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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 3rd January 1999

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001 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Re: TV Weather Channel
002 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Brisbane wx
003 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Web Photos
004 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Web Photos
005 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Re: Wycheproof
006 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Chase Report
007 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Web Photos
008 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobwe  Activity East of Adelaide
009 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Web Photos
010 "Andrew Treloar" [pileus at hotmail.com]          media & weather
011 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              media & weather
012 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              media & weather
013 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Re cloud types
014 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Re cloud types
015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Web Photos
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Chase Report
017 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Re: TV Weather Channel
018 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Attn Nandina M
019 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Meteorological Software
020 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   media & weather
021 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Large US storm
022 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]        Wind damage near Canberra...
023 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Large US storm
024 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Wind damage near Canberra...
025 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Re cloud types
026 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]       Re: TV Weather Channel
027 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]       Re: TV Weather Channel
028 disarm at braenet.com.au                          sydney
029 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          sydney
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   sydney
031 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   sydney
032 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             sydney
033 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          sydney
034 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            sydney
035 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Kempsey Storm
036 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Katoomba Storm
037 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Katoomba Storm
038 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Sydney Wx
039 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Kempsey Storm
040 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Kempsey Storm
041 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Attn Nandina M
042 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au  Chase Report (Photo Questions)
043 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Re: Wycheproof
044 Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]              GRADS
045 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       obs 03/01/1999 NSW
046 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             hello
047 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             edia&weather
048 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Storm over Hill End/Mudgee way
049 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        GRADS
050 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storm over Hill End/Mudgee way
051 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Mudgee Storm
052 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm over Hill End/Mudgee way
053 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Atypical Storms

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001

Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 06:46:30 +1100 (EST)
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Re: TV Weather Channel
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Susan From Balmain

Hi all. Just woke up to catch the tail end of an interview on 2BL
regarding a rural weather service on TV - apparently it is updated every
few minutes with satellite pix and reporters giving predictions on weather
and good stuff like that.

Also mentioned that the service would only be covering rural NSW and would
track storms and their formations.  The plans are to extend it to cover
Metro areas within some time frame that I missed out on.

Anyone got any further info on this and where I find the channel?

Susan

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:33:52 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Brisbane wx
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Ben, Jimmy here

I am working on using the Grads program to get as many of the variables
working as possible. You work on it and we will report on what have been
able to achieve.

The most important thing is we need someone with a fast internet access to
download 20mb files very quickly. We can then get more real time forecasts
of Cape and so on. You can do SkewT diagrams on Grads. I may be bale to
work on that today. I'd say being mathematically oriented is important in
knowing how to use Grads.

Jimmy

At 11:59 AM 1/2/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Ben from Brisbane here
>
>Some nice totals over the last few days, had 55mm on thursday,
>28mm to 3pm yesterday and 11mm in the guage at 9am thirmorning.
>Another 10mm or so in the guage now and still raining, bringing a
>total so far of 104mm in 56 hours, very nice indeed.
>
>Some good falls in the Marranoa and Warrego overnight (and to 9am
>yesterday as well) with  KAROOLA PARK 41  ROMA 46  SURAT 46
>GARRABARRA 58  being some of the highest, and most other falls
>around an inch. Also widespread moderate/heavy falls over the Darling downs
>, Some very very happy farmers in these districts i bet.
>
>Around the greater Brisbane   MT MEE 37  MORAYFIELD 46
>NAMBOUR 62 and with the upper level trough moving closer, i think
>we can expect some good falls around thisafternoon
>and tonight (steady moderate rain here since 10am).
>
>On another note, has anyone had any experience with the GRADS program?
>I'm hoping to be able to throw some formula's at it, and maybe get some CAPE
>forecasts out of it, if i can get it to work.

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:42:45 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Web Photos
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Most probably, the screen resolution 65k will make that different. If you
have a 24bit scanner and you are showing your photo at 16 bit resolution,
you will get those shady lines. Try going to desktop and change your
resultion. Sometimes you can set the screen size to 640 x 480 and get 24
bit. Second, you may be able to get more video RAM to get better resolution
for that video card. But check that out first.

