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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 6th January 1999

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001 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Re:NW Vic storms!
002 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Was Orange AWS
003 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]         thunder
004 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melbourne weather
005 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Melbourne weather
006 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Melbourne Storms
007 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Orange AWS
008 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Queensland ASWA Meeting
009 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Queensland ASWA Meeting
010 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Melbourne storms
011 Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au             ASWA Meeting
012 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Re: Yamba storms
013 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               Re: Yamba storms
014 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melb Storm Warning
015 Andrew Puddifer [andypudd at backmeup.net.au]     Melbourne weather
016 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  AWS Reliability & Stability
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melbourne
018 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Melbourne
019 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Hello Melbourne and everyone
020 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Media warnings......
021 "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net]           Melbourne weather
022 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Keeping the camera still...
023 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           METAR
024 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Weather 21
025 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Re:NW Vic
026 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          SA Warning + Canberra Obs
027 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melbourne - back to boring
028 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Melbourne Obs
029 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Severe storm warning
030 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]       METAR
031 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storms
032 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
033 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storms west of Sydney
034 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Damage: $60million Dec 16 storm
035 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sad Sydney situation
036 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Video in Cars
037 mildad [mildad at one.net.au]                     (no subject)
038 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Storms
039 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storms
040 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Re:METAR / Melbourne weather
041 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Storms PLEASE
042 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storms PLEASE
043 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     6 months of IRC Meetings
044 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Melbourne
045 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        NW Vic storms Part II
046 Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]               NW Vic storms Part II
047 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Lightning
048 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                ASWA Meeting

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re:NW Vic storms!
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 05:02:09 PST
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Go Soapy!

Did anything happen?
Nothing here, but it's still about 30 C (midnight).
Satpics show stuff to the west and NW, but I think it may have stalled.
Good luck and may the excitement run free, you lurker you...

Kevin.


>g'day all,
>
>I am in Bendigo right now and the cell u got is getting close!
>we have a SE breeze right now which may feed it some more.
>Currently 28C but I tell ya this much...
>There appears to be rotation up high in the anvil.
>Gotta turn my computer off now.
>
>Regards,
>Soapy (the lurker who quietly observes but has finally got excited).

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Was Orange AWS, now Tamworth AWS
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:04:25 GMT
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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:14:28 +1100 (EST), Blair Trewin
 wrote:

>Tamworth's a real pity - the site is a good one and the record has 
>a long history but the AWS is an absolute shocker, not sure why -
>I think we'd be lucky to have 50% of max/min temp obs since it went
>in in 1992.
>
Hi Blair

I think the rainfall record is even worse, and, of course, more
significant. One missed max/min ob doesn't materially affect the
averages, but a missed rain ob can be disastrous.  

I understood that the Bureau's AWS's were able, in the event of some
failures, to hang on to their records which could then be downloaded
when communications were restored, but my observation is that when an
AWS is down it is down, and lost data is lost. Do you know what the
situation is?

Cheers


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:23:49 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Hi all
        Its 1:10AM here in gembrook plenty of lightening to the NW/N/NE
NEARLY ALL CC lightening flashes nearly every 5-10 seconds but closer to
5. Little rain starting to fall at the present time, current temp 20Deg
baro 1016.4. As i write this the rain is getting really heavy now. juat
slight rumbles in the distance Bom has no thunder storm advice for the
current set of storms mainly 20-30 Kms North of me. rain is now easing .
Ill be away until Sunday from this morning ill catch up with everyone
then.
Its very hard to give wind direction and speed  readings where i live as
i have to contend with the swirling effect of the surrounding terain.
wind can come from all four directions in minutes.
Brian Gembrook Victoria.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:14:46 +1100
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Melbourne airport 2030Z 21005G07KT 9999 VCSH 3CU060 6AC130 20.5/18.8
Q1011.4 RMK RF00.2/001.4 CLD:SCT023 SCT044 BKN056 VIS:8000      TTF:NOSIG


At present there's an inversion which is keeping things a bit flat (Mt
Dandenong 24.7 deg, Melb airport 20.5 deg), but I heard the storm early this
morning also and saw a cg at 7am out towards the northern suburbs.

Looking quite promising for later in the day......

