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001 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobwe Re:nicks!!-mail delay
002 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] Severe Weather Potential for Victoria?
003 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au] re date
004 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Storms to S of Canberra
005 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Melbourne weather
006 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] ICQ No.
007 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] High diurnal ranges - update
008 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Lost List Mail:-(
009 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com] Lost List Mail:-(
010 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Storms to S of Canberra
011 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com] Go for it Brian
012 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Orange Weather.
013 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Taree
014 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Lost List Mail:-(
015 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Storms to S of Canberra
016 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Pt. Hedland Cell in Satpic
017 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] mail archives
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] STORMS AND CHASING
019 "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au] Hi
020 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] ASWA Mission statement
021 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Hi
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>Thanx for the e-mail about my isp......I''ve had a bit of trouble lately
>with the mail. Also I've been having trouble logging on sometimes (engaged
>signal) so I'm wondering if they need to have a look at Lismore to see if
>there are any prob's.
>Maybe there's alot of subscribers up here now & it's clogging up the
>system.....who knows???????
>See Ya's
>John
>
Not sure whether this is universal - but i hadn't received anything from
the list since wednesday. I ended up re-subscribing this morning and
presto! all is well....
go figure...
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From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Weather Potential for Victoria?
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 15:14:41 PST
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Hi everyone,
It looks like there is some potential for severe weather over
Victoria in advance of the next front. Upper wind diagrams indicate a
strong polar front jet to the south of Victoria and a possible region of
divergence over Victoria.
Thunderstorms are forecast for today so chasers get ready!
-Paul G.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 11:06:58 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Hi guys
Anyone on aussie weather got an email for a lady looking for
a date (Jessica) im trying to find out where she got my email from.
Aussie weather is the only subscribed set that i use
thanks
current weather is 21Deg baro 1019.3 hpa very humid and a small amount
of fog
pretty boreing stuff really
Brian Gembrook
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storms to S of Canberra
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 19:21:47 PST
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Hi all,
Storms (used loosely) have again developed south of Canberra
today (18/1/98).
Cu first developed over the ranges around 12.00EDT with Cb
forming by 1.00pm EDT.
Reflecting the low surface moisture availability, bases are high
(~3km) and observed precipitation minimal. Anvil outflow looks
considerably stronger than yesterday moving in what appears to
be a generally easterly direction. Tops seem to be punching 1-2km into
the cirrus layer.
Other congestus observed developing along the spine of Divide
to the west (with some layer of castellanus forming) and some
other congestus cells building towards the Goulburn/Braidwood area.
Airport temp 34.3, DP 10.8 at 1.30pm
Patrick
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:26:19 +1100
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Unfortunately the Melbourne web cam seems to have vanished - hopefully only
for a short time - so you'll just have to visualise this report:
AcCas starting up all over the place, As to the S, small Cu to the far
western horizon.
24.7C (airport - NW of CBD)
24.1C (CBD)
24.9C (outer eastern suburbs)
19.8C (eastern bayside - Frankston)
22.3C (Laverton - SW side of the Bay)
22.7C (Mt Dandenong to the east)
DPs 13.8 - 15.5, SW breeze
Could get interesting later in the afternoon!!!
Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: ICQ No.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:54:34 PST
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This was sent to me instead of the list (erroneously?):
>From: LEIGH ANNE SIINO
>To: kjphyland
>Subject: icq number
>Date: Sun, 17 Jan 99 16:01:39 Eastern Daylight Time
>
>hi
>
>my icq number is27430522
>
>-Leigh Anne
Kevin.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: High diurnal ranges - update
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:02:59 +1100 (EST)
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>
> Hi Blair,
>
> I was wondering how I might be able to access the records for the
> Gudgenby site. I do a lot of walking in that area in all seasons and
> would be interested in seeing the figures.
>
> I would guess the site would be at around 960m in altitude. In winter, I
> have often observed the nearby swamp and Bogong Creek to be frozen over
> (including through the day) for several weeks at a time -generally
> during periods of anticyclonic weather. This altitude is well below the
> usual freezing level so there must be some pretty concentrated cold air
> drainage and some very cold overnight temperatures to achieve such an
> outcome.