Jimmy

At 11:33 PM 1/1/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Hi every1,
>
>While updating my web page it occurred to me that some of my photos 
>looked a bit "graded" i.e. you could see the changes in tones as faint 
>lines.
>Is this a result of
>   (a) too little resolution in scanning?
>   (b) too high a resolution (I use 150 - 160 dpi)?
>   (c) my monitor only being capable of thousands of colours?
>   (d) using JPEG instead of JIF files (BTW, what are the advantages or 
>disadvantages of each)?
>   (e) all of the above or some other?
>
>Yours,
>Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 08:16:17 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Web Photos
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Just remember, we use jpg on our Australian Severe Weather site. Be careful
of the ratio. We use the ratio 4:4:4. On Corel photo paint, we use 24 on
the scale quality factor. I hope this helps. The most probable problem is
the screen resolution based on the video card

Jimmy

At 11:01 PM 1/2/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
>>   (b) too high a resolution (I use 150 - 160 dpi)?
>
>That resolution is fine, any more is just wasted as the monitor even at 1024
>x 768 does not have the display quality to warrant higher DPI.
>
>>   (c) my monitor only being capable of thousands of colours?
>
>No problem here either !
>
>>   (d) using JPEG instead of JIF files (BTW, what are the advantages or
>>disadvantages of each)?
>
>
>This is the potential area, JPG files are compressed, most software will let
>you nominate to what degree of compression you want. I use a program that
>lets you preview the JPG, experimenting with different compression ratios
>before saving the file. Depending on the colours some pictures compress
>really well, such as simple cloud photos, but others such as colourful
>landscapes are not as economic in compression. I personally tend to compress
>quite high and get the large pics down to 20-40kb, this means quick loading,
>but the price is quality. The banding you refer to occurs as you take the
>compression ratio higher and higher.
>
>JIF ? I you mean GIF files, these are OK for non-photo graphics such as
>maps, buttons and banners as GIF files are limted to 256 colours, they do
>not suit photos because of the 256 colours, and even then tend to larger
>then their JPG equivalent.
>
>
>Michael

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Wycheproof
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:27:21 PST
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Hi Nandina,
Just checked my mail so I hope this isn't too late...

Wycheproof is an aboriginal word meaning "grass on the hill" I believe. 
There are a number of alternate meanings I've seen but all relate to Mt. 
Wycheproof, which is only 43 m. above the surrounding plain and at one 
time had the distinction of being the world's smallest registered 
mountain. (What THAT means I don't know!)

Currently (9.30 a.m. Sunday) it's about 28 C and looks like getting hot 
again. No cool change for us!

Cheers,
Kevin.


 In the meantime, Kevin, if you are reading this, my Sou=
>therly windchange has swung a bit east - oscillates bewtween 90 and 150 
=
>degrees.  Outside temperature several degrees cooler than inside 31.  
But=
> I don't tnink it will reach Wycheproof.  By the way, do you have the 
ori=
>gin of that interesting name?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Nandina
>nandina at alphalink.com.au

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:26:08 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Chase Report
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Hi Everyone,

Jimmy here. Although conditions weren't favourable for severe thunderstorms
development, David and I went down to Canberra in the hope of seeing some
spectacular storms. The Lifted Index was showing less than -4 which
indicated a very good chance of thunderstorms developing.

As we headed down the freeway, we could see cumulus, some developing into
thunderstorms by mid-late morning. We got to Canberra and met Patrick. He
showed us to a good lookout near Canberra. From here we could see
thunderstorms with heavy precipitation but not very strong. We waited
several hours but nothing developed. We thought this was tey another bust,
something told me that on the other side of the storms were more active
thunderstorms as some of the anvils further SE were stronger. Well have a
look at the following...

http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199901020538.html

It may take a little to load (1.1mb) but worthwhile as that is where the
storms were. It seems that mtns and road networks are always in the way of
good chasing. Some of the good things about this chase is we discovered
very good clear chasing country north of Canberra on the way to Braidwood.
Second, we had the opportunity of meeting a fine storm chaser Patrick
Tobin. I thank him for being our host and taking the time to stay with us
all day. Pity the storms weren't on this side but nevertheless, we did get
some spectacular sites.

Oh well, back to the drawing boards.

Jimmy

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:39:52 PST
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Thanx Michael,
I think you've solved the problem!
I checked the settings on the scanner I use (Apple Color OneScanner) and 
its default JPEG compression is 90%! (I never actually knew what this 
did but it made small files though so I was reasonably happy); what 
compression would you suggest to get a reasonable degree of clarity?

Cheers,
Kevin from (hot again!) Wycheproof.


>
>>   (d) using JPEG instead of JIF files (BTW, what are the advantages 
or
>>disadvantages of each)?
>
>
>This is the potential area, JPG files are compressed, most software 
will let
>you nominate to what degree of compression you want. I use a program 
that
>lets you preview the JPG, experimenting with different compression 
ratios
>before saving the file.
>
>Michael

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From: Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Activity East of Adelaide
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>There's a line of cumulus (Cu) cloud 15-20 km east/north east
>of Adelaide CBD, to the east of Birdwood and around or very
>near the Mannum / Murray Bridge areas. I am using an World
>Aeronautical Chart for Adelaide to plot approximate positions.
>
>There are a couple of cumulonimbus (Cb) with anvil tops and
>several dozen lenticular (standing wave) clouds. (This activity
>is on the eastern side of the Adelaide Hills/Mount Lofty Ranges.

