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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 28th January 1999

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001 disarm at braenet.com.au                          IRC
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     25/01/99 Thunderstorm Chase Report
003 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          ASWA Logo?
004 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          Some lighter moments!!
005 disarm at braenet.com.au                          Sydney Storm!!(1st since 14 december)
006 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Rainy weather
007 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Aussie Weather
008 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather.
009 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobwe  IRC
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  "The List"
011 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      25/01/99 Thunderstorm Chase Report
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Record low temperatures in Scandinavia
013 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Sydney now
014 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  very heavy rain 25/1
015 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            NSW Storms Today...
016 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Last Nights Ballarat and Geelong chase
017 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Severe Thunderstorm Warning
018 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Severe Thunderstorm Advice
019 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Good report Chris
020 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Record low temperatures in Scandinavia
021 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           "The List"
022 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Melbourne update
023 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]               Admin: Returned mail
024 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Storm??
025 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Melbourne update
026 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Severe Storm Advice - Victoria
027 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Admin: Returned mail
028 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melb Warning
029 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Melb Warning
030 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Cancellation of Warning
031 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Storms
032 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Severe Storm Advice
033 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  ASWA induced list degeneration concerns...
034 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Re: Rainfall obs.
035 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Rainfall obs.
036 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   More storms to come ? Illawarra
037 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Some info about Gerringong storm  23rd Jan 99
038 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Canberra Storm 28/1
039 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Last Nights Ballarat and Geelong chase
040 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Storms approaching
041 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Storms in Western Victoria
042 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Clash of titans
043 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Ideal line of storms
044 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Possible ECL developing?
045 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Sydney Storm!!(1st since 14 december)
046 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Rainfall obs.
047 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]              NSW Storm chasing Fri and sat
048 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              10 Day Precip outlook
049 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   NSW Storm chasing Fri and sat
050 Mark Sherman [jmsherman at compuserve.com]        NSW Storm chasing Fri and sat
051 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Rainfall obs.
052 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Some info about Gerringong storm  23rd Jan 99
053 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            10 Day Precip outlook
054 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Ballarat fires up
055 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Rainfall figure
056 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              Ballarat fires up
057 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            NSW Rain
058 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Ballarat fires up
059 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Ballarat fires up
060 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Ballarat fires up
061 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          satpics???
062 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Mini Tornado
063 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Some info about Gerringong storm  23rd Jan 99

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From: disarm at braenet.com.au
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A funny moment on the IRC meeting tonight:

 I ran over a million frogs tonight while on the road - after it
had rained all these frogs were on the road (i thought it was hail at first).
 it rained frogs?
 so THAT's why it goes green befor hail!

Matt Smith :)

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:30:28 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Rals - lots of photo's, no one had a video cam though :-(  Would have
gotten some great CG's on it if we did!

Anthony

"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
> 
> WOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!  now.. WHY did I have to stay in bed that day? (oh yeah! bad cold!)
> 
> So what kinda photos/video/anything! didya's get??? PWEESE tell me sumwn had a video camera?!
> 
> rals

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:14:40 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: ASWA Logo?
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I agree with the folowing letter sent on by Duane Van Schoonhoven,
> 
> Hi Matthew and everyone,
> 
> I like the #6 logo colour scheme the best. However, is everyone
> in agreement with the design? Personally, I am not too keen on
> having this design. I would prefer to have something a bit more
> dynamic and awe-inspiring.
> 
> Please, please, Matthew, do not take this as an personal attack
> on the design. What ever the design, I'll go along with what the
> majority of ASWA agrees on.
> 
> However, having a map of Oz and a "dust devil" on a patch is
> uninteresting. We need a high-powered design that will inspire
> others to join our association.
> 
> Matthew, can you submit a few more designs? Maybe, push
> your artistic talent to create a more contemporary design for
> the ASWA patch?
> 
> Can this be opened up for discussion?
> 
> With all respect,
> 
> Duane Van Schoonhoven
> Paracombe (Adelaide),
> South Australia

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:45:11 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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For those who dont get on Irc ya should! It not all serious weather ya
know.
Here is some stuff that went on tonight whilst talking about new logos!

the > is when i talk ( Ira Fehlberg )
Briz-wx is James chambers
Chop-wx is Mike Fewings
Hawk-wx is Greg Spencer WA

> we could get Mr Squigggle to do it?
 or have a "mini-tornado" coming out of the supercell
 LOL
 hahaha
 he'll do
 supercell would look good but it would be upside down ira
> LOL
 he always draws the drawings up side down so the guy doing it
can do it
 LOL
> hey, we could all send in unfinished pics with just dots and lines and get him to do up a logo
 lol
* hawk-wx goes to the fridge. who stole me last beer?
> i still reckon mr squiggle should do em, well he and Mr steam shovel, actually did ya see Mr steam shovel isnt on the show anymore, he got picked up and thrown 100m by an F-5 tornado! Miss jane and Mr Squiggle narrowly escaped injury whilst hiding in the rocket ship!!!
 lol ira 
 i think ira stole your beer greg
 and some
 hahaha
 you got me going ira
 i can't stop laughing
 he can give me another on Saturday :-)
 hahaha
 you got me going ira
 is this you Mike
            /\         hehehehe       
           /  \                       
          / /\ \___nn__  ,,_|\_       
      ,--/-/  \____\ \_)=\_o_\\\      
  I'm rolling on the floor laughing my
           a** off��

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Subject: aussie-weather: Sydney Storm!!(1st since 14 december)
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Yes you heard it correct! a Sydney storm!!!
At 3am 2 loud rumbles woke me up and i thought it wasnt true.. until i
somehow put some clothes on and went outside 1/2 asleep and saw 2 flashes
of lightning.. what i could observe in the dark was cloud moving in from
what looked like off the coast,very low stuff, moving considerably fast,
almost like a southerly has come in..
now 3.30am and it seems like its getting stronger!another 6 strikes
confirmed, 2 to my south but all the rest are north (Ryde area?)
Only thing is no thunder as been herad since i woke up...
3.33 and lightning is now getting more frequent with 4-5 stikes a minute to
my north.a bit of thunder heard just then, Anyway ill keep you
informed.cant tell which direction it is heading though, at a guess id say NW
Matt Smith

PS> for those that dont know i bought a new camera yesterday :) Pentax
MZ-50 with a 28-80mm and 100-300mm lense..

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 06:57:12 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Keith - we're due for more rain on east coast - such variations in SOI
are due more to local variations in Darwin / Tahiti and don't really
correlate with rainfall bursts on the NSW coast.
Don White

Keith Barnett wrote:
> 
> The Southern Oscillation Index has gone up by 3 points in the last week
> (the 30 day average).
> Any bets as to whether coastal NSW will get an even wetter spell than
> recently?

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 07:06:01 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Thanks Paul - I'm always after rainfall figures so any you heard - at
any time - please pass on... what about your own figures? Can you "put
them up"
Don White

paulmoss wrote:
> 
> Thanx Don...yeah that is most definitely the case. I rang and asked
> them,.,....and they said : depends whether its raining or not if someone
> takes the obs.." hehehe  - hey its a country town! BUT Don & Laurier, if you
> are looking for rainfall figures during decent falls ( & I will certainly
> keep an ear out for u..) the radio station is the best place...they have
> 10 - 12 people ringing up with fall reports.
> 
> Paul.

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:21:23 +1100
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Hi Nandina,

I'm sticking to chasing tornados/cyclones. Much less hazardous. Chasing
nurses is not as much fun either.
(Although years ago when we used to sneak into the nurses home.) Whoops,
sorry I reminisce to much. As for all the questions I will leave that to
everybody's imagination.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


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>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Nandina
>Morris
>Sent: Friday, 29 January 1999 2:06
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject:
>
>
>I've missed you.  Could always rely on a mail: Orange Weather.  Have a
>folder called Orange just for your mails.    Now for the record - is chasing
>nurses as good as chasing storms?  Criteria for assessment include hazards,
>outcome, equipment required - well, you can guess the rest.
>Anyway - glad you're back.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Nandina
>nandina at alphalink.com.au

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>A funny moment on the IRC meeting tonight:


My client couldn't get on to the austnet server at all last night.  Did
anyone else have this problem?  Has the name of the group been changed?

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:15:00 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> "The List" is now available - and was kindly converted by Michael Bath &
> given a home by him & Jimmy Deguara on their Australian Severe Weather site.
> 
> This URL is not linked to any of the public pages on the site, so it is only
> available to subscribers of the aussie-weather mailing list.
> 
> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/location.htm
> 

Thanks to Jane, Jimmy, MichaelB...

How is it proposed to keep "the list" up to date with minimal overhead
in terms of repeated manual processing? In the longer term, this could
be achieved through a WWW front end of some sort, I suppose.

Michael Scollay

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
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Subject: RE: aussie-weather: 25/01/99 Thunderstorm Chase Report
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:30:08 +-1000
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WOOOOO HOOOOOOOO!!!  now.. WHY did I have to stay in bed that day? (oh yeah! bad cold!)

So what kinda photos/video/anything! didya's get??? PWEESE tell me sumwn had a video camera?!

rals

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>From: 	Anthony Cornelius
>Sent: 	Wednesday, 27 January 1999 22:19
>To: 	Australian Weather Mailing List
>Subject: 	aussie-weather: 25/01/99 Thunderstorm Chase Report
>
>Hi all - here's the report, 
 
>this storm. I'll be contacting the BoM soon to
>talk to them about this storm, and see if any of the AWS's recorded
>anything interesting.
>
>Anthony Cornelius

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aussie-weather: Record low temperatures in Scandinavia
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:24:32 +1100 (EST)
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Not exactly our part of the world, but some exceptionally low
temperatures in northern Scandinavia in the last couple of days;
-51.0 at Ivalo in northern Finland, and -50.7 and -50.3 (can't
remember which way around) at Karasjok and Kautokeino in northern
Norway. This is a new Finnish record, and I suspect may be a new
Norwegian record too, although I haven't seen this confirmed.

I'm trying to get hold of a synoptic chart for the event (not easy
for Europe) - would guess that there is high pressure centred over
extreme NW Russia. 

If you want to see a map with numbers on it that you'll never see
in an Australian forecast, try:

http://www.fmi.fi/SAA/SAA/suomineitu.html

My Finnish isn't too great, but I think the -45 displayed there is
a forecast MAXIMUM! (of course, the diurnal range is very low at this
time of year because there would only be a couple of hours of daylight).

Blair Trewin

(who has been to all three of the places named above, but it was 
about 80 degrees warmer on that occasion!)
 
