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001 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Attn Laurier
002 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Hot night in Perth
003 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au] Hot night in Perth
004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] ASWA Logo Colour Scheme
005 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net] Mini Tornado
006 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Speed of Lightening
007 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Attn Laurier
008 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
009 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au ASWA Logo?
010 vortex at wwdg.com Possible storms for Vic on Friday?
011 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Aussie Weather
012 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] NSW Severe T'storm Advice (again!)
013 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Low temperature at Kalumburu (WA)
014 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] More on Kalumburu
015 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com] Victorian Outlook
016 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Low temperature at Kalumburu (WA)
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] "The List"
018 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Mini Tornado
019 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
020 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Orange Weather.
021 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] BIG storm to the NE
022 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Chase tonight.
023 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Rainy weather
024 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Storm chase on again
025 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net] very heavy rain 25/1
026 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net] very heavy rain 25/1
027 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] Mini Tornado
028 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Ooopppp's
029 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Mini Tornado
030 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Aussie Weather
031 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] "The List"
032 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] very heavy rain 25/1
033 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
034 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Orange Weather
035 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Sydney prospects for weekend
036 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Charleville Severe Thunderstorm
037 Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au Lightning Show in Adelaide
038 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] SWA Logo?
039 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Mini Tornado
040 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net] Re: Surface Temps for US T outbreak
041 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] 25/01/99 Thunderstorm Chase Report
042 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Melbourne sorta bust
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:14:49 GMT
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:45:51 +1100, "paulmoss"
wrote:
>Howdy Laurier. Was just looking at your site, inc the Thunderstorm
>weatherwall, and it is playing up, with it showing the 144hr Humidity, temp
>850mb map rather the TT's & Precip water maps.
>
Hi, Paul. It's not my site playing up, but the COLA site that the
images come from. They have been missing the MRF data bulletins
several days this month (i.e. the site hasn't been updated -- which is
why it's always wise to check dates on the panels before looking at
them), and today's run on the data seems to have scrambled different
frames, not just for Australia but all other regions as well.
In my experience, they usually get it sorted after a few days. I'll
email them if the problems persist.
--
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Hot night in Perth
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Hottest night for the summer so far here in Perth, currently 29.5C at
1:05am WST in the city.
Met Observations for PerthBureau of Meteorology, Perth
Issued at 0105 on 27/01/1999.
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CODE STATION CURRENT OBS (within last hour)
Temp Dew Pt Wind Press
deg C deg C dir spd hPa
Kn
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PERT PERTH CITY 29.5 12.8 070 008 1003
YPPH PERTH AIRPORT 29.9 11.7 100 021 1003
YRTI ROTTNEST ISLAND 28.0 16.0 100 011 1002
YPJT JANDAKOT AIRPORT 29.7 11.4 090 014 1004
I notice that temperatures like this happens quite often in Adelaide during
hot summer nights, where some nights the temp may not even get below 30, is
it just the Kent Town site where Adelaide records its temperatures, or
something else that keeps the heat in there, because usually other southern
cities like Perth and Melbourne it cools down quicker after hot day.
Jacob
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:30:49 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Hehe Jacob,
Im sitting here working on my web page and Im really feeling it even though its
1:30 in the morning
Greg :-)
Jacob wrote:
> Hottest night for the summer so far here in Perth, currently 29.5C at
> 1:05am WST in the city.
>
> Met Observations for PerthBureau of Meteorology, Perth
> Issued at 0105 on 27/01/1999.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> CODE STATION CURRENT OBS (within last hour)
> Temp Dew Pt Wind Press
> deg C deg C dir spd hPa
> Kn
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> PERT PERTH CITY 29.5 12.8 070 008 1003
> YPPH PERTH AIRPORT 29.9 11.7 100 021 1003
> YRTI ROTTNEST ISLAND 28.0 16.0 100 011 1002
> YPJT JANDAKOT AIRPORT 29.7 11.4 090 014 1004
>
> I notice that temperatures like this happens quite often in Adelaide during
> hot summer nights, where some nights the temp may not even get below 30, is
> it just the Kent Town site where Adelaide records its temperatures, or
> something else that keeps the heat in there, because usually other southern
> cities like Perth and Melbourne it cools down quicker after hot day.
>
> Jacob
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:17:45 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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My vote is 1, 6 and 8
Matthew Piper wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Ive created a list of 10 different colour schemes for the proposed ASWA
> logo. Images of the different coloured logos can be obtained from the
> following address.
>
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/logo.jpg
>
> If i could get some feedback on the preferred colour scheme it would be most
> appreciated. I have numbered the logos from 1-10 so as to make it easy for
> you to state your preference.
>
> Matthew Piper
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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
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Subject: RE: aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:04:15 +-1000
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/rals jumps up n down looking a delightful shade of beetroot red .. aaarrrrggghh!!!!!!!
