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001 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]            Poll of Storm Society Name
002 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Fires etc.
003 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        VIC fire trap...
004 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Poll of Storm Society Name
005 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chaser opportunities
006 Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]     Storm chaser opportunities
007 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chaser opportunities
008 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Storm chaser opportunities
009 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            Poll of Storm Society Name
010 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Melbourne Obs
011 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
012 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Severe T'storm Warning for SE QLD
013 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        Storm chaser opportunities
014 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
015 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chaser opportunities
016 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            Storm chaser opportunities
017 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Curent Brisbane Obs
018 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
019 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storm chaser opportunities
020 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          Poll of Storm Society Name
021 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    brisbane HAIL
022 "Andrew Treloar" [pileus at hotmail.com]          Storms over NE NSW
023 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Severe storms to the north
024 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Brisbane Storms
025 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            New Society Name
026 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        New Society Name
027 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]            Servere Storms in Brisbane
028 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Brisbane storm report
029 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Back from a weeks holidays ( no real storms )
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   oh crap!; bris storms
031 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Hail in tropics...
032 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm Pictures
033 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   another storm

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From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 23:07:20 +0800
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Hi All
  
I vote Number 3. I think this is turning out to be a majority.
  
Greg
 ----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Matthew Piper 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
> Sent: 4 December 1998 9:38
> Subject: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural meeting
>to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>  
> 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
> 2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
> 3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
> 4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>  
> Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so
> that a decision can be made.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Matthew Piper

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Fires etc.
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:48:04 +1100
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We do have a radar being installed for Sydney airport at the moment. The
political decsion making took 3 years.... We received this one in 1995.

Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Phyland 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 6:10 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Fires etc.
>
>
>Hi Michael,
>Do we even have Doppler radar in this country?
>I've never seen any references to it ony TV report.
>I do however, recall a reference from someone on the list to a "white
>elephant Sydney Doppler" but can't recall who sent it.
>
>Yours,
>Kevin from Wycheproof.

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: VIC fire trap...
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 06:45:33 +1100
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You are correct Michael in assuming someone did take note of that tragedy.

My mind went into second gear and my conlusion was to have experienced
weather observers stationed around the fire region (at a reasonable
distance) checking constantly on weather conditions. They can then notify
others on making the necessary changes to their strategies.

I am still thinking of this one...

Jimmy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Scollay 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 5:16 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: VIC fire trap...
>
>
>Most of you would have heard by now that 5 firefighters were killed
>last night 2/12/98 in Victoria when the winds changed and turned the
>fire back onto them. The wind change was indeed the result of an
>approaching cold front, a cold front that had been predicted...
>
>If there existed a system that could monitor the change in wind
>direction and velocity over a particular area in real time, then this
>has the potential to save lives in circumstances such as these. A less
>reliable alternative is very up-to-date weather forecasts combined
>with timely-advice-to-the-field.
>
>I wonder whether people in Aussie-Weather have views or suggestions on
>such matters. I was rather hoping that something like portable dopplar
>radar or some other microwave system could be adapted to provide such
>a role.
>
>Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 07:06:21 +1100
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Jimmy Deguara here,

I like Storm Chasers Australis (SCA)  since we did not count the vote at the
meeting

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 07:34:36 +1100
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Jimmy here,

I believe that the area around Brisbane and northern NSW will fire today and
north of Brisbane tomorrow, so get on your ways and chase these potential
severe activity.

Perth people may want to go north of Perth for activity tomorrow 6th.

I was going to go north today 5th but Brisbane is just too far to come down
again. If anyone is interested, please e-mail or ring me 96271943 asap but I
think we will have to give this one a miss and chase only when we have the
right opportunities..

Jimmy
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e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 09:23:34 +1100
From: Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]
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 Hi Jimmy,

 Yes, the northern rivers really does go off in the right conditions. My
grandparents live up tere, was on the phone last night, they reckon it
"feels"like a good storm soon! When my grandparents says that, he is
nearly always right!
 If you are going up that way, how long would you be up there for? I
would be interested if you are driving up.

 Regards, Andrew.

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 09:28:08 +1100
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Go up somewhere today, stay there the night and come down tomorrow.
Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Puddifer 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:25 AM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
>
>
> Hi Jimmy,
>
> Yes, the northern rivers really does go off in the right conditions. My
>grandparents live up tere, was on the phone last night, they reckon it
>"feels"like a good storm soon! When my grandparents says that, he is
>nearly always right!
> If you are going up that way, how long would you be up there for? I
>would be interested if you are driving up.
>
> Regards, Andrew.