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Sydney now
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:53:48 +1100
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Storms around sydney now

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm/latest.htm
******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm
http://www.2ky.com.au

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:56:26 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Ben Munro wrote:
> further to that, there was not a single cloud in the sky before i went to
> bed, or when i got up in the morning.
> 

First decent thunder at Lindfield at 0306 spaced at about 30 sec
intervals, this interval decreased to about 10 secs within 15 mins and
then died away by 0345. Only reason I know this is because it woke
No.1 son (Matt) who decided that it was a good idea to wake up mum and
dad to let them know that he was awake also:-) Only 15mm of rain fell
which was about half of what fell yesterday morning in another
isolated "cell".

Michael Scollay

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Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Storms Today...
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:08:15 PST
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Hi Everyone,
keep a watch on the Northern Tablelands, Western and South-West regions 
today as there seems to be a cloud free region which will allow for 
surface heating.  There seems to be a 250Hpa jet maxima just near 
Adelaide and a region of divergence to the east extending up to the 
northern tablelands...
Surface pressure gradients seem to be fairly weak, but with the upper 
level wind there may be some active storms cells around later...

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From: "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Last Nights Ballarat and Geelong chase
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:15:55 PST
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I watched the magnificent cell to the NE last night DITA (die in the 
arse) once the sun went down, giving only a few CC flashes of lightning, 
up at Doncaster. Although I wasn't happy that it died (although probably 
happier than Jane and Andrew :-)) it did wet my appetite.

About 11pm I checked out the Foxtel satellite, which although not great 
for cloud cover, certainly shows a cell when it pops up and it is 
updated hourly. The 10pm picture had a huge cell over about Horsham in 
western Vic. I decided to wait until the 11pm photo, which comes in at 
11.20 or so, just to make sure it wasn't dying. The photo showed that if 
anything it had become bigger and was moving SE.

I set off from Nth Balwyn 5 mins later and made my way towards Ballarat 
along the Western Hwy. About halfway, I started to see occasional 
flashes, which at first I thought I imagined, to the WSW. As usual on 
the drive to Ballarat at night there was low cloud over the hills so I 
was left to guess whether this new (I assume) cell was going to go off 
or whether I'd have to drive to Horsham.

About the time I got to Ballarat the low cloud cleared and I was treated 
to an enormous flash to the SW. The long drive to Horsham was 
immediately abandoned and I looked for a signpost to Geelong (about 70km 
due south). In the City Centre I finally found a road that went there, 
the A300. After meandering through the suburbs, the road flattened out 
then went up this hill in the middle of nowhere. By this time there was 
lightning every two seconds spread over three different towers of the 
storm, similar in set up to the earlier Melb. cell and I was hoping that 
this hill had a place to pull over. At the very top there was a slight 
area to the side which was perfect. The view was incredible, now that I 
wasn't concentrating on driving I realised, how much the lightning was 
going off. There were magnificent blue, white and green CCs and plenty 
of CGs mixed in as well. The clouds were enormous and you could see the 
lightning trace through from top to bottom illuminating the whole cell.

After a while watching this, I decided to get a bit closer and get soime 
photos. However, once again the low cloud came in and my view was 
obstructed. I thought as I got closer to Geelong that these clouds would 
nick off but that wasn't the case. The lightning was quite vivid and it 
was eerie looking at it through, basically, fog (I think Michael 
Thompson had this experience on one of his chases). I got to Geelong 
eventually, not in the best of moods, and decided to head back along the 
Princes Fwy towards Melbourne. I got to the Little River turnoff and 
realised that the sky above me was quite clear. I found a dark road away 
from traffic and turned the car to face SW. Although not a great view 
the lightning was still clearly visible. It had decreased in intensity 
aby about 30% but was still quite spectacular. I watched this for about 
30 mins then decided that if I'm going to chase or go to Mt Dandenong 
Thursday night I better get home. I got home at 3.45am and looked out to 
the SSW from my balcony and I could still see lightning at fairly 
regular intervals. Total distance travelled about 260kms.

This was more a chase to see lightning rather than get too close to the 
storm to see whether anything exciting was happening underneath it. In 
my experience, blue and green lightning, esp. green,  shows that the 
storm is severe and also that hail was probable in this storm. The cloud 
tops were certainly high enough and the storm certainlt maintained 
itself for a few hours.

Good luck chasing tonight to all on the list, it looks as though the 
entire South and East coast could get some action this evening. I'll see 
the Melbournian ASWA chapter up on Mt Dandenong.

An addition to the list, my phone no. is  (03) 9859-1750

Chris, owner of the alledgedly red Sigma

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From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Thunderstorm Warning, Sydney...
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:31:39 PST
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Sydney Metropolitan:
Severe thunderstorm warning is current for very heavy rain and local
flooding.

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From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Thunderstorm Advice, SA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:56:39 PST
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PRIORITY - FOR BROADCAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Bureau of Meteorology Adelaide
Issued at 12.05 pm on  Thursday, 28/01/99
For people in the Northeast Pastoral, Riverland, Murraylands, Upper
South East and Lower South East and the Northern Agricultural
District east of a line Hawker to Clare for this afternoon.

Severe winds are possible with thunderstorms in the above districts
during this afternoon.
Heavy rainfall and localised flooding is possible in the Riverland.
Murraylands, and the Upper and Lower South East.