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>From: Michael Fewings
>: aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
>
>Hi all,
>
>I have just seen a news article on the channel 9 news, based
>in Perth, of a "mini tornado" in today that has to take the
>cake.
>
>What it actually was, would you believe, was a willie willie
>or dust devil!
>
>Can you possibly believe that, a mini tornado in blue
>skies!!
>
>I think something might need to be done regarding this. But
>then I thought it was a good laugh.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:53:09 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Speed of Lightening
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Hi all. I hope you had some good chases during the Australia Day
public holiday. It looked promising at times around Sydney-town but
thank heavens most of the forecasts managed to get rain falling up to
predictions during the night, only to fizzle-out during the day...
I have a niggling technical question: What is the measured speed of
lightening propagation? That is the speed of the average "bolt" from
cloud to cloud or cloud to ground and other weird combinations
thereof?
I don't expect the answer to be the speed of light, since electrical
impulses propagate through copper at something less that the speed of
light, so I'd imagine something like this also for lightening. But I
could easily be wrong...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:07:24 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Attn Laurier
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Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:45:51 +1100, "paulmoss"
> wrote:
>
> >Howdy Laurier. Was just looking at your site, inc the Thunderstorm
> >weatherwall, and it is playing up, with it showing the 144hr Humidity, temp
> >850mb map rather the TT's & Precip water maps.
> >
> Hi, Paul. It's not my site playing up, but the COLA site that the
> images come from. They have been missing the MRF data bulletins
> several days this month (i.e. the site hasn't been updated -- which is
> why it's always wise to check dates on the panels before looking at
> them), and today's run on the data seems to have scrambled different
> frames, not just for Australia but all other regions as well.
>
> In my experience, they usually get it sorted after a few days. I'll
> email them if the problems persist.
>
Hi guys,
I Emailed COLA on the second day this occured 20/1/1999 with a
complete list of corrupted files for the Australian section. Knowing
something about how they go about this map generation, it is likely
that something weird has happened to one of their scripts, like a
phantom unprintable character that was inserted by accident. This
would be a real pain to find out and correct.
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/ \ Telstra Technology 7/255 Elizabeth St. Sydney NSW 2000
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v Sydney NSW Australia +61 2 9298 5891P +61 2 9298 5820F
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Very ehavy rain in far SE NSW/E Vic
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:05:24 +1100 (EST)
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>
> Thanks for that info Blair. A rugby union fan at work today said that Coogee
> oval nearly goes under on peak tides.
>
> The rainfall records for Araluen surprise me, it is a remote village that
> from the town centre seems completely landlocked. The river flats at Araluen
> narrow to the east and the Deua River runs through a narrow gorge for many
> kilometres before reaching coastal flats near Moruya. To the west is a sheer
> rise of mountain to the Braidwood plateau, it must be this lifting that
> helps with the rainfall. Although close to Braidwood, Araluen would be
> perhaps only 200-300m above sea level, whilst Braidwood is close to 700m,
> yet I have heard of snow falling at Araluen from an old resident. I also
> lived in Moruya for 12 months and locals assured me that snow has fallen on
> the closest range of mountains west of town, these look impressive, but
> thats the ones well back, the first range is perhaps 400m high.
>
> Michael
I've done a bit more digging around about this (and intend to do some
more with a view to writing an AMOS Bulletin article about it).
The highest monthly rainfalls in May 1925 in the South Coast area
were:
1271mm Nelligen (about 12km inland from Batemans Bay on the Clyde
River)
1204mm Araluen
952mm Batemans Bay
951mm Milton
868mm Moruya Heads
778mm Woodburn State Forest (between Batemans Bay and Ulladulla)
777mm Bodalla
The two highest of these are the highest monthly rainfalls ever
recorded so far south in Australia. (There have been numerous higher
totals in the tropics, and also on the NSW coast and adjacent ranges
from about Taree northward).
With the exception of Bodalla, these are all in a small area of the
coast and adjacent inland, although most other South Coast stations
were in the 400-700 range.
Nearly all the rain fell between the 10th and 28th. Notable daily
totals at Nelligen included 71mm on the 10th, 194mm on the 11th, 37mm
on the 18th, 282mm on the 19th, 214mm on the 26th, 257mm on the 27th
and 105mm on the 28th (storm totals 25th-28th 607mm).
I must admit to being surprised as well that Araluen got one of the
heaviest totals, given that it is inland and reasonably protected,
as Michael says. The annual means bear this out:
Batemans Bay 1009mm
Nelligen 1044mm
Araluen 900mm
Braidwood 740mm (they got 664mm in May 1925)
It must be pretty rare for a monthly total to exceed an annual mean
in a temperate moist climate of this type. (In fact, only 10 out of
80 years of record at Araluen have recorded an ANNUAL total greater
than 1200mm!). Needless to say, it is the wettest month on record at
all of these places (although, as the rest of the year was relatively
dry, the 1925 annual total was a record only at Araluen).