I saw them too Duane.  Pretty.  With a surface trough out to the east the
eastern sides of the Mt Lofty Ranges must be a prime place to go for a
chase from Adelaide.

Looks like weak south easterlies tomorrow, which will presumably push the
development back north, but with the return of the northerlies on Monday,
and rising temps and (hopefully) humidity, i might be persuaded to park
myself on top of Mt Barker and see what develops.......

Phil

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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:52:33 PST
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Hi Jimmy,
Thanx for the reply.
I'm not sure I follow all the stuff you mention - it sounds like you're 
using IBM and I'm Mac. Macs as I understand them have no RAM upgradeable 
video cards and only newer models have any VRAM. I'm scanning at 32 bit 
and displaying at 24 bit (I think - Macs show screen resolutions in 
rather vague terms such as "millions of colors", "thousands of colours", 
"256 colours" etc.) but I've had trouble trying to save JPG images at 
less than "millions of colours" level, for some reason.
Oh, well, tinker away...:)

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.



>Most probably, the screen resolution 65k will make that different. If 
you
>have a 24bit scanner and you are showing your photo at 16 bit 
resolution,
>you will get those shady lines. Try going to desktop and change your
>resultion. Sometimes you can set the screen size to 640 x 480 and get 
24
>bit. Second, you may be able to get more video RAM to get better 
resolution
>for that video card. But check that out first.
>
>Jimmy

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From: "Andrew Treloar" [pileus at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: media & weather
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 15:39:00 PST
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John,

Thanks for the clarification. Severe Thunderstorm Warnings are issued 
for the Greater Sydney area wheras Advices are issued for the whole 
State. In NSW, our Advices are essentially the same format as our Sydney 
warnings, but do not generally refer to individual storm cells. On the 
day in question, there were many cells on the radar, many of them 
potentially severe. 

Andrew

>From: "John  Graham" 
>
>Hi Andrew,
>
>Thanx for the comments but i don't think I'm confused (most people 
think I'm
>nuts, but thats another story...) I thought an advice is given when 
severe
>storms could develop in the arvo......what I'm saying is that there's 
no
>warnings given when severe storms are threatening towns etc.
>I know it must be hard for you guys but we need something .....even if 
we
>get only 5 mins warning(you'd be surprised what you can do in 5 mins!). 
When
>I was a kid in Sydney, chn 10 used to put out warnings for severe 
storms. I
>can remember one night they put a warning out for storm that was in 
western
>Sydney & kept doing so until it went out to sea at Wollongong.
>.So if we could have advices when storms could form & warnings to
>communities in the path of severe storms that would be fantastic!
>I hope this clears up any confusion.....not create any more!!!!!!
>Happy New Year
>John

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: media & weather
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:56:14 +1100
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Morning all. Howdy Andrew. Maybe thats what the BOM needs to do. Refer to
individual cells. Makes it a little more "localised" for those on warning
messages seeing that advices cover such large areas.

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: media & weather
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:02:01 +1100
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Much like the QLD BOM do, they refer to cells that are seen on radar and
their location.


-----Original Message-----
>From: paulmoss 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 10:58 AM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: media & weather
>
>
>Morning all. Howdy Andrew. Maybe thats what the BOM needs to do. Refer to
>individual cells. Makes it a little more "localised" for those on warning
>messages seeing that advices cover such large areas.

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Re cloud types
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 01:15:26 +1100
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Attn. Susan P.

Hi there,

If you have a good TAFE college or Uni. near, you can usually obtain public
access to one of these. At Orange we have a very good TAFE and the Orange
Ag. College which is a branch of the Uni. of Sydney. I have public access to
both and both have a good range of Meteorology books with some especially
for pilots.

Another boring day in Orange with scattered cirro Cu. 24C, 1019hPa, 40%
We have had an increase in the NE breeze, gusting to 3 knots today.

Terry

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re cloud types
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:18:12 +1100
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Current obs here are: 30c, humidity of 70%, baro 1016 & dropping
light breeze scattered fat cumulus

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Web Photos
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:22:30 +1100
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Different programs measure compression in different ways, mine uses a ratio,
a freshly scanned photo is 1:1, I tend to get 20:1 to 25:1 before quality
starts to degrade too much. For example a pic compressed at 24:1 may get a
25kb file that is still reasonable to look at, wind the compression to 50:1
and the file is now 11kb, but banded.

