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001 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Next weekend ?
002 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au very heavy rain 25/1
003 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
004 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Re QLD meeting:use of radios
005 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] AMOS weatherwatch meeting
006 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
007 vortex at wwdg.com Back again.
008 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com] Brisbane chase
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
010 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net] Overcast in Brissie
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Sydney Last Night
012 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Sydney Rain
013 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Melbourne Forcast.
014 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] Melbourne Forcast.
015 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] NSW Nth Severe T'storm Advice
016 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Melbourne Forcast.
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Admin: MicroSoft Email Clients
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Overcast in Brissie
019 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] Mt Dandenong and current Melb. weather
020 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
021 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
022 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
023 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
024 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
025 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Looking for AMOS Bulletin material
026 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Re: Weather!!
027 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
028 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. GMS-5 satpics:-(
029 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
030 "David Lalor" [davidjpl at mira.net] Re QLD meeting:use of radios
031 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] "The List" / Mt Dandenong party
032 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
033 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] "The List" / Mt Dandenong party
034 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Possible Dangerous surf tomorrow NSW - Australia Day
035 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Re: Surface Temps for US T outbreak
036 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au Re use of radios
037 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
038 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Trick??? for saving images to help others on the list
039 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] 25/01/99 SE QLD T'storm Chase
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Next weekend ?
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i have next saturday off (as well as this wednesday) so im praying to god
your prediction is right Michael.. WE NEED SOME ACTION!
Matt Smith
>Just doing a bit of crystal ball gazing and pushing the models along
>mentally, and I would say that next Saturday is looking good. A deepening
>trough over Victoria should move into NSW. The upper level shows some
>divergence, but could do with a bit more horse power, the stronger upper
>winds being down in Victoria.
>
>I think the situation should be reviewed say on Thursday and Friday night,
>and if it still looks good we should perhaps organise a chase.
>
>If warranted even an overnight stay on Saturday night.
>
>Anyway don't take the models too seriously, I am projecting past 144 hours
>and that far out the models tend to be a bit wild.
>
>Michael Thompson
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:02:24 +1000
Subject: aussie-weather: very heavy rain 25/1
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Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
else get heavy falls last night?
regards, Michael
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:39:11 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: very heavy rain 25/1
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Michael and all of you,
Jimmy here. It surprises me that Michael got 17.5mm in a very short time
and I live only 5km crow distance away at Schofields and we got 3.2mm. I
was not even awoken. For some reason, I beat Michael in one storm, he beats
me in ten! Oh well back to plan one.
Jimmy
At 09:02 AM 1/25/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>
>Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
>17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
>else get heavy falls last night?
>
>regards, Michael
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re QLD meeting:use of radios
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:45:21 +1100
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Hi Everybody,
Just a few words on what kind of radio(s) would be cheapest to use on
chases.Considering that commericial radio costs anything up to $500 per year
(or more) for the frequency that you use,Amateur radio requires you to have
a license to operate the radios(or have a licensed operator beside you as
you use the gear),UHF or 27 Mhz C.B would be the cheapest (you don't need a
license run them.....) .
Also, if you use an commericial repeater in, say, in the middle of Sydney,
you could lose the coverage if a chase went to Newcastle of Wollongong for
example.
UHF C.B has 8 repeater chns.(1to8) & if a chase went north or south, you
should get at least 1or 2 repeaters.The downside of it is the at #$%&*! idiots
that get on the air.....nothing worse than having a chat & some phantom
burper,farter,jammer comes on..........You can get that on the Amateur
bands as well (I bet I've jumped on a few toes with that...) but it does
happen.
As I'm into radios & scanning, I could go on for heaps more.....I thought
I'd just give a brief run down on what you could use......
See Ya's
John from Ballina
P.S...Are there any Amateur's or C.Bers on the list?????...I'd like to
know......Bye....