How many Melbournites will be active on the list today?? - sector reports
could be interesting in determining local storm movement, intensity etc!!  I
can get on the roof at work in Abbotsford and get a pretty good 360 degree
view if any interesting reports come in ....... and after Darwin - I'd love
to get a good shot or two of a storm. (um, keep in mind it's a tin roof )

BTW, has anyone come up with a practical, inexpensive way to mount a video
camera on the dash of a VR Commodore??  Videoing while driving is a bit
difficult at present!!

Jane
Melbourne

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 08:31:45 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
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Jane, you have true storm chasing qualities. Can't let the opportunity of a
good storm get away. I hope you are able to get out on storm chases.
Michael Thompson made a styrofoam mounting but the video just shook. It is
better to stop briefly and take footage that way or have someone with you
(trick them and say you won't go through it) and let them take footage. The
US chasers have made mountings but then again their roads are quite flat
and not as bumpy I suppose.

By the way, we in Sydney are receiving storm chaser counselling after yet
another bad season so far. Will see what happens around the weekend. I hope
there is a chase around Saturday after the meeting.

Jimmy

At 08:14 AM 1/6/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Melbourne airport 2030Z 21005G07KT 9999 VCSH 3CU060 6AC130 20.5/18.8
>Q1011.4 RMK RF00.2/001.4 CLD:SCT023 SCT044 BKN056 VIS:8000      TTF:NOSIG
>
>
>At present there's an inversion which is keeping things a bit flat (Mt
>Dandenong 24.7 deg, Melb airport 20.5 deg), but I heard the storm early this
>morning also and saw a cg at 7am out towards the northern suburbs.
>
>Looking quite promising for later in the day......
>
>How many Melbournites will be active on the list today?? - sector reports
>could be interesting in determining local storm movement, intensity etc!!  I
>can get on the roof at work in Abbotsford and get a pretty good 360 degree
>view if any interesting reports come in ....... and after Darwin - I'd love
>to get a good shot or two of a storm. (um, keep in mind it's a tin roof )
>
>BTW, has anyone come up with a practical, inexpensive way to mount a video
>camera on the dash of a VR Commodore??  Videoing while driving is a bit
>difficult at present!!
>
>Jane
>Melbourne

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Storms
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:31:06 +1100
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Quick report as i have to get to work. Lightning and thunder for most of
the night after Midnight quite active at times. Lots of sheet lightning
mostly to the North and North East of me. There were a few good CG's.
Thunder was intermittant. loudest around 4am about 3 seconds gap between
lightning and Thunder . Only 1.0mm of Rain in the guage this morning.
Currently there are a few showers around Temp is 21c Dew Pt 19c. Overnight
Min 19.5c. Good chance of more storms during the day. Dane-Kilsyth.

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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:47:32 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Blair....
The other porblem with the Tamworth AWS is that it has not reported
rainfall for a couple of months (almost) and despite comments, no one
seems to care !!!
Don White

Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> Laurier Williams wrote:
> > With both a manual and auto station at the airport, and this one in
> > town, Orange is quite well served for daily reporting stations. The
> > only other town that I can think of off the top of my head that's so
> > well served is Glen Innes, where the PO, Airport (AWS) and Ag Station
> > all report daily! By sad comparison, Tamworth has only one AWS which
> > routinely goes off the air with one parameter or another.
> >
> The AWS gives us a pretty good indication of how cold it can get in
> that area - it's been down into the -9s a few times since its
> installation. (The PO certainly didn't - it's the shelter next to
> the incinerator that I mentioned in an earlier thread).
> 
> Tamworth's a real pity - the site is a good one and the record has
> a long history but the AWS is an absolute shocker, not sure why -
> I think we'd be lucky to have 50% of max/min temp obs since it went
> in in 1992.
> 
> Blair Trewin

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 09:10:10 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

I've been talking to Paul Mossman, and I'd like to try and organise a
Queensland ASWA meeting.  We would discuss the following:

- thoughts on how and what ASWA should and could do in QLD
- possible setting up of chase partners (if people wish)
- electing the QLD member who will represent ASWA in the management
commitee
- talking about past thunderstorms, pictures, footage
- anything else that comes up on the agenda

If those people who are interested could contact me personally (not via
the list) on cyclone at stealth.com.au giving me their name and address (or
at least suburb) so that a central venue could try and be located.  If
anyone has any ideas or suggestions on a venue, details on that would
also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Anthony Cornelius from Brisbane

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Anthony, you may also want to ask if there are people with contacts that
can help with a venue. But great one Anthony, if someone gets things
rolling, then that's a start.