Some programs talk in %, but this is also confusing some say 25%
compression, but others will mean 25% quality which is like 75% compression.

Get your hands on a decent graphics program that allows you to preview with
different ratios before saving. At a guess if you pics are 640 x 480 and you
are getting files of 25 -40kb the compression ratio is just about right
 20:1 to 25:1 ). If your files are mostly smaller than 20kb, it is obvious
that the compression is too high.

Michael

For example the one I use talks
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Phyland 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 9:40
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Web Photos
>
>
>Thanx Michael,
>I think you've solved the problem!
>I checked the settings on the scanner I use (Apple Color OneScanner) and
>its default JPEG compression is 90%! (I never actually knew what this
>did but it made small files though so I was reasonably happy); what
>compression would you suggest to get a reasonable degree of clarity?
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin from (hot again!) Wycheproof.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase Report
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:12:32 +1100
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Thr granite rock plateau around Braidwood is indeed excellent chase country,
you can go south to Captains Flat, only the last 10-20kms does the view get
comprimised by hills. From Briadwood you can also head back to Bungendore,
then north to Tarago, there is some good chase country here, although only 1
decent road. East of Braidwood you enter Clyde Mountain and all the typical
problems of trying to chase in mountains and 100ft high forests.

Michael


>very good clear chasing country north of Canberra on the way to Braidwood.
>Second, we had the opportunity of meeting a fine storm chaser Patrick
>Tobin. I thank him for being our host and taking the time to stay with us

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: TV Weather Channel
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:05:27 +1100
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Hi Susan

I have just watched this for the first time last night after returning from
camping, it cycles between Satellite and Radar pics, plus current and
forecast weather, charts and last 24 hour rainfall.

>From midday to 8pm there is a presenter as well, he explains the latest sat
pics and radar. For instance yesterday at approx 7pm he was drawing
attention to an interesting storm cluster near East Gippsland and suggested
that hail may even occur.

It will be a good channel, the Sat pics seemed up to date. The radar is
interesting too, outside storm season I may consider just relying on this.
One point about radar, the TV resolution means that it gives a rough guide
and the radar I have seen so far is all broad scale, no local or loops ( yet
? ).

I get it on Austar, but I believe Foxtel carries it also.


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>From: Susan Puddifer 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 6:47
>Subject: aussie-weather: Re: TV Weather Channel
>
>
>
>Susan From Balmain
>
>Hi all. Just woke up to catch the tail end of an interview on 2BL
>regarding a rural weather service on TV - apparently it is updated every
>few minutes with satellite pix and reporters giving predictions on weather
>and good stuff like that.
>
>Also mentioned that the service would only be covering rural NSW and would
>track storms and their formations.  The plans are to extend it to cover
>Metro areas within some time frame that I missed out on.
>
>Anyone got any further info on this and where I find the channel?
>
>Susan

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Attn Nandina M
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:25:25 +1100
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Attn. Nandina M

Hi there,

Sorry MASS EMBARRASSMENT here. When I sent the last massage I had the wrong
name on brain syndrome. Sorry Susan P. and Nandina M.

If you have a good TAFE college or Uni. near, you can usually obtain public
access to one of these. At Orange we have a very good TAFE and the Orange
Ag. College which is a branch of the Uni. of Sydney. I have public access to
both and both have a good range of Meteorology books with some especially
for pilots.

Another boring day in Orange with scattered cirro Cu. 24C, 1019hPa, 40%
We have had an increase in the NE breeze, gusting to 3 knots today.

Terry.

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Hi every1,

For those of a mathematical and/or programming bent the following site 
is about as comprehensive a place to download met. software (including 
GRADS stuff, Jimmy) as I've found.

http://205.156.54.206/im/software.htm

Unfortunately for we Mac users, most of it's for IBM's running DOS, 
Windoze, UNIX or OS/2. :(

Happy downloading. If anyone finds anything REALLY neat, please let me 
know.

Kevin from Wycheproof.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:33:20 +1100
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I will enter this debate now ( have been away ). I am really sceptical about
the individual cell format as cells keep decaying, forming, development may
push at right angles to a main cell in response to outflow. A large
supercell may split into two, a right mover and left, etc.

Whilst you and I know all this, the general public already believes
thunderstorms have a mind of their own, like how many $$$ richer would you
be if you got a dollar for each  comment like " the thunderstorm went over
us, did a full circle around the edge of town and came back and hit us again
" that you heard.

Only as recently as my last camping break on the 1st Jan, I was watching two
small cells over the Turon River, one went up just north and drifted
slightly west, another went up to the SW, both spread towards to west centre
filling it . But a fellow camper described the situation purely on where he
heard thunder from " that storm has done a semi circle right around us ".