Localised damage is possible and people are advised to take
precautions such as secure loose outside objects, and avoid entering
water of unknown depth.

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Good report Chris
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:23 +1100
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Good report Chris, glad to see you were rewarded with some action, may see
you up at Mt Dandy if it goes off later. Current Kilsyth obs time 1.40pm.
Temp 28c Dew pt 17c Bar 1011F. Some large Cu especially to the ENE some
faint crackles on am radio nothing really going off at the moment though.
If anything developes I will take a digital pic and send it anyone who is
interested. Dane 

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aussie-weather: Record low temperatures in Scandinavia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:40:29 +1100
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Brrrrrrrrr.
And people have got the hide to say Oberon/Orange are cold.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Blair Trewin
>Sent: Thursday, 28 January 1999 10:25
>To: Aussie Weather
>Subject: 
>
>
>Not exactly our part of the world, but some exceptionally low
>temperatures in northern Scandinavia in the last couple of days;
>-51.0 at Ivalo in northern Finland, and -50.7 and -50.3 (can't
>remember which way around) at Karasjok and Kautokeino in northern
>Norway. This is a new Finnish record, and I suspect may be a new
>Norwegian record too, although I haven't seen this confirmed.
>
>My Finnish isn't too great, but I think the -45 displayed there is
>a forecast MAXIMUM! (of course, the diurnal range is very low at this
>time of year because there would only be a couple of hours of daylight).
>
>Blair Trewin

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: "The List"
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:45:44 +1100
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I'm updating "The List" as changes and additions come in, and now Michael
has put it up as html, I can simply plug in the new copy, send it to Michael
as html and he can ftp it when he does any other update to the site.  That's
my suggestion.  All others welcome (also being shouted down is ok ).

Jane
Bayswater

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Hi everyone. Just went up to Doncaster S'town to see what was around. 
There is a Cb over about Ballarat/Ararat to the WNW. There is also 
plenty of build up over the ranges particularly over Lake Mountain/ Mt 
Donna Buang. It is very humid (for Melbourne) today and things look 
about 2 hours more advanced than this time yesterday so hopefully we get 
some action and that the storms don't DITA (die in the arse for the 
uninitiated) around sunset again. 

See you Melbournites up at Mt Dandenong, 7pm as I recall.

Chris

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:59:15 -0500
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I've been getting quite a lot of it from the list latley and have pasted
it at 

	http://world.std.com/~dhart/aussie-weather/bounce.txt

might want to tak a look at it to see if there is any there that you
should have gotten.


-dkh-

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Storm??
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:08:40 +1100
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Big storm building up with slow moving very dark stratocumulus cloud in the
NW at the moment much thunder & lightning.
It looks like they will cop it around Wellington/Dubbo. We may get the edge.
 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne update
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> 
> 
> Hi everyone. Just went up to Doncaster S'town to see what was around. 
> There is a Cb over about Ballarat/Ararat to the WNW. There is also 
> plenty of build up over the ranges particularly over Lake Mountain/ Mt 
> Donna Buang. It is very humid (for Melbourne) today and things look 
> about 2 hours more advanced than this time yesterday so hopefully we get 
> some action and that the storms don't DITA (die in the arse for the 
> uninitiated) around sunset again. 
> 
> See you Melbournites up at Mt Dandenong, 7pm as I recall.
> 
> Chris
The latest radar suggests that things are firing up beautifully - a
near-continuous line from Portland to Renmark (SA), and more isolated
cells in the vicinity of Ballarat and Hamilton.

Not surprisingly, a severe thunderstorm advice has been issued for
a wide range of districts - basically the entire state except for
Gippsland and the northeast.

Blair Trewin

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From: "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Storm Advice - Victoria
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Severe T'storm advice issued 40 mins ago covering the western 2/3 of the 
state as well as a T'storm warning for Melbourne due to that cell to the 
NW. Wouldn't surprise me if the advice ends up covering the whole state 
judging by the convection to the east

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:10:48 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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David Hart wrote:
> 
> I've been getting quite a lot of it from the list latley and have pasted
> it at
> 
>         http://world.std.com/~dhart/aussie-weather/bounce.txt
> 
> might want to tak a look at it to see if there is any there that you
> should have gotten.
> 
> -dkh-

Thanks Dave. This sort of service is almost "beyond the call of duty".
On behalf of the list, your extra effort is greatly appreciated.

Michael Scollay

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melb Warning
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:41:59 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
Priority
Severe Thunderstorm Warningfor the Melbourne metropolitan area
Issued at 1542 on Thursday the 28th of January 1999
Severe thunderstorms are being monitored on radar some 50 kilometres west
and
northwest of Melbourne and moving east to southeastwards about 20 kph. They
arelikely to move into the
outer western and northern suburban area within the nexthour. Flash flooding
is
expected and hail and severe wind gusts are possible. This warning will be
updated at 5.30pm and should not be broadcast after that
time.

Jane
Bayswater

Andrew has deployed himself halfway between Yea and Kilmore and is waiting
and watching.

