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Hi Brian - and everyone else.  I too am new, but have been fascinated by the info so far contained in your mail.  Brian, I was at Mt Evelyn yesterday afternoon at 4.00p.m.  Skies clear. By 4.15 the dark purple build up of what looked for all the world like a big thunder storm with strong winds had built up on the nearby mountains.  Was actually a little anxious with 2 small kiddies in tow.  At Wandin, skies still threatened, and then - phhht - like a tyre with a slow leak, it fizzled out.  Glad you raised it, because I was very curious. Thought it must have dropped off the mountain.

Cheers

Nan

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> Hi All
>          As this is the first time on Aussie Weather I don't know if
> this is at all correct im sure someone will fill me in, anyway here
> goes.
>  As my internet time is limited ill try and keep this as brief as
> possible.
> Observed possible thunder storm NE of the Dandenong ranges when viewed
> from Moorabbin Airport this seemed like a reasonable sized buildup but
> very quickly dissipated at around 5-30pm. little cu observed around
> ranges but nothing of any significance. looks like nothing now until
> later in the week.
> hope this is correct if not can somebody please advise the correct
> procedure looks like most of you guys have got things down pat.
> Regards Brian

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David, where was the meeting room again?

Regards,
Paul.

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From: "Ben Quinn" 
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:26:40 -0800
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Well - it turns out the storms yesterday caused more damage than first
thought, with reports now flooding in.   In Gatton(70km W of brisbane),
Dalby(160 km WNW) and Tara(??) roofs were ripped off, and power cut to most
people during the storm.  In Stanthorpe (approx 170km SW) there is said to
be several hundred thousand dollars in crop damage.  In Rosewood and Marburg
(The site of the brisbane radar) west of brisbane, golf ball size hail and
strong winds caused damage to crops as well as houses.  On the Sunshine
Coast (70km N of brisbane) 2 homes were completely unroofed and a 3rd
partially unroofed, as well as downed power lines all in one street.  In
Redcliffe where i live (25km NE of brisbane) , no more than 100m down the
road a man was struck by lightning (well actualy the strike was very close
by and the air apparently becomes electrified).  He got a large fright, but
no substantial injuries.  Also there are several reports of 2 hang-gliders
seen being blown out into moreton bay before the storm, The coast guard is
still searching. There are still reports coming in, and there was also
torrential rain throughout brisbane causing local flooding in many areas
including western redcliffe.  I saw on TV lightning with up to 4 return
strikes.

The soundings are not as promising thismorning, although there is some
healthy convection early thismorning already. The forecast reads:

 BRISBANE METROPOLITAN AREA
A few showers and afternoon thunderstorms today, easing to showers tonight
and
early Thursday. Light to moderate S to SE winds today, freshening tomorrow.
Brisbane Airport for Thursday   ... MIN  18   MAX  26
Outlook for Friday     ... Fine    MAX  27
            Saturday   ... Shower or storm  MAX  28

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From: "Jane ONeill" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne: possibility of storms
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:28:09 +1100
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They are forecasting a 30% chance of storms between 3pm & 8pm today!!
At present there is a healthy buildup of Cu to the NE over the Yarra Valley
and a little to the west past the airport.  Could get interesting later.

Melbourne airport TAFS:
 YMML TAF AMD YMML
242225Z 0024
VRB05KT 9999 SCT030
FM03 17010KT 9999 -SHRA SCT040
FM10 VRB05KT CAVOK
FM18 36016G30KT CAVOK      PROB30
INTER 0409 3000 TSRA SCT020 FEW040CB      (this is the interesting line)
T 20 24 23 19 Q 1013 1012 1011 1013

For those who would like some help in interpreting the above information -
go to http://www.bom.gov.au/info/avwx/avwxhelp.shtml


Jane

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Howdy all. Looking very dark and ominjus here, dark TS west, and
approaching rapidly. Also, good cell out to sea, with marked organsiation.
Anyone on the net?? Laurier??

paul

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TOP PRIORITYSEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
At 2.45pm on Wednesday the 25th of November 1998
For the Capricornia/Wide Bay and Burnett Districts
Thunderstorms are developing thoughout the area, some of which are expected
to
be severe this afternoon, with damaging wind squalls and hail.  At 2.30pm
the
most intense thunderstorms on radar were just west of Gladstone and to the
northwest of Gympie.