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008

Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:07:34 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Jimmy,

I've been waiting for today for a while, AVN and MRF both have LI's
going under -6!!  With TT's between 50-60 fluctuating throughout the day
and over certain areas.  

My current obs are: (10:04am EST) Some Altocumulus to my NW, clearing -
a few patches of Cirrocumulus almost overhead with some convection
occuring to my SW.  But the convection does appear to be capped.  It's
26.8C, DP of 20C, winds 5-10kts N'ly, 1009hPa and steady at the moment.

Anthony from Brisbane

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Jimmy here,
> 
> I believe that the area around Brisbane and northern NSW will fire today and
> north of Brisbane tomorrow, so get on your ways and chase these potential
> severe activity.
> 
> Perth people may want to go north of Perth for activity tomorrow 6th.
> 
> I was going to go north today 5th but Brisbane is just too far to come down
> again. If anyone is interested, please e-mail or ring me 96271943 asap but I
> think we will have to give this one a miss and chase only when we have the
> right opportunities..
> 
> Jimmy

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From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 11:12:25 +1100
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Hey
  
I Like SCA as well
  
  
l8tr

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Obs
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Remaining cool and cloudy in Melbourne. Temp 15 Dp 7. 7/8 Sc. Rainfall to
9am 1.2mm in Kilsyth. Bar 1017S .Looking at long range charts all suggest a
high consolidating in the Tasman sea later next week. Verm warm weather can
be expected in Victoria and SA on Wednesday and Thursday. Cool change
around Friday which could produce some storm activity. Hopefully this will
end Melbournes storm drought which dates back to October. Dane Newman   

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 98 13:20:47 +1000
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>I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural =
>meeting to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>
>1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
>2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
>3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
>4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
>Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP 

>so that a decision can be made.

As I said at the meeting Matt, my choice is number 2 [Australian Storm 
Chasers (Society) ASC], although it looks like 3 is by far the most 
preferred.

However I think John raised some important points and the way I see it, a 
name which contains 'storm chasers' is kind of a catch 22; it is probably 
that which will elicit most interest  from the general public/media etc 
but also is that from which our reputation might negatively preceed us - 
unfortunately humans tend to be judgemental so this is a fact of life. 
The funny thing is that while we all get a rush from a good storm, I 
couldn't imagine a 'hobby' more inappropriate than storm chasing for the 
more reckless thrill seeker -  On Thursday Paul G and I had a 300 km 
bust, but it only left us hungrier - I know others have lucked out after 
much longer distances (just read Michael T's account of the great storm 
chase this year). 

So, in order to be taken seriously, we need a clear mission statement on 
what we're about. You only have to look at the websites of Australian 
chasers to realise that they have a passion, understanding and, most 
important, a respect for severe weather. I think if we follow this lead 
then we should be able to gather the public interest and, more 
importantly, it should help us build a positive relationship with the BoM.

Cheers

David

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:21:33 +1100
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TOP PRIORITY
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
At 12.20 pm EST on Saturday the 5th of December 1998

For the Southeast Coast and Wide Bay and Burnett Districts

An area of active thunderstorms is currently located between Kingaroy
and the
Sunshine Coast and moving northeast. There is the likelihood that some
of these
thunderstorms may produce large hail or damaging wind gusts.  

People are advised to secure outside itmes, move cars under shelter and
seek
shelter.  

The next warning will be issued at 1.20 pm.

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 10:25:14 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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hi jimmy and all,

thanks for that. I am organising a chase now for tommorrow and thinking I might
go NNE.
TC Billy has lost its moisture source and is now on its death bed.

> Jimmy here,
>
> Perth people may want to go north of Perth for activity tomorrow 6th.

--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 98 13:31:08 +1000
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>I was going to go north today 5th but Brisbane is just too far to come down
>again. If anyone is interested, please e-mail or ring me 96271943 asap but I
>think we will have to give this one a miss and chase only when we have the
>right opportunities..
>
>Jimmy

Hi Jimmy and everyone

I was also keen on going north today... but I thought north would be mid 
northcoast; seems as though it will be much further up though (again!).

Cant wait for the next system!

David

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 13:32:24 +1100
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There seems to be activity from some sort of disturbance in the Hunter
region. This should produce something.