Jimmy


At 09:10 AM 1/6/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've been talking to Paul Mossman, and I'd like to try and organise a
>Queensland ASWA meeting.  We would discuss the following:
>
>- thoughts on how and what ASWA should and could do in QLD
>- possible setting up of chase partners (if people wish)
>- electing the QLD member who will represent ASWA in the management
>commitee
>- talking about past thunderstorms, pictures, footage
>- anything else that comes up on the agenda
>
>If those people who are interested could contact me personally (not via
>the list) on cyclone at stealth.com.au giving me their name and address (or
>at least suburb) so that a central venue could try and be located.  If
>anyone has any ideas or suggestions on a venue, details on that would
>also be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Anthony Cornelius from Brisbane

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne storms, and very high Adelaide temps
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I slept through most of the overnight action, but did see one flash
of lightning over the Heidelberg area while out running about 7.
A few showers about with big drops but small precip totals. Radar
suggests that most of the morning activity has now cleared east,
although I'd expect to see redevelopment in such a humid air mass (for
Melbourne).

(By the way, the dewpoints, around 18-19, are the highest in Melbourne
for a few years but nowhere near record territory - there was a 26,
which I'm a bit suspect of because of the lack of similar obs before
and after, in 1971, and what appears to be a genuine 24 on 24 January
1982).

Adelaide seems to be the hot spot at the moment - 37 at the Regional
Office and 39 at Parafield at 0930 CST. Overnight min 29.

Blair Trewin

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Ok people nows it your turns to take some action...get together, org some
meetings....lets get goin!

Remember anyone going to the Sydney meeting (please please make it if you
can..) email Jimmy or me with your rsvp. Thanx.

Paul Mossman
Secretary
ASWA

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:00:43 +1100 (EST)
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Yamba storms
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Susan from Balmain

Thought it might interest you to know that that superb photo of the Yamba
storm is now my wallpaper for my computer.

Hope you dont mind.

Susan

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hey all,
what foto is that? i don't think i've seen it!! could someone please post
the address?
thanx
steve

At 11:00 AM 1/6/99 +1100, you wrote:
>
>Susan from Balmain
>
>Thought it might interest you to know that that superb photo of the Yamba
>storm is now my wallpaper for my computer.
>
>Hope you dont mind.
>
>Susan

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melb Storm Warning
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:20:45 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

Thunderstorm Warning
Issued at 1049 on Wednesday the 6th of January 1999 for Wednesday

Thunderstorms are likely over the Metropolitan area today and tonight.

Yippee(just quietly)!
Current conditions across the Melbourne area
                                               Temp       DP       Dir
Spd       Press
(NW)  MELBOURNE AP             21.4        18.6    240        010       1014
(CBD) MELBOURNE CITY         22.1        17.8    240        007       1013
(SE)   FRANKSTON                  22.4        19.2    180        006
(SW)  PT WILSON                   19.6         17.2    160        008
(SE)   MOORABBIN                  23.2        18.5    180         007
1013
(SW)  LAVERTON                     21.3         17.9    210         010
1013
(E)     MT DANDENONG            20.3        17.7    260         007

Jane

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 11:26:09 +1100
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  Hi Jane,

 I'm not sure how you'd do it, but I think strapping the camera on to a
milk crate or something similar on the passenger's front seat may work
well. Just get the right angle with a bit of foam or something
underneath the camera. The seat would isolate the camera from most
vibrations and you could use the seatbelt to hold the crate in.
 Just a thought.

 Regards, Andrew Puddifer.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 11:47:16 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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The reliability and stability of AWS's, in fact any Automagic Basic
Observational Recording and Transmital Electronic Device (ABORTED) is
a matter that cannot be trivialised. It makes me wonder sometimes why
it is not possible to automagically flag offending devices and take
them out of service the instant they go ballistic. I suppose it is a
matter of AWS cost that prevents more sophistication in this regard
but it surely would be pragmatic to have registered human observers
trained to do the basic things like cleaning sensors, removing debris
blocking the rain guage or replace a wind vane that was broken by that
last F3 tornado. It is in the interest of both amateur and
professional weather people that these devices operate in a reliable
and stable manner.

One case to point happened about 3 Dec, 1997...