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:56:40 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: AMOS weatherwatch meeting
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For thos in Sydney or perhaps those who would like to come to Sydney, there
is an AMOS weatherwatch meeting this Wednesday 27th January at Macquarie
University in room E5A143. The meeting starts at 7:30pm but Michael and I
usually are waiting for the door to be opened because we get there much
earlier!! Usually what is dicussed at this meeting is storms and I am quite
certain that the flash floods will make the headlines in this meeting. At
the moment, boring Jimmy (me) houses the meeting.
If you have not had the chance to come to ASWA meetings as yet there are
certainly going to be quite a few members coming along to this plus the
other AMOS members. It is an enthusiastic informal meeting centred on
giving everyone the chance for discussion of their topic of interest. So
come along! Write this down in your diary. If you need more info on how to
get there please indicate so by e-mailing me or Michael.
Please note: TAKE CHANGE OF $4 DOLLARS FOR PARKING AS THEY ARE BOOKING
PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PAY THE PARKING FEE IN THE AUTOMATIC MACHINES.
So you I'' see you all there.
Jimmy Deguara
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: very heavy rain 25/1
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:28:27 +1100
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Hi Everyone,
I received 15mm overnight from a series of heavy downpours. The heaviest was
at 4 a.m. when i was awoken to the thunderous sound of torrential rain. It
only lasted about 5 -10 mins however.
Matthew Piper
>Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
>17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
>else get heavy falls last night?
>
>regards, Michael
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:34:35 -0700
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Just letting you know I'm back online again after a christmas break. Unfortunately
not at home, but I have free, unlimited access here in Horsham. (It's worth the
20 minute drive)
Not much has happened down here, but the Grampians bushfire, in which I'm doing a
report on that now.
Regards,
Paul.
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:06:44 PST
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I would if I knew how to, and it helps since Im at work which involves
being in front of a computer all day. Maybe in the future? (I might
even join you too after my knowledge becomes up to scratch!!)
>Hey Ben from Brisbane here ..
>
>A couple of us from Brisbane (Ross, Anthony and myself) Will be chasing
>W/SW of Brisbane tomorrow. I was keeping a list of phone numbers that
>were posted to the list, but i cant seem to track it down at the
>moment. If there is anyone who is not busy and wouldn't mid us calling
>them during the day and grabbing a radar rundown from them, could you
>please post your number to the list?
>
>Thanks in Advance ..
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:50:41 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
>
> Can somebody PLEEEEEASE tell me how to get rid of this attachment
> thingy if it's going out with my email??? It's something that only
> started happening a few months ago and I haven't got a clue where to
> look to take it off or stop it!!!
>
> ANYWUN????
I don't know MicroSoft Internet Explorer or Outlook Express that well
but one would hope that there is something akin to "Preferences" or
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Michael Scollay
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Subject: aussie-weather: Overcast in Brissie
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:59:24 +-1000
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It's grey, and damp and looking set to get wet. Current temp here at The Gap approx 25.
rals-in-bed-with-headcold
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:14:41 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Fellow Weather Watchers.
Be very careful of media reports. They tend to get dated like this F3
blockage one. Sure, it was really messy early on Sunday morning and
there were isolated heavy showers around until 11am. By the time we
(my family) decided to venture north toward the Central Coast via the
F3 at 12:30, the day was turning out to be pretty darn good from a
fine weather perspective. The F3 was a dream run at 13:15 with no H20
in any unusual places. Given that it takes the F3 a couple of hours or
more to clear after a major blockage, I'd say F3 flooding was all over
sometime between 9 and 10am at the latest.
By the way, at Lindfield, we've recorded 238mm since Wednesday
20/1/99.
Michael Scollay
Matt Smith wrote:
>
> Hi everyone
>
> Me and Ben were discussing the floods in sydney when we both turned on the
> news and saw footage of the floods , watch the news tonight and you will
> see it, sydney airport was drenched with most of it under water (ankle deep
> maybe more), and the F3 north of the city was cut and still is(2.15pm)
> because of floods so they say on the news, also saw footage of water just
> under a cars roof and a street under water...
