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001 mildad [mildad at one.net.au] (no subject)
002 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject)
003 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobwe (no subject)
004 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au] Weather Update...
005 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Meeting of 3/12/98 - discussion
006 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Looking for material on SCA meeting for AMOS Bulletin
007 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
008 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
009 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Office Bearers Elected at Last Nights Meeting
010 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Poll of Storm Society Name
012 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
013 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au Poll of Storm Society Name
014 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Poll of Storm Society Name
015 "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au] Cyclone Billy
016 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Re: Poll of Storm Society Name
017 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com] poll of storm society name
018 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
019 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Poll of Storm Society Name
020 "John Roenfeldt" [wa_tornado at hotmail.com] Poll of Storm Society Name
021 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Possible storms for Perth
022 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
023 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Webpages!!!
024 Bob Baillie [spoton at fastinternet.net.au] Poll of Storm Society Name
025 Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au] Webpages!!!
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001
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Fires etc.
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 98 00:18:51 +1000
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>I do however, recall a reference from someone on the list to a "white
>elephant Sydney Doppler" but can't recall who sent it.
>
>Yours,
>Kevin
Yes that was me Kevin - we do have a Doppler radar here in Sydney. Some
of the other Sydney storm chasers probably know more about it's history
than me. Anyway, there is a little bit about it's intended use for
tracking severe storms during the olympic games period on the BoM site
(or the BoMs justification to the minister for funding it in the first
place).
David C
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: radar enquiry
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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As I understand it, the BoM have received many requests for improvements to
the radar service since it came online several months ago.
Perhaps a bit of history for those who may be new subscribers to BoM
services; subscription web radar is a replacement service for a dedicated
lease line service called RAPIC. This service was quite expensive and
predominantly used by large corporations. With it's small user base,
expensive access system and dedicated software/hardware platform, it made
little sense to maintain this product. So web radar was formulated.
Web radar was implemented, it was as a quick and dirty substitute for RAPIC.
If the BoM are to be criticised at all, I feel the key point was their
decision to implement web-radar without appropriate market research,
consultation and planning. The whole concept of web radar is great, the
current implementation, well....
The BoM put considerable resources into getting the current implementation
of web-radar online. This is to be commended as it is quite an achievement
of technology. Anybody with any understanding of how the BoM radar network
operates would appreciate this. Since the implementation the BoM has taken
criticism, praise, suggestions and queries at an unprecedented level.
Wed-radar has proven to be far more popular than RAPIC ever was.
The current status, as I understand it, is that the BoM is planning a global
improvement of all radar images in response to user comments right across
the board. It is clearly impractical to implement improvements on an ad-hoc
basis. This explains the reference to the resource issue.
It is important that any enhancements to the web-radar service be global and
well coordinated. The current service consists of around 100 different files
continuously updated. It will be a huge job to implement changes right
across the service. I for one would like to see this done properly so it's a
service I would be happy to pay $50 per month for. I have no doubt that
given enough well meaning suggestions from people like us, that we will see
a much improved web-radar service in the near future. However, we will need
to be patient.
As for the cost structure. Well this is another issue. The BoM justification
for the $50 per month fee is largely directed at commercial users who can
easily justify this expense for the value it provides. Perhaps the best
solution may be to have 2 levels of service, a premium service for
commercial users and a domestic (affordable) service for home users,
hobbiests etc. The premium service would be more customised for specific
applications. The domestic service, designed to be viewed on a browser. I
think this would work well for everybody .But, on this point I don't have
any idea what the BoM is thinking.
Nonetheless, I am sure we will see some positive changes with the next
version of web radar.
After all, as we all know - we all fund the BoM.
Mark
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>From: steve baynham
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>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: radar enquiry
>Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 5:51 PM
>
>me again,
>besides the subscriber, who does fund BoM??
>steve
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From: Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobweb.com.au]
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Hello all for the first time from 'Beautiful Beulah Park' Adelaide, and
especially hello to the several other Adelaide-ites who have de-cloaked in
the last few days...
With reference to the Sydney meeting, which most of us here are obviously
unable to attend, it would be great if this could be the impetus for the
formation of state chapters of the 'peak body'. That way we could stay in
touch with national developments as well as make contact with our local WX
types.
Just a thought
Phil
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004
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:22:38 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Weather Update...
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>From Bureau's Aviation forecast:
AREA22
21:06 UTC, 03/12/1998
AREA FORECAST 032300 TO 041100 AREA 22
OVERVIEW:
SURFACE TROUGH NEAR WALGETT/COONABARRABRAN AT 19Z IS VERY SLOW
MOVING.
TROUGH SLOPES WEST WITH HEIGHT TO NEAR TEMORA/TIBOOBURRA AT
7000FT.
