people are getting some weather at last! Howdy
>to Michael Fewings..and Ira & Jacob!
>
>Howdy to you all in QLD!! Howdy to Matt (x 2), Nick & Kevin!
>
>Whats happening around the place today guys??
>
>Paul......................................

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From: "Kevin Phyland" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Southern action?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:55:59 PST
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Hi every1,
I've been cruising both the Oz forecasts and the US models and they seem 
to be a bit different.
The BOM forecast for Wycheproof (NW Victoria) is for thunderstorms 
possibly on Saturday, yet the NOAA arl models are all saying just cloud, 
no precipitation.
Is there some upper-level support for the BOM forecast?
The cloud photos seem to indicate that the trough is moving west to east 
(and north of here). Is there moisture available for severe stuff here 
on the weekend?

Yours in anticipation,
Kevin Phyland.

Document: 981119.htm
Updated: 23rd November, 1998

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