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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] warning mistake
002 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Interested in chasing
003 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Thelma: cat4; 955hpa
004 "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au] Another Cyclone?
005 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au Poll of Society Name
006 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] vote/ Thelma
007 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] THELMA THE BEAST
008 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] morning storm
009 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au] Thelma Advice #12
010 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] Thelma: cat4; 955hpa
011 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au] Poll of Society Name
012 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au] vote/ Thelma
013 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) GMSD satpix not working?
014 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Another Cyclone?
015 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
016 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Admin: Mail service
018 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
019 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. GMSD satpix not working?
020 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au] Severe Thunderstorm Advice - NE NSW...
021 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Thelma
022 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Damaging hail reported
023 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
024 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] Darwin Sky cam
025 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Radar
026 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] vote/ Thelma
027 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] GMSD satpix not working?
028 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] (no subject)
029 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Storm Cam in Darwin
030 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Storm Cam in Darwin
031 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Radar
032 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au] GMSD satpix not working?
033 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
034 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) GMSD satpix not working?
035 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au GMSD satpix not working?
036 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Cat 5!!!!!
037 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. GMSD satpix not working?
038 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) GMSD satpix not working?
039 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] refreshing images
040 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. refreshing images
041 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] GMSD satpix not working?
042 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com] Thelma Winds now to 320kmh
043 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au] This cyclone has to set some form of record
044 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] SAT DATA
045 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Thelma Winds now to 320kmh
046 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au] Society Names etc...
047 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Latest on Thelma
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001
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: warning mistake
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:11:45 +1000
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Hi all
Just to point out an obvious mistake in the advice. It says gusts to
270km/h - which should be 170km/h. Perhaps it'll reach that strength in the
next 2 days maybe.
>VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 270 kilometres per hour are
>expected to develop over the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular
>during tomorrow as the core of the cyclone moves closer.
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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002
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Interested in chasing
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:46:34 +1100
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>I am considering going on another chase in about a week or so. Anyone
>interested?? I begin my holidays at that time...
>
Unfortunately I go back to work next wednesday, but any weekend chase may be
possible. It has been a very frustrating year with lots of action from the
mid north coast northwards, but little southwards.
Michael
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003
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Thelma: cat4; 955hpa
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:45:56 +1000
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(maybe that 270km/h gust wasn't a mistake?>> this one says up to 280km/h!)
TOP PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma
ADVICE NUMBER 9
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 11pm CST Monday 7/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
between Goulburn Island and Daly Mouth, including Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Port Keats.
At 11pm CST SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma CATEGORY 4 was centred
about 235 kilometres north of Darwin and 125 kilometres northof Snake Bay.
The cyclone has been moving slowly south southwest and is expected to
move closer to the Tiwi Islands before the track changes towards the
southwest during Tuesday. Darwin is expected to experience the outer
edge of the circulation of Thelma during Tuesday.
GALES with gusts to 120 kilometres per hour are being experienced
across the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular, and are expected
to extend south to Darwin and Daly Mouth on Tuesday, and further
south to Port Keats during Wednesday.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts over 280 kilometres per hour are
expected to develop over the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular
during Tuesday morning as the core of the cyclone moves closer.
DESTRUCTIVE WINDS may extend to Darwin on Tuesday night.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause flooding over the northwest
Top End overnight and during Tuesday.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING at the coast
between Goulburn Island and Cape Fourcroy in the next 24 hours, not
including Darwin.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 11pm CST :
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
10.3 degrees South 130.9 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest
at 7 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 225 kilometres per hour and intensifying
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 4
. Central pressure......... 955 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Goulburn Island and Daly Mouth including Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Port Keats.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 2am CST
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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004
From: "Ben Quinn" [Bodie at corplink.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Another Cyclone?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:04:42 +1100
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Hey
A little while ago someone posted a message with the login and password for
the Realtime Observations (becouse at the time the L: test P: test wasn't
working at the time). I had to Re-install my emailer today and i cant
access the message with the longin and password anymore. I'm pretty sure
the login was Bomw0057 and there was a password for November and a different
one for December. If you posted this message could you post it again
please?
l8tr
Bodie at corplink.com.au
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005
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 20:29:40 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Society Name
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G'Day Everyone,
I agree with the arguments put forward about the name requiring a degree
of credibility and professionalism. Thus, I'll re-submit my vote. Either of
the following two names are more than acceptable to me.
Australian Severe Weather Society (ASWS)
or
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
Cheers,
Duane Van Schoonhoven
Paracombe, SA
Australia
Jane ONeill wrote:
> I still like Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW, and agree with
> everyone else's comments about concerns re public perception of the group.
> We may choose to call ourselves 'Storm Charser' in private, but I agree that
> the public perception is of utmost importance if we are to have credibility
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006
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 06:52:49 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: vote/ Thelma
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Hi Everyone
Sorry for not replying sooner as ive been sitting back
and obseving comments from others. Im not a storm chaser a such but
enjoy weather and the wierd things it comes up with from time to time.