Meet all of the rest of you up the mountain 7pm ish

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melb Warning
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> 
> 
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
> Priority
> Severe Thunderstorm Warningfor the Melbourne metropolitan area
> Issued at 1542 on Thursday the 28th of January 1999
> Severe thunderstorms are being monitored on radar some 50 kilometres west
> and
> northwest of Melbourne and moving east to southeastwards about 20 kph. They
> arelikely to move into the
> outer western and northern suburban area within the nexthour. Flash flooding
> is
> expected and hail and severe wind gusts are possible. This warning will be
> updated at 5.30pm and should not be broadcast after that
> time.
So far the cell seems to be staying north of Melbourne - out beyond
Whittlesea. Not much else around at the moment in the Melbourne area,
but the western Victorian band is moving steadily eastward, and its
southern end is intensifying with large areas above 100 mm/hr.
> Jane
> Bayswater
> 
> Andrew has deployed himself halfway between Yea and Kilmore and is waiting
> and watching.
Good place to be, for this cell at least. 
> Meet all of the rest of you up the mountain 7pm ish
I plan to be there, perhaps a little late - assuming it's not raining,
will be recognisable by the 'Climatology - Hasta La Nina, Baby' 
T-shirt.

Blair Trewin

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Cancellation of Warning
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:09:50 +1100
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See Weather Words to find out what the weather terms mean. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------



IDW10V01

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Cancellation
Severe Thunderstorm Warning

for the Melbourne metropolitan area

Issued at 1645 on Thursday the 28th of January 1999  

Thunderstorms on the northern outskirts of the metropolitan area have now
weakened and moved away to the north.  Other severe storms over western
Victoria
are being monitored but are not an immediate threat to the greater
melbourne
area.  

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:14:07 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Some good storm bands around the place. Storms between Bathurst and
Guoulburn peaking at > 100 mm / hr either stationery or prop. to SSE.ar
5 pm. Very heavy rain in sydney suburbs around midday today - Guildford
45 mm is 30 minutes, 28 mm at Bansktown. Heavy falls of 15 mm in 5
minutes on north Shore (East Killara)
It looks like Meloburne's turn again tonight
Don White

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Storm Advice
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:20:22 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE


NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Advice

Issued at 1700 on Thursday the 28th of January 1999 for the entire state of
Victoria. 

At 4.45pm, Severe thunderstorms were occurring along a solid line from just
west
of Mildura, south through Horsham to near Warrnambool. Other isolated
severe
storms are evident on the North Central and Northeast ranges and in West
Gippsland. 

The broad line over the west of the state is likely to move slowly east and
continue to produce severe weather into the evening. More localised severe
storms will occur east of this line.   

People in these areas are warned that thunderstorms are likely to produce
heavy
rain and may also produce hail and damaging winds. 

This advice should not be used after 11pm Thursday 28th January.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:31:51 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Nandina Morris wrote:
> 
[snip unrelated text]
>
> Now, 1 more thing.  A concern I have.  Is there any likeihood that 
> as the development of ASWA branches grows, and the branches become 
> stronger, this list will degenerate, with most of the interaction 
> occurring through other channels?  I certainly hope not, but got a 
> niggling worry about it.
> 
> Better stop - once I get going ------
>
Nandina, you are right to raise this issue and please don't stop
because the sustained operation of both ASWA and "the list" is
critical to the mutual success of both.

If I may air a personal view...ASWA came into being as a formal
organisational idea because of "the list" which in turn can only exist
in this nature because of the internet media; in the sense of the
internet being a specific communication media. Further, the internet
by its very history and nature, is autonomous and pervasive while
becoming ubiquitous and egalitarian each day it exists into the
future. This is important to remember. 

ASWA (when it happens for real) actually formalises a desired aspect
of "the list". That is, a desire for some to move out of the autonomy
that "the list" offers. That doesn't, in my view, remove any "power"
from "the list" at all. To the contrary, such formal existance gives
more credibility and focus to that aspect of "the list". This is
something that many other internet lists lack with the end result that
their members become bored, leave and old topics are regurgitated time
and again.

So it is important that ASWA exists together with "the list" and "the
web", because with the help of its WWW front-end (evolving from
australiansevereweather) with additional ASWA funding, some more
services can be added such as training modules and specialised
facilities that will attract new membership to both "the list" and
potentially ASWA. This can also help "the list" from going over too
much old territory each time a new member is added. That's important
for keeping the old-timers interested rather than falling asleep with
their finger on the  key.

If there is a danger from "other channels" or "other branches"
diverting interests, this would only occur when the people involved,
for some reason or another consider that other groups or people would
not be interested or could possibly contribute. Our chosen subject,
"aussie-weather" with an emphasis on severe weather, by its very
nature, observes no human-made boundaries and so political or
organisational boundaries are irrelevant to the subject. These exist
purely to our meet human needs, not the weather. This is why the
internet is such an important media and why it is proving so
successful at bringing people together with a common interest. I see
other channels and branches bringing a greater scope, coverage and
sustainability to the entire subject.

If you doubt how good is the choice of the internet as the chosen
media for uniting a common interest in severe weather, consider what
you would do when that next tornadic supercell, observing no state
boundaries, calves a path of destruction across those very state
boundaries. If people arn't madly typing "Tornadic Supercell heading
for..." all over aussie-weather, I'd be sending an "unsubscribe
aussie-weather" given the first opportunity. I don't think that will
happen while people with a genuine interest in the subject mainly
populate "the list".

Michael Scollay

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Re: Rainfall obs.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:36:04 +1100
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Hey Don. I certainly will put up the figures when I get some!

