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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 15th February 1999

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001 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        A few records for high minimum temperatures
002 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Nov BoM weather summary is up
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Another Dangerous swell running - NSW
004 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  radar image-cyclone Rona
005 disarm at braenet.com.au                          Sydney Tomorrow
006 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       radar image-cyclone Rona
007 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                Sydney Tomorrow
008 Doug [toejoe at tpg.com.au]                       Raining
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  radar image-cyclone Rona
010 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Sydney Tomorrow
011 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Sydney Tomorrow
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Another Dangerous swell running - NSW
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Post in US newsgroup - Cyclone Rona
014 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Eclipse
015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sydney Tomorrow
016 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           "The List" & contact details
017 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Canberra Conditions 15/2/99
018 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       Tuesdays Chase

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001

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: A few records for high minimum temperatures
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:54:50 +1100 (EST)
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A few records (or near-records) for high minimum temperatures that
have popped up recently:

- Melbourne this morning recorded its ninth 20+ minimum this month.
This is a record for a single month (beating 8 in February 1968 and
January 1981). Not bad when it's only the 15th! The record for a summer 
is 21 set in 1980-81 (the 1998-99 summer total is currently somewhere
between 12 and 14, depending on which side of 20 a couple of January
mins which were 20 to the nearest degree fall).

- there have been 5 consecutive 20+ minima in Melbourne. This is the
  longest such run beginning in February. Taking all months, there has
  been one run of 6 (16-21 January 1908) and three others of 5 
  (9-13 March 1934, 28 January-1 February 1974, 14-18 January 1981).

- there have been 5 consecutive minima exceeding 17.5 in Hobart (I
  only have rounded figures at the moment, so 18 rounded to the 
  nearest degree must be at least 17.6). This is a record for any
  month (previously 4, 13-16 February 1995). 

Hobart is on course to break its record for highest mean minimum for
a month (14.8, February 1972) by a substantial margin - it's currently
on 16.5, so an average of even 13 for the rest of the month would be
enough. Melbourne's mean for the month is currently 19.2, marginally
ahead of the 1997 record of 18.8, but probably not by enough to stay
above it unless there is another heatwave.

Blair Trewin

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002

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nov BoM weather summary is up
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:27:37 +1100 (EST)
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> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> The BoM significant weather summary for November is up:
> 
> 
> http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw1198.shtml
as is December (substitute sigw1298.shtml). In general the significant
weather summaries come out 4-5 weeks after the end of the month.

Blair Trewin

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003

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:53:05 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Dangerous swell running - NSW
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[snip thread]

I've taken video at Dee Why (Sydney Northern Beaches) on Saturday
evening (13/2/1999) of waves peaking at between 6m and 8m before
engulfing surf board riders. There was, at times, a considerable surf
operating in the pool that at one time washed a child away in the
kiddies pool unawares to his parents. I was lucky enough to see the
next and larger wave coming with enough time to pluck the child from
the water before he got washed over the side of the pool into the
rocks. These were some of the largest waves that I've videoed since a
similar swell produced monsters near Wollongong nearly 2 years ago.


Michael Scollay

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004

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:15:04 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: radar image-cyclone Rona
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi Rob,
> 
> Precipitation radar does not do TC's justice, they're pathetic (well
> ours are) for rain and TC situations.  In reality there probably should
> have been much more green/pink/red there.  Would have been interesting
> to get a doppler image on it though.

Bom internet radar images are probably "averaged" over a 10min period.
Many storms produce intense precipitation bursts that last
considerably less than this time over a particular area. To get a
truer picture, you'd have to sit in front of the real radar display
watching and recording each sweep. Perhaps someone else might like to
comment on how effective the BoM internet radar product is at
rendering such precipitation burst conditions typical of many storms.

Michael Scollay

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005

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:07:27 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Tomorrow
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Tomorrow looks like it could be promising in the sydney region and ive
alrady organised to meet Matt Piper at parramatta station at 11am, from
there we will head to rooty hill and watch and wait..David Croan is also
likely to come with us, and will most likely meet us at Rooty Hill at 11.30am.
Anyone else who wishes to come please mail me so we can get an idea of
numbers/cars etc. If you read this to late, just come along anyway :)
(LI's from -2 to -4, TT's 50+,jet of 50kts + and plenty of moisture around
and a trough to top it off)

At the moment there is alot of moisture haze aruond with temps around 30
and small cu starting to develope around the mountains.Hopefully giving a
hint of what will happen tomorrow!

Matt Smith

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:20:06 +1100
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: radar image-cyclone Rona
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The images are not averages of 10 mins, but a snapshot at the time
indicated. For details about the BoMs radar check the info on their pages:

http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/
http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/radarexp.shtml
this has some sample images as well.