Jimmy
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>From: mildad 
>To: aussie-weather 
>Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 1:27 PM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities

>
>Hi Jimmy and everyone
>
>I was also keen on going north today... but I thought north would be mid
>northcoast; seems as though it will be much further up though (again!).
>
>Cant wait for the next system!
>
>David

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From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
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> Hi Jimmy,
>
> Yes, the northern rivers really does go off in the right conditions. My
>grandparents live up tere, was on the phone last night, they reckon it
>"feels"like a good storm soon! When my grandparents says that, he is
>nearly always right!
> If you are going up that way, how long would you be up there for? I
>would be interested if you are driving up.
>
> Regards, Andrew.
>
It looks like NE NSW and SE QLD will go off today and tonight with an upper
level trough already causing servere storms to the north of brisbane.
Although some parts of the soundings could be better, one part wich stood
out to me was:
Storm rel helicity (0-3000m) pos:  279.4 neg:    0.0 tot:  279.4 m^2/s^2
That is the highest i've seen in SE QLD so far this summer (That is good for
the development of tornadoes for those who dont know). On the 24-11-98 (the
day of the Caloundra Tornado) that figure was negative!
We also have yet another upper lever trough coming accross for
monday/tuesday so it looks to be an interesting couple of days for Brisbane
:)

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:44:10 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

I have convection firing to the SE, S, SW, NW and N of me!  The storms
to the N are quite well developed, the anvil is very long.  I can see
anvils developing S and SW.  Convection to the S is really taking off.

Anthony

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 98 15:18:46 +1000
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>>Hi Jimmy and everyone
>>
>>I was also keen on going north today... but I thought north would be mid
>>northcoast; seems as though it will be much further up though (again!).
>>
>>Cant wait for the next system!
>>
>>David

Damn -  Perhaps  should have gone after all, Nambucca heads is only about 
6 hours up from Sydney.

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1337 on Saturday the 5th of December 1998

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Northern Tablelands east of Tenterfield, Glen Innes and Armidale
Northern Rivers
Mid-North Coast north of Nambucca Heads

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon and
evening.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones and
destructive winds.

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 15:24:07 +1100
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This is the reason I had mentioned it at the meeting. I wanted desperately
to go north but I had a party to attend last night which left no time for
preparation. The only way we can get things organised in time is to decide
from at least 5 in the morning and then leave by 6am. You will be in the
areas as the storms develop, then stay over night to come down the next day.

Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: mildad 
>To: aussie-weather 
>Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 3:15 PM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm chaser opportunities
>
>Damn -  Perhaps  should have gone after all, Nambucca heads is only about
>6 hours up from Sydney.

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 12:58:53 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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I'd like to vote for number 1
i feel this name covers all aspect of severe weather better. Since we
all have different interests, lightning, tornaodes, cyclones etc i think
this covers it better.

Ira Fehlberg

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: brisbane HAIL
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 17:02:38 +1000
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Hi all

Just a quick note to say in southern Brisbane, we got quite a bit of hail!
Biggest 1.2cm.  In a 2min period, stones of about 1cm were falling very
intensely - was spectacular!

I was out taking photos of the storm and its base - its appearance hinted of
rotation...was green..
Such a huge updraught took place just before 3pm to the SSW and soon is was
massive..

I'll tell you more about the storm later - more coming? We'll see.
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James Chambers
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From: "Andrew Treloar" [pileus at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storms over NE NSW
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NSW Storms

Several large storms over NE NSW this afternoon. One crossed NSW/Qld 
border near Border Ranges. Another currently west of Grafton, moving to 
the NE. Severe Thunderstorm Advice current. 

P.S. To make messages easier to read and sort, could people posting to 
this group please change the subject line of emails rather than just 
reply to the previous?

Andrew

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Severe storms to the north
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 18:17:07 +1100
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Hi Andrew,

Good to see you on the list. If you wish or get a chance, please introduce
yourself to others on the list...

I was almost going to chase the storms and would have been there by now
chasing. Unfortunately I left the decision too late and would have liked to
chase the one to the north of Brisbane. I think someone should investigate
that one. It was very large....

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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 17:23:29 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane Storms
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Hey all!