And today was the day! We had very heavy rain this morning between 3am - 7am
receiving a total of 30mm in that time. My weatherlink prog showed that at
the height of the heavy rain we were receiving 2mm per min, making that a
120mm per hour rate - which is reasonably heavy! During the day we have now
had 27.6mm taking the total for 3am - 3pm today to 57.6mm - our largest fall
all month with heavy falls predicted tonight. Our monthly total now stands
at 138mm, which means we are now above average for this month - JUST. Looks
likely that even heavier falls tonight, so will keep u informed.

Paul from a wet Mitchells Island

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Rainfall obs.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:47:59 +1100
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Some good falls around that state today: anyone know where this METARS comes
from? MNI?

METARAWS YMNI 0600Z 10019G22KT //// 19.0/18.6 Q1010.4 RMK      RF04.0/120.8

Note the very alst figure.... 120.4 mm ...thats a great fall? Maybe this is
Milton on the south Coast? any ideas?

Paul

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: More storms to come ? Illawarra
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:53:41 +1100
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At present there is a small break in the escarpment Cu and there is sky blue
anvil, must be a hell of a storm out near Goulburn.

A visual observation on the pushbike home has led me to believe that there
appears 2 distinct cloud patterns working at present. Over the ocean we have
tall congestus which is running parallel to the coast, these are located
about 50 kms SE and are growing into Cb as they get further down the coast.
Towards Jervis Bay they look quite impressive. As the reach Cb stage they
appear to be shearing towards the SE. In fact the middle layer stuff is all
heading SE. This means that we may get something from that large anvil mass
after all, here's hopeing.

By the way there was some heavy rain around 8am this morning in this area,
from the N/NE. I got drench on the pushy.

The whole situation reminds me of last Saturday night !

More of that in the next message.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Some info about Gerringong storm  23rd Jan 99
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 17:57:57 +1100
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The local paper mentioned that several homes in the Sandy Wha estate at
Gerringong were flooded. The paper also states that approx 200mm fell, no
idea whose rain gauge.

>From Shellharbour and my observation it appeared that the back end of the
storm was indeed over that area for at least 2 hours on Saturday night. It
was electrically very active. Unfortunately I was at a party.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Canberra Storm 28/1
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:08:13 PST
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Canberra is currently 6.00pm experiencing a storm. It arrived from SE
at around 5.00pm. Some impressive base lowerings and 
shelf clouds during initial stages. Otherwise storm's most notable
feature is the heavy rain which it brought as precipitation commenced.

Weather now has settled to a period of moderate rain.

Visibility restricted during day by low level cu and stratus so 
can't comment on cells further afield.

Patrick

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Last Nights Ballarat and Geelong chase
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:23:22 +1100
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I have had this experince at Robertson on the Illawarra escarpment a couple
of times now, not so much fog as low cloud with visibility down 100-200
metres. The Illawarra escarpment at Robertson goes from sea level to around
700m.

Great chase report too, hope we get a turn tonight here,

Michael

>was eerie looking at it through, basically, fog (I think Michael
>Thompson had this experience on one of his chases). I got to Geelong

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Storms approaching 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:33:41 +1100
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A line of Thunderstorms currently about 100kms west of Melbourne are moving
east. I am off to Mt Dandenong to Check out the scene. Hope to see a few
other Melbourne weather watchers up there. Dane  

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:39:28 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Storms in Western Victoria
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Hi everyone.

Jimmy here. Just read all the e-mails. Great to see action happening. 

I am quite interested in the action in Western Victoria as it reminds me of
the ideal north south line situation. In early 1997, there was a supercell
with a similar line in the same area and this was most probably F3 in
strength. This line also occurred in November 10th 1997 although I don't
know what happened with that lot. I hope Paul Yole is after these cells
from the rear end. He has all the choice in the world and a great road
network. It would be great to see what the weather conditions are like.

See what happened.

Sultry stinking humidity here in Sydney. I mean in the goos sense.

Jimmy Deguara
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Clash of titans
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:48:40 +1100
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Well I could not think of another title.

The area of dark anvil has now filled the entire western sky, but has not
really got any closer. Unfortunately the affect so far has been to bully
aside the promising coastal action congestus. It is looking very lame E and
NE.

Probably should get a lightning show from the western stuff, but I am in two
minds whether it will move further east than it is now.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:35:37 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Ideal line of storms
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Hi Jimmy here again,

I have loaded a satpic which I think shows an interesting storm developing
in west Victoria. Check out the arrow pointing to the correct storm

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/satstorm.jpg

Enjoy..

Jimmy Deguara
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from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Possible ECL developing?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:40:51 +1100
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Hey all. The weather here now has turned real funny. Wind is picking up in
intensity from the NE, and it feels almost like an ECL starting off. I
realise that there is a Low over head (as described by Nat Jeffreys on NBN
weather tonight) which is causing the mid level & upper level disturbance -
but what is the chances that this instability to form a ECL say off Taree /
Coffs harbour Costal areas? Wind is quite sharp when reaching maximum
gusts..........could be something or could be nothing? What do other people
think?