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS/SHOWERS EAST OF TROUGH AFTER 03Z UNTIL 10Z
AREA20
23:16 UTC, 03/12/1998
AMEND AREA FORECAST 032300 TO 041100 AREA 20
AMD OVERVIEW:
SURFACE FRONT JUST NORTH OF WILLIAMTOWN MOVING NORTHEAST EXPECTED
TO
REACH SMOKY CAPE AT ABOUT 11Z.
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS NORTH OF WILLIAMTOWN/MUDGEE/WALDETT, MAINLY
RANGES AND AFTER 03Z. ISOLATED SHOWERS.
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Paul Graham
m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au
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005
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:46:42 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: aussie-weather: Meeting of 3/12/98 - discussion
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The meeting of 3/12/98 was well attended; myself, P. Mossman, J.
Deguara, M. Bath, M. Smith, M. Piper, P. Graham, D. Croan and M.
Hardy. It didn't finish until after 23:30! Apologies were received
from literally scores of people. This clearly demontrates a
significant committment to the idea of forming a society specifically
aimed towards severe weather and storm chasing. It also demonstrates
that the ground-swell of support is scattered geographically over
Australia and in some cases other countries. We will simply have to
find innovative ways of operating without geographic bounds.
It is premature to form detailed opinions about the outcomes of the
meeting at this stage. A full report will need to be worked on
subsequently by all involved. However, it is worth noting that items
dear to many people's hearts and already "aired" on this news group
were discussed. In particular, the ways that the society can operate
effectively given its huge geographic scope. It was agreed that items
such as the society's name, the formation of state groups and
logistics of operation would be discussed and "voted" on through
collaborative means on the 'net as necessary.
The viability of this cooperative severe weather and storm chasing
group is a function of good, keen guidance based on collective
judgement combined with solving the logistics of drawing involvment
from a broad base of people scattered across Australia or even the
World. Please trust that those intimately involved at this early stage
have the interests of the whole at heart. We are keen to ensure that
we meet both the legal requirements of forming and maintaining a
viable cooperative non-profit society within the bounds of Australian
law that is able to attract concessions and enough funding to provide
a net benefit to its members. However, any society formed within an
Australian state is also bound by state laws. We will ensure that such
a legal entity is not bounded by the geography of that state in terms
of its operations.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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006
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aussie-weather: Looking for material on SCA meeting for AMOS Bulletin
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:13:30 +1100 (EST)
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Calling all attendees...
I'd like to run a couple of paragraphs in the December AMOS
Bulletin on the formation of Storm Chasers Australia (or whatever
you ended up deciding to call yourselves). Is there someone out
there who can supply me with same? I'm just putting the final
text for the Bulletin together now and would like to go to the
printers on Monday, so I'd appreciate something today if at all
possible. (If someone is intending to post a report to the list,
I may well be able to base something around that).
Thanks,
Blair Trewin
(AMOS Bulletin Editor)
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007
From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:38:45 +1100
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Hi All,
I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be made.
Regards,
Matthew Piper
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008
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:48:42 +1100
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I'd like to vote for:
Preference 1: Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
Preference 2: Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
Jane
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Piper
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Friday, 4 December 1998 12:45
>Subject: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural meeting to find out >which of the following names would be preferred.
>
> 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
> 2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
> 3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
> 4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
> Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so that a decision >can be made.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew Piper
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Office Bearers Elected at Last Nights Meeting
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:59:36 +1100
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Hi All,
Last night at the inaugural meeting of the yet to be named storm society the following people were nominated and accepted as office bearers.
President - Michael Bath
Vice President - Jimmy Deguara
Secretary - Paul Mossman
Treasurer - Michael Scollay
Information/Technology Officer (Computer) - Yet to be determined
Information/Technology (Meteorological) - Mark Hardy and Paul Graham
General Committee Member - Matthew Piper and Matthew Smith
Regards,
Matthew Piper
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010
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 10:10:34 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Hi,
My vote
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
Can't wait to read the minutes of the meeting.
Looks good in WA with unsettled weather and a cyclone all to our Western
Australian selves.
Mike.
Matthew Piper wrote:
> Hi All, I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights
> inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be
> preferred. 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW2. Australian
> Storm Chasers (Society) ASC3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA4. Severe
> Weather Action Group SWAG Could everyone on this mailing list please
> respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be
> made. Regards, Matthew Piper
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 13:58:17 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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My vote is;
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
with second preference;
1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 11:51:34 +0800
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From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
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At 12:38 PM 04-12-98 +1100, you wrote:
> Hi All, I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights
>inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be
>preferred. 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW 2. Australian
>Storm Chasers (Society) ASC 3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA 4. Severe
>Weather Action Group SWAG Could everyone on this mailing list please
>respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be made. Regards,
>Matthew Piper
I like the name Storm Chasers Australia
Jacob
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 14:30:49 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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G'Day All,
I also like the name Storm Chasers Australia SCA.