As none of these sites are in particularly favoured locations for
heavy rainfall, judging from the local vegetation (like most who have
lived for long in Canberra, I'm familiar with the Clyde Mountain road),
it's interesting to speculate on what totals might have been achieved
in the wetter areas, like the upper reaches of the Clyde Mountain
escarpment (and even as far inland as the eastern slopes of Mount
Palerang, west of Braidwood). I'd imagine 1500mm would have been topped,
perhaps even 2000. Unfortunately there weren't any gauges there in
1925 (and still aren't as far as I know).
All this must have led to some pretty monumental flooding in the
Shoalhaven, Clyde and Moruya rivers, and if there was a road down
the Clyde Mountain at the start of May (I don't think there was) there
probably wouldn't have been much left of it by the end, but I'll need
to do some more research into this.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:48:09 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: ASWA Logo?
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Hi Matthew and everyone,
I like the #6 logo colour scheme the best. However, is everyone
in agreement with the design? Personally, I am not too keen on
having this design. I would prefer to have something a bit more
dynamic and awe-inspiring.
Please, please, Matthew, do not take this as an personal attack
on the design. What ever the design, I'll go along with what the
majority of ASWA agrees on.
However, having a map of Oz and a "dust devil" on a patch is
uninteresting. We need a high-powered design that will inspire
others to join our association.
Matthew, can you submit a few more designs? Maybe, push
your artistic talent to create a more contemporary design for
the ASWA patch?
Can this be opened up for discussion?
With all respect,
Duane Van Schoonhoven
Paracombe (Adelaide),
South Australia
Matthew Piper wrote:
> Ive created a list of 10 different colour schemes for the proposed ASWA
> logo. Images of the different coloured logos...
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/logo.jpg
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:21:22 -0700
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Subject: aussie-weather: Possible storms for Vic on Friday?
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Hey all. Looks like things could be shaping up for Vic on Friday...Might even
think about heading East towards the Bendigo area.
Paul.
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:43:11 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Paul... Your radio station is very slack at times. For example, they
don't do any 3pm obs at week ends or public holidays so the data from
the Taree AP AWS is used of these occasions.
The 9 am next morning obs at 2RE will give their correct max but the
Telegraph and evening news ets have to use available 3 pm data
Don White
paulmoss wrote:
>
> Don:
> Where does the daily telegraph get its temp readings etc from?
>
> Just wondering because 2 days ago u had our max as 29, when the radio
> station (which is also a BOM data site) had our max at 31?
>
> Thanx.
> Paul - Taree
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Severe T'storm Advice (again!)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:35:08 +1000
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Watch this satellite pic: http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1619 on Wednesday the 27th of January 1999
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:Upper Western
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon and
evening.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing very heavy rainfall and
destructive winds.
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
* put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows
During and after storms people should: * take extreme care when driving
* beware of fallen trees and power lines
* keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away
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James Chambers
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Low temperature at Kalumburu (WA)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:44:49 +1100 (EST)
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Noticed on the WA 0900 bulletin that Kalumburu, on the far northern
tip of WA, recorded a minimum of 17 this morning. If this is correct
(not impossible - there was thunderstorm activity about, which is when
tropical stations tend to record their lowest summer minima), then
it is a new January record for the site (previously 18.4), and the
lowest on record for the months November to March.
With southern WA being very hot overnight (26 at Perth) Kalumburu also
narrowly missed the rare distinction of having the state's lowest
temperature (which was 15 at Forrest).
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: aussie-weather: More on Kalumburu
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On a second look at the last couple of weeks at Kalumburu, all does
not seem to be well - the mean for the last couple of weeks is around
17, which doesn't seem credible.
Blair Trewin
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Hi all. Looks good over much of Victoria for storm activity tomorrow.
Currently there is some large Cu and a Cb cell well to the NNE of here
probably 120-150kms away. todays top in Kilsyth was 28.8c. it is currently
27.5c Dew pt 17c. Bar 1013F. Dane
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At 04:44 PM 27-01-99 +1100, you wrote:
>Noticed on the WA 0900 bulletin that Kalumburu, on the far northern
>tip of WA, recorded a minimum of 17 this morning. If this is correct
>(not impossible - there was thunderstorm activity about, which is when
>tropical stations tend to record their lowest summer minima), then
>it is a new January record for the site (previously 18.4), and the
>lowest on record for the months November to March.
>
>With southern WA being very hot overnight (26 at Perth) Kalumburu also
>narrowly missed the rare distinction of having the state's lowest
>temperature (which was 15 at Forrest).
>
>Blair Trewin
More on the overnight heat in Perth, in decimals the minimum was 25.9C at
6:25am, which makes it Perth's hottest January night for 10 years.
10 years ago back in 1989, Perth City had a string of hot night when the
temperatures failed to go below 27C on four consecutive nights.
