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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 16th February 1999

    From                                           Subject
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001 Doug [toejoe at tpg.com.au]                       Raining
002 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Media and forecasts
003 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
004 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]       Media and forecasts
005 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Media and forecasts
006 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       Current Weather
007 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au                        Sydney 2.30pm 16/02
008 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Speedy system
009 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     SE QLD T'storm activity
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  COLA predicted Sydney's bust chase:-(
011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Pictures of the Jan 31 SE QLD Chase
012 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Pictures of the Jan 31 SE QLD Chase
013 "Manda .  M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]               Troppo!!
014 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Media and forecasts
015 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Media and forecasts
016 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Media and forecasts
017 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Upper air charts
018 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Upper air charts
019 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             nother Dangerous swell running-NSW
020 "bonzo" [bonzo at mpx.com.au]                     ex-rona
021 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      SE QLD T'storm activity

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001

Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:42:49 +1100
From: Doug [toejoe at tpg.com.au]
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Overnight in Proserpine QLD  I have had 127 mm of rain and it is still
raining very heavy.A thunder storm has just past over.
Doug Proserpine

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002

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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Media and forecasts
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:16:48 PST
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There has been some recent discussion on this list about
the passing on of warnings to the media and their subsequent
distribution to the public. It was pleasing to hear that as 
a result of this discussion that processes to speed up the
dissemination have been improved.

The gripe I have is the habit of some media (the ABC in 
Canberra is the particular culprit I have in mind today 16/2)
of abbreviating forecasts thereby leaving out some important
information.

Today's forecast for Canberra from the BoM is:
"Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid day with 
the chance of late thundery showers. Moderate  west to 
northwesterly winds, becoming gusty with the showers." 

(A forecast that many in this list would doubtless
like to see more often!)

The headline was "A.C.T. FORECAST:   HEADLINE:  Rain clearing. Unsettled 
later"

The ABC radio issued several times this morning the following
abbreviated forecast: "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid 
day". 

The result is a totally misleading indication to the
public of the likely conditions. It no doubt also adds to
public perceptions of yet another wrong forecast (which of course
indirectly allows Finance Departments to extract bigger budget
cuts from an agency perceived to be not very effective).

I will be sending a note to the ABC complaining of the error of
their ways, but I wonder how widespread 
this problem is? 

I can understand the BoM frustration when they
have provided a media friendly headline which still goes ignored.

Patrick from Canberra

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003

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 03:07:35 +1100
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Hi All,

How did I know today would be a 100% cloud cover? Could it be something to
do with the eclipse?
I think the last time we had 100% cover was during the meteorite shower last
year.
At the start of the rain about 4.00am when had up to 50-60 kmh wind gusts.
It did sound promising for a while.

 Boring grey sky with slight drizzle.
 In Orange at 09.25am 24C, 1010, 32%, No breeze.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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004

From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at nsw.bigpond.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media and forecasts
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:43:27 +1100
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Pat

I dissagree with you on this one. If the BoM did not think the thunderstorms
were worthy enough to make it onto the Headline, then the ABC is justified
in abbreviating the forecast as they did. Sometimes it is necessary to
abbreviate the forecasts and this is the purpose of the Headline product. If
the BoM wanted to ensure that storms got a mention, then they would have put
them in the Headline.

Mark

|There has been some recent discussion on this list about
|the passing on of warnings to the media and their subsequent
|distribution to the public. It was pleasing to hear that as
|a result of this discussion that processes to speed up the
|dissemination have been improved.
|
|The gripe I have is the habit of some media (the ABC in
|Canberra is the particular culprit I have in mind today 16/2)
|of abbreviating forecasts thereby leaving out some important
|information.
|
|Today's forecast for Canberra from the BoM is:
|"Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid day with
|the chance of late thundery showers. Moderate  west to
|northwesterly winds, becoming gusty with the showers."
|
|(A forecast that many in this list would doubtless
|like to see more often!)
|
|The headline was "A.C.T. FORECAST:   HEADLINE:  Rain clearing. Unsettled
|later"
|
|The ABC radio issued several times this morning the following
|abbreviated forecast: "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid
|day".
|
|The result is a totally misleading indication to the
|public of the likely conditions. It no doubt also adds to
|public perceptions of yet another wrong forecast (which of course
|indirectly allows Finance Departments to extract bigger budget
|cuts from an agency perceived to be not very effective).
|
|I will be sending a note to the ABC complaining of the error of
|their ways, but I wonder how widespread
|this problem is?
|
|I can understand the BoM frustration when they
|have provided a media friendly headline which still goes ignored.
|
|Patrick from Canberra