> yet here we got barely a drop, although we have had 38mm since midnight on
> friday.
>
> Matt Smith
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:19:03 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Don White wrote:
>
> Major rain events in parts of Sydney caused by stationery storm cells.
> The one that closed the F3 did so because sheets of water cascading off
> 30 metre cliffs that are formed where the expressway cuts through the
> sandstome hills around Berowra were considered dangerous.
> Berowra reported 210 mm of rain between 7.45 and 10 am - with 141 mm
> falling in 75 minutes between 7.45 and 9 am.
> Another storm cell formed just south of the city and moved slowly to the
> airport. Sydney Obs Hill had only 6 mm but 3 kms to south there was >60
> mm. Mascot had 60 and Randwick 74 with an unoffical report of 95 mm from
> Alexandria.
> Currently 2.45 pm - radar show semi-stationery storm cells off coast and
> around SW suvs to Bowral and beyond. freezing level lowering - hail a
> possibility later
> Don White
Thanks Don. It was getting pretty cool for this time of year as I
drove toward the City at 9:30am on Sunday. The temperature got as low
as 17C during rain spells and my parents reported 11C at Echo Point in
Katoomba.
Michael Scollay
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Forcast.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:18:26 +1100
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Hi All,
After last weeks effort, Melbourne looks as though it may fire up again
towards the end of this week.
Tuesday - Thunderstorms are likely in the NE of the state. MAX 25.
Wednesday - Afternoon thunderstorms possible about the ranges. MAX 31C.
Thursday - Isolated showers and thunderstorms likely to develop in most
districts. MAX 31C.
Friday - Thunderstorms probable in the Central and Eastern Districts. MAX
31C.
Could be a good week for those of us who don't have to work. May be a good
time for another meeting up on Mt. Dandenong so we can get to know one
another.
Andrew McDonald.
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:37:49 PST
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Hi Andrew, that sounds like a great idea, let's hope that the storm gods
look as kindly upon us as they did last Friday. It's already looking
alright with plenty of Cu around today. For those who do want to meet up
on Mt Dandenong, maybe we should either arrange a place to meet closer
to Friday or just post what type and colour of of car we drive so we can
spot each other while up there. With an ASWA meeting coming up in the
next 3 weeks, what better way to introduce ourselves than by watching a
storm together.
Chris
>Hi All,
>
>After last weeks effort, Melbourne looks as though it may fire up again
>towards the end of this week.
>
>Tuesday - Thunderstorms are likely in the NE of the state. MAX 25.
>Wednesday - Afternoon thunderstorms possible about the ranges. MAX 31C.
>Thursday - Isolated showers and thunderstorms likely to develop in most
>districts. MAX 31C.
>Friday - Thunderstorms probable in the Central and Eastern Districts.
MAX
>31C.
>
>Could be a good week for those of us who don't have to work. May be a
good
>time for another meeting up on Mt. Dandenong so we can get to know one
>another.
>
>Andrew McDonald.
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Nth Severe T'storm Advice
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:57:01 +1000
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Hi all, James from Brisbane here. I just got home from work and in a couple
of hours I will go back. That meant I was unable to join the Brisbane
people who were going chasing today. I believe they were heading out
towards the Stanthorpe/Tenterfield area and guess what? A severe t'storm
advice was issued for the NSW northern tablelands. Currently, the lightning
tracker shows weak storm activity west of Stanthorpe out near Inglewood. In
Brisbane it has been cloudy all day decreasing the chance of something close
to the city :-( Lets hope they see something good later today!
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1519 on Monday the 25th of January 1999
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
Northern Tablelands
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area from now until 7:00pm.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
* put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows
During and after storms people should: * take extreme care when driving
* beware of fallen trees and power lines
* keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away
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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:02:36 +1100
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Ok - guys let's get some organising happening here.