20/1/1989 Min Temp: 27.6C
21/1/1989 Min Temp: 27.8C (highest minimum record for January)
22/1/1989 Min Temp: 27.0C
23/1/1989 Min Temp: 27.6C
Be interesting to know what the maximum was during those few days as I dont
have that data.
Jacob
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"The List" is now available - and was kindly converted by Michael Bath &
given a home by him & Jimmy Deguara on their Australian Severe Weather site.
This URL is not linked to any of the public pages on the site, so it is only
available to subscribers of the aussie-weather mailing list.
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/location.htm
Jane
Bayswater
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The press are never happy unless the truth is stretched or even fractured.
I always thought a willy-willy was a revolving column of hot air usually with dust. I have
seen them on the plains 25 miles west of Broken Hill towering up to 1 mile high on a clear
day.
But calling it a tornado in the strict sense of the word is a bit crass, even though some
of the physics is the same...
"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
> /rals jumps up n down looking a delightful shade of beetroot red .. aaarrrrggghh!!!!!!!
>
> ----------
> From: Michael Fewings
> : aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have just seen a news article on the channel 9 news, based
> in Perth, of a "mini tornado" in today that has to take the
> cake.
>
> What it actually was, would you believe, was a willie willie
> or dust devil!
>
> Can you possibly believe that, a mini tornado in blue
> skies!!
>
> I think something might need to be done regarding this. But
> then I thought it was a good laugh.
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Does anyone have any daily rainfall data for Sydney for June 1950, a VERY wet
month?
I only know that the monthly total for Seven Hills that month was 697 millimetres
(I think it exceeded the Bureau's total)
and that there were 5 east coast low pressure systems in the one month copled with
a very high SOI...
Blair Trewin wrote:
> I've done a bit more digging around about this (and intend to do some
> more with a view to writing an AMOS Bulletin article about it).
>
> The highest monthly rainfalls in May 1925 in the South Coast area
> were:
>
> 1271mm Nelligen (about 12km inland from Batemans Bay on the Clyde
> River)
> 1204mm Araluen
> 952mm Batemans Bay
> 951mm Milton
> 868mm Moruya Heads
> 778mm Woodburn State Forest (between Batemans Bay and Ulladulla)
> 777mm Bodalla
>
> The two highest of these are the highest monthly rainfalls ever
> recorded so far south in Australia. (There have been numerous higher
> totals in the tropics, and also on the NSW coast and adjacent ranges
> from about Taree northward).
>
> With the exception of Bodalla, these are all in a small area of the
> coast and adjacent inland, although most other South Coast stations
> were in the 400-700 range.
>
> Nearly all the rain fell between the 10th and 28th. Notable daily
> totals at Nelligen included 71mm on the 10th, 194mm on the 11th, 37mm
> on the 18th, 282mm on the 19th, 214mm on the 26th, 257mm on the 27th
> and 105mm on the 28th (storm totals 25th-28th 607mm).
>
> I must admit to being surprised as well that Araluen got one of the
> heaviest totals, given that it is inland and reasonably protected,
> as Michael says. The annual means bear this out:
>
> Batemans Bay 1009mm
> Nelligen 1044mm
> Araluen 900mm
> Braidwood 740mm (they got 664mm in May 1925)
>
> It must be pretty rare for a monthly total to exceed an annual mean
> in a temperate moist climate of this type. (In fact, only 10 out of
> 80 years of record at Araluen have recorded an ANNUAL total greater
> than 1200mm!). Needless to say, it is the wettest month on record at
> all of these places (although, as the rest of the year was relatively
> dry, the 1925 annual total was a record only at Araluen).
>
> As none of these sites are in particularly favoured locations for
> heavy rainfall, judging from the local vegetation (like most who have
> lived for long in Canberra, I'm familiar with the Clyde Mountain road),
> it's interesting to speculate on what totals might have been achieved
> in the wetter areas, like the upper reaches of the Clyde Mountain
> escarpment (and even as far inland as the eastern slopes of Mount
> Palerang, west of Braidwood). I'd imagine 1500mm would have been topped,
> perhaps even 2000. Unfortunately there weren't any gauges there in
> 1925 (and still aren't as far as I know).
>
> All this must have led to some pretty monumental flooding in the
> Shoalhaven, Clyde and Moruya rivers, and if there was a road down
> the Clyde Mountain at the start of May (I don't think there was) there
> probably wouldn't have been much left of it by the end, but I'll need
> to do some more research into this.
>
> Blair Trewin
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Hi All,
I'm back after chasing a few nurses around the local hospital. Nothing
serious.
Thanks for the list Susan P. It will be a great help keeping track of who is
who. Pity you're the only female in NSW. We will have to do something about
that.
We missed all the rain today that Dubbo received. (As usual). A small
amount of cu at the moment with no action.
At 19.15 ESDT 24C, 1015, 35%, No breeze.
Terry.