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005

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media and forecasts
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Patrick Tobin wrote:
> 
> There has been some recent discussion on this list about
> the passing on of warnings to the media and their subsequent
> distribution to the public. It was pleasing to hear that as 
> a result of this discussion that processes to speed up the
> dissemination have been improved.
> 
> The gripe I have is the habit of some media (the ABC in 
> Canberra is the particular culprit I have in mind today 16/2)
> of abbreviating forecasts thereby leaving out some important
> information.
> 
> Today's forecast for Canberra from the BoM is:
> "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid day with 
> the chance of late thundery showers. Moderate  west to 
> northwesterly winds, becoming gusty with the showers." 
> 
> (A forecast that many in this list would doubtless
> like to see more often!)
> 
> The headline was "A.C.T. FORECAST:   HEADLINE:  Rain clearing. Unsettled 
> later"
> 
> The ABC radio issued several times this morning the following
> abbreviated forecast: "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid 
> day". 
> 
> The result is a totally misleading indication to the
> public of the likely conditions. It no doubt also adds to
> public perceptions of yet another wrong forecast (which of course
> indirectly allows Finance Departments to extract bigger budget
> cuts from an agency perceived to be not very effective).
One of my pet peeves (commercial FM stations seem to be the worst
offenders in this department) is forecast abbreviators who get the
gist of the forecast completely wrong - it's remarkable how often
a forecast of 'chance of an isolated shower or two about the ranges'
(or words to that effect) gets translated as 'wet for the next three
days'.

Still, as media atrocities in meteorology go, this is fairly tame 
- I was thinking of writing an article on 1998's lowlights for the 
AMOS Bulletin. Particular mentions go to the story in the Launceston
'Examiner' (a consistent performer in this department) which managed
to make five factual errors in its first four lines, and the 'Herald-
Sun' sub-editor who obviously didn't think an Australian mean 
temperature anomaly of +0.88 deg C was dramatic enough and unilaterally
changed it to +8.8 deg C. The Bureau person to whom the suddenly-
multiplied quote was attributed was less than impressed.

Blair Trewin

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From: "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]
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Four of us are in the UWS Nepean library on a chase. The whole morning 
and to now has been pretty disapointing but there is some cu over the 
mountains in the direction of Lithgow, Mt Tomah, Mt Hay and some other 
cloud south of there. If anyone has anything to report we will be in the 
Library until some thing happens. Call Daniel Weatherhead on 0412065921 
or post. If terry bishop has a report from orange or anyone  west of 
Sydney.

Thanks
Matt
Matt
Ben
Daniel

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007

From: Michael_Bath at amp.com.au
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Well it's taken ages today, but finally some cumulus is starting to develop
to the SW. Congestus will soon follow, and I hope some nice storms this
afternoon.  A cloud band consisting of mostly altocumulus dissipated by
late morning to the NE, while a little stratocu developed with a weak SE
wind near the coast. The moisture haze is very apparent.

I'm leaving work now and will be with Jimmy and the others on chase from
around 3.30pm. My mobile is 0412 145 755.

regards,

Michael Bath

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:28:20 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: Speedy system
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Hi Jimmy here

My Mathematics teacher who is originally from Asia is celebrating the
Chinese New Year. Of course this does mean that it is the year pf the
rabbit. And this does mean that weather systems like that that occurred to
day goes really fast!!! through Sydney. Yepp, another dud day.

Jimmy Deguara
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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009

Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 16:59:29 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all...I'm not sure if I should say this, because otherwise I'll start
receiving death threats from the Sydney-Siders!!  But, there's a small,
nice looking cell to my SW (near Ipswich), it appears to be moving N
though, so we won't get anything.  It developed over the border ranges,
and there is some nice lightning on tracker.  Lightning tracker also
shows some t'storm activity in NE NSW.  Thank God for our border
ranges...because our soundings were RS:

Cap Strength:              5.87 C
Lifted Index:              2.75 C Risk: None
Lifted Index  at 300 mb:      6.32 C
Lifted Index  at 700 mb:      2.83 C
Showalter Index:           9.87 C Risk: None
Total Totals Index:       31.60 C Risk: None
  Vertical Totals Index:  25.30 C
  Cross Totals Index:      6.30 C
K Index:                   0.90   Risk: None
Sweat Index:              67.20   Risk: None
Energy Index:              1.83   Risk: None

Parcel Indices
Parcel: using 100 mb layer
CAPE (B+):                 6.91 J/kg
Max Up Vert Vel:           3.72 m/s
Conv Inhibition (B-):  31962.24 J/kg

Also, I recorded a max of 32.3C, with a DP of 23C, very nice to get some
summer wx at last!  Lets hope we get something on Thursday.