Cheers,
Duane
Matthew Piper wrote:
I was asked .... which of the following names would be preferred.
1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:14:10 GMT
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On Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:38:45 +1100, Matthew wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>
>1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
This sounds scientific
>2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
This sounds prosaic
>3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
This sounds trendy
>4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
This sounds like we're going to get the government to do something
about it.
>Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be made.
My vote is 3. Storm Chasers Australia. In the wake of "Twister", it's
more likely to fire public imagination than nos 1 or 4.
Cheers
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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015
From: "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Cyclone Billy
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:41:46 +0800
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Hey all!
In case some ppl didnt already know..........
PRIORITYFOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST TROPICAL CYCLONE BILLY ADVICE NUMBER 7BUREAU OF
METEOROLOGY TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH ISSUED AT 1.00 PM ON FRIDAY
04/12/1998.=====
A WARNING FOR A CATEGORY 2 CYCLONE IS NOW CURRENT FOR COASTAL AREAS BETWEEN ROEBOURNE AND EXMOUTH WHICH INCLUDES THE COMMUNITIES ATROEBOURNE, WICKHAM, KARRATHA, DAMPIER, ONSLOW AND EXMOUTH.A CYCLONE WATCH EXTENDS SOUTH TO CARNARVON.
AT NOON TODAY CYCLONE BILLY WAS ESTIMATED TO BE 260 KILOMETRES NORTHOF KARRATHA AND MOVING SOUTHWEST AT 10 KILOMETRES PER HOUR SLIGHTLYTOWARDS THE COAST.
GALES WITH GUSTS TO 100 KILOMETRES PER HOUR MAY DEVELOP ON THE COAST BETWEEN ROEBOURNE AND ONSLOW TONIGHT EXTENDING ALONG THE COASTTOWARDS EXMOUTH DURING TOMORROW.
TECHNICAL DETAILS OF TROPICAL CYCLONE BILLY AT NOON.
LOCATION OF CENTRE WITHIN 30 KILOMETRES OF LATITUDE 18.4 SOUTH LONGITUDE 116.7
RECENT MOVEMENT SOUTHWEST AT 10 KILOMETRES PER HOUR
CENTRAL PRESSURE 975 HECTOPASCALS
MAXIMUM WIND GUSTS 150 KILOMETRES PER HOUR NEAR THE CENTRE
SEVERITY CATEGORY 2
THE NEXT WARNING WILL BE ISSUED AT 4 PM THIS AFTERNOON.
Current conditons 1.30pm WST 33C Total cloud cover 20 - 30kn winds.
im hoping to get some pics on the web tonight :)
Later All
Jason AkA JuNgLeJiM
Karratha :)
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016
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:45:18 +1000
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Hi all
My vote: Storm Chasers Australia (SCA)
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James Chambers
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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: poll of storm society name
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:32:50 +1100
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Hi I vote for Storm Chasers Australia. Dane Newman.
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 17:24:26 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
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steve from gold coast
YEAH no. 3 Storm Chasers Australia!!
At 12:38 PM 12/4/98 +1100, you wrote:
> Hi All, I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights
>inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be
>preferred. 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW 2. Australian
>Storm Chasers (Society) ASC 3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA 4. Severe
>Weather Action Group SWAG Could everyone on this mailing list please
>respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be made. Regards,
>Matthew Piper
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:28:57 PST
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Hi Matthew,
I wasn't sure if you wanted this as a private e-mail or to the list, so
for the sake of democratic process I'm posting it.
ASC is just fine! (No. 2 option)
Yours,
Kevin from Wycheproof (with a new BOM calendar! :)) )
>
>Hi All,
>
>I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural =
>meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>
>1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
>2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
>3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
>4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
>Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP
=
>so that a decision can be made.
>
>Regards,
>
>Matthew Piper
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020
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 01:45:54 PST
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Hi,
Sounds like quite a bit was accomplished at the meeting, I am sorry I
could not attend.
In regard to the name of the society, I believe it is quite important to
think carefully about the image (by the name) the new society will give
to the public. Most Australians are not into weather the same as people
in this newsgroup, and I am sure you are aware how most people react
when you tell them you chase storms. (Crazy!, why?, etc)
It is important that we do not give out an image of crazy people ( a la
Twister).
The media has now recognised that Severe Weather helps sell Newspapers
and advertising space on the TV (just think of all the TV programs and
articles you have seen on weather in the last couple of years) and
therefore a Severe Weather Organisation will no doubt get approached by
the media and therefore the public.
We should also consider the way we act and portray ourselves when we are
chasing storms. As members of a Severe Weather Organisation, this will
reflect on the Organisation itself. We must not sensationalise events.