--- Included Text ---
Met Observations for Sydney and environs
Bureau of Meteorology, Sydney
Issued at 1215 on 03/12/1997.
----------------------------------------------------------------
CODE       STATION           CURRENT OBS (within last hour)
                                    Temp  Dew Pt   Wind    Press
                                   deg C  deg C   dir spd   hPa
                                                       kn
----------------------------------------------------------------
SYHB       WEDDING CAKE             18.8          160 017
OBSH       OBSERVATORY HILL         20.1   12.3   000 000   1018
YSSY       SYDNEY AIRPORT           20.1   11.8   140 017   1017
CBRC       CANTERBURY RACECOURSE    20.4   12.4   140 018
HOM        HOMEBUSH                 -7.4          220 017
YSBK       BANKSTOWN AIRPORT        21.7   10.8   130 018   1017
--- End Included Text ---

I got the BoM's attention by pumping off an Email to the BoM webmaster
entitled "Winter Olympics at Homebush?" Jokes aside, I got the
impression from the Email following a hint of BoM embarassment over
this since there seemed to be no action happening to rectify the
ballistic Homebush AWS. It was probably not a case of no action,
rather, a case of poor communication between different areas in the
BoM about what was happening to fix it. That is hardly surprising
since all organisations suffer to a degree from communications
problems.

But my case to point out is that the WWW brings technology that can
allow thousands of people to check the validity of the information
published. More eyes is better than one or none and more trained
brains looking at something as complex as weather can only help in the
long run to enhance our collective knowledge of the subject. So rather
than people getting upset when someone spots a problem with a
particular bit of information, this sort of feedback should be
actively sort, welcomed, filtered and acted upon. Ultimately, this
means opening up all communication channels and information sources.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:57:57 +1100
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The first TCu has gone up through Ac layer 9000 to the NE of the city quite
rapidly in the last 10 minutes with convection to the NW also starting to
happen.  DP's are starting to creep up as well ......  Here it goes guys!


Jane

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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:07:06 +1100
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Have fun Jane, we are envious here in Sydney
******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm
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IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

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> From: Jane ONeill 
> To: Aussie Weather 
> Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne
> Date: Wednesday, 6 January 1999 11:57
> 
> The first TCu has gone up through Ac layer 9000 to the NE of the city
quite
> rapidly in the last 10 minutes with convection to the NW also starting to
> happen.  DP's are starting to creep up as well ......  Here it goes guys!
> 
> 
> Jane

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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Hello Melbourne and everyone
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:06:42 +1100
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Hi All 

Andrew McDonald here.  I'm only in melbourne for a few hours today cause
i'm going back to my beachhouse down near lorne.  I've been camping and
holidaying since 29/12 and have seen great storms way out east on new
year's day and day after.  Yesterday had altocumulus castenallus in morning
down near lorne and by afternoon had two thunderstorms pass to the west
(near Anglesea) with mammatus and CG's.    Lots of static on the radio. 
Also had lightning until midnight last night.  Looking forward to the drive
back down there today (late).  Taking my camera down this time.  Bit hard
to take it camping (don't want to get it stolen).

Jane - how far NE.  I'm going for a look see now. 

Enjoy all the action everyone.  I'm going to be back by Monday I think and
then "I'm free to do what I want, chase what i want, any old time".

See Ya 

Andrew McDonald.

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Hi Again,

Just read this forcast for Melbourne today.  

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

Future Developments
Issued at 1130 on Wednesday the 6th of January 1999

Showers and local thunderstorms will affect most areas today with severe
wind
squalls, mainly during the afternoon and evening, as a low pressure trough
persists over the State.

....................................................

Severe wind squalls - one would hope that the BOM would issue a more
comprehensive warning than a thunderstorm warning.  No other warnings but a
thunderstorm warning.

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From: "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:26:39 +1100
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Jane,

With regard to mounting a camera in your car, you could try Revolution
Racegear on the Maroondah Hwy.  They have all sorts of goodies to that
nature (usually for race cars but I'm sure you could adapt something).