Jane (Bayswater) drives a purple - no, actually it's a dark
amethyst VR Commodore NCW162 (and is the only 40'something female you're
likely to meet from the list up the mountain to my knowledge at this stage).
Mobiles - 0411 455 100 or if that doesn't answer 0407 519 821.
By Friday I'll have a tea/coffee making outfit organised - so bring a cup if
you want one. No, I don't bake cakes
Also needed, camera, videos, too many films, tapes & batteries, tripods,
jackets for cold winds, mobile phones, senses of humour etc etc
See you there
Jane
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>From: Chris Gribben
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Monday, 25 January 1999 3:47
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne Forcast.
>
>
>Hi Andrew, that sounds like a great idea, let's hope that the storm gods
>look as kindly upon us as they did last Friday. It's already looking
>alright with plenty of Cu around today. For those who do want to meet up
>on Mt Dandenong, maybe we should either arrange a place to meet closer
>to Friday or just post what type and colour of of car we drive so we can
>spot each other while up there. With an ASWA meeting coming up in the
>next 3 weeks, what better way to introduce ourselves than by watching a
>storm together.
>
>Chris
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:58:54 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> "truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
> >
> > Can somebody PLEEEEEASE tell me how to get rid of this attachment
> > thingy if it's going out with my email??? It's something that only
> > started happening a few months ago and I haven't got a clue where to
> > look to take it off or stop it!!!
> >
> > ANYWUN????
>
> I don't know MicroSoft Internet Explorer or Outlook Express that well
> but one would hope that there is something akin to "Preferences" or
> "Setup" from within the application where stuff like caches, proxies,
> mail look and feel etc. are configured. If you have no luck with this
> then use Netscape instead:-)
More info: I asked one of our resident mail experts about this. He
reckons that this TNEF ( Encoding Format) attachment is a
MicroSoft thingy that concerns the positioning and encoding of
attachments and other encoded parts in the mail. So if you turn off
"Rich Text Encoding" capability etc., then you'll send only plain text
from MicroSoft Email clients, notably Internet Explorer, Outlook etc.
Wullah. I think "sending only plain text" is what we agreed to
in-the-beginning. The trouble is finding out how to ensure this from
the myriad of Email clients available:-(
Michael Scollay
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Poor rals!!!
Jimmy
At 11:59 AM 1/25/99 +0000, you wrote:
>
>It's grey, and damp and looking set to get wet. Current temp here at The Gap
>approx 25.
>
>rals-in-bed-with-headcold
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Chris (North Balwyn) drives an allegedly red Sigma station wagon with a
rusting tailgate and no. plate FWA-821. If the forecast stays as it is
at the moment I'll probably go up both Thursday and Friday, although
Thursday may be the day to go on a chase. Look forward to meeting you
all there.
Surprised to see that the dew-point in Melbourne CBD at the moment is 19
and the air temperature is 29 (was 33 earlier). RH is around 55-60% but
it doesn't seem to be that humid. There are some nice Cu around to the
east, but nothing too spectacular, or too big, unfortunately. The
forecast here for tommorrow is 23 with a shower or two. Thursday and
Friday look to be promising at this early stage with showers & storms
forecast due to another low pressure trough deepening over Victoria.
What's happening in SE QLD and Nth NSW at the moment?
Chris
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:48:22 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Yes... but only 6 mm at 1.45 am - semed like it all fell in 1-2 minutes
- roared up the street then it was gone
Don
Michael_Bath at amp.com.au wrote:
>
> Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
> 17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
> else get heavy falls last night?
>
> regards, Michael
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:52:30 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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13.8 millimetres at North Seven Hills between 2 and 3 am. There were 2 separate
showers with a fine break of 30 minutes in between Estimted rain rate over 60
mm/hr. No thunder or lightning.
Don White wrote:
> Yes... but only 6 mm at 1.45 am - semed like it all fell in 1-2 minutes
> - roared up the street then it was gone
> Don
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Welcome to Keith Barnett.