Paul

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:53:48 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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There were storms in the Seven Hills Blacktown area from 3.30 to 4 am today
(28th).
Extensive low cloud moving from the southeast. At 7.30 am there was high cloud
moving from the northwest across Sydney but there were massive cumulus congestus
columns just off the coast moving from the northeast so I'd say the storms moved
roughly southward and dissipated rapidly. Only 5.6 mm of rain all night.

disarm at braenet.com.au wrote:

> Yes you heard it correct! a Sydney storm!!!
> At 3am 2 loud rumbles woke me up and i thought it wasnt true.. until i
> somehow put some clothes on and went outside 1/2 asleep and saw 2 flashes
> of lightning.. what i could observe in the dark was cloud moving in from
> what looked like off the coast,very low stuff, moving considerably fast,
> almost like a southerly has come in..
> now 3.30am and it seems like its getting stronger!another 6 strikes
> confirmed, 2 to my south but all the rest are north (Ryde area?)
> Only thing is no thunder as been herad since i woke up...
> 3.33 and lightning is now getting more frequent with 4-5 stikes a minute to
> my north.a bit of thunder heard just then, Anyway ill keep you
> informed.cant tell which direction it is heading though, at a guess id say NW
> Matt Smith
>
> PS> for those that dont know i bought a new camera yesterday :) Pentax
> MZ-50 with a 28-80mm and 100-300mm lense..

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Thanx Greg! Strange though......I always thought the Y stood for an airport
AWS though.

Paul.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 01:41:44 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Storm chasing Fri and sat
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Hi all. 


The way things are shaping up, Friday might be ok around Sydney, maybe
better in the Hunter.  The 200mb jet level seems to have something in
it over these areas as well. 

As for Saturday, I think Michael T pointed to this a few days ago:
Perhaps we could, very tentatively, plan a chase probably to the area
around 4 hours west of Sydney. Going by AVN, Saturday looks very
promising around the Forbes region in the central west of NSW -  Lis
within the -8 contour and a 90-100knot jetstream which would be very
favourable for strong/severe storms. The bureau have the front going
through that area a bit too early for my liking (thats probably what
will happen) so I guess we'll see. This is also the case for Vic
tomorrow: the BoM have Bendigo on the wrong side of the trough early
on in the day while the AVN I just looked at (for 5pm) has Lis way
down around -7 for that area so it will be interesting to see what
actually happens so far as us gauging Sat..


David

PS   I hope Paul Yole chased his own backyard area of Victoria this
afternoon as that corner was probably the area where conditions may
have given supercells a chance to develop.

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: 10 Day Precip outlook
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Hey all. Well for us Eastcoasters in NSW looks like it may be a very wet
next 10 days according to the US cola models. the 10 day % is for some
places up to 600% of normal...which is very interesting. What normal is I
dont know (for eg it may only be 10mm ! hehehe) but certainly looks very
promising rain wise. May be some flooding along the coast.What do you think
Laurier / Don?

Paul.

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Just about everybody now has the front going thru way too early, late Friday
in many areas. I dare say its the same system that is tearing thru Victoria
at present, and it is no slouch. Saturday now looks like a poor prospect
anywhere within 6-8 hours of Sydney.

Friday on the other hand has become a lot more interesting, I will be
placing my hopes in the Goulburn - Bowral - Picton area.

The level of cloud will be a worry, the storms on the ranges west of
Wolloongong are dieing rapidly and already the coastal rubbish is once again
building. I would not mind betting that Sydney and Illawarra chasers are
woken by thunder again in the wee hours. Ijust hope some clearing occurs mid
morning, although it is highly unlikely.

Michael


>
>The way things are shaping up, Friday might be ok around Sydney, maybe
>better in the Hunter.  The 200mb jet level seems to have something in
>it over these areas as well.
>
>As for Saturday, I think Michael T pointed to this a few days ago:
>Perhaps we could, very tentatively, plan a chase probably to the area
>around 4 hours west of Sydney. Going by AVN, Saturday looks very
>promising around the Forbes region in the central west of NSW -  Lis
>within the -8 contour and a 90-100knot jetstream which would be very
>favourable for strong/severe storms. The bureau have the front going
>through that area a bit too early for my liking (thats probably what
>will happen) so I guess we'll see. This is also the case for Vic
>tomorrow: the BoM have Bendigo on the wrong side of the trough early
>on in the day while the AVN I just looked at (for 5pm) has Lis way
>down around -7 for that area so it will be interesting to see what
>actually happens so far as us gauging Sat..
>
>
>David
>
>PS   I hope Paul Yole chased his own backyard area of Victoria this
>afternoon as that corner was probably the area where conditions may
>have given supercells a chance to develop.

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 05:47:15 -0500
From: Mark Sherman [jmsherman at compuserve.com]
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One hope that we get a good run of storms.
This season has been quite to date.
I will be once again out and about on the weekend.

Regards
Mark Sherman

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:51:36 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Montague Island ?
don W

paulmoss wrote:
> 
> Some good falls around that state today: anyone know where this METARS comes
> from? MNI?
> 
> METARAWS YMNI 0600Z 10019G22KT //// 19.0/18.6 Q1010.4 RMK      RF04.0/120.8
> 
> Note the very alst figure.... 120.4 mm ...thats a great fall? Maybe this is
> Milton on the south Coast? any ideas?
> 
> Paul

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:53:11 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Michael....
When was the 200 mm suppose to have fallen ?
Which paper quoted it ?
Don White

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> The local paper mentioned that several homes in the Sandy Wha estate at
> Gerringong were flooded. The paper also states that approx 200mm fell, no
> idea whose rain gauge.
> 
> >From Shellharbour and my observation it appeared that the back end of the
> storm was indeed over that area for at least 2 hours on Saturday night. It
> was electrically very active. Unfortunately I was at a party.
> 
> Michael Thompson
> http://thunder.simplenet.com

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 21:59:48 +1100
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Paul...
Potential is there for anything. The cola is quite interesting as past
performance often not far from the mark in these situations. Here's
hoping for interesting weather... keep those rainfall figures coming in
(esp a 24 hrs to 9am figure)
Don W

paulmoss wrote:
> 
> Hey all. Well for us Eastcoasters in NSW looks like it may be a very wet
> next 10 days according to the US cola models. the 10 day % is for some
> places up to 600% of normal...which is very interesting. What normal is I
> dont know (for eg it may only be 10mm ! hehehe) but certainly looks very
> promising rain wise. May be some flooding along the coast.What do you think
> Laurier / Don?
> 
> Paul.