Leigh


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane ONeill 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Thursday, January 07, 1999 05:25
>Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
>
>
>
>Melbourne airport 2030Z 21005G07KT 9999 VCSH 3CU060 6AC130 20.5/18.8
>Q1011.4 RMK RF00.2/001.4 CLD:SCT023 SCT044 BKN056 VIS:8000      TTF:NOSIG
>
>
>At present there's an inversion which is keeping things a bit flat (Mt
>Dandenong 24.7 deg, Melb airport 20.5 deg), but I heard the storm early
this
>morning also and saw a cg at 7am out towards the northern suburbs.
>
>Looking quite promising for later in the day......
>
>How many Melbournites will be active on the list today?? - sector reports
>could be interesting in determining local storm movement, intensity etc!!
I
>can get on the roof at work in Abbotsford and get a pretty good 360 degree
>view if any interesting reports come in ....... and after Darwin - I'd love
>to get a good shot or two of a storm. (um, keep in mind it's a tin roof
)
>
>BTW, has anyone come up with a practical, inexpensive way to mount a video
>camera on the dash of a VR Commodore??  Videoing while driving is a bit
>difficult at present!!
>
>Jane
>Melbourne

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 12:32:44 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Andrew Puddifer wrote:
> 
>   Hi Jane,
> 
> I'm not sure how you'd do it, but I think strapping the camera on to a
> milk crate or something similar on the passenger's front seat may work
> well. Just get the right angle with a bit of foam or something
> underneath the camera. The seat would isolate the camera from most
> vibrations and you could use the seatbelt to hold the crate in.
> Just a thought.
> 

I've set up the following with great success;

1) Grab a mini-tripod.
2) Using lots of blue-tac or equivalent, fix mini-tripod to a flat
board. You can also butcher the tripod by using screws or bolts etc.
3) Attach board to two or more house bricks. The more the better.
4) Use more blue-tac or equivalent to bind bricks & board.
5) Mount contraption on thick, soft foam or equivalent (~100-200mm).
6) Surround contraption with soft foam or equivalent (~50-100mm).
7) Place whole in milk crate or box then fix to car seat.
8) You can also try suspending this mass from the ceiling but watch
out as it will want to go through any window or head within range.
9) Drive smoothly! No hard braking, cornering or accelleration.
10) Take photos/video using remote control or another operator.

What happens is that the mass obeys Newton's law concerning
conservation of momentum. It tends to want to stay with it's current
velocity and direction of motion. So the milk crate & car can vibrate
away and the mass with camera attached will try and stay on a smooth
course. The density and type of foam used is very important. It must
be soft but able to support the mass so you'll need much more
underneath than on the sides.

Modern video cameras also have various "steady-shot" arrangements,
some based on pixel sampling and others based on fluid damping. They
work well in good light conditions.

Professional versions of this cost thousands of dollars use special
damping hydraulic type fluids with active feedback from electronic
gyroscopes. The trouble with translating this to an amateur setup is
the cost of the gyros etc.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: METAR
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 12:36:12 +1100
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Anyone know what 'VCSH" means on METARs???  I gather it's a shower of
something, but I don't know what...

Jane ONeill

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Weather 21
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Hi All,

Just heard a great interview on the Weather 21 channel on the local regional
ABC radio program Country Hour. It sounds like they get all the raw data
from the BoM and make all their own forecasts and graphics.

 At present at Orange 28, 1022hPa, 26% W. Wind gusting to about 5 knots but
stopped at the moment.

  Terry.

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Hi every1,

Current weather in Wycheproof - hot and humid!
Very light northerly, temp. about 36 C. 4/8 Cu congestus. No real 
glaciation at this stage, but it 'feels' like we'll get some storms 
later.

Kevin.

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PRIORITY - FOR BROADCAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Bureau of Meteorology Adelaide
Issued at  1.25 pm on Wednesday, 06/01/99
For people in the West Coast, Eastern Eyre Peninsula, Lower Eyre
Peninsula and Northwest Pastoral districts.

Very heavy rain is possible with thunderstorms in the above districts
during this afternoon. There is also a slight risk of severe wind
gusts with the thunderstorms.

Localised flash flooding is possible and people are advised to take
precautions, such as to avoid driving through water of unknown depth.

===============================================

Current Canberra conditions are temp of 35.8, DP of 10.1. There is a 
good scattering of congestus and a strongly defined sea-breeze front to 
the east. I have also seen some anvil tops to the far south. There is 
the possibility of some interesting development here later on - I hopw.