The local scale (256km diameter) radar images seem to give a fairly good
indication of thunderstorm type rainfall bursts, based on radar I have seen
and the rainfall figures recorded. I'm not sure how effective it is in
large scale rainfall like that from the cyclone, but remember if areas of
yellow are consistently showing up then the area affected is likely to be
receiving at least 20mm/hour, probably more, which soon adds up to a lot of
rainfall in 24 hours. And given strong winds, it's probably more like
30-40mm/hour.

regards, Michael

>Bom internet radar images are probably "averaged" over a 10min period.
>Many storms produce intense precipitation bursts that last
>considerably less than this time over a particular area. To get a
>truer picture, you'd have to sit in front of the real radar display
>watching and recording each sweep. Perhaps someone else might like to
>comment on how effective the BoM internet radar product is at
>rendering such precipitation burst conditions typical of many storms.
>
>Michael Scollay

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:27:02 +1100
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From: Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Tomorrow
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At 01:07 PM 15/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Tomorrow looks like it could be promising in the sydney region and ive
>alrady organised to meet Matt Piper at parramatta station at 11am, from
>there we will head to rooty hill and watch and wait..David Croan is also
>likely to come with us, and will most likely meet us at Rooty Hill at
11.30am.
>Anyone else who wishes to come please mail me so we can get an idea of
>numbers/cars etc. If you read this to late, just come along anyway :)
>(LI's from -2 to -4, TT's 50+,jet of 50kts + and plenty of moisture around
>and a trough to top it off)
>
>At the moment there is alot of moisture haze aruond with temps around 30
>and small cu starting to develope around the mountains.Hopefully giving a
>hint of what will happen tomorrow!
>
>Matt Smith

I'm up for a chase tomorrow.
Will you have me along? :)

Ben Munro

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008

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:42:49 +1100
From: Doug [toejoe at tpg.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Raining
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Overnight in Proserpine QLD  I have had 127 mm of rain and it is still
raining very heavy.A thunder storm has just past over.
Doug Proserpine

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009

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:06:02 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Thanks Michael. Now when is ASWA likely to get sponsorship funding to
afford it's own portable radar:-)?

Michael Scollay

Michael Bath wrote:
> 
> The images are not averages of 10 mins, but a snapshot at the time
> indicated. For details about the BoMs radar check the info on their pages:
> 
> http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/
> http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/radarexp.shtml
> this has some sample images as well.
> 
> The local scale (256km diameter) radar images seem to give a fairly good
> indication of thunderstorm type rainfall bursts, based on radar I have seen
> and the rainfall figures recorded. I'm not sure how effective it is in
> large scale rainfall like that from the cyclone, but remember if areas of
> yellow are consistently showing up then the area affected is likely to be
> receiving at least 20mm/hour, probably more, which soon adds up to a lot of
> rainfall in 24 hours. And given strong winds, it's probably more like
> 30-40mm/hour.
> 
> regards, Michael

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 15:06:23 +1100
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Tomorrow
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Hi Ben !!
yeah meet us at Rooty Hill at 11.30am
Michael bath is comming later at 3pm or so , he will try and meet up with
us then.
I wont be checking my mail till 11.30 tonight after this as i have work
till then, anyway it should be a great day!!
(bring some drinks/food as we might not be stopping often!) also fill up
the tank :)
cya tomorrow

Matt Smith
>I'm up for a chase tomorrow.
>Will you have me along? :)
>
>Ben Munro

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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 16:09:12 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Tomorrow
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Hi Jimmy here,

I will be coming along with Michael. We will try and meet on Rooty but if
the storm is on you move as you should.

Jimmy Deguara.


At 03:06 PM 2/15/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Ben !!
>yeah meet us at Rooty Hill at 11.30am
>Michael bath is comming later at 3pm or so , he will try and meet up with
>us then.
>I wont be checking my mail till 11.30 tonight after this as i have work
>till then, anyway it should be a great day!!
>(bring some drinks/food as we might not be stopping often!) also fill up
>the tank :)
>cya tomorrow

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012

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Dangerous swell running - NSW
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:29:56 +1100
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Those ocean pools can be dangerous, a lady was nearly washed out of the
Kiama rock pool on Sunday, there is a chain and thats all that was stopping
her. The problem was she arrived in calm spot between sets and thought that
the pool edge near this chain was a great place to be. The people in the
pool itself were in no danger as the water is quite deep and only the
surface 12-18ins spills overs the edge after a big wave. Naturally there was
a crowd a daredevils standing on the ocean edge of  pool waiting to get
blasted back into the pool everytime a large wave hit.

Today ( Monday ) there is still 6-8ft of swell, with odd bigger sets on
ocean reefs. Sorry about the imperial measurements, but metres are not
flexible enough for surf size description. For example there is a world of
difference between a 1m wave and a 2 m wave, one is small, the other is a
decent surf.