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G'day everyone. There is a huge cell to the NE over the ranges. I hope
it stays active for another hour or two because it will give a good
lightning show. The Cu building at the moment in front of the storm are
very crisp so here's hoping.
Chris
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:26:45 +1100
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Hi All,
Just a qucik message before i take off. I'm gunna chase that cell that
chris mentioned. CYAS LATER.
Andrew McDonald.
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The Southern Oscillation Index has gone up by 3 points in the last week
(the 30 day average).
Any bets as to whether coastal NSW will get an even wetter spell than
recently?
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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I can't just sit here and watch it - it looks brilliant and is backbuilding
nicely - I'm going too!!
Heading for Yea if anytone else is going that way. My number is 0411 455
100
See ya later tonight!!
Jane
Bayswater
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At 09:02 AM 25/01/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>Woke at 3am today with torrential rain falling (in Oakhurst, Sydney) -
>17.2mm in about 5 minutes ! No thunder or lightning observed. Did anoyone
>else get heavy falls last night?
>
>regards, Michael
Yeah, i woke at about 1 am or 2am on monday morning with torrential rain
falling for about 10 minutes.
But I was camping at Jervis Bay on the NSW south coast.
I don't have any rainfall measurements of course, but i would estimate
10-20 mm in 10 minutes. I was also half asleep, so the estimates may not be
too good, especially the time estimates.
Ben Munro
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At 08:11 PM 27/01/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Yeah, i woke at about 1 am or 2am on monday morning with torrential rain
>falling for about 10 minutes.
>But I was camping at Jervis Bay on the NSW south coast.
>I don't have any rainfall measurements of course, but i would estimate
>10-20 mm in 10 minutes. I was also half asleep, so the estimates may not be
>too good, especially the time estimates.
>
>Ben Munro
further to that, there was not a single cloud in the sky before i went to
bed, or when i got up in the morning.
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:37:59 +1100
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hehehe,
People love slaming the press hey!
lol
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> From: Keith Barnett
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
> Date: Wednesday, 27 January 1999 19:11
>
> The press are never happy unless the truth is stretched or even
fractured.
> I always thought a willy-willy was a revolving column of hot air usually
with dust. I have
> seen them on the plains 25 miles west of Broken Hill towering up to 1
mile high on a clear
> day.
> But calling it a tornado in the strict sense of the word is a bit crass,
even though some
> of the physics is the same...
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Sorry folks. That last message should have been Thanks for the list Jane and
it's a pity Susan is the only NSW female.
That's what happens when I try to rush through 150 messages.
Terry.
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I guess an F1 tornado is a bit too truthful for a willy willy.
Grant Boyden wrote:
> hehehe,
>
> People love slaming the press hey!
>
> lol
>
> ******************************************
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Thanx Don...yeah that is most definitely the case. I rang and asked
them,.,....and they said : depends whether its raining or not if someone
takes the obs.." hehehe - hey its a country town! BUT Don & Laurier, if you
are looking for rainfall figures during decent falls ( & I will certainly
keep an ear out for u..) the radio station is the best place...they have
10 - 12 people ringing up with fall reports.
Paul.
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>From: Don White
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Wednesday, 27 January 1999 3:48 PM
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Aussie Weather
>
>
>Paul... Your radio station is very slack at times. For example, they
>don't do any 3pm obs at week ends or public holidays so the data from
>the Taree AP AWS is used of these occasions.
>The 9 am next morning obs at 2RE will give their correct max but the
>Telegraph and evening news ets have to use available 3 pm data
>Don White
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Thanks for you hard work in organising.
Michael
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>From: Jane ONeill
>
>"The List" is now available - and was kindly converted by Michael Bath &
>given a home by him & Jimmy Deguara on their Australian Severe Weather
site.
>
>This URL is not linked to any of the public pages on the site, so it is
only
>available to subscribers of the aussie-weather mailing list.
>
>http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/location.htm
>
>Jane
>
>Bayswater
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There were isolated congestus that were merrily drifting in on the moist
onshore flow. Whilst over the sea they maintained longer than you would
expect. For example, I watched late on Sunday evening a congestus cell
drift in from the east all the way from at least 50-100kms out, normally a
single congestus would not live for for so long, but this kept drifting in.
After landfall they fell apart quite quickly. I was surprised that Michael
Bath recorded his heavy shower. It is not the first time I have seen this,
and to think of it as a single congestus may be misleading, perhaps the
heavy precip core outflow was causing a lift of warm moist air thus
maintaining a self propagation cycle.
Any other theories ?
>further to that, there was not a single cloud in the sky before i went to
>bed, or when i got up in the morning.
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Thanks for the information, those figures are rather scary, the Shoalhaven
would have been a sight. I witnessed a flood of the Shoalhaven in August
1974 ( I think ? ) and that was quite sobering. Standing on the Shoalhaven
River bridge, which was closed the traffic and massive tree trunks passing
just feet under you.