I to am one that will change my vote to ASWS wiyh second pref to ASWA
Michele comments rang home with me.
I also need to find out where I can work out all the codes and
abbreviation you guys use in your emails on the weather as they are over
my head.
Also i need to know how you transfer eg: cyclone warning and web
addresses to email you seem to get the full information I cant see you
all typing this word for word to email, This may sound stupid to some
but please remember Im only learning and without you Guy we can't learn
either.
And on a final note TC THELMA looks like giving the folk in Darwin a bit
of a Punch today as she passes by she has really intensified over night.
regards to all looking forward to all your help
Thanks
Brian Wheldon
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007
From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: THELMA THE BEAST
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:34:31 +1100
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Morning All,
Thelma pressure dropped down to 950 hPa and now CAT 4. Hope the guys from
the list that are up there are ready for something like this. Winds up to
280km.
Good luck guys ( i know they've gone but they may need more luck)
Andrew McDonald.
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: morning storm
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hey guys,
well, the most strangest thing happened this morning. at 4 a.m (qld time)
we were awoken by continuous thunder, couldn't see any lightning cos i was
still in bed and the blinds were shut. but then we had a big flash of
lightning, it would have been within 100m for sure cos there was very
little time delay!! so i got out of bed and walked on the balcony but
couldn't see the lightning cos it was behind us. the thing is, i've never
heard lightning like this b4, it sounded different. so, after hearing and
watching the storm for about half an hour, it all of a sudden stopped and
was never heard of again. it was like someone flicked the switch at the
powerpoint. what could make a storm just stop?? anyway, the whole thing was
totally awesome!!!!
steve from gold coast
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009
From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Thelma Advice #12
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:52:36 +0800
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Hi All
Here's the latest updates on Thelma
TOP PRIORITY
CORRECTED TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 12
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 8.15 am CST (6.45 am WST) Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
between Cape Don and Kalumburu in Western Australia, including
Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Kuri Bay in Western Australia.
CORRECTION TO TIME:
At 8.15am CST (6:45 am WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was
centred about 175 kilometres north northwest of Darwin and 80
kilometres northwest of Snake Bay.
The cyclone is now moving southwest at 10 kilometres per hour
and is expected to move past the Tiwi Islands today.
The very destructive core of the cyclone is currently passing over
the western end of the Tiwi Islands.
The outer edge of the cyclone is expected to affect Darwin late this
morning or this afternoon.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 240 kilometres per hour are
being experienced on the islands and should continue for another 6 to
12 hours.
GALES with gusts to 120 kilometeres per hour are expected to extend
south to Darwin and Daly Mouth this late this morning and possibly
further southwest to the Kimberley Coast early tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 140 kilometres per hour may extend to
Darwin late this afternoon if the cyclone takes a more southward
track.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause flooding over the northwest
Top End.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING at the coast
between Cape Don and Cape Fourcroy in the next 6-12 hours, not
including Darwin.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8.15am CST (6:45am WST):
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
11.0 degrees South 130.1 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
at 10 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 240 kilometres per hour and intensifying
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 4
. Central pressure......... 950 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Cape Don and Kalumburu, including Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Kuri Bay.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 11 am CST (9:30 am WST).
END.
Greg
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 09:56:45 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Thelma: cat4; 955hpa
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yep, thats what i heard on the radio just now!!! 280km/hr!!!!!!! and it was
sposed to brush darwin sometime today.
steve goldycoast
At 11:45 PM 12/7/98 +1000, you wrote:
>(maybe that 270km/h gust wasn't a mistake?>> this one says up to 280km/h!)
>
>TOP PRIORITY
>TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma
>ADVICE NUMBER 9
>Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
>at 11pm CST Monday 7/12/1998.
>
>A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
>between Goulburn Island and Daly Mouth, including Darwin.
>
>A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Port Keats.
>
>At 11pm CST SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma CATEGORY 4 was centred
>about 235 kilometres north of Darwin and 125 kilometres northof Snake Bay.
>The cyclone has been moving slowly south southwest and is expected to
>move closer to the Tiwi Islands before the track changes towards the
>southwest during Tuesday. Darwin is expected to experience the outer
>edge of the circulation of Thelma during Tuesday.
>
>GALES with gusts to 120 kilometres per hour are being experienced
>across the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular, and are expected
>to extend south to Darwin and Daly Mouth on Tuesday, and further
>south to Port Keats during Wednesday.
>
>VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts over 280 kilometres per hour are
>expected to develop over the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular
>during Tuesday morning as the core of the cyclone moves closer.
>
>DESTRUCTIVE WINDS may extend to Darwin on Tuesday night.
>HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause flooding over the northwest
>Top End overnight and during Tuesday.