Well, at around 4:45pm we got a great gust front coming through!  Winds
were about F7/8 - some small twigs and branches did come down.  We had a
lot of hail!  For about 2minutes, it was bucketing down marble size
hail!!  With a few that were up to about 2.5cm X 1.5cm-2cm in
diameter!!!  We had a LOT of CG's within about 300 metres, very
exhilerating!!  8mm in 5mins as well.

Happy Anthony from Brisbane

PS James - I'm wondering the same thing

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Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 06:39:46 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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like many others, I was sorry I couldn't get into the city meeting on
Thursday.
As for the name - my vote would be for whatever the Society was going to
hope to do / represent.
If it is to be made up of those interested in "the chase", then my vote
would be for SCA
If, however, it is a society interested in severe weather and interested
in doing something about access to information, warnings,radar etc as
well as the exchange of information about all types of severe wetaher
and educating each other and others about all types of severe weather
then it should be called Aust. Severe weather Soc - that would give it
more crebibility.

Don White

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: New Society Name
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:47:06 +1100
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Don, would you be interested in being part of the society? Just wondering as
you and Laurier can offer so much to its credibility. Please tell others
about its existence. We are planning to be as flexible as possible with
meeting venues on occasions to inlude others in the country wherever
possible.

It is meaning to represent all aspects of severe weather but is mainly for
storm chasers as a group at least that would be the majority of members.
Severe weather will obviously be the focus particularly in the summer....

Jimmy Deguara

-----Original Message-----
>From: Don White 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Saturday, December 05, 1998 6:38 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: New Society Name
>
>
>like many others, I was sorry I couldn't get into the city meeting on
>Thursday.
>As for the name - my vote would be for whatever the Society was going to
>hope to do / represent.
>If it is to be made up of those interested in "the chase", then my vote
>would be for SCA
>If, however, it is a society interested in severe weather and interested
>in doing something about access to information, warnings,radar etc as
>well as the exchange of information about all types of severe wetaher
>and educating each other and others about all types of severe weather
>then it should be called Aust. Severe weather Soc - that would give it
>more crebibility.
>
>Don White

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From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Servere Storms in Brisbane
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:09:32 +1100
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Hey

Well we had some quite servere storms in brisbane (Northern Suburbs in
particular) today.  The first storm(s) of they day were on the sunshine
coast and the Hinterland west of the coast, although early reports are
sketchy i can confirm that Malaney (approx. 70km NNW of Brisbane) bore the
brunt of the storms and lost power around lunchtime, and are still without
power (9pm) tonight.  Also ALL Towns and districts surrounding Malaney are
still without power.  The Energex Lightning Tracker
http://bastion.energex.com.au/strike/ was recording close to 600 (!!!!) Cg's
every 5 mins at one stage! wich is by far the highest i've seen it from a
single storm so far.  During the afternoon several storms formed around the
SE coast and some moved over the greater brisbane area.  At the present
moment there are 40 suburbs around brisbane either without power or losing
power periodically.  I havn't heard of any damage reports yet, but there is
damage to the energex power poles so no doubt there is some damage out
there.  I dont have any estimates on the amount of people out of power
either, but i was told it will be getting close to the 20 year record set
only a few weeks ago of 107 000 people.
Definately more later.

l8tr
Bodie at corplink.com.au

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Brisbane storm report
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 21:19:48 +1000
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Hi all

I have a preliminary and very informal report for you all to read.  More in
depth report when I get my photos back!
Here's the URL: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jourdey/storm/dec5_98.html

Stay happy.
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Back from a weeks holidays ( no real storms )
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:32:47 +1100
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Just as well I did not treat the week away as a storm chase as I would have
been bitterly disappointed.

A quick rundown on what happened

28 November  - South wind change overnight in the 'gong. Thought I would
catch some action from Hunter Valley northwards, but alas even by Glen Innes
at sunset I was still 50 kms behind the clearing edge. There were several
storms over the eastern escarpment, It is possible I would have got
something by going up the Pacific Hwy instead. First mistake of the trip.

29 November - Stanthorpe, reminded me of the the  bust chase week back in
late September, cool day with strato-cumulus. However by sunset interesting
non-storm Cu had built to the north of Stanthorpe.