The Nelligen figure is really incredible, but there are as you mention some
moist pockets in that Clyde Mountain area. I remember doing a bush walk a
few years ago called the corn trail, the walk finishes at one of the creeks
at the foot of the mountain in the area, I forget it's name, but the
rainforest was a real surprise, coming from the Illawarra I tended to think
that sub tropical type rainforests pretty much dies out south of the
Illawarra, but this patch near Clyde mountain is up there with the best.
There is another patch near Durras Mountain, but facing the oceanfront makes
the temperatures mild there.
Regards
Michael
>
>The highest monthly rainfalls in May 1925 in the South Coast area
>were:
>
>1271mm Nelligen (about 12km inland from Batemans Bay on the Clyde
> River)
>1204mm Araluen
>952mm Batemans Bay
>951mm Milton
>868mm Moruya Heads
>778mm Woodburn State Forest (between Batemans Bay and Ulladulla)
>777mm Bodalla
>
>The two highest of these are the highest monthly rainfalls ever
>recorded so far south in Australia. (There have been numerous higher
>totals in the tropics, and also on the NSW coast and adjacent ranges
>from about Taree northward).
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:40:52 +1100
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Mornin' All,
The Official rainfall for Dubbo's storm yesterday is 29.5mm. I have received
an unofficial report of 50.5mm in two hours at East Dubbo. Two drops (or is
that drips?) at Orange.
Last night the official reading for Orange at around 20.00 Hrs was 18C,
1014, Dewpoint 16C, 97%
The humidity at 97% sound very high for Orange. I did not feel anything like
it. Mine varied between 30 - 40 percent. Can somebody clarify the
sensitivity/accuracy of the Orange AWS?
At 08.30 at Orange 22C, 1013, 42%, No breeze, complete coverage of
cirrostratus.
Terry.
mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Sydney prospects for weekend, or haven't I seen this pattern before.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 21:44:42 +1100
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The current trough system looks like being a carbon copy of the last, well
actually the last never really died properly.
What looks like happening is 2-3 days of storms for inland and tablelands
NSW whilst the trough lingers around.
The trough will then move east, but it will be like the last time, it will
just whiz past Sydney, probably in the early hours when convection will be
at a minimum.
Too far yet to call, but the Hunter Valley option is looking the goods, I
suggest if Friday generates severe storms in southern - central NSW that we
do it.
Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Charleville Severe Thunderstorm
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 20:50:17 +1000
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Hi all
I heard a brief report of thunderstorm wind gusts of at least 120km/h at
Charleville, western Qld. With the LIs around there, they were lucky thats
all they got. More to come over the inland tomorrow.
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James Chambers
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:04:05 +1030
From: Duane Van Schoonhoven [vanscho at ozemail.com.au]
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Hello everyone,
As I look out my backyard, up towards Williamstown (which is
located at the southern end of the Barossa Valley), I am being
treated to a wonderful show of sheet lighting in a few isolated
Cb. Most of the sky is clear except for the Cb and 1 or 2 oktas
of Sc.
I took several photos using a 200mm lens and a tripod. However,
it looks like I need quite a bit more practice to get proficient at
taking lightning photographs.
There is forecast for thunderstorms Adelaide hills tomorrow. :)
Cheers,
Duane Van Schoonhoven
Paracombe (Adelaide),
South Australia
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Subject: Re:aussie-weather:ASWA Logo?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:55:56 +1100
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Howdy People,
The logo I like is #2....but I would like to make a suggestion....Matt, how
about using a modified version of the Aust. Severe Weather Site's
logo?????I'm sure Michael would let you do that.........Wouldn't you
Michael?????????:-)
See Ya's Later from a hot & VERY muggy Ballina!
John
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re:aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:00:51 +1100
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Hey Grant,
Slaming the press is favorite passtime for some people..........as long as
they don't get the shotguns out you'll be right!!!!!!!ha ha ha :-)
Someone's got to do it I suppose...........
See Ya's
John
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 06:04:27 -0600
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
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Good Morning Michael,
Interesting that you should mention tornadoes and 70 degree F temps. It seems
that the majority of significant tornado outbreaks that are associated with
large damaging tornadoes occur in areas where the surface temps are in the 70 to
80 degree F temperature range.
I have not performed a statistical review, but suspect that if one were to plot
the surface temps that existed immediately prior to all tornadoes versus tornado
occurrence at that temperature, a normal curve might result with the center near
75 degrees F.
Surface temps associated with tornadoes vary with season, but when the most
intense jet stream winds are overhead, the surface temps tend to be moderate and
the tornadoes intense. When surface temps rise into the mid-80s and 90s, the
jet stream, at least here in the states, has usually moved north, resulting in
weaker tornadoes.