Michael

>[snip thread]
>
>I've taken video at Dee Why (Sydney Northern Beaches) on Saturday
>evening (13/2/1999) of waves peaking at between 6m and 8m before
>engulfing surf board riders. There was, at times, a considerable surf
>operating in the pool that at one time washed a child away in the
>kiddies pool unawares to his parents. I was lucky enough to see the
>next and larger wave coming with enough time to pluck the child from
>the water before he got washed over the side of the pool into the
>rocks. These were some of the largest waves that I've videoed since a
>similar swell produced monsters near Wollongong nearly 2 years ago.
>
>
>Michael Scollay

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013

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Post in US newsgroup - Cyclone Rona
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 17:55:02 +1100
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May interest some --
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Looking at the sat motion from the area it seems that the equatorial
section of the system was a separate entity, then another system came
WNW of the NE side of PNG and had some cloud overlap during part of
the time.

Some west to east propagating tropical upper tropospheric wave caused
some subsidence and eroded the cloud overlap and the system NE of PNG
dissipated.

"S. Young"  wrote:

>It's the end of a shear line a not uncommon event.  In this area, it is
>usually part of the South pacific Convergence Zone (SPCZ) which streatches
>from the tropics into the sub tropics.  These often develop into tropical
>systems


>Eric Bazan wrote in message <01be55eb$7da20c00$3923a8c0 at cube-266a>...
>>>   Yes, the satellite image shows a small but compact looking cyclone.
>>
>>   Looking at the noon GMS-5 satellite image for 2-11 reveals a
>>huge swath of convection starting close to the Equator and
>>spreading South-East to about 30S (North of New Zealand).
>>It almost looks as though the cyclone affecting Australia
>>was 'spawned' from this band of convection. Can anyone explain
>>this feature?
>>
>>   -Eric

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From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Eclipse
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The solar eclipse is tomorrow, to see what coverage you will get in your
area at the time of the peak of the eclipse go to:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7137/austra99.htm

Perth will have 92% coverage at 3:24pm WST, live views of it will be at:

http://sun.livecam.com.au/

Jacob

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Tomorrow
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 19:25:29 +1100
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I hope everything goes off for tomorrow, the only nagging doubt I have is
that the Li are nearly as good this afternoon, yet there is nothing, the
southerly change should kick it over the line tomorrow though.

As for the BOM Wednesday forecast of showers and storms, sorry, but I am
writing it off ( which of course has just raised the chances immensely ).

I will not be doing a chase as my wife will have the transport sown up for
the evening, so I hope something develops over lake Illawarra.

Michael

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016

From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: "The List" & contact details
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 21:31:24 +1100
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It has been suggested by a number of people that adding a contact name and
phone number to the list is a good idea for those of us who may spend some
of our time away from home & out in the field, so I would like to include
these with the next update if they are supplied.

I'm also missing a whole pile of info.  I'm looking to fill in some gaps
(please note that silent numbers are automatically withheld from "The List"
unless you specify otherwise, and you only need give us the info you would
like to have published, but at least the first 3 would be great for us to
have):-
full name
suburb / city
state
mobile no
home no
work no
ICQ no
nick
email address

If you would like to check to see what details are missing or incorrect for
you, the latest update can be found at.....
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/location.htm
(Remember this is not available to anyone other than aussie-weather list
members)

Details can be emailed to the list or direct to me (cadence at rubix.net.au)
and I will add them to our next update at the end of this week.

Jane ONeill
ASWA rep - Victoria

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017

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Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Conditions 15/2/99
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 02:40:17 PST
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At 9.25pm EDT it is still 28 degrees. There is some scattered 
mid level cloud.

The main reason for the post is to pass on a sighting of a pretty
lively looking cell that developed from around 5.30pm well to the 
SE of Canberra (around 100 - 150km to the SE). It seemed to have
an overshooting top and was visibly active until around 7.00pm 
when I lost sight of it as the AC/AS from the west moved in and
obscured visibility.  (It shows up well on the animation at
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html  )

So Sydneysiders, there is certainly potential in this evening's 
atmosphere for a good day tomorrow. Just hope the middle level
cloud band doesn't get in the way too early.

Some showers developed over the Brindabellas earlier this 
evening but that activity seems to have dissipated as it 
moves east. 

The GMS shows a thickening of the middle level band so we could 
be in for some light rain overnight. 

Its situations like this where I think about subscribing
to the radar. Come to think of it the daily subscription could
just tempt me if it was available (even at the expensive rate
sought by the BOM - although it seems to be a long time in
coming.

Patrick from Canberra

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From: "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Tuesdays Chase
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:52:18 PST
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There is a group meeting at Rooty Hill at 11:30 for a chase. Anyone who 
is interested turn up. If you get this too late or anyone wants to 
contact Matt Piper or Myself then call on 0412 065 921. 

Daniel Weatherhead 

Document: 990215.htm
Updated: 18th February, 1999

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