>
>DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING at the coast
>between Goulburn Island and Cape Fourcroy in the next 24 hours, not
>including Darwin.
>
>Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 11pm CST :
> . Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
> 10.3 degrees South 130.9 degrees East
> . Recent movement.......... towards the south southwest
> at 7 kilometres per hour
> . Wind gusts near centre... 225 kilometres per hour and intensifying
> . Intensity................ CATEGORY 4
> . Central pressure......... 955 hectopascals
>
>REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
>areas between Goulburn Island and Daly Mouth including Darwin.
>
>A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Port Keats.
>
>The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 2am CST
>------------------------------------------------------
>James Chambers
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011
From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Society Name
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:54:49 +0800
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Hi All
I would also like to resubmit my vote for Australian Severe Weather
Association (ASWA)
I agree with what everyone has been saying about our name needing to have a
more professional approach and meaning to what we do. It's not just chasing.
Regards
Greg Spencer
----- Original Message -----
>From: Duane Van Schoonhoven
>To:
>Sent: 7 December 1998 17:59
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Society Name
>
>
>G'Day Everyone,
>
>I agree with the arguments put forward about the name requiring a degree
>of credibility and professionalism. Thus, I'll re-submit my vote. Either of
>the following two names are more than acceptable to me.
>
> Australian Severe Weather Society (ASWS)
>
> or
>
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Duane Van Schoonhoven
>Paracombe, SA
>Australia
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012
From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: vote/ Thelma
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:03:34 +0800
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Hi Brian
I can help more with transferring notes and address to the e-mail. Its
really quite simple to do when you know how. Simply go to the web page that
you want to show in the e-mail. If you want to include an address, left
click once on the title then right click and select COPY. Then go to the
e-mail and put the cursor in the place where you want the address to show
and either right click and select PASTE or press CTRL+V.
For adding info from the page, press and hold the mouse button at the
beginning of the text that you want to transfer and drag the mouse down
until everything you want to include is highlighted. Then the procedure is
pretty much the same as before, right click and select COPY, go to the
e-mail, place the cursor where you want it to go, right click and select
PASTE.
With the abbreviations, the only ones I know that have been coming up lately
and quite frequently are
TC - Tropical Cyclone
CG - Cloud to Ground Lightning
CC - Cloud to Cloud Lightning
If there is any other's let us know and we will inform you as to what they
mean
Hope this info helps
Regards
Greg Spencer
hawk at aisnet.net.au
----- Original Message -----
>From: Brian Wheldon
>To:
>Sent: 8 December 1998 3:52
>Subject: aussie-weather: vote/ Thelma
>
>
>Hi Everyone
> Sorry for not replying sooner as ive been sitting back
>and obseving comments from others. Im not a storm chaser a such but
>enjoy weather and the wierd things it comes up with from time to time.
>I to am one that will change my vote to ASWS wiyh second pref to ASWA
>Michele comments rang home with me.
>I also need to find out where I can work out all the codes and
>abbreviation you guys use in your emails on the weather as they are over
>my head.
>Also i need to know how you transfer eg: cyclone warning and web
>addresses to email you seem to get the full information I cant see you
>all typing this word for word to email, This may sound stupid to some
>but please remember Im only learning and without you Guy we can't learn
>either.
>And on a final note TC THELMA looks like giving the folk in Darwin a bit
>of a Punch today as she passes by she has really intensified over night.
>
>regards to all looking forward to all your help
>Thanks
>Brian Wheldon
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013
From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:50:34 GMT
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If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
and let me know what happens. This is the US Navy URL for SW Pacific
GMS5 images, and provides (IMHO) the best and must timely satpix for
our area, but since about 10am edst today I have been getting an
"unable to locate server....does not have a DNS entry" error. I need
to work out whether it's a problem with my ISP's DNS tables or a
broader problem.
Many Thanks
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Another Cyclone?
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:54:40 GMT
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 00:04:42 +1100, you wrote:
>Hey
>
>A little while ago someone posted a message with the login and password for
>the Realtime Observations (becouse at the time the L: test P: test wasn't
>working at the time). I had to Re-install my emailer today and i cant
>access the message with the longin and password anymore. I'm pretty sure
>the login was Bomw0057 and there was a password for November and a different
>one for December. If you posted this message could you post it again
>please?
>
Ben, go to my site, follow links to Current Australian Weather -->
Information and Data and the details are at item 1.
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 10:57:45 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
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laurier,
its working for me!:)
steve from goldy
At 12:50 AM 12/8/98 GMT, you wrote:
>If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
>http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
>
>and let me know what happens. This is the US Navy URL for SW Pacific
>GMS5 images, and provides (IMHO) the best and must timely satpix for
>our area, but since about 10am edst today I have been getting an
>"unable to locate server....does not have a DNS entry" error. I need
>to work out whether it's a problem with my ISP's DNS tables or a
>broader problem.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Laurier Williams
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:19:15 +1100
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Hi Laurier,
Im having the same problem as well. Im using IE4 and it brings up a message
saying a connection with the server could not be established.