Anthony from Brisbane

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010

Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:50:24 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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As the title suggests, COLA's maps predicted no major precipation for
chasers in Sydney today but also predicted a storm that moved through
the South Coast near Bega last night. Sorry chasers:-( Let's move to
Pt Hedland in WA where it blows up almost every day!

Michael Scollay

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011

Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:17:04 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

I finally got my pictures back from the Jan 31 t'storm chase with a
'funnel shaped lowering,' you can find them at:

 http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/1999jan31.html

any input on that lowering would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Anthony Cornelius

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012

From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Pictures of the Jan 31 SE QLD Chase
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:25:08 +1000
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Hi all...James from Brisbane here

The report for those pics is here:
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jourdey/storm/chs310199.html

Was a long chase - but worth it.

James
PS: that storm to the SW has collapsed, but storms over NE NSW continue.
Good potential for storms over the ranges tomorrow....and Thursday could be
better...

>
>I finally got my pictures back from the Jan 31 t'storm chase with a
>'funnel shaped lowering,' you can find them at:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Cove/1068/1999jan31.html
>
>any input on that lowering would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>Anthony Cornelius

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013

From: "Manda .  M" [manda at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Troppo!!
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Hi everyone ,
                      Some real action up this way in over the past few
days.Havn't been able to log on much ,just enough time to look at some
satpics then unhook everything.
     So anyways here goes.......i was waiting and waiting for the low to get
to Bowen.At first it seemed like it would dissapate and all we were going to
get were a few showers.But i was wrong (as usual)
       Sunday night we started to get some heavy rain periods.It stayed all
night .
        Monday morning around 2:30 - 3:00 am I woke to see some CC action
with great rip roaring rolling thunder at times.It seemed to stay most of
the day.The roads north to Townsville had been cut at  Sandy Gully and 2
places near Merinda.They were re-opened around 4pm ,much to the relief of
quite a few people stranded on either side.Any way me, being very
inquisitive,decided to take off and have a look ...Got some great
photos....(well fingers crossed they turn out anyway)At this stage the Don
River (fastest flowing river in the southern hemisphere) was at this stage
not quite bank to bank.
   Around 7 pm we had to make a mercy dash to Townsville for a friend.I was
pretty dubious at first because if we had any further rain the roads could
have been cut once again.But really had no choice in the matter.
   Just as we got about 15 km's out of Bowen we noticed some lightning ahead
of us..as we hit Ayr it seemed to be surrounding us ,It got a bit rough
further along as CG's were hitting around us.We had this all the way to
Townsville,which is 2 hours north of Bowen.
      On the way back it was everywhere .Had a few blinding moments with
Cg's and some heavy precipitation,managed to get back to Bowen to an all
night light show!
     Had further storms today and found out there was a moderate flood
warning for the Don river.So wanting to catch some photos of it roaring down
we headed of to the Don Bridge as did just about every Bowenite ...hehehe.On
the way out there a huge Cg hit the ground around 50 meters from the car and
as well as being deafened for the umteenth time there was no way in   (well
you know what) i was getting out the car .So i took some photos while we
crossed the bridge in the car..(Awsome sight)
     We just had another lovely storm pass over us.....as well.
  I am wondering if we will have more tonight ...??? well who knows ..This
weather is really Troppo.
  But for now i am exhausted and ...oh thrilled ........Its been an
interesting few days to say the least.....