Please introduce yourself. Another person for Jane to add for the list.
Another one for Sydney Jane....:)
Jimmy
At 05:52 PM 1/25/99 +1100, you wrote:
>13.8 millimetres at North Seven Hills between 2 and 3 am. There were 2
separate
>showers with a fine break of 30 minutes in between Estimted rain rate over 60
>mm/hr. No thunder or lightning.
>Don White wrote:
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:13:42 +1100
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That is pretty heavy !!!! I got a few showers yesterday evening that were
marginally heavy, but it was dry most of the rest of the night, there were
some showers along the Illawarra escarpment at 7-9am.
Michael
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>From: Michael_Bath at amp.com.au
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Monday, 25 January 1999 8:58
>Subject: aussie-weather: very heavy rain 25/1
>
>
>Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
>17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
>else get heavy falls last night?
>
>regards, Michael
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Hi my name is Keith Barnett and I have just joined up. I live at North Seven Hills
in Sydney. I have been collecting weather information since I was 10 years old (ie
for 41 years).
I have a special interest in intense rainfalls and extreme or record-breaking
observations.
I don't know what started my interest in the weather. I can recall that as a boy
I would tell the kids in the street that on a windy day it was the clouds moving
past the earth, not the other way around. I was never good at maths and physics,
only chemistry and classical music, at school. The teachers could never work out
why I was so keen on such a scientific subject.
I have built up a database of 22 years' records at my present address, including
maximum, minimum and grass minimum temperatures, evaporation, rainfall, barometer
readings, wind run ,phenomena and until recently, solar radiation. For over 30
years I supplied summaries of my data to the weather bureau but stopped in 1994. I
used to write newspaper forecasts for the Parramatta Advertiser in the early
1980s..
I am hoping to build a website and make my readings available on a monthly basis,
but at present am being intimidated by the software.
I would like to live somewhere where 10 inches of rain falls every day but I guess
that would be a bit monotonous and slushy..!
(I'm not contemplating a move to Cherrapunji)...
I would be pleased to hear from anyone interested in my observations.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Looking for AMOS Bulletin material
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:21:38 +1100 (EST)
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>
> Blair,
>
> The only chase worthy so far is from the Friday 13th November 1998. Link to
> the reports by myself and David Croan from here:
> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/index.html
Thanks. With a bit of luck we might get some more 'hot off the presses'
material from later this week, but I'm not holding my breath....
> I can provide better quality scans if you wish to use the material there.
>
> Also, I believe you asked for an intro to ASWA for an earlier edition of
> the Bulletin. Would you still like this?
>
> regards, Michael
> President, ASWA
Yes please. Could you have something ready by the middle of next week?
Thanks,
Blair
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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Weather!!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:32:48 +1100
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Hey all. Well everyone else is having soooo much fun with there weather,
thought I would tell u about mine - BORING!! yes thats right....boring. Very
warm & very humid, with little or no rain....its actually prob 5 percentile
BELOW average rains here at the moment, and unless we get major falls
between now & 31.1 it looks like being a below average month.... :-(
We desperately need some good falls.....sure the grounds green but the water
table has fell considerably...which is no good for farmers at this time of
year. Anyways.......had a thundery shower yesterday (after the severe
warning was issued) and netted us a whopping .2mm!! whooopeeeee.
Humidity has been over 70% all day everyday with DP on 20 or 21...so when we
do get some action....it maybe worth while!
Great to hear & see so many contributors in the last few days ....at least
50 mails per day so far! Great.
Remember next ASWA meeting is on the 13.2.99 at at GB again. (Thanx Grant.) I
will hopefully get the last meetings minutes out very shortly ..........have
had a very hectic schedule. No news re: incorporation yet ...hoping to hear
soon....but I was warned it does take some time. So we have to be patient.
Great idea regarding the business cards - someone sit down and design them
and e-mail it to me so I can take it to the next meeting.