Matthew Piper
-----Original Message-----
>From: Laurier Williams
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Tuesday, 8 December 1998 11:50
>Subject: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
>
>
>If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
>http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
>
>and let me know what happens. This is the US Navy URL for SW Pacific
>GMS5 images, and provides (IMHO) the best and must timely satpix for
>our area, but since about 10am edst today I have been getting an
>"unable to locate server....does not have a DNS entry" error. I need
>to work out whether it's a problem with my ISP's DNS tables or a
>broader problem.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Laurier Williams
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:55:04 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> duh, um good point Jacob. Apologies to Queenslanders for forgetting about
> daylight savings!!
>
> an apologetic Jane....
[snip]
No need to apologise Jane. Sorry to be a pain and know-it-all by
saying it's a mute point ... daylight savings, time zone differences
etc. should make bugger-all difference to the arrival of mail with
reference to your local time.
What happens is that your mailer examines the mail header of incoming
mail, looks at the time stamp placed by the orginating mailer, then
works out where that is positioned with respect to other messages
(provided date/time sorting is used). Most mailers will take into
account any offsets present in orginiating time stamps.
The upshot of all this is that all persons sending mail should try and
ensure that their local clocks are set correctly. This being done, no
matter where you are on planet Earth, the same instant of time should
be the same everywhere e.g. let's take a hypothetical mail sent at
00UTC on 7 December, 1998...
199812070000UTC = 00:00 GMT on 7 Dec 1998 at Greenwich near London UK.
= 11:00 +1100 on 7 Dec 1998 in Sydney, Melbourne and Hobart.
= 10:00 +1000 on 7 Dec 1998 in Brisbane
= 08:00 +0800 on 7 Dec 1998 in Perth
= 16:00 -0800 on 6 Dec 1998 in Los Angeles, California USA
Every time in the above list is the same instant with local
representations included simply to indicate the local time of day. The
offset present is the offset from GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). Provided
you know where you are on Earth time-wise, you should be able to set
the local time offset correctly, Win95/98 provides a neat world map
GUI in the Control Panel to do this which should be OK provided you
base CMOS clock is OK.
There is only one gripe left with all of this. For some obscure
reason, Australia never seems to get its act into gear with respect to
proper and timely notification of daylight savings cut-over. This
makes it very hard for vendors who like to include such timely-info in
their Operating System (O/S) releases. So there is some risk that
actual daylight savings cutover times could differ from what your O/S
thinks it ought to be. That's just a pain since then you must set it
manually which in some cases requires rebooting to get back to the
BIOS-level.
I get around this problem by timing my UNIX computer with GMT and
syncing that off an NTP server in our intranet. This leaves all the
local time offsets up to the UNIX Windowing environment and
applications or the SunPC thingy that runs Win95. Incidently,
Win95/98/NT has a mind of its own when it comes to time so don't be
surprised if Bill's view of time differs from the computer's base
time. That's just life's pain with Bill's software:-)
As a last point, make sure your CMOS battery is OK since I've had
cases of machines left running for a couple of years, then turned-off
to change something like the time, then turned back on only to lose
all data about what disk it had, memory, BIOS version etc. We've
retired machines simply because their kind of battery isn't available
anymore!
I hope all this makes some sense:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 11:59:57 +1000
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
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well,
i'm using netscape 4 (communicator) and its working perfectly. mmmm jeez
thelma looks good on this GMSD picture as at 11:30 edst. you can clearly
see the eye. try here :-
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/images/gmsd.jpg
steve
At 12:50 AM 12/8/98 GMT, you wrote:
>If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
>http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
>
>and let me know what happens. This is the US Navy URL for SW Pacific
>GMS5 images, and provides (IMHO) the best and must timely satpix for
>our area, but since about 10am edst today I have been getting an
>"unable to locate server....does not have a DNS entry" error. I need
>to work out whether it's a problem with my ISP's DNS tables or a
>broader problem.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Laurier Williams
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 13:10:37 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
> http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
Telstra's proxy, which ought to be one of the most reliable, claims
that the server doesn't have a DNS entry.
If one manages to get through, it could be working via a non-refreshed
DNS cache. The big-wide up-to-date internet world doesn't seem to know
this server's whereabouts:-(
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:11:34 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Thunderstorm Advice - NE NSW...
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IDW16N00
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1236 on Tuesday the 8th of December 1998
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
Northern Tablelands, Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast
North West Slopes and Plains.
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
* put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets
* move indoors away from windows
During and after storms people should:
* take extreme care when driving
* beware of fallen trees and power lines
* keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away
If your house is damaged contact your local State Emergency Service unit,
listed under "S" in the White Pages, for emergency assistance. Don't use
the
telephone during storms.
TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current Northern Tablelands, Northern
Rivers, Mid-North Coast and North West Slopes.
NOT FOR BROADCAST: This advice message is valid until 6pm. The Bureau and
SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this time.
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Thelma
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:53:33 +1100
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Update on Thelma....
TOP PRIORITY TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 14
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN at 2 pm CST (12.30 pm WST)
Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING continues for coastal and island communities between Cape
Don and
Kalumburu in Western Australia, including Darwin. A CYCLONE WATCH extends
west
to Kuri Bay in Western Australia.
At 2 pm CST (12.30 pm WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was centred about
165 kilometres northwest of Darwin and 100 kilometres west of Snake Bay. The
cyclone is now moving southwest at 11
kilometres per hour parallel to the coast. The very destructive core of the
cyclone is just offshore of the western end of Bathurst Island. The outer
edge of the cyclone is currently affecting Darwin. DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with
gusts to 170 kilometres per hour are being experienced over the western Tiwi
Islands and
should ease slowly after 12 to 18 hours, and gales easing within 24 hours.
GALES with gusts to 120 kilometres per hour are expected to develop near
Darwin this
afternoon and persist for about 24 hours. GALES will extend southwards to
the
Daly Mouth this evening and possibly further west to the Kimberley Coast
during
tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE wind gusts are no longer expected to affect Darwin unless
the cyclone takes a more southward track. HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause
significant stream rises that may lead to widespread flooding over the
northwest
Top End.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING at the coast
between Cape Don and Cape Fourcroy in the next 12 hours, not including
Darwin.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 2 pm CST (12.30 pm WST): .
Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of 11.3 degrees South 129.8
degrees East .
Recent movement.......... towards the southwest at 11 kilometres per hour .
Wind gusts near centre... 240 kilometres per hour and intensifying .
Intensity................ CATEGORY 4 . Central pressure......... 950
hectopascals
Jane
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Damaging hail reported
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:58:42 +1000
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TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1534 on Tuesday the 8th of December 1998
This advice affects people in the following weather districts and replaces
the earlier advice issued at 1240pm:
Northern Tablelands, Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast
North West Slopes and Plains, Central West Slopes, north of Dubbo.
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon andevening.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall capable of producing
flashflooding.
Damaging hail has been reported from around Guyra and Tamworth.
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:58:39 +1100
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It isn't working for me, Laurier. I press reload and cannot get the latest..
Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: steve baynham
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 11:58 AM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
>
>
>laurier,
>its working for me!:)
>steve from goldy
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:58:42 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Darwin Sky cam
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Hi All
Does anyone know if Darwin has Sky cam there so we may see whats
happening?.
Brian
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Radar
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:05:37 +1100
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Could someone with radar save all the images and post them to Michael Bath
unless he suggests he has them.. He likes to keep a record of any
significant radar....
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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:02:59 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: vote/ Thelma
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Hi Greg
Thanks for the valuable information Its nice to know some of us
arn't rude and nasty like i have encountered the last few days.
Greg Spencer wrote:
> Hi Brian
>
> I can help more with transferring notes and address to the e-mail. Its
> really quite simple to do when you know how. Simply go to the web page that
> you want to show in the e-mail. If you want to include an address, left
> click once on the title then right click and select COPY. Then go to the
> e-mail and put the cursor in the place where you want the address to show
> and either right click and select PASTE or press CTRL+V.
>
> For adding info from the page, press and hold the mouse button at the
> beginning of the text that you want to transfer and drag the mouse down
> until everything you want to include is highlighted. Then the procedure is
> pretty much the same as before, right click and select COPY, go to the
> e-mail, place the cursor where you want it to go, right click and select
> PASTE.
>
> With the abbreviations, the only ones I know that have been coming up lately
> and quite frequently are
>
> TC - Tropical Cyclone
> CG - Cloud to Ground Lightning
> CC - Cloud to Cloud Lightning
>
> If there is any other's let us know and we will inform you as to what they
> mean
>
> Hope this info helps
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Spencer
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:04:38 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Hi Laurier
Don't worry there must be a problem at their end i get the
same error message
regards
Brian
Laurier Williams wrote:
> If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
> http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
>
> and let me know what happens. This is the US Navy URL for SW Pacific
> GMS5 images, and provides (IMHO) the best and must timely satpix for
> our area, but since about 10am edst today I have been getting an
> "unable to locate server....does not have a DNS entry" error. I need
> to work out whether it's a problem with my ISP's DNS tables or a
> broader problem.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Laurier Williams
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:12:03 +1100
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Compare the following link to the satpics at 3:30 UTC
http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh?ctlfile=avn_18Z.ctl&ptype
=map&var=LFTX&level=1000&nlevels=16&op1=none&op2=none&hour=06Z&day=8&month=d
ec&year=1998&proj=aust&lon0=280&dlon=50&lat0=-60&dlat=60&type=shaded&cint=de
f&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=
Click on the area around Central Eastern NSW. ....The Lifted Index works
quite well
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html
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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Storm Cam in Darwin
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:16:17 +1100
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Amazingly - storm cam in Darwin is still running and updating.