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:12:37 +1100
From: david.croan at agal.gov.au (David Croan)
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     Hi Paul and everyone,
     
     As I mentioned I can easily get a room at the uni BUT: Jimmy has 
     suggested that Parramatta may be a bit more central (perhaps in a club 
     or something); and he is probably right. 
     
     I think that everyone who intends going should drop a message to the 
     list which indicates whether they're happy with Parramatta and also 
     what time they can get there on the 3/12/98. Those more familiar with 
     the area might be the best to suggest exactly where it would be held 
     and then we can set a time to suit, hopefully, everyone. 
     
     
P.S To all those people new to the list, Paul Mossman, following up on an 
earlier proposal by storm chasers Jimmy D, Michael T, Michael B and Ira F last 
year, is organising the set up of an Australian storm chaser society. As the 
name suggests the society will be pretty much dedicated to storm chasing rather 
than general weather. Anyone interested is invited to attend the meeting which 
will be more on organisation than storms. It is being held in Sydney simply as 
this is most accessible to the majority of storm chasers.

______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: aussie-weather: Attn David Croan
Author:  Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au at agal-email
Date:    25/11/98 10:31 AM


     
     
David, where was the meeting room again?
     
Regards,
Paul.

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Updated Central Qld warning
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:47:29 +1000
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TOP PRIORITY SEVERE  THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
At 3.45pm EST on Wednesday the 25th of November 1998
For the Capricornia/Wide Bay and Burnett Districts

There are widespread thunderstorms over the area, some of which are expected
to
be severe this afternoon, with damaging wind squalls and hail.  At 3.30pm
the
most intense thunderstorms on radar were near Miriam Vale and also inland
between Bundaberg and Gympie.

People are advised to secure outside items, move cars under cover and seek
shelter.The next warning will be issued at 4.45pm
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: new SEQ forecast
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:22:03 +1000
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Hi all...if you want storms, come here!

SOUTHEAST COAST FORECASTS
A few showers tonight, with isolated thunderstorms chiefly in northern
parts.
Isolated showers early Thursday, clearing during the morning. Light to
moderate
S to SE winds, freshening overnight.
Outlook for Friday     ... Fine.
            Saturday   ... Showers and thunderstorms.
            Sunday     ... Showers and thunderstorms.

The BoM were right last time they forecasted a prolonged t'storm situation,
and hopefully they will be right this time.  Weekend storms are great!

Right now there are isolated weak storms to the SW which *may* come here,
but it certainly doesn't feel like a storm with fresh & gusty SE's and a
full overcast of high cirrus and altostratus.  There would be the odd large
cu embedded.
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James Chambers
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We've had a few new people come on this list during the week, so just to
let them know, and to remind others, that our IRC Australian weather chat
is on tonight at 9pm EDT (8pm EST in Queensland).

If you haven't already tried it you can download the IRC client, mIRC at
www.mirc.co.uk and use one of the undernet servers and then type /join
#weather

Or you can chat via the web at http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

Jacob

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:40:36 +1100
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David Croan wrote:
>...
>      I think that everyone who intends going should drop a message to the
>      list which indicates whether they're happy with Parramatta and also
>      what time they can get there on the 3/12/98. 

Parramatta is OK with me on 3/12/98 but I can't make it there before
about 8:30pm unless I can make special arrangements at home that
night. I said before that I needed to go to Melbourne but that meeting
has now been rescheduled.