Michael


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>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 10:54
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: media & weather
>
>
>Morning all. Howdy Andrew. Maybe thats what the BOM needs to do. Refer to
>individual cells. Makes it a little more "localised" for those on warning
>messages seeing that advices cover such large areas.

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Large US storm
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:45:53 +1100
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Hi All,

Just reading a story on CNN news about a very large cold snap in the Mid
West of USA on Saturday. Close Chicago airport and many roads. People were
being told to stay inside there houses. Buggered up there holiday.

Those interested have a look on http//:cnn.com/us

Terry

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:58:02 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
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Hi Michael + everyone,
	If you take the King's Hwy to Bungedore and then follow the road
to Braidwood, there is a Pine plantation along side the road that has been
flattened.  I haven't been down there for a few years now but I heard that
it was caused by a tornado.  From what I remember of it, the trees seemed
to have fallen in the same direction so it looks like a microburst may
have been responsible.  But they also seemed to converge slightly so
perhaps it is consistent with tornado damage. 
	- Paul G.
----------------------------
Paul Graham
paul at marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au
----------------------------

On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Michael Thompson wrote:

> Thr granite rock plateau around Braidwood is indeed excellent chase country,
> you can go south to Captains Flat, only the last 10-20kms does the view get
> comprimised by hills. From Briadwood you can also head back to Bungendore,
> then north to Tarago, there is some good chase country here, although only 1
> decent road. East of Braidwood you enter Clyde Mountain and all the typical
> problems of trying to chase in mountains and 100ft high forests.
> 
> Michael

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 10:57:39 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

They've been having a bit of everything, hail and tornadoes too!  Only
in the southern states (IE Texas, Alabama, Georgia etc) well, I know
that they've had tornado watches/warnings issued for them.  One of the
Texas storms had a max dbz reflectivity of 70dbz!!!  Quite nasty!

Anthony

Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just reading a story on CNN news about a very large cold snap in the Mid
> West of USA on Saturday. Close Chicago airport and many roads. People were
> being told to stay inside there houses. Buggered up there holiday.
> 
> Those interested have a look on http//:cnn.com/us
> 
> Terry

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We went down to there yesterday, but I thought it wasn't in that area. I
can say it is good chasing country.

jimmy

At 11:58 AM 1/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Michael + everyone,
>	If you take the King's Hwy to Bungedore and then follow the road
>to Braidwood, there is a Pine plantation along side the road that has been
>flattened.  I haven't been down there for a few years now but I heard that
>it was caused by a tornado.  From what I remember of it, the trees seemed
>to have fallen in the same direction so it looks like a microburst may
>have been responsible.  But they also seemed to converge slightly so
>perhaps it is consistent with tornado damage. 
>	- Paul G.

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:38:58 +1100 (EST)
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
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Hi Terry

Thanks for the info, but very difficult for me to access TAFE due to
ridiculous hours worked at a job which I do 6 days a week

So I'm stuck with buying stuff or finding stuff on the net.

SusanP


On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Terry Bishop wrote:

> Attn. Susan P.
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> If you have a good TAFE college or Uni. near, you can usually obtain public
> access to one of these. At Orange we have a very good TAFE and the Orange
> Ag. College which is a branch of the Uni. of Sydney. I have public access to
> both and both have a good range of Meteorology books with some especially
> for pilots.
> 
> Another boring day in Orange with scattered cirro Cu. 24C, 1019hPa, 40%
> We have had an increase in the NE breeze, gusting to 3 knots today.
> 
> Terry

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From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:12:36 +1100
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Susan

The channel is available on the Austar pay TV network and is available
throughout regional Australian. That is, everywhere except the 5 largest
metro's.
Mark

-----Original Message-----
>From: Susan Puddifer 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 6:49
>Subject: aussie-weather: Re: TV Weather Channel
>
>
>
>Susan From Balmain
>
>Hi all. Just woke up to catch the tail end of an interview on 2BL
>regarding a rural weather service on TV - apparently it is updated every
>few minutes with satellite pix and reporters giving predictions on weather
>and good stuff like that.
>
>Also mentioned that the service would only be covering rural NSW and would
>track storms and their formations.  The plans are to extend it to cover
>Metro areas within some time frame that I missed out on.
>
>Anyone got any further info on this and where I find the channel?
>
>Susan

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 12:10:52 +1100
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Michael