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Everyone on the list,

There was a funnel cloud reported at or near Ballarat!  More information
should come in tomorrow or later tonight.

I received this report from Jane and company on Mt Dandenong. They are
having a ball and are video taping and photographing a lightning show.
Great stuff.

Jimmy Deguara
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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Don - will do!
Cheers.

Paul

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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There ya go Jimmy! Sydney can now finally claim the  most hapless storm
chasing centre in Australia

Paul.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jimmy Deguara 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Thursday, 28 January 1999 10:06 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Ballarat fires up
>
>
>Everyone on the list,
>
>There was a funnel cloud reported at or near Ballarat!  More information
>should come in tomorrow or later tonight.
>
>I received this report from Jane and company on Mt Dandenong. They are
>having a ball and are video taping and photographing a lightning show.
>Great stuff.
>
>Jimmy Deguara

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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 22:12:16 +1100
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Anyone checked out what is happening on the NSW south coast tonight. 
Moruya heads reported 88 mm 9am to 3 pm and a further 112 mm to 9 pm
while Montage is had 98 and 94 mm respectively.
Is the highway closed at Bodalla - a news report indicated problems
there? Also useful storms reported around the state. In 6 hours to 9pm
Canberra 19, Nyngan 20, Mudgee 28 and Cooma 23mm
Don W.

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I am interested in seeing if turther west there was some even better action
near Hamilton. Will see tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised if there may have
been a tornado in that region. the satpic was really looking ominous.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:09 PM 1/28/99 +1100, you wrote:
>There ya go Jimmy! Sydney can now finally claim the  most hapless storm
>chasing centre in Australia
>
>Paul.

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I don't think so and I will wait to see if is to be confirmed as a real
funnel report but that area is no stanger to that sort of activity.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:20 PM 1/28/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>Jimmy this is great to hear, hopefully there is some footage/photo of some
>kind of it, who spotted it, someone from the list chasing the storm?
>
>Matt Smith

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Hi

Jimmy this is great to hear, hopefully there is some footage/photo of some
kind of it, who spotted it, someone from the list chasing the storm?

Matt Smith
>Everyone on the list,
>
>There was a funnel cloud reported at or near Ballarat!  More information
>should come in tomorrow or later tonight.
>
>I received this report from Jane and company on Mt Dandenong. They are
>having a ball and are video taping and photographing a lightning show.
>Great stuff.
>
>Jimmy Deguara

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If anyone on the list have the satpics from the following site in their
cache (Netscape) or (temporary internet files windows directory) for
Internet Explorer, could you please save all of them. Somebody kust have
the satpics if they have been looking at the net this evening and looked at
the satpics like the one I showed you.

http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg

If you do have them say for the late afternoon to around 9:30pm, then
please save them. If not, I can look up another archived site. I will do
that now.

Jimmy Deguara
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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----------
> From: John  Graham 
> To: Aussie Weather 
> Subject: Re:aussie-weather: Mini Tornado
> Date: Wednesday, 27 January 1999 23:00
> 
> Hey Grant,
> 
> Slaming the press is favorite passtime for some people..........as long
as
> they don't get the shotguns out you'll be right!!!!!!!ha ha ha :-)
> Someone's got to do it I suppose...........
> See Ya's
> John


Hehehe,

When in doubt SLAM the press.

hehehe

Np see yu

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Grant Boyden

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Some info about Gerringong storm  23rd Jan 99
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Hi don

This was out the Lake Times Wednesday Jan 27th, a weekly paper down here in
the southern Illawarra. The vent occurred sometime on Saturday night 23rd
January 1998. There was no doubt about a storm in the area, the lightning I
saw was quite constant.

Parts of the article are below.....

" A wall of water, three quarters of a metre deep, swept into the back of
John and Kim Sultana's new home at Gerringong late Saturday night. Theirs
was probably the worst affected of several homes in Gerringong's Sandy Wha
estate to have a deluge of water pour through doors and ventilation points
to flood their floors. Home owners were left desperately trying to lift
furniture and other valuables above the water..................Close to 200
mm of rain fell in the Gerringong are a that night, mostly between the hours
of 11.30pm and 2am Sunday morning. A storm centre with thunder and lightning
seemed to centre on Gerringong for those hours........"

If you need to contact the paper their E Mail is

lteditor at magna.com.au

Michael

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>Date: Thursday, 28 January 1999 21:52
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Some info about Gerringong storm 23rd Jan 99
>
>
>Michael....
>When was the 200 mm suppose to have fallen ?
>Which paper quoted it ?
>Don White

Document: 990128.htm
Updated: 5th February, 1999

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