I can arrange a venue if you agree to hold your meetings in the Sydney
CBD after normal work-hours (19:00) with easy access to public
transport, after-hours parking nearby at some $5 to $10 net cost, an
18-person room (expandable to 40) complete with internet access (maybe
not IRC), video players, video, computer & slide projectors plus voice
and video conferencing facilities if required. BYO coffee cup and
food. I also have access to another facility capable of supporting up
to 70 people with a large overhead video projector etc. and internet
access but minus video conferencing. Let me know if interested. 

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: Ben Munro 
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I saw on the channel ten news that there was a tornado at caloundra. There
was no footage of course, but they showed some of the damage - a few roofs
destroyed, trees torn down etc. They said it lasted for two minutes.
They also said it was the first tornado in queensland in 25 years. I wonder
whether they made that figure up themselves.
Anyone have any more info?

Ben Munro

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Caloundra TORNADO
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:10:02 +1000
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Hi all

I just saw a report on the Ch 10 5pm news that Caloundra was hit by a
tornado.  There were eyewitness reports of a cone shaped cloud and branches
swirling around in the air.  I might add the reporter or Ch 10 also said it
was the first tornado in Qld for 25 years!!  So I guess we'll have to see
other reports about the Caloundra tornado to back it up.  It looked like
F2/low F3 damage.

Just have a look at my storm reports pages to see the tornadic activity
we've received since the '73 tornado!
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James Chambers
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:12:09 +1000
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I've got a feeling we both saw that report!
We at least agree :)
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James Chambers
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From: "Matthew Piper" 
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:11:10 +1100
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Hi Everyone,

I am happy with having the venue in Parramatta as it is a lot closer to
where I live. I would also be able to attend the meeting at any time as I
currently have no commitments. Here in the Blue Mountains today there were a
couple of heavy showers but unfortunately no thunderstorm activity.

Matthew Piper

-----Original Message-----
From: David Croan 
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Date: Wednesday, 25 November 1998 16:17
Subject: aussie-weather: Re: MEETING VENUE


>     Hi Paul and everyone,
>
>     As I mentioned I can easily get a room at the uni BUT: Jimmy has
>     suggested that Parramatta may be a bit more central (perhaps in a club
>     or something); and he is probably right.
>
>     I think that everyone who intends going should drop a message to the
>     list which indicates whether they're happy with Parramatta and also
>     what time they can get there on the 3/12/98. Those more familiar with
>     the area might be the best to suggest exactly where it would be held
>     and then we can set a time to suit, hopefully, everyone.
>
>
>P.S To all those people new to the list, Paul Mossman, following up on an
>earlier proposal by storm chasers Jimmy D, Michael T, Michael B and Ira F
last
>year, is organising the set up of an Australian storm chaser society. As
the
>name suggests the society will be pretty much dedicated to storm chasing
rather
>than general weather. Anyone interested is invited to attend the meeting
which
>will be more on organisation than storms. It is being held in Sydney simply
as
>this is most accessible to the majority of storm chasers.

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:15:05 +1100
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As much as I would love I will be unable to attend as I will be on holidays
with my wife.

Michael


>     Hi Paul and everyone,
>
>     As I mentioned I can easily get a room at the uni BUT: Jimmy has
>     suggested that Parramatta may be a bit more central (perhaps in a club
>     or something); and he is probably right.
>
>     I think that everyone who intends going should drop a message to the
>     list which indicates whether they're happy with Parramatta and also
>     what time they can get there on the 3/12/98. Those more familiar with
>     the area might be the best to suggest exactly where it would be held
>     and then we can set a time to suit, hopefully, everyone.
>
>
>P.S To all those people new to the list, Paul Mossman, following up on an
>earlier proposal by storm chasers Jimmy D, Michael T, Michael B and Ira F
last
>year, is organising the set up of an Australian storm chaser society. As
the
>name suggests the society will be pretty much dedicated to storm chasing
rather
>than general weather. Anyone interested is invited to attend the meeting
which
>will be more on organisation than storms. It is being held in Sydney simply
as
>this is most accessible to the majority of storm chasers.