Talk soon.
Paul
Taree
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:42:08 +1100
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Sounds great Keith, with 41 years of records your knowledge would be very
welcomed. I am sure many of us would be interested in some of the intense
rainfall records you have recorded over the years.
Michael
>Hi my name is Keith Barnett and I have just joined up. I live at North
Seven Hills
>in Sydney. I have been collecting weather information since I was 10 years
old (ie
>for 41 years).
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:50:12 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Hi all...Since when has it been a feature of GMS5 satpics to
habitually miss the period from UTC 0000 to UTC0500? I know the BoM
put out a fax pertaining to outages but what is the underlying reason?
It stuffs up my nifty animations:-( As an aside and only for those
with high-speed 'net access like yours-truely, does anyone know what
software is able to read the hdf format files from
ftp://rsd.gsfc.nasa.gov/pub/Weather/GMS-5/hdf ? I've managed to
uncompress them but the conversion to tiff format fails every time:-(
Incidently, apparently the hdf files are the only true 4km resolution
satpics. The rest involve a sampling algorithm that gives variable
resolution dependant upon the detail desired.
Michael Scollay
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
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Rather lost in amongst the spectacular flooding in Sydney (some of
which, at least, appears to owe as much to the inadequacy of Coogee's
drainage as to the intensity of the rain) were some very high totals
near the NSW/Victorian border.
The most notable falls were 326mm in the 24 hours to 0900 Sunday at
Green Cape, and 237mm at Gabo Island. This is a record daily fall for
any month at Gabo Island (in >120 years of record), but Green Cape
has recorded 370 (and there have been falls in excess of 400mm in
other NSW South Coast locations, most notably in the remarkable May
of 1925 - in which Araluen (south of Braidwood) had three separate
events, each a week or so apart, with storm totals > 200mm, culminating
in a three-day fall of 630mm on the 26th-28th).
Blair Trewin
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From: "David Lalor" [davidjpl at mira.net]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re QLD meeting:use of radios
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:02:39 +1100
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>P.S...Are there any Amateur's or C.Bers on the list?????...I'd like to
>know......Bye....
I hold a novice-limited license for amateur radio. I am VK2HDL and only have
gear for 2-metres and packet. I also work UHF CB and am a scanner
enthusiast.
I agree with the use of UHF-CB for chase comms. I guess it depends on
location and the behaviour of other operators on repeaters. I have found in
the more rural areas repeaters are generally relatively safe from idiots (at
least in this area). On a chase, car to car comms would probably be achieved
well enough on normal simplex channel. The benefit of UHF-CB would be that
other chasers with scanners would be able to monitor the comms, not to many
scanners go down to 27MHz.
Cheers
David L (Thurgoona, near Albury, NSW)
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: "The List" / Mt Dandenong party
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:36:47 +1100
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"The List" is still growing with details continuing to trickle in. Of the
83 people on aussie-weather as of lunchtime we now have details varying for
65 of us.
Collecting the following info if you'd like to fill in a gap:
Name, Suburb / Town , State (I can usually work that out), ICQ No (if you
have one), Home Phone no, Mobile, Nick, email address (I can manage that one
too), homepage URL (if you are a clever person unlike me!)
So far: ACT - 1, UK - 2, USA - 2, SA - 3, WA - 6, QLD - 11, Vic - 16,
NSW - 20, unknown - 4.
Onto Thursday / Friday night's get together(s) in the carpark below the
restaurant at Mt Dandenong for those who turn up starting at 6.30-7pm, I'll
bring tea, coffee, milk, video, camera, topographical maps, compass, BTW if
my sense of humour is still as bad as it is at the moment, I'll bring that
too . Someone else can bring the rest.
hehe, I've got an unfair advantage - I know Clyve, Dane, Andrew & Claire by
sight already thanks to last weekend's little show.
Here's hoping for some weather to watch.