Patrick

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne - back to boring
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:15:33 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYVICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
Severe Thunderstorm Advice
Issued at 1608 on Wednesday the 6th of January 1999 for the Gippsland
districts.
Isolated severe storms are possible over the Gippsland districts this
afternoonand evening. People in Gippsland are warned that these storms may
produce heavy rain with local flash flooding and
damaging wind.This advice should not be used after 10.00pm Wednesday 6th
January.


Melbourne at the moment has cooled of and things have become decidedly
unexciting - there aren't any storms forecast for us now - only out to the
east (damn)

Jane

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Obs
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Middle level cloud has inhibited convection for most of the day in the
Melbourne area but this has now mostly cleared. TCu and Cb to the NE very
distant and hard to make out through the haze. Temp city 23 dew pt 18. In
Kilsyth it is 28c dew pt 19c. Definate possibilty that something may
develop in the Melbourne area later today I hope. Dane 

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Severe storm warning
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> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> 
> Severe Thunderstorm Advice
> 
> Issued at 1608 on Wednesday the 6th of January 1999 for the Gippsland
> districts.
> 
> Isolated severe storms are possible over the Gippsland districts this
> afternoon
> and evening. 
> 
> People in Gippsland are warned that these storms may produce heavy rain
> with
> local flash flooding and damaging wind.
The sound of stable doors slamming shut reverberates across the net...

The storm in question (quite an impressive one, by the way, NW of
Bairnsdale and moving towards it) has been on the radar for at least
90 minutes.

Melbourne looks stone dead. The most recent forecast is suggesting
a lot of rain in southern Victoria Thursday/Friday. This certainly
could happen, but is by no means a certainty.

Blair Trewin

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From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:29:59 +1100
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Shower in the vicinity

Mark
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane ONeill 
>To: Aussie Weather 
>Date: Wednesday, 6 January 1999 12:38
>Subject: aussie-weather: METAR
>
>
>Anyone know what 'VCSH" means on METARs???  I gather it's a shower of
>something, but I don't know what...
>
>Jane ONeill

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There are storms on the mtns which have now developed reasonable anvils.
One to the WNW probably around Lithgow. Another down S-SW west of
Wollongong. Warning...warning... Storm chasers stay put otherwise storms
will dissipate. I will stay right here and observe. I am tempted to race
out but if they hear my torana, they........ will........ hide........
from............. me. Shhhhhhhhh.

Jimmy Deguara

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Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Sat Meeting + chase?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 99 17:15:07 +1000
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Perhaps everyone who has the time, or is interested, should come prepared 
to chase on this day (Sat 9th) as well. We could then possibly head out 
as a group after the meeting although this will depend on when the 
meeting finishes and where the activity (if any) is in relation to 
Sydney. 

I am becomimg superstitious (and paranoid) as the more I expect storms to 
occur in an area, the less likely they are to occur - so...there is 
absolutely no chance of storms in Sydney or southern tablelands on 
Saturday.

As I said, come prepared.


David


> The meeting for ASWA (Australian Severe Weather Association) will be
>hold on this Saturday the 9th starting at 10:00am. 

>2KY House 20-22 Wentworth St Parramatta very close to the railway station on
>the southern side. A map will be forwarded shortly. There is parking almost
>opposite to the building which is about $5 a day on Saturday.

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There is a reasonably nice complex of storms developing to the WSW of
Sydney. Hopefully, this may move towards the Richmond area. We can then
creep up on them.

Jimmy Deguara

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Damage: $60million Dec 16 storm
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:26:35 +1000
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Hi all, James from Brisbane here

>From a report out of the Courier Mail, the damage bill from the December 16
Brisbane hailstorm will pass $60 million!! The most damage was from cars
which were dented by the 10cm hail.  On average, each car had $4000 in
damage.  By the way, the storm was called a "severe pulse storm" as it
lasted only an hour and a half and consisted of a single severe updraught.
That is despite some reports of low level circulation in the cloudbase.

This damage bill now compares or exceeds the Oct 13 Brisbane supercell.  At
the time, estimates were at $35million for that storm but it's probably
$50-75million now.

All this, and its very quiet here in Brisbane :(
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Sad Sydney situation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:16:00 +1100
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I would have to agree with Jimmy, I don't want to hear another complaint
from a Melbournite ever again, since the beginning of December they have
outstripped Sydney for storm days.

I have a feeling that storms may be back as early as tomorrow, the BOM is
not going for Sydney storms, but there is congestus up as far north as the
central tablelands, radar even indicates a small cell near Lithgow.