A U.S. meteorologist named Al Moller devoted his Master's degree thesis to the
seasonal nature of tornado outbreaks in the Great Plains of the U.S. Moller
reported what he called "corridor" outbreaks which occurred under strong jets,
usually in early to mid spring and "cluster" outbreaks where tornadoes occurred
under weaker winds aloft later in the season. If you are interested, I'll see
if I can find his paper and send you a copy.
Due to time limitations, I am unsubscribing, at least temporarily, but will
continue to check the archives from time to time. Please let me know of any big
tornado events or new chase reports that are posted on the web.
Sam Barricklow
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
>
> Interesting, as some of our tornadoes of the Northern Tablelands of NSW have
> occurred in early spring when surface temps are only just into the 70s.
>
> Michael
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:19:43 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all - here's the report, it's certainly very informal, but I find
that sometimes with weather, there's just some things you can't be
formal and 'proper' about.
The model prognosis for the border ranges of SE QLD and NE NSW indicated
a good chance of isolated thunderstorms around the vicinity. With LI's
between -1 and -4, and a 40-60kt jetstream, we were expecting something
nice, but nothing like what we experienced!
I awoke at 7am to see the sky 5/8 overcast, with a mixture of medium
cumulus, cirrocumulus, stratocumulus, and a tiny patch of altocumulus
castellatus. It was already quite warm and humid, at 8am it was 27C
with a DP of 21C. The sky was looking fairly promising, and I was
hoping for something good. Unfortunately, what I was afraid would
happen came true. The cloud began to thicken up, by 9:30am the sky was
filled with medium cumulus and stratocumulus, certainly not what we
wanted for storms!
Ben and Ross picked me up at 10am, we had decided to head towards
Warwick, the satellite pictures and models suggested this would be where
most of the development would occur (within a reasonable chasing
distance.) We had to quickly stop by at Ross's work, and also purchase
some film before we traveled down to Warwick. Fortunately, the general
trend was clearing as we headed SW, and about 30km from Warwick we
observed some rather promising Cb to the WSW. The AM radio had some
very slight static interference, about twice a minute. We arrived in
Warwick just before 1pm; we decided a quick stop in the local library
would be an idea to access the Internet for information. With a very
quick stop for lunch, we decided to head further west, out to near
Inglewood to reach the promising development. During this period, some
congestus started to form to the S, SE and also to the N, and the cells
to the west that had already started precipitating appeared to be
weakening out, with any new developing dying as quick as it shot up.
We were about 20km's out of Warwick when we decided to turn around and
head back to Warwick. Unfortunately, we also had to move back under the
low cloud, which made observations difficult. Wondering whether we
should try our luck heading south, or head north in the hope that the
congestus/TCU would form something nice, we again decided that another
visit to the library was necessary. It was now 3:00pm and we decided
that we'd head north, and then cut in west to observe the congestus/TCU
development. By this time, it had formed a small cell, and had begun
precipitating, no visible lightning or audible thunder could be heard,
however now the AM radio was recording almost continuous static! Very
soon, it began to have an inflow band to the SE, which certainly aroused
my curiosity, but I discounted this as anything major as the model
prognosis certainly did not indicate any rotational storms. We drove
further west to try and get closer to the storm, where a ragged shelf
cloud could be seen. The rain shafts of this cell began to look very
thick and dark, and at this stage it probably contained hail. Ideally,
we wanted to move further north, but there were no sealed roads that
went north, unfortunately to follow the road we were on would lead us
into core punching, and the unsealed road to the south would be muddy
from rain. We decided to head back east, and travel south back to
Warwick and see if we could observe any interesting features behind it,
and follow it north on another road. The storm was moving very slowly
at this stage, so we thought that it shouldn't move very far.
Unfortunately we ran into rain, and when we arrived in Warwick, it had
appeared that they had received some very heavy rain from the fast
flowing water in the gutters along side the road, and massive puddles.
We decided one last trip to the library would be necessary, as there was
too much cloud to observe anything. The cell that we had seen
previously appeared to have moved very quickly north, which was strange
as it originally was moving northeast, like the rest of the storms in
the area. I thought that we should try and head north, towards
Toowoomba in the hope that the storm would last, as it certainly
appeared to still be strengthening. Ross and Ben agreed, and we made a
dash north in a last effort to try and observe a decent thunderstorm
(although the visible features on this storm were already quite good!)
>From behind, the thunderstorm still had very thick and solid rain and
hail shafts, but structurally, there was nothing extraordinary about
it. Although the small section of the anvil that could be seen was very
thick, and fairly crisp. Unfortunately, we could not tell how high the
storm was, but I estimated it to be near 12,000m. We couldn't see the
base very clearly, because of trees and hills. However, I observed a
cloud lowering at the rear of the cell, which kept me wondering. But I
only saw it for five seconds before it went out of sight again for at
least ten minutes; which by then had completely disappeared. At about
5:15pm, it appeared that the storm had weakened a little, as the anvil
appeared to have lost some of its formation, and the general storm
looked a little less organised. We could clearly see the cells about
100km SW of us, which were looking very nice, and even had an overshoot
on them. It was then that I thought maybe we had made the wrong
decision, but we continued to chase this other cell, as by now we were
well over an hour from any other storm activity. Not to mention, the
old 'gut' was saying that something was 'special' about this
thunderstorm.