If the site was where I think it was (at the National Park depot off
to the left just before Glendale Crossing) it's not even quite
optimal for very low temperatures, being a bit up the slope from the
very base of the valley.
I'd expect that some of the more favoured spots in the valleys,
especially the deeper ones like the Orroral and Rendezvous valleys,
could have got close to -20, especially if they have ever been in a
situation with anticyclonic clear skies over snow cover (the June
1946 event comes to mind here). I doubt if there would have been any
snow cover in 1971 when Gudgenby got its -14.6.
>From the point of view of frozen water, the critical thing is for mean
daily temperatures to be below freezing. This almost never happens at
Canberra (2 instances in the record, if I recall correctly), but would
happen reasonably regularly in the high valleys in the colder winters,
even though the maxima rise above freezing (the lowest maximum on
record at Gudgenby is 1.3 in 1986, on a classic cold-outbreak day
which produced widespread snow in SE Australia). It's theoretically
possible for an inversion to persist all day with extremely low maxima
accompanying it, but this is an extremely rare event at 900-1000
metres. It happened at Adaminaby in June 1946 (maximum -7 after a
minimum of -16, over deep snow), but I'm not aware of any other
similar instance outside the alpine area this century.
Blair Trewin
> The same area can, on occasion, be horrendously hot in summer (well high
> 30's and feeling hotter in the stronger sun of this altitude - its all
> relative when you live in this part of the world) and no doubt
> "benefits" from a foehn effect during strong NW wind events.
>
> Thanks Patrick.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:33:10 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Phil Bagust wrote:
>
[snip}
>
> Not sure whether this is universal - but i hadn't received anything from
> the list since wednesday. I ended up re-subscribing this morning and
> presto! all is well....
>
> go figure...
While I was operating two accounts subscribed to aussie-weather, I
noticed only one message that didn't get delivered to
mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au but did get delivered to
mailto:ausweather at netscape.net
Now even when huge delays have operated (>3 days), the mail always
seemed to get through in tha past...eventually. That was until this
one:-(
---included mail extract---
>Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 23:24PM PST
>From: Blair Trewin
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
>Subject: aussie-weather: High diurnal ranges - update
>
>Having spent a lengthy period dredging through high diurnal ranges
>of temperature in Australia...
---end mail extract---
I know that Telstra had problems with its gateway on this occasion and
it was rejecting connections from many places but this bad behaviour
had yet to result in the complete non-delivery of mail. To add to the
mystery, threaded messages either side of this one sent by Blair
arrived without problem at both destinations. Why?
Perhaps the list manager could set up a script to automagically mail
individuals in the event that delivery resumes reporting that
particular message deliveries were aborted e.g. just time/date,
subject and the first few lines.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 01:06:00 -0500
From: David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]
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On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Michael Scollay wrote:
> While I was operating two accounts subscribed to aussie-weather, I
> noticed only one message that didn't get delivered to
> mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au but did get delivered to
> mailto:ausweather at netscape.net
>
> Now even when huge delays have operated (>3 days), the mail always
> seemed to get through in tha past...eventually. That was until this
> one:-(
>
> ---included mail extract---
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 23:24PM PST
> From: Blair Trewin
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
> Subject: aussie-weather: High diurnal ranges - update
>
> Having spent a lengthy period dredging through high diurnal ranges
> of temperature in Australia...
> ---end mail extract---
>
> I know that Telstra had problems with its gateway on this occasion and
> it was rejecting connections from many places but this bad behaviour
> had yet to result in the complete non-delivery of mail. To add to the
> mystery, threaded messages either side of this one sent by Blair
> arrived without problem at both destinations. Why?
>
> Perhaps the list manager could set up a script to automagically mail
> individuals in the event that delivery resumes reporting that
> particular message deliveries were aborted e.g. just time/date,
> subject and the first few lines.