The channel, Weather 21, is only available on Austar. Foxtel are staying
with their current weather channel. Live weather presentations will commence
at 6am on weekdays and midday as you saw on weekends. We will implement
radar loops and satellite loops fairly soon once we get the format bedded
down.
We are very hopeful the channel will appeal to both weather enthusiasts and
the average viewer alike. Incidentally, we are talking with the BoM to
improve the quality of the radar images. As you saw, the WEB radar images
come up pretty poorly on TV.

regards, Mark
__________________________
The Weather Company
mhardy at theweather.com.au
__________________________
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>From: Michael Thompson 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 11:23
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: TV Weather Channel
>
>
>Hi Susan
>
>I have just watched this for the first time last night after returning from
>camping, it cycles between Satellite and Radar pics, plus current and
>forecast weather, charts and last 24 hour rainfall.
>
>>From midday to 8pm there is a presenter as well, he explains the latest
sat
>pics and radar. For instance yesterday at approx 7pm he was drawing
>attention to an interesting storm cluster near East Gippsland and suggested
>that hail may even occur.
>
>It will be a good channel, the Sat pics seemed up to date. The radar is
>interesting too, outside storm season I may consider just relying on this.
>One point about radar, the TV resolution means that it gives a rough guide
>and the radar I have seen so far is all broad scale, no local or loops
 yet
>? ).
>
>I get it on Austar, but I believe Foxtel carries it also.

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can smoeone give me an update on the wx in sydney? i can see large TCU all
over the place over the mountains, but my view north/south is real bad.. at
present it looks like it could really be promising,
Matt S 

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These TCU should stay on the mtns but may eclipse the western Sydney area
near Richmond but I doubt it. Will see what happens.

Jimmy

At 02:36 PM 1/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>can smoeone give me an update on the wx in sydney? i can see large TCU all
>over the place over the mountains, but my view north/south is real bad.. at
>present it looks like it could really be promising,
>Matt S 

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Hi Matt

Here in Wollongong the view west and north west has moderate congestus,
looks promising for an isolated shower later in the day near Picton, must
admit however the weak towers have been bouncing up and down rapidly, no
real staying power. One tower did briefly glaciate.

Will wash to car and watch the west, first sign of development and I will be
off to Picton.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
>From: disarm at braenet.com.au 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 14:28
>Subject: aussie-weather: sydney
>
>
>can smoeone give me an update on the wx in sydney? i can see large TCU all
>over the place over the mountains, but my view north/south is real bad.. at
>present it looks like it could really be promising,
>Matt S

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Radar indicates a small storm cell just SW of Katoomba ( 14.41pm ).

Michael


>can smoeone give me an update on the wx in sydney? i can see large TCU all
>over the place over the mountains, but my view north/south is real bad.. at
>present it looks like it could really be promising,
>Matt S

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Yep there is, the development there is directly to my west, and i think
there might be something behind it, i cant be sure though, just went out
and took a few shots, hope it goes somewhere, 
Matt.s

>Radar indicates a small storm cell just SW of Katoomba ( 14.41pm ).
>
>Michael

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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 14:42:01 +1100, "Michael Thompson"
 wrote:

>Radar indicates a small storm cell just SW of Katoomba ( 14.41pm ).
>
I was in Megalong Valley at that time, and am now (15.15) back at
Blackheath. Nothing to get excited about. Some rumbles of thunder, but
all TCu quite narrow and high based. Radar 10 mins ago showed the cell
as weakening and moving NNE, which coincides with my observation of
it. Nothing else at all on radar, though I think a few more will
develop during the afternoon as it's very warm and humid on the
Mountains.

-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Very nice now

CU cloud to the south west with nice formation,

It looks very nice
******************************************
Grant Boyden

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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Kempsey Storm
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:42:14 +1100
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Hi Everyone,
  
Paul Mossman just called me from Macksville to say that he sighted an
impressive looking storm cell near Kempsey. Could anyone be able to
verify the intensity of this storm on radar please so I can get back
to him about it. He also said that it appeared to have a backsheared anvil.
  
Matthew Piper

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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:49:56 +1100
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Hi Everyone,
  
The storm that was near Katoomba looks like it has died now as I can
only see the anvil left. No other promising clouds unfortunately. Looks
like thats all were going to get today.
  
Matthew Piper

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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Yes Matthew
I was just about to go take a picture of it as it looked like a text book
CU and then it was gone.
******************************************
Grant Boyden

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>From: Matthew Piper 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aussie-weather: Katoomba Storm
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 15:49
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>The storm that was near Katoomba looks like it has died now as I can only
>see the anvil left. No other promising clouds unfortunately. Looks like
>thats all were going to get today.
>
>Matthew Piper

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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Another cell spotted around the same area.
S/W of Katoomba
Any other confirmations.
******************************************
Grant Boyden

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Kempsey Storm
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Just SW of Kempsey, not significant on radar, some yellow reflect
( 10-20mm / hr ). 
  