Take a look at.....
http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html
Jane
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm Cam in Darwin
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 05:43:10 GMT
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:16:17 +1100, Jane wrote:
>Amazingly - storm cam in Darwin is still running and updating.
>
>Take a look at.....
>http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html
>
Actually, given that the cyclone is only ~160km away, things are still
relatively peaceful in Darwin -- Wind 18 knots gusting 32, barometer
steady on 999hPa (has been for 3 hours) and heavy rain. The hourly obs
are available at http://tgsv7.nws.noaa.gov/weather/current/YPDN.html.
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Radar
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 05:58:04 GMT
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:05:37 +1100, you wrote:
>Could someone with radar save all the images and post them to Michael Bath
>unless he suggests he has them.. He likes to keep a record of any
>significant radar....
I've been auto-downloading and archiving the Darwin 256 and 1024km
panels each 10 mins since 22.30UTC this morning and will continue
doing so.
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:08:00 +0800
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Hi Laurier
I am using IE 5 and it doesn't work for me either. From reading other
peoples replies, it seems to be working only on Netscape and that makes no
sense to me as I don't see how a different browser would make a difference
Regards
Greg Spencer
hawk at aisnet.net.au
----- Original Message -----
>From: Laurier Williams
>To:
>Sent: 8 December 1998 8:50
>Subject: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
>
>
>If anyone's online at the moment (11.45edst) could you click on
>
>http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:24:27 +1100
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It is not working on netscape as well...
Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: Greg Spencer
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 5:14 PM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
>
>
>Hi Laurier
>
>I am using IE 5 and it doesn't work for me either. From reading other
>peoples replies, it seems to be working only on Netscape and that makes no
>sense to me as I don't see how a different browser would make a difference
>
>Regards
>
>Greg Spencer
>hawk at aisnet.net.au
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 06:31:16 GMT
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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:08:00 +0800, Greg wrote:
>Hi Laurier
>
>I am using IE 5 and it doesn't work for me either. From reading other
>peoples replies, it seems to be working only on Netscape and that makes no
>sense to me as I don't see how a different browser would make a difference
>
No, I think it is down to the DNS tables, as Michael pointed out:
>If one manages to get through, it could be working via a non-refreshed
>DNS cache. The big-wide up-to-date internet world doesn't seem to know
>this server's whereabouts:-(
I'm not too conversant with the workings of DNS, but as I understand
it, the tables (which convert the alpha URL you type in to its digital
form, e.g. 12.132.25.2) circulate around all net servers over a period
of time, with new additions and deletions gradually working their way
around the system.
In this case, it seems that the npmoc navy site is no longer found in
5 or 6 separate ISP's DNS tables, so either (a) the site has been
pulled off the net (unlikely), or (b) there is something funny with
the DNS tables which will hopefully be rectified when the next update
propagates to our ISPs.
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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035
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:10:26 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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I'm using netscape Communicator 4.5 and it isn't working for me either.
Duane
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> It is not working on netscape as well...
>
> Jimmy
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 17:39:45 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 15
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 5 pm CST (3.30 pm WST) Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island communities
between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau in Western Australia, including
Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island in Western Australia.
At 5 pm CST (3.30 pm WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was centred
about 165 kilometres northwest of Darwin and 120 kilometres west of
Snake Bay.
The cyclone is now moving southwest at 10 kilometres per hour
parallel to the coast. The very destructive core of the cyclone is
just offshore of the western end of Bathurst Island. The outer edge
of the cyclone is currently affecting Darwin.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 200 kilometres per hour are
being experienced over the western Tiwi Islands and should ease
slowly after about 12 hours, with gales easing in 24 to 36 hours.
GALES with gusts to 110 kilometres per hour are being experienced
near Darwin and are expected to persist for about 24 hours.
GALES will extend southwards to the Daly Mouth tonight and
further west to the Kimberley Coast during tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE wind gusts are no longer expected to affect Darwin unless
the cyclone takes a more southward track.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause significant stream rises that may lead
to widespread flooding over the northwest Top End tonight, extending
to the north Kimberley late tomorrow.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING at the coast
between Cape Don and Cape Fourcroy in the next 12 hours, not
including Darwin. Also over the north Kimberley coast tomorrow night.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 5 pm CST (3.30 pm WST):
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
11.5 degrees South 129.6 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
at 10 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 295 kilometres per hour and intensifying
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 5
. Central pressure......... 935 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau, including Darwin. A
CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST).