>
I get innumerable "bounce" message all the time (these are messages saying
that the mail system was unable to get the mail host on the other side to
accept a message and will continue to try to send the messages for three
days. Most of these are really no problem, they just show that the other
persons mailserver is temporarily down (maybe its being rebooted), and
will be received the next time it's resent. With others, I wonder why they
stay with that ISP. Sometimes when the list is really busy I will receive 5
bounce messages for every message thats sent to the list. Majordomo will
automatically unsubscribe an address if it bounces for too long a period.
I could send a copy of the bounce notice to the person who's mail bounced,
but chances are, they will either receive it at the same time the message
goes through, or the notice of the bounce will bounce and try to be resent
for the next 3 days, adding more traffic to the server on the other side
that is having problems to begin with. At any rate "World" would be less
that happy with all the added traffic this would cause.
This list is busy enough that I think its safe to say that if you havent
received it 24 hrs, its time to call your ISP and ask them why you are not
getting your mail.
David Hart
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms to S of Canberra
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:16:13 +1100
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I can see lots of anvil from here ( Wollongong ) well to the south, perhaps
200kms which would place it down past Moruya.
Also congestus is over the ranges to west and SW at a distance of perhaps
75km, nothing is glaciating to the west yet, but I just heard on the ABC
radio weather that there was some storm development around Bathurst - Orange
( not severe ) .
Tomorrow looks quite good still, I would however like to be 100km further
SW, just to make sure.
Michael
>Storms (used loosely) have again developed south of Canberra
>today (18/1/98).
>
>Cu first developed over the ranges around 12.00EDT with Cb
>forming by 1.00pm EDT.
>
>Reflecting the low surface moisture availability, bases are high
>(~3km) and observed precipitation minimal. Anvil outflow looks
>considerably stronger than yesterday moving in what appears to
>be a generally easterly direction. Tops seem to be punching 1-2km into
>the cirrus layer.
>
>Other congestus observed developing along the spine of Divide
>to the west (with some layer of castellanus forming) and some
>other congestus cells building towards the Goulburn/Braidwood area.
>
>Airport temp 34.3, DP 10.8 at 1.30pm
>
>
>Patrick
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Subject: aussie-weather: Go for it Brian
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:15:29 +1100
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Jessica, Brian you lucky dog she hasnt contacted me. Dane
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 23:01:17 +1100
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Hi All,
Looks like a storm over Mudgee/Hill End way. A lot of very dark altocumulus
castellanus/cumulonimbus in the NE horizon at the moment. Nothing much over
Orange as usual.
At 5.20pm ESDT small amount of cu. 36C, 1012, 15%, No breeze.
Terry.
mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Taree
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:35:25 +1100
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Nuthing here.......31c, humidity of 40%, winds from the ne gusting to 20
km/h, baro 1009 and dropping fast. Very hot......
same again for tomorrow. Looks better on Wednesday afternoon. So here's
hoping.
Paul
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:33:45 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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David Hart wrote:
>
[snip]
>
> This list is busy enough that I think its safe to say that if you havent
> received it 24 hrs, its time to call your ISP and ask them why you are not
> getting your mail.
Thanks for your prompt reply, Dave. I for one can certainly appreciate
the added traffic etc. that bounced mail results in. Our corporate
mail gateway is one victim. One idea that was toyed about by sysadmins
in my previous group was the adding of status messages into the
trailer added by majordomo/sendmail or ezmlm/qmail. e.g.
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
[standard list help e.g. to unsubscribe...]
[message error e.g. undelivered messages, aborted messages]
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That way, it need only add some extra lines to some messages and not
result in any additional messages. It means that when the recipient
finally receives more recent mail with old mail still stuck in a queue
somewhere (since most mail gateways decrease their attempt cycles on
unsuccessful message delivery and queue the undelivered mail
separately), the recipient can know the details and then contact their
ISP or flush the queue as appropriate. Just an idea...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storms to S of Canberra
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 22:40:58 PST
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Afternoon has progressed well with showers/storms
developing in all directions. Lots of anvils, mammatus
virga visible. Cells are not severe, bases continue
to remain high but some occasional areas of mod-heavy
precipitation. Congestus cells along the line of sea-breeze front
to the east have much lower bases so offer some more
" interesting" storms later on as the front moves inland.