Some showers through the ACT at present, another just west of Lithgow.
As Laurier mentioned earlier storm has decayed.
  
Michael
 -----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Piper 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 15:42
>Subject: aussie-weather: Kempsey Storm
>
> Hi Everyone,
>  
> Paul Mossman just called me from Macksville to say that he sighted an
> impressive looking storm cell near Kempsey. Could anyone be able to verify
> the intensity of this storm on radar please so I can get back to him about
> it. He also said that it appeared to have a backsheared anvil.
>  
> Matthew Piper

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Any sign of the cell southw est of sydney.

It look sto be building Michael
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Terry,

What a great idea.  Thank you so much.  I'm sure Susan will understand
your most unfortunately muddled brain.  It seems to happen a lot around
this time of the year:-)

I will certainly check out your TAFE suggestion.

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

----------
> Attn. Nandina M
>
> Hi there,
>
> Sorry MASS EMBARRASSMENT here. When I sent the last massage I had the wrong
> name on brain syndrome. Sorry Susan P. and Nandina M.
>
> If you have a good TAFE college or Uni. near, you can usually obtain public
> access to one of these. At Orange we have a very good TAFE and the Orange
> Ag. College which is a branch of the Uni. of Sydney. I have public access to
> both and both have a good range of Meteorology books with some especially
> for pilots.
>
> Another boring day in Orange with scattered cirro Cu. 24C, 1019hPa, 40%
> We have had an increase in the NE breeze, gusting to 3 knots today.
>
> Terry.

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:19:24 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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G'Day Jimmy and All,

The photo was quite interesting and I have few questions.

1)     What type of photograph it is? (Infrared? Radar?)

2)     Is the "lband" in the URL a frequency range?

3)     Is the brightness (very white colour) of the cloud in the
        lower right side of the photo an indication of temperature,
        moisture, or something else, etc.?

Cheers,

Duane Van Schoonhoven
Paracombe, SA
Australia

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> ...Snip... have a look at the following...
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/199901020538.html
> It may take a little to load (1.1mb) but worthwhile as that is where the
> storms were. ...Snip...

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: Wycheproof
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 99 17:04:52 PST
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Kevin,

Thanks for that information.  Hope you didn't mind me asking.  My zephyr of
last evening settled into a lovely southerly by this morning, and we have had
a rather more comfortable day in the SE suburbs of Melbourne.  And I think
THAT must mean you have a rather interesting talking point, if nothing else :-)

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au
----------
> Hi Nandina,
> Just checked my mail so I hope this isn't too late...
>
> Wycheproof is an aboriginal word meaning "grass on the hill" I believe.
> There are a number of alternate meanings I've seen but all relate to Mt.
> Wycheproof, which is only 43 m. above the surrounding plain and at one 
> time had the distinction of being the world's smallest registered
> mountain. (What THAT means I don't know!)
>
> Currently (9.30 a.m. Sunday) it's about 28 C and looks like getting hot
> again. No cool change for us!
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin.

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:58:40 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Ben, Jimmy here
>
> I am working on using the Grads program to get as many of the variables
> working as possible. You work on it and we will report on what have been
> able to achieve.
>
> The most important thing is we need someone with a fast internet access to
> download 20mb files very quickly. We can then get more real time forecasts
> of Cape and so on. You can do SkewT diagrams on Grads. I may be bale to
> work on that today. I'd say being mathematically oriented is important in
> knowing how to use Grads.
>
> Jimmy
>

Hey Jimmy

The thing is i havn't been able to get it to work, i downloaded a file (i have a
quick ISP too) and when i open it nothing happens ... the online documentation
realy dosn't help me much either .. maybe i downloaded the wrong file, have you
downloaded any yet? if so where did you get it from? I'd hate to think i
downloaded 20 megs for nothing :)

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 19:39:59 +1100
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Hi All,

Back in Sydney 4pm today after some fairly uneventful weather during my two
weeks away. Just catching up on 100 emails since Friday evening.

We left Armidale today just after 9am. Thick but breaking stratocumulus
soon gave way to large cumulus and partly cloudy conditions by Tamworth.
Cumulus became less frequent and smaller as we headed into Muswellbrook at
noon. After lunch (1pm) congestus started to pop up along the horizon from
W, SW and S. By 2pm and entering the forests south of Singleton on the
Putty road, it was apparent storm cells were building, particularly to the
west (near Mudgee I guess) and to the south (Lithgow area). Glimpses
through the forest along the trip to Windsor showed some nice cells. The
activity seemed to be very slow moving towards the north, but looking back
towards the Hunter showed a stronger cell spreading towards Muswellbrook !
Unfortunately we had to get back to Sydney. 