30 November - Best chance, but wrong decisions, had already plotted a route
to stay overnight on sunshine coast as my wife wanted to check the area.
Clear skies from Stanthorpe to Esk ( upper Brisbane Valley ). The run from
Dalby to Toowoomba is a storm chasers dream, for any storm on or west of the
highway it is a superb setup with an easy 200-300km view of any Cb tops.
Straight road, slight elevation sloping off to west. Even some dusty
ploughed fields, so any F0 will look like an F4. Anyway back to the the
actual situation. Storms started springing up over the border ranges, also
some to NE. At Alexandra Headland, which is where we stayed I was wedged
between two severe warnings, one for the Gold Coast, about 150 kms south,
but no prospect with a drive through Brisbane peak hour traffic. The other
for Capricorn / Wide Bay, which is about 2-3 hours north. I could see cells
for both. I chased the southern most cell of the wide bay stuff, but it went
seaward at Noosa Heads well before I got there. Got some lightning footage
after dark as the cell became extremely active electrically ( over the
ocean ). Balmy sort of day with a  late SE change.

1 December - Stayed on sunshine coast, some Cu buildup late in day. From
Glasshouse mountains I could make out a weak anvil to far SW, but nothing
drifted coastward. SE winds were strong.

2 December - Heavy showers in morning, drove to Gympie, no action at all,
cloud cleared throughout day, strong SE. Chasing potential limited as it is
hilly with trees.

3 December - To Ballina, SE starting to moderate, just a total no-action
day, one for swimming and sightseeing.

4 December - To Woolgoolga - another chance day. Cu was slow to get going. I
did not want to head too far south too early, so we hanged around Ballina
area til 1pm. From Byron Bay I could see that Cu behind Coffs was best,
headed south. Very hot, my temp thingy said 33C around Grafton. First storm
near Grafton, well technically a storm, 1 lightning flash, ten drops of
rain. At Coffs all cells were very small and fast moving. Best cell
developed back to north between Coffs and Grafton, chased it but by time I
got to Red Rock it was already seaward. Drove back to Woolgoolga headland
and watched as south change came up coast, taking away storms.

5 December - drive home..Partly cloudy at Coffs, showers from Nambucca Heads
to Bulahdelah, some heavy showers in Kempsey area, could have been
interesting. Cleared rapidly from Bulahdelah to Newcastle, total boring
weather back in 'gong.


Michael Thompson
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: oh crap!; bris storms
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:44:22 +1100
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This was pretty much my observation from Sunshine coast as well. Got some
video of a cell off coast after dark with a few small bolts going out to air
from the anvil. Took photos as well, but they will be a lottery.

Michael

>
>They were awesome cauliflowers I saw to the SSE today over the top of you.
>They reached very high into the atmosphere - probably 15-16km at some
>stages.  Cumuli anvils - nothing fibrous.  Backsheared cumuli anvils!
>Plenty of Cloud-air strikes - in fact any type of lightning really. (I
>didn't see ball lightning!)

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Hail in tropics...
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:59:00 +1100
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I have heard of hail at Tennant Creek.

Eastwards I know that Bundaberg has had several hail storms in the area. But
Bundaberg is short of the tropics by a couple of hundred Kms.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Graham 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Tuesday, 1 December 1998 19:34
>Subject: aussie-weather: Hail in tropics...
>
>
>I am interested to know the occurrence of hail in tropical regions - I
>wouldn't expect it would be very common.  Does anyone have any
>information?

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm Pictures
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:49:20 +1100
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Excellent photos Anthony, the first two are perfect examples !!! up there
with the best USA storm pics.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony Cornelius 
>To: Australian Weather Mailing List 
>Date: Monday, 30 November 1998 9:27
>Subject: aussie-weather: Storm Pictures
>
>
>Hi all,
>
>NEMAS has kindly let me put up a few of the storm images I took on last
>Tuesday.  The URL's are:
>
>http://www.nemas.net/album/images/guster3.jpg
>http://www.nemas.net/album/images/guster4.jpg
>http://www.nemas.net/album/images/turbulentsky.jpg

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: another storm
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:52:23 +1100
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Storm Killer Thompson passed through the Gold Coast on the probably your
only clear day this past two weeks ( 3rd December )

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: steve baynham 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Monday, 30 November 1998 18:37
>Subject: aussie-weather: another storm
>
>
>hey,
>well...yet another storm about to lash the gold coast! this makes it about
>4 or 5 days in a row!! just got our first flash of lightning with a loud
>thunderous roar!! looks like i'm gunna have to get off the computer
>again!!! GEEEZ!!  a big gust of wind has just came up, looks to be a very
>strong southerly, just started raining too!! very dark clouds! looks nice.!
>see yas
>steve