BoM forecasting risk of squalls with tomorrow's storms.
Patrick
>From: "Michael Thompson"
>
>I can see lots of anvil from here ( Wollongong ) well to the south,
perhaps
>200kms which would place it down past Moruya.
>
>Also congestus is over the ranges to west and SW at a distance of
perhaps
>75km, nothing is glaciating to the west yet, but I just heard on the
ABC
>radio weather that there was some storm development around Bathurst -
Orange
>( not severe ) .
>
>Tomorrow looks quite good still, I would however like to be 100km
further
>SW, just to make sure.
>
>Michael
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:17:36 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Those who can sneak a look at;
ftp://geo.msfc.nasa.gov/Weather/GMS-5/gif/vis/4km/9901180533.gif
(1.7MB!)
or an equivalent, reveals a really nice almost circular anvil of a
decent cell (or super-cell?) near Pt. Hedland in WA. From above, it
looks like that one that Paul Graham has on his page taken near Orange
in 1994 that also featured on a BoM calender a year thereafter. I hope
someone's around in the right spot to take a ground pic or that this
cell, whatever type doesn't trouble the settlements in it's path...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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For those who that think they may have missed some messages to
aussie-weather, have a look at the archives here:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/aussiewx.htm
Mail from January 1 onwards has been fully indexed. Please let me know if
any messages you have sent are not there.
regards, Michael
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Michael Bath Oakhurst, Sydney mbath at ozemail.com.au
Australian Severe Weather
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:24:13 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: STORMS AND CHASING
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Hi there
Jimmy here
If anyone is available TOMORROW for chasing and has a car, I would like to
tag along. I am sick and tired of the fact I have had 5.5 weeks holidays to
myself and nothing much has eventuated. My car is for sale and so I would
rather leave it here if possible. The best place to go is around the
Goulbourn area or west to Lithgow. We will see what the situation is int he
morning.
Jimmy Deguara
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From: "Manda .� M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Hi
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:11:10 +1000
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Hi everyone,
���������������� Just joined the list and i am looking forward to hearing
all the news...
I'm from Bowen, North Queensland.We have been having some
pretty great storms lately....heading towards our first cyclone of the season
perhaps.....pretty blowey here at the moment around 25-30 knots and scuddy.
Just waiting to see what this low east of us intends doing....(Who Knows!!)
Anyway now i know why this place i live in is called Blowin Bowen.
������������������������������������������� Manda� �:-)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:42:08 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,
I need a copy of the mission statement pertaining to ASWA.
It is necessary for the development of the ASWA home page.
If they can email it directly to me then that would be much
appreciated or just tell me they have it so something can
be organised.
Also any one with any html pages they think would suit the
assoc.. internet site, can you email that to me as well.
Thanks
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:50:57 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Manda,
Welcome to the list and I hope you enjoy the wide variety of interest conversed
on this list.
Firstly, if you could tell us a little more about yourself, what you do, your
interest in severe weather, etc.
Secondly, if you know if anyone that is interested in severe weather or weather
in general, please tell them about the list.
Finally, being knew to the list, you may be interested to know there is a
weather association known as the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
which is a group formed from members mostly on this list. This society delas
with all aspects of severe weather: study, research, storm chasing and so on.
If you are interested in finding out more about this group, don't hesitate to
ask questions to myself or any others on the list. My e-mail
jimmyd at ozemail.com.au.
Thankyou again for your interest and enjoy it.
Vice President
Australian Severe Weather Association ASWA
At 09:11 PM 1/18/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> Just joined the list and i am looking forward to hearing all
> the news...
> I'm from Bowen, North Queensland.We have been having some pretty great storms
> lately....heading towards our first cyclone of the season perhaps.....pretty
> blowey here at the moment around 25-30 knots and scuddy.Just waiting to see
> what this low east of us intends doing....(Who Knows!!)Anyway now i know why
> this place i live in is called Blowin Bowen.
> Manda �:-)
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