Hot and sunny in Sydney of course with the distant cells and congestus
persisting on the western side of the tablelands.

regards, Michael

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: hello
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:16:00 +1100
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G'Day from Ballina,

The sun has finally shown itself , after 3 days of on&off rain.
We've had 0.2mm today  so far, (17:10) we don't want anymore
now for a couple of weeks (except for a few good storms to come thru!)
Seee Ya's
John

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From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:27:21 +1100
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Hi Andrew,

Is the BoM going to start broadcasting severe storm warnings other than the
Greater Sydney area??????If so, when?? Now that the weather chn. is up &
running, do you think you guys can start issuing severe storm warnings in
conjunction with the  advices??
Let me know on what you think.........
See Ya's
John

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storm over Hill End/Mudgee way
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 14:43:50 +1100
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Hi All,

At the present moment conditions still similar to this morning. A nice
sunset in a clear W/SW sky.

There is a storm brewing over Mudgee/Hill End way. Very thick
dark Stratocumulus and Cumulonimbus on the NE horizon with frequent (10-15
stroke per min.) lightning. I cannot hear the thunder from here at the
moment. Will keep you posted if anything develops.

Terry

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Hi Ben,
I'm sure you know about this software site, but in case there are some 
other program-fiddlers out there, this site has some good stuff:

http://www.ugems.psu.edu/~owens/TEXTONLY/instrument.html

and for those with Macs,

ftp://info.dkrz.de/pub/visu/grads/dist/Mac/

this is GRADS for Macs, and this site

ftp://ftp.dkrz.de/pub/visu/grads/doc/gadoc151.ps.gz

is the documentation.

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.



>
>> Ben, Jimmy here
>>
>> I am working on using the Grads program to get as many of the 
variables
>> working as possible. You work on it and we will report on what have 
been
>> able to achieve.
>>
>> The most important thing is we need someone with a fast internet 
access to
>> download 20mb files very quickly. We can then get more real time 
forecasts
>> of Cape and so on. You can do SkewT diagrams on Grads. I may be bale 
to
>> work on that today. I'd say being mathematically oriented is 
important in
>> knowing how to use Grads.
>>
>> Jimmy
>>
>
>Hey Jimmy
>
>The thing is i havn't been able to get it to work, i downloaded a file 
(i have a
>quick ISP too) and when i open it nothing happens ... the online 
documentation
>realy dosn't help me much either .. maybe i downloaded the wrong file, 
have you
>downloaded any yet? if so where did you get it from? I'd hate to think 
i
>downloaded 20 megs for nothing :)

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Yes Terry, I can see it from here but not the lightning now. Has the storm
weakened or perhaps dissipated? I took some nice shots after the sun set
behind weak cumulonimbus above the horizon.

Jimmy

At 02:43 PM 1/3/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>At the present moment conditions still similar to this morning. A nice
>sunset in a clear W/SW sky.
>
>There is a storm brewing over Mudgee/Hill End way. Very thick
>dark Stratocumulus and Cumulonimbus on the NE horizon with frequent (10-15
>stroke per min.) lightning. I cannot hear the thunder from here at the
>moment. Will keep you posted if anything develops.
>
>Terry

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Mudgee Storm
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 21:38:07 +1100
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Jimmy,

The lighting does seemed to have stopped but the cloud is still around. The
cloud extends to about 15-20 k's NW of Orange to below the horizon. I could
see actual lightning strokes and also reflection from below horizon. The
baro here has only varied 2hPa all day, still about 1017-1018. Unless
something sudden and violent happen I can't see any action for Orange. (Boo
Hoo!!!)

Terry

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 22:18:02 +1100
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Of course there is a storm over Hill End, I have just left that area after 3
days camping on the Turon.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry Bishop 
>To: Aussie-weather 
>Date: Sunday, 3 January 1999 21:02
>Subject: aussie-weather: Storm over Hill End/Mudgee way
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>At the present moment conditions still similar to this morning. A nice
>sunset in a clear W/SW sky.
>
>There is a storm brewing over Mudgee/Hill End way. Very thick
>dark Stratocumulus and Cumulonimbus on the NE horizon with frequent (10-15
>stroke per min.) lightning. I cannot hear the thunder from here at the
>moment. Will keep you posted if anything develops.
>
>Terry

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:38:15 -0600
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
Organization: SKYWARN
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Take a look at this page for information on atypical storm types:

http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/swat/Cases/cases_pix.html

Sam Barricklow

Document: 990103.htm
Updated: 15th January, 1999

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