Saturday's meeting of NSW chasers could end with a ' live ' session.

Michael


>By the way, we in Sydney are receiving storm chaser counselling after yet
>another bad season so far. Will see what happens around the weekend. I hope
>there is a chase around Saturday after the meeting.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Video in Cars
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:12:20 +1100
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It is a no-no, but I have better sucess holding the camera, don't even think
of looking thru the viewfinder whilst driving, just hold it steady and watch
the road, not the camera.

Canon has a great image stabiliser which can give quick steady pics even on
the road.

Michael


>Jane, you have true storm chasing qualities. Can't let the opportunity of a
>good storm get away. I hope you are able to get out on storm chases.
>Michael Thompson made a styrofoam mounting but the video just shook. It is
>better to stop briefly and take footage that way or have someone with you
>
>By the way, we in Sydney are receiving storm chaser counselling after yet
>another bad season so far. Will see what happens around the weekend. I hope
>there is a chase around Saturday after the meeting.
>
>Jimmy

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Subject: aussie-weather: sev. storm near Wycheproof
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 99 17:42:22 +1000
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Kevin could you see this or better still did you chase it?

(advice may have been posted before!?; I just accidentally trashed some 
mail while updating my browser)

David (from Sydney)



BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE


NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Advice

Issued at 1636 on Wednesday the 6th of January 1999 for the Wimmera and 
Northern
Country districts.

A storm producing severe gusts to 90km/hr occurred near Donald. 

Further severe storms producing severe gusts are possible in the Wimmera
district this afternoon and evening.

This advice should not be used after 10.00pm Wednesday 6th January.

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hhehe jimmy
overshooting tops observed from something to my WNW, for the past 1/2 an
hour, no car again so there goes that idea..
cya's on sat.
Matt S
>There are storms on the mtns which have now developed reasonable anvils.
>One to the WNW probably around Lithgow. Another down S-SW west of
>Wollongong. Warning...warning... Storm chasers stay put otherwise storms
>will dissipate. I will stay right here and observe. I am tempted to race
>out but if they hear my torana, they........ will........ hide........
>from............. me. Shhhhhhhhh.
>
>Jimmy Deguara

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Yes, the so-called overshoot has occurred as another cell punched through
the anvil cast out by the original cell. Might take a pic of this one.

Jimmy

At 05:48 PM 1/6/99 +1100, you wrote:
>hhehe jimmy
>overshooting tops observed from something to my WNW, for the past 1/2 an
>hour, no car again so there goes that idea..
>cya's on sat.
>Matt S

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re:METAR / Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:20:59 +1100
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Thanks Mark re the METAR.

Thanks Michael re video in cars.

Hey Melbournites, can anyone get a clear look at the TCu to the north of Mt
Dandenong??????  Is it worth a drive?

Jane

>-----Original Message-----
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>
>
>Shower in the vicinity
>
>Mark

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storms PLEASE
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Hi Jimmy,

Can't you blow that Lithgow storm up my way?? I am getting bored.

In Orange at the moment 32, 1022hPa, 20% No breeze. Very scattered Cu with
nothing looking remotely promising.

 Terry.

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I suppose you will have to drive the hour or so to get to Lithgow and take
it all in. Your drive is easier than ours. Anyway, you should have been
happy with the hailstorm you got when it civered the area with hail. We
have only received a dumping on the 1st this year, a squall line, and a
storm that some of us had to chase just to oberve it properly. Can't wait
for the day when we get widespread hailstorms and so on.... I am obsessed

Jimmy

At 06:20 PM 1/5/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>Can't you blow that Lithgow storm up my way?? I am getting bored.
>
>In Orange at the moment 32, 1022hPa, 20% No breeze. Very scattered Cu with
>nothing looking remotely promising.
>
> Terry.

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Just a notice saying that this week 6 months ago we started the first
organised Australian weather chat on the internet via IRC, back in the
first week of July, 1998. Prior to that I had always wanted some way of
getting Australian weather enthusiasts to discuss and learn about each
others weather, being a regular on IRC's Undernet #Weather channel, I
thought that having a weekly meeting with other Australian weather
enthusiasts via IRC would be a perfect way in doing this. 

About 2 months later on the 9th September, 1998, this Australian weather
list got under way, "netdave" on irc gave me the idea to start the list,
and with his support and know how we now have a very active list with
currently 84 people on it.