We had thought that Toowoomba would give a very nice view of the cell,
but it had appeared that the storm had moved NNW - with a WNW 40-60kt
jet!!! Although it did appear that the storm had weakened, with no lack
of static on radio, we decided to head further WNW out past Oakey. As
we finally neared the storm cell, it became apparent that the cell had a
very strong guster, with the rain shafts at a 45-degree angle at times!
As we continued to move WNW, we saw what appeared to be a rain free
base, then as more and more of it was revealed, it began to look
circular, it was rather low, and it had inflow bands from the SW and the
NE! Suddenly we realised it was fully rotating, we could not believe
our luck! In a desperate effort to avoid the rain, we drove towards it
for 1km, before driving parallel with it heading NNW on a small road.
At this stage, we weren't too sure where we were actually heading, we
had only one intention, to follow this storm cell for as long as
possible! It was difficult to try and keep out of the rain, while also
staying well clear of the rain free, rotating base. We certainly did
not want to core punch this beast, and we only wanted to observe a
tornado, not be in one! I had never seen a storm rotate like this
before, the inflow bands were so long! Not to mention it was visibly
rotating (slowly, but none-the-less, rotating!) There was lightning
every few seconds on average, the rain shaft hid most and you could only
see a flash, but there were a few CG's that were observed. Although we
did not see many of them, the ones that we did see were huge, the bolt
was tremendously thick!
Watching the base continue to rotate, I was praying for a funnel cloud
to appear, at about 6:45pm what appeared to be some lower scud began to
form very quickly, within one minute there was a full wall cloud! (I
believe that my heart was beating over 400 times a minute at this time,
it was astonishing at how quickly it formed!) Soon, a small inflow band
on the wall cloud formed, I was dying in suspense, I wanted a funnel to
form, unfortunately, it wasn't to be. But it was so close, that if some
one under the base would have sneezed, one would have formed!
(Metaphorically of course, but it was extremely close!)
By 7pm it began to get dark, and we were running out of sealed roads to
the north, we pondered staying put and waiting for the storm to pass,
but decided to make a dash east to avoid getting caught up in the core
of the storm. The storm continued to move NNW, but because of the lack
of daylight, and also because the rain curtain had now obscured most of
the lightning, we decided to head back home. While heading back to
Brisbane, we noticed the occasional flash of lightning to the south, we
didn't see much, but then again one cannot be greedy!
I myself originally thought that some people went over the top with
storm chasing for so long, and also for hundreds of kilometres. I ate
my own words (along with Ben) as we traveled 650km and we were on the
road for just over eleven hours! But worth every second of it with a
wonderful reward!
I personally believe that this particular thunderstorm was indeed a
supercell, here are the notes that certainly support and are partly
indicative of a supercellular thunderstorm:
� The storm lasted for well over four hours, in fact, at 10pm there was
still lightning in the area. Although it may have been a different
storm, this would be unlikely as there was no other promising
development. If this was the same storm, it would mean this cell lasted
over seven hours!
� It had a sustained rotating updraft - the rotating updraft was visible
for approximately forty-five minutes. Earlier in the afternoon, there
were also inflow bands (which suggest rotation) which would mean over
four hours of rotation!
� The cell was originally moving NE, then N, then it headed NNW! All of
the other storms were moving NE or ENE.
� My SDS (Supercell Deficiency Syndrome) has been cured! :-)
The only data on this storm that I have is that 50mm of rain was
recorded at Oakey from this storm. I'll be contacting the BoM soon to
talk to them about this storm, and see if any of the AWS's recorded
anything interesting.
Anthony Cornelius
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne sorta bust
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:25:00 +1100
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I've just got in making it a 174km, 3 hour bust of sorts. And it looked
like it would go on forever. There was one cell in the centre of it which
was rotating - and I mean the WHOLE cell !!!!!
Beautiful photos of the system - backbuilding around Yea, but it all fell to
pieces once we got within cooee of it. I approached from the S & got some
great shots from Lilydale Cemetary (a 5 shot panorama at 28mm!!!!!) but all
electrical activity died shortly after that. Andrew approached from the W &
encountered rain, frogs and lightning & we met in the main street of Yea,
compared experiences and came back in convoy. Clive took photos of it from
140km to the SW.
This raises the thought, brought home to me tonight whilst driving around
the hills behind Melbourne in the dark with Andrew on my tail, of whether we
should (if we are likely to go and chase) have an emergency contact number
also against our names on the list so that if anything happens.........
Jane
Bayswater
(fast depleting adrenaline stores )
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