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037
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:31:34 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
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Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:08:00 +0800, Greg wrote:
>
> >Hi Laurier
> >
> >I am using IE 5 and it doesn't work for me either. From reading other
> >peoples replies, it seems to be working only on Netscape and that makes no
> >sense to me as I don't see how a different browser would make a difference
> >
> No, I think it is down to the DNS tables, as Michael pointed out:
>
> >If one manages to get through, it could be working via a non-refreshed
> >DNS cache. The big-wide up-to-date internet world doesn't seem to know
> >this server's whereabouts:-(
[snip]
I've just been reading more mail about this problem. Other than DNS,
as Laurier rightly points out, the host may have been removed from the
'net without warning (nasty). I can't check this out as I can't
"ping", "traceroute" or "nslookup" beyond our Telstra firewall:-(
The most common reason for the "IE can see it, NetScape can't" or
vice-versa is their respective management and use of both memory and
disk caches. Most of the time, a simple "refresh" or "reload" will
kick things along to the real status rather than simply recalling from
the cache(s). In one case, using NetScape V4.5, I found a site that I
knew had been refreshed. I hit which failed. I then dived
into the and reduced all caches to "0" then cleared them
and hit . That also failed so I quit Netscape altogether and
restarted it. That worked. This little story proves just how hard it
can be to get a true picture...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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038
From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 08:51:39 GMT
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On Tue, 08 Dec 1998 18:31:34 +1100, Michael Scollay
wrote:
>I've just been reading more mail about this problem. Other than DNS,
>as Laurier rightly points out, the host may have been removed from the
>'net without warning (nasty). I can't check this out as I can't
>"ping", "traceroute" or "nslookup" beyond our Telstra firewall:-(
>
>The most common reason for the "IE can see it, NetScape can't" or
>vice-versa is their respective management and use of both memory and
>disk caches. Most of the time, a simple "refresh" or "reload" will
>kick things along to the real status rather than simply recalling from
>the cache(s). In one case, using NetScape V4.5, I found a site that I
tech stuff snipped
Thanks Michael. In the meantime, the offending site has come back on
air!
BTW, I'm not using Netscape or IE -- but Filedog, an auto download
program. (But I did check the US Navy site out using Netscape when I
found that Filedog wasn't downloading it.)
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:00:12 +1100
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: refreshing images
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Just one more email about refreshing browsers: if you hold down 'shift'
while clicking reload in Netscape, it definitely does reload everything,
totally ignoring everything in cache, including prompting for passwords -
just try it!
Michael
>The most common reason for the "IE can see it, NetScape can't" or
>vice-versa is their respective management and use of both memory and
>disk caches. Most of the time, a simple "refresh" or "reload" will
>kick things along to the real status rather than simply recalling from
>the cache(s). In one case, using NetScape V4.5, I found a site that I
>knew had been refreshed. I hit which failed. I then dived
>into the and reduced all caches to "0" then cleared them
>and hit . That also failed so I quit Netscape altogether and
>restarted it. That worked. This little story proves just how hard it
>can be to get a true picture...
>
>Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
*==========================================================*
Michael Bath Oakhurst, Sydney mbath at ozemail.com.au
Australian Severe Weather
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:34:54 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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To: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: refreshing images
Michael Bath wrote:
>
> Just one more email about refreshing browsers: if you hold down 'shift'
> while clicking reload in Netscape, it definitely does reload everything,
> totally ignoring everything in cache, including prompting for passwords -
> just try it!
>
> Michael
Thanks Michael. You reminded me of this trick which I'd forgotten:-(
Cheers,
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041
From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: GMSD satpix not working?
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:24:01 +1100
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Laurier,
I tried to log on the same site this morning with the same
result.
Terry
dymprog at mpx.com.au
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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Thelma Winds now to 320kmh
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:58:31 +1100
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TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau in Western Australia, including
Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island in Western Australia.
At 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was centred
about 175 kilometres west northwest of Darwin and 145 kilometres west
of Snake Bay.
The cyclone is now moving southwest at 9 kilometres per hour
parallel to the coast. The very destructive core of the cyclone is
just offshore of the western end of Bathurst Island. The outer edge
of the cyclone is currently affecting Darwin. The cyclone is expected
to move towards the NE Kimberley coast in the next 24-48 hours.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 200 kilometres per hour are
being experienced over the western Tiwi Islands and should ease
slowly after about 6 to 12 hours, with gales easing in 24 to 36
hours.
GALES with gusts to 110 kilometres per hour are being experienced
near Darwin and are expected to persist for about 24 hours.
GALES will extend southwards to Port Keats tonight and further west
to the Kimberley Coast during tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE wind gusts are no longer expected to affect Darwin unless
the cyclone takes a more southward track.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause significant stream rises that may lead
to widespread flooding over the northwest Top End tonight, extending
to the north Kimberley late tomorrow.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING over the north
coast of the Tiwi Islands in the next 6 hours and also over the north
Kimberley coast tomorrow night.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST):
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
11.6 degrees South 129.4 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
at 9 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 320 kilometres per hour
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 5
. Central pressure......... 925 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas betwe
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043
From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: This cyclone has to set some form of record
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 19:03:29 +0800
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Hi All,
Have a look at the internal wind speeds recorded.