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If Michael Scollay is able to provide such a great venue, then that is
where it should be held: 7pm in the CBD. Both Jimmy Deguara and myself will
certainly be able to attend.

If anyone living in the western suburbs or further afield (Michael Piper)
would like to get to my place in the Blacktown area, we can then travel
together to the city. Please email me if you are interested.

Michael S: if you would care to give us the address details and also of the
nearest parking station. I think this venue should be finalised asap to
enable intra/interstate visitors to finalise their travel plans.

regards, Michael
*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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From: "McDonald" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning detection and mammatus?
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:31:01 +1100
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Hi Laurier,

Sorry I haven't written back but I've been down the coast for three days. 
I live in the NE suburbs of Melbourne - Greensborough to be exact.  Hope
you can enlighten me of why the mammatus may occur so regularly. 

Andrew McDonald.

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From: Laurier Williams 
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Lightning detection and mammatus?
Date: Monday, 23 November 1998 11:02

Hi Andrew 

I haven't seen a response to this, so....

On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:40:08 +1100, "McDonald" 
wrote:

>Hello everyone,
>
>Melbourne may get a storm on sat/sun if we are lucky but that is not what
>I'm writing for.  Two questions.
>
>1.  Energex lightning detection - is there a similar service in Victoria?
>
I'm not aware of any such system for Melbourne, or, for that matter,
anywhere in Aus other than Brisbane. Anyone else know...

>2.  Mammatus - During the past year I have observed mammatus within 5km of
>my house at least 12 times with about half of these being altocumulus
>mammatus and the other half being observed with thunderstorms.  (I think
>there are two types??)  I was curious as to the reason why this has
>occurred so frequently in such a small area?  There isn't much influence
>from hills/mountains or significant increases in the number of buildings. 
>Just curious as to why this may have occurred.  I have some great photo's
>of mammatus but I don't have a scanner - I'm organising getting the
>scanned.
>
Where abouts in Vic are you?


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: "McDonald" 
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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:00:49 +1100
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Hi 

I'm trying to get IRC to work and I'm having trouble.  Please help.

I don't know where to go what to do?

Andrew McDonald.

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>Hi
>
>I'm trying to get IRC to work and I'm having trouble.  Please help.
>
>I don't know where to go what to do?
>
>Andrew McDonald.


http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

that is the url for the WWW chat, if you have mIRC or any other chat program
(i think you can use any) you need to be on an Undernet server, and the room
in #weather

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Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:39:31 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon 
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Hi All
        tried hard to get on irc but it wont let me use undernet  i get
the error message use a clser server the closest there is New Zealand
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
Brian

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At 11:39 PM 25-11-98 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi All
>        tried hard to get on irc but it wont let me use undernet  i get
>the error message use a clser server the closest there is New Zealand
>Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
>Brian
>

Unfortunatly the New Zealand and some european undernet servers dont let
Australians on, the best server I have found is the New Brunswick server,
in your status window, type:

/server NewBrunswick.NJ.US.Undernet.Org

another server you could use is:

/server dallas.tx.us.undernet.org

Even though our Australian weather meetings are only once a week, anyone is
still welcome to come at any time of the day during the week. Myself and a
few other Australians visit the channel most days, and if we're not there,
there are others, mainly from the United States, who would love to talk
weather with you. The quiet times on the channel are usually when the
Americans are asleep, with the most active being in the morning/early
afternoon Australian time when its prime time in the USA.

Hope to see more of you there.

To learn more about the #weather channel, visit:

http://world.std.com/~dactyl/newirc.htm

Jacob

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>Hi All
>        tried hard to get on irc but it wont let me use undernet  i get
>the error message use a clser server the closest there is New Zealand
>Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
>Brian
>


Brian try the WWW chat:
http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

Or just choose a different undernet server if you havn't already, an easier
way may be to choose Random Undernet Server at the top of the list.