It is essential (if we wish to be taken seriously), to contribute to the
community, whether it be reports, observations, photos, video footage to
the BoM, or just to assist people after they have been hit by a storm.
I know some of us are disappointed with the help and assistance given to
us from the BoM, but we all must understand they have a job to do, and
they do not have the time to assistant any person who may give them a
call. We can change this. Do not bother and hassle them, but when you
have some photos/video or reports on a severe weather event, take it in
and show them. I know they will be interested, and over time they will
come round because they know we are assisting them to see what is out in
the field, compared to what they see on the radar. This can make their
forecasts more accurate, beside the fact that they are weather nuts
themselves. When Ira and I first started chasing, we had no help from
the BoM. Over time, we built on that relationship (well.. mainly Ira
did) by reporting what we had seen on our chases and taking in photos.
This is why we now get along with the Perth BoM. It can be done.
I believe setting up this organisation is a great thing, but it must be
done properly and with careful thought.
It is with some of my previous thoughts, that I believe any name of the
Organisation should not have the words like "Storm Chasing" in it, as
this conjures up the wrong image that I do not wish to project out to
the public. (even though that is part of what we do)
I therefore vote for:
No. 1 Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
Any comments and discussion welcomed.
regards
John Roenfeldt
>From: "Matthew Piper"
>To:
>Subject: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
>Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:38:45 +1100
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>
>Hi All,
>
>I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural =
>meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>
>1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
>2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
>3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
>4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
>Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP
=
>so that a decision can be made.
>
>Regards,
>
>Matthew Piper
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:25:21 +0800
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Possible storms for Perth
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Looks interesting for Perth tomorrow, we've got a trough down the west
coast, also a mid level low, and mid level moisture is coming down the
trough from Tropical Cyclone Billy.
Geraldton and Kalbarri both had thunderstorms today, and that activity is
expected to move south tomorrow.
We've had easterlies in Perth all day today, no seabreaze, the max today
was 35.1 at 3:15pm, with more hot weather expected tomorrow. Currently at
6:20pm WST its sunny, the temperature is 33.3, even at Swanbourne Beach its
still hot, with 32.9
Here is what BoM is saying.
IDF02W00
FORECAST FOR METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 1635 hours on Friday , 04/12/98
ISSUED BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
FOR TONIGHT AND TOMORROW.
The temperature at 4.00pm was 34.9 degrees Celsius.
PERTH AND METROPOLITAN:
A few showers possible, with the risk of thunderstorms.
E/SE winds, fresh to strong again overnight.
TOMORROW'S MIN: 19 MAX: 33.
TOMORROW'S
FIRE DANGER: Coastal Plain: High.
Hills : High.
TOMORROW'S
UV INDEX: 13 (Extreme).
On Saturday a deepening west coast trough combined with mid
level moisture from a mid level trough off the west coast, and mid
level moisture from Tropical Cyclone Billy, should result in the
possibility of a few showers, with the risk of thunderstorms.
Unsettled weather, with the risk of thundery rain, should continue
into Sunday and Monday.
OUTLOOKS FOR PERTH FOR:
SUNDAY : Thundery rain. Max 33.
MONDAY : Unsettled. Max 31.
TUESDAY : Fine. Max 30.
Jacob
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 21:20:19 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Hi Matthew
No3 option has a nice ring to it< I think most will agree on this.
Brian
Matthew Piper wrote:
Hi All, I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural
meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so
that a decision can be made. Regards, Matthew Piper
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Subject: aussie-weather: Webpages!!!
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 04:01:56 PST
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Hi every1,
I've finally got my webpage working!!!
After a month of frustration I've managed to get some of my storm photos
on the 'net.
Thanks to Michael Bath, NetDave, Ben Quinn and everyone else who
responded to my (at times difficult) requests for help.
I think they're clickable (my HTML is still in its infancy...excuse the
terribly coloured text!) and I hope to get some of my more interesting
shots on board when I get them scanned.
The location is:
http://greenfield.fortunecity.com//manchester/4/index.html
P.S. To go from the large version please press the "Back" key on your
browser...I'm working on it!!!
Yours,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 22:07:12 +1000
From: Bob Baillie [spoton at fastinternet.net.au]
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
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Bob Baillie wrote;
My choice would be Number 2 or alternately Number 1.
Thanks for the opportunity to vote.
Kind Regards,
Bob
Matthew Piper wrote:
Hi All, I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights
inaugural meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG Could everyone on this mailing list please
respond your preference ASAP so that a decision can be made.
Regards, Matthew Piper
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 23:15:49 +1100
From: Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]
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Hi Kevin,
Just had a quick look at your webpage, Excellent photos! Do you get
weather like that down that way a lot?
Regards, Andrew.
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