TOP PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau in Western Australia, including
Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island in Western Australia.
At 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was centred
about 175 kilometres west northwest of Darwin and 145 kilometres west
of Snake Bay.
The cyclone is now moving southwest at 9 kilometres per hour
parallel to the coast. The very destructive core of the cyclone is
just offshore of the western end of Bathurst Island. The outer edge
of the cyclone is currently affecting Darwin. The cyclone is expected
to move towards the NE Kimberley coast in the next 24-48 hours.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 200 kilometres per hour are
being experienced over the western Tiwi Islands and should ease
slowly after about 6 to 12 hours, with gales easing in 24 to 36
hours.
GALES with gusts to 110 kilometres per hour are being experienced
near Darwin and are expected to persist for about 24 hours.
GALES will extend southwards to Port Keats tonight and further west
to the Kimberley Coast during tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE wind gusts are no longer expected to affect Darwin unless
the cyclone takes a more southward track.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause significant stream rises that may lead
to widespread flooding over the northwest Top End tonight, extending
to the north Kimberley late tomorrow.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING over the north
coast of the Tiwi Islands in the next 6 hours and also over the north
Kimberley coast tomorrow night.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST):
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
11.6 degrees South 129.4 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
at 9 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 320 kilometres per hour
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 5
. Central pressure......... 925 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau, including Darwin. A
CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 11 pm CST (9.30 pm WST).
END.
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044
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 22:38:38 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Hi All
Satelite images are now working again. Go for it guys. I run
both IE5 and netscape and i had problemms as stated with both.
Bye for now
Brian Wheldon
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045
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Thelma Winds now to 320kmh
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 04:26:59 PST
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Hi every1,
Geezus, Category 5!
Just a boring statistical question...when was the last Category 5 in
Australian waters - I'm thinking ten years?
>
> Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST):
> . Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
> 11.6 degrees South 129.4 degrees East
> . Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
> at 9 kilometres per hour
> . Wind gusts near centre... 320 kilometres per hour
> . Intensity................ CATEGORY 5
> . Central pressure......... 925 hectopascals
>
> REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
> areas betwe
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046
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 23:30:12 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Society Names etc...
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Perhaps we could have the: SSTRT - "Severe Storms Tactical Response Team"?
or...The SS - "Storm Squad" or how 'bout: "The Thunder Busters"? Some more
possibilities... The "Lightning Arresters" The CGC - "Cloud to Ground
Cops", "Cumulonimbus Conquerers"...Maybe even the "Wall Cloud Warriors"?
Hmmm..."Operation Aussie Storm"?
- Paul G.
----------------------------
Paul Graham
m3052695 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au
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Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 20:34:25 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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I only have one word to describe this - it's 4 letters and unsuitable to
say...
IDW50D21
TOP PRIORITY
TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 16
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) Tuesday 8/12/1998.
A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau in Western Australia, including
Darwin.
A CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island in Western Australia.
At 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST) SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma was centred
about 175 kilometres west northwest of Darwin and 145 kilometres west
of Snake Bay.
The cyclone is now moving southwest at 9 kilometres per hour
parallel to the coast. The very destructive core of the cyclone is
just offshore of the western end of Bathurst Island. The outer edge
of the cyclone is currently affecting Darwin. The cyclone is expected
to move towards the NE Kimberley coast in the next 24-48 hours.
VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 200 kilometres per hour are
being experienced over the western Tiwi Islands and should ease
slowly after about 6 to 12 hours, with gales easing in 24 to 36
hours.
GALES with gusts to 110 kilometres per hour are being experienced
near Darwin and are expected to persist for about 24 hours.
GALES will extend southwards to Port Keats tonight and further west
to the Kimberley Coast during tomorrow.
DESTRUCTIVE wind gusts are no longer expected to affect Darwin unless
the cyclone takes a more southward track.
HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause significant stream rises that may lead
to widespread flooding over the northwest Top End tonight, extending
to the north Kimberley late tomorrow.
DANGEROUS HIGH TIDES could cause WIDESPREAD FLOODING over the north
coast of the Tiwi Islands in the next 6 hours and also over the north
Kimberley coast tomorrow night.
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8 pm CST (6.30 pm WST):
. Location of centre....... within 15 kilometres of
11.6 degrees South 129.4 degrees East
. Recent movement.......... towards the southwest
at 9 kilometres per hour
. Wind gusts near centre... 320 kilometres per hour
. Intensity................ CATEGORY 5
. Central pressure......... 925 hectopascals
REPEATING: A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Cape Don and Mitchell Plateau, including Darwin. A
CYCLONE WATCH extends west to Cockatoo Island.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 11 pm CST (9.30 pm WST).
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