Lots to talk about tonight on IRC with all the active weather we have
around eastern Australia, remember to chat on IRC you can download mIRC at:

http://www.mirc.co.uk/

or, if you're unable to download mIRC for some reason, you can chat via the
web at:

http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

Meeting starts at 9pm EDT, 8pm EST in Queensland, 8:30pm in SA, 7:30pm in
the NT and 6pm in WA.

Jacob 

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:43:31 +1100
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I'm off up Mt Dandenong (7.40pm) - if anyone can tell me anything about
what's where or wants to know what's on the other side of the mountain, my
mobile no. is 0411 455 100.

I can't see a thing from down here in Bayswater, but the Melbourne webcam
still has AcCas showing, so I'm off to the summit and Silvan Reservoir
lookout to see what's what.

Jane

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: NW Vic storms Part II
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 00:57:15 PST
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Hi every1,

Just got back on-line after the power was out for two hours and I 
unplugged at 2.30 p.m. local.

Well, the storms arrived with the first big cells developed by about 3 
p.m. Chased this cell towards Charlton, but a combination of dirt roads 
and rapidly develping HP forced me to divert towards Donald where a 
second and stronger cell was developing. Got some great photos of what 
can only be described as dustnadoes being sucked upwards into the 
thunderstorm base. I'll post them on my site when they're developed. 
Chase ended about 4.30 p.m. with more inaccesible country.
Most of the storms very reasonably high-based but quickly developed 
really intense rain curtains and consequential diminishing of strength. 
Lots of cg around but as luck would have it the battery on my video 
camera expired just as things got going.
Most storms fairly shallow though there was evidence of considerable 
shear at mid-levels but no observed rotation.

Currently much cooler (28 or so) after getting well over 40 at about 4 
p.m. Light to moderate SE'ly but cloud still seems to be travelling 
slowly from the NNW.

Tomorrow promises to be even better, so I'll recharge the batteries and 
sally forth again!

Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 20:31:55 +1100
From: Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]
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Hi all,

In Bendigo we got the aftermath of a line of storms from the north.
We got the SE wind 2 hrs before cloudband which kicked off some updrafts
into a very mature cell.(temp 35C at this point). Strong shear as well.
In the end I got 2mm of rain in 1 Hour.Tenp now 23C.
Only CC Lightning.

Regards,
Soapy

Kevin Phyland wrote:
> 
> Hi every1,
> 
> Just got back on-line after the power was out for two hours and I
> unplugged at 2.30 p.m. local.
> 
> Well, the storms arrived with the first big cells developed by about 3
> p.m. Chased this cell towards Charlton, but a combination of dirt roads
> and rapidly develping HP forced me to divert towards Donald where a
> second and stronger cell was developing. Got some great photos of what
> can only be described as dustnadoes being sucked upwards into the
> thunderstorm base. I'll post them on my site when they're developed.
> Chase ended about 4.30 p.m. with more inaccesible country.
> Most of the storms very reasonably high-based but quickly developed
> really intense rain curtains and consequential diminishing of strength.
> Lots of cg around but as luck would have it the battery on my video
> camera expired just as things got going.
> Most storms fairly shallow though there was evidence of considerable
> shear at mid-levels but no observed rotation.
> 
> Currently much cooler (28 or so) after getting well over 40 at about 4
> p.m. Light to moderate SE'ly but cloud still seems to be travelling
> slowly from the NNW.
> 
> Tomorrow promises to be even better, so I'll recharge the batteries and
> sally forth again!
> 
> Kevin from Wycheproof.

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Lightning
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 01:49:55 PST
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Hi every1,

Anybody interested in the physics of lightning and the latest research 
into it might appreciate this article from Scientific American:

http://www.sciam.com/explorations/1999/010499lightning/index.html

Contains some good links too.

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 21:19:46 +1100
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From: Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: ASWA Meeting
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At 10:45 AM 6/01/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Ok people nows it your turns to take some action...get together, org some
>meetings....lets get goin!
>
>Remember anyone going to the Sydney meeting (please please make it if you
>can..) email Jimmy or me with your rsvp. Thanx.
>
>Paul Mossman
>Secretary
>ASWA

I can't make it, I'll be up in Taree, of all places. 

Ben Munro

Document: 990106.htm
Updated: 15th January, 1999

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