Jane
Bayswater
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:54:57 +1100
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Thanks for that info Blair. A rugby union fan at work today said that Coogee
oval nearly goes under on peak tides.
The rainfall records for Araluen surprise me, it is a remote village that
from the town centre seems completely landlocked. The river flats at Araluen
narrow to the east and the Deua River runs through a narrow gorge for many
kilometres before reaching coastal flats near Moruya. To the west is a sheer
rise of mountain to the Braidwood plateau, it must be this lifting that
helps with the rainfall. Although close to Braidwood, Araluen would be
perhaps only 200-300m above sea level, whilst Braidwood is close to 700m,
yet I have heard of snow falling at Araluen from an old resident. I also
lived in Moruya for 12 months and locals assured me that snow has fallen on
the closest range of mountains west of town, these look impressive, but
thats the ones well back, the first range is perhaps 400m high.
Michael
>Rather lost in amongst the spectacular flooding in Sydney (some of
>which, at least, appears to owe as much to the inadequacy of Coogee's
>drainage as to the intensity of the rain) were some very high totals
>near the NSW/Victorian border.
>
>The most notable falls were 326mm in the 24 hours to 0900 Sunday at
>Green Cape, and 237mm at Gabo Island. This is a record daily fall for
>any month at Gabo Island (in >120 years of record), but Green Cape
>has recorded 370 (and there have been falls in excess of 400mm in
>other NSW South Coast locations, most notably in the remarkable May
>of 1925 - in which Araluen (south of Braidwood) had three separate
>events, each a week or so apart, with storm totals > 200mm, culminating
>in a three-day fall of 630mm on the 26th-28th).
>
>Blair Trewin
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It's great to see the Victorian crowd getting it together !!!
Normally you would be green with envy at us NSW weather buffs, but Melbourne
is well ahead on storm stakes this summer, I know the weekend may have
sounded exciting in Sydney, but unless you you were in the few suburbs
affected it was boring, ask Jimmy for his opinion.
Come winter and whilst us NSW buffs sit watching another dry west wind with
clear skies and 20% humidity, you guys will be at Mt Dandenong waiting for
snow flakes. Unless of course the east coast lows get into gear.
Also tell that Clyve to get his act together and get net access.
Michael
>Onto Thursday / Friday night's get together(s) in the carpark below the
>restaurant at Mt Dandenong for those who turn up starting at 6.30-7pm, I'll
>bring tea, coffee, milk, video, camera, topographical maps, compass, BTW if
>my sense of humour is still as bad as it is at the moment, I'll bring that
>too . Someone else can bring the rest.
>hehe, I've got an unfair advantage - I know Clyve, Dane, Andrew & Claire by
>sight already thanks to last weekend's little show.
>
>Here's hoping for some weather to watch.
>
>Jane
>Bayswater
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Possible Dangerous surf tomorrow NSW - Australia Day
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:05:13 +1100
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There is a good 6-8ft surf running from the E/NE today, with 20 years on the
ole surfboard in my younger days I know a cyclone swell when I see one. It
does not matter if the cyclone was off near New Caledonia, as long as it has
tracked S/SW for at least some its distance it often produces swell down the
NSW coast. At 6-8ft ( 10ft on exposed reefs ) this is not a big cyclone
swell.
Unfortunately it is what I call a drowning surf. A moderate ground swell
combined with a warm day. Most people can go to beach and if its 12-15ft say
yep its dangerous and not venture in, but a 6-8ft cyclone swell can look
relatively safe as there is a very large swell interval, often with periods
of smaller 3-5ft waves for 10 minutes or more, than all of sudden a 6-8ft
period, this is what catches most non-surf people out as the rips will fire
up from seemingly nowhere.
Added to this is the pressure for surf clubs to keep open beaches on these
conditions, especially on a warm sunny day.
Be careful if you go to the beach tomorrow, especially if it faces NE. On
the other hand if you are a board rider, wax up the stick and head for the
point breaks.
Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Re: Surface Temps for US T outbreak
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:12:08 +1100
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Thanks for your reply Sam, you have given the aussi boys some tips with the
temp difference between 500 and 700mb, although we look at jets here in
accessing severe weather, we often overlook the other smaller tips like the
one below.
Interesting, as some of our tornadoes of the Northern Tablelands of NSW have
occurred in early spring when surface temps are only just into the 70s.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
>From: Sam Barricklow
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Saturday, 23 January 1999 23:47
>Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Surface Temps for US T outbreak
>
>
>Michael, the surface temps over Arkansas ranged from the mid 60s to the low
>70s F.
>
>This system's atmospheric dynamics were awesome. In addition to intense
winds
>aloft and cold temps at 500mb, the 850mb low level jet was incredible,
>feeding the system with warm moist tropical air from the Gulf of Mexico at
50
>to 70 mph!
>
>Another factor I look at is the absolute temperature difference between 700
>and 500 mb, which serves as a quick measure of mid level instability. A
delta
>of 19 degrees C or greater is usually considered sufficient for tornadoes,
if
>the other ingredients are present. On Thursday, the 700/500 delta T was 23
>degrees C over Arkansas and Louisiana. Differences of this magnitude are
>usually seen only during spring.
>
>Real-time SREH (storm relative helicity) was estimated to be in excess of
300,
>based on the most recent hodograph and the observed storm motion. A SREH
of
>150 or so is typically considered to be the lower threshold for tornadoes
(but
>I don't consider this to be an unbreakable rule).
>
>Arkansas was also in the left forward quadrant of an intense approaching
jet
>maximum and the right rear quandrant of a departing jet max, both locations
>where lift and venting at the top of the updraft are enhanced.
>
>Although not unprecedented, it was a fairly unusual event.
>
>Sam Barricklow
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:41:41 +1100
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
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Just a thought - I spent a couple of seasons working as a radio operator for
Sydney Surf Life Saving radio room as a volunteer during the weekend patrol
hours - we had our own channels obviously because we were a rescue group.
Additionally worked on vhf and uhf
Just a thought but it may be worth getting in contact with the Sydney surf life
saving for some advice. Maybe also you could approach them regarding weekend
assistance
Susan
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:47:59 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
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Blair...
When did Greencape have 370 mm in a day ??
Don White
Blair Trewin wrote:
>
> Rather lost in amongst the spectacular flooding in Sydney (some of
> which, at least, appears to owe as much to the inadequacy of Coogee's
> drainage as to the intensity of the rain) were some very high totals
> near the NSW/Victorian border.
>
> The most notable falls were 326mm in the 24 hours to 0900 Sunday at
> Green Cape, and 237mm at Gabo Island. This is a record daily fall for
> any month at Gabo Island (in >120 years of record), but Green Cape
> has recorded 370 (and there have been falls in excess of 400mm in
> other NSW South Coast locations, most notably in the remarkable May
> of 1925 - in which Araluen (south of Braidwood) had three separate
> events, each a week or so apart, with storm totals > 200mm, culminating
> in a three-day fall of 630mm on the 26th-28th).
>
> Blair Trewin
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This may be a good idea for those intereted in trying to help out with chases.
Fot those wishing to save satellite imagery, radar, and other types of
images, I would suggest to keep in mind that you have cache and you can get
the images from there if you wish particularly if you are not at the
computer for a few hours or all day. You can leave it logged on (depending
on you access plan), and then get the images later. This is what I do but
please not that larger images will take up a lot of your space in cache.
I just rename them something more appropriate and then store in a safer
directory and give to those who may wish to obtain the images.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:58:03 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,
I'll have a report out very soon about today's chase! In brief...I can
say with fair confidence that what we chased was a supercell...yes big
call I know - perhaps people can give me feedback on the report when I
get it out. But what a fantastic day!!!!
Anthony Cornelius
Very pleased storm chaser
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