                               Manda    (Tropix)

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:03:51 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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For many years I have noticed that a certain weather presenter on a certain
commercial TV channel in Sydney frequently omits to  say that  the weekend is
going to be wet when clearly it IS going to be. The emphasis is on 'accentuate
the positive, eliminate the negative'.  Is this clever psychology that is
designed to cause the viewers to think 'Oh yes, that's a good forecast, I'll
watch that channel more often!'..? Is the station's rating more important than
the dissemination of all the facts pertaining to the forecast?  Are the
forecasters' producers/superiors at the station telling them to lie to the
public by delivering only half the forecast?
Or am I just paranoid...?
(Don't answer that last question...!)
Patrick Tobin wrote:

> There has been some recent discussion on this list about
> the passing on of warnings to the media and their subsequent
> distribution to the public. It was pleasing to hear that as
> a result of this discussion that processes to speed up the
> dissemination have been improved.
>
> The gripe I have is the habit of some media (the ABC in
> Canberra is the particular culprit I have in mind today 16/2)
> of abbreviating forecasts thereby leaving out some important
> information.
>
> Today's forecast for Canberra from the BoM is:
> "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid day with
> the chance of late thundery showers. Moderate  west to
> northwesterly winds, becoming gusty with the showers."
>
> (A forecast that many in this list would doubtless
> like to see more often!)
>
> The headline was "A.C.T. FORECAST:   HEADLINE:  Rain clearing. Unsettled
> later"
>
> The ABC radio issued several times this morning the following
> abbreviated forecast: "Some rain at first, clearing to a warm and humid
> day".
>
> The result is a totally misleading indication to the
> public of the likely conditions. It no doubt also adds to
> public perceptions of yet another wrong forecast (which of course
> indirectly allows Finance Departments to extract bigger budget
> cuts from an agency perceived to be not very effective).
>
> I will be sending a note to the ABC complaining of the error of
> their ways, but I wonder how widespread
> this problem is?
>
> I can understand the BoM frustration when they
> have provided a media friendly headline which still goes ignored.
>
> Patrick from Canberra

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:19:16 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Keith,

I can partly agree with you. I think the Media does tend to have pressure
to try and go for a nice weekend and some of this is done for ratings
particularly on TV. However, I think they don't lie as such but mislead or
downplay any bad forecasts and highlight sunny breaks and clearing. This is
wrong but again it is something we have to put up with along with incorrect
use of terminology.

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:03 PM 2/16/99 +1100, you wrote:
>For many years I have noticed that a certain weather presenter on a certain
>commercial TV channel in Sydney frequently omits to  say that  the weekend is
>going to be wet when clearly it IS going to be. The emphasis is on 'accentuate
>the positive, eliminate the negative'.  Is this clever psychology that is
>designed to cause the viewers to think 'Oh yes, that's a good forecast, I'll
>watch that channel more often!'..? Is the station's rating more important than
>the dissemination of all the facts pertaining to the forecast?  Are the
>forecasters' producers/superiors at the station telling them to lie to the
>public by delivering only half the forecast?
>Or am I just paranoid...?
>(Don't answer that last question...!)

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:16:16 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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In other words the cryptic and the elliptic have struck again..

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Keith,
>
> I can partly agree with you. I think the Media does tend to have pressure
> to try and go for a nice weekend and some of this is done for ratings
> particularly on TV. However, I think they don't lie as such but mislead or
> downplay any bad forecasts and highlight sunny breaks and clearing. This is
> wrong but again it is something we have to put up with along with incorrect
> use of terminology.
>
> Jimmy Deguara

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:20:09 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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The 500 Mb charts I've always been able to get from the BOM's gopher
appear to be unavailable.
I assume the long-promised 'shutdown' has happened..or has it? Or are
they just having problems today?
If not does anyone know where the charts can now be obtained...is it
part of the registered user service (I couldn't tell from looking at the
site)...?

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:57:51 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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The gopher's up again..
I don't usually have to wait an hour for it like I did tonight...
Keith Barnett wrote:

> The 500 Mb charts I've always been able to get from the BOM's gopher
> appear to be unavailable.
> I assume the long-promised 'shutdown' has happened..or has it? Or are
> they just having problems today?
> If not does anyone know where the charts can now be obtained...is it
> part of the registered user service (I couldn't tell from looking at the
> site)...?

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019

From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re:aus-wx:Another Dangerous swell running-NSW
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:18:55 +1100
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6-8m waves at Dee Why.......it would've been better at Collaroy!!!.....waves
that size would  be breaking IN the pool.......
I've seen what 3-4m waves could do at Collaroy, LOVE to see what 6-8m waves
was like!!!!!...who needs to paddle out....just catch the backwash out!(How
do I know???...I used to live at Collaroy Plateau)
See Ya's
John

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020

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From: "bonzo" [bonzo at mpx.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: ex-rona 
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 99 09:29:56 PST
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hey Manda how,s it going down there, sounds like you have had some action
with all those storms.
Well you better keep your witts about you because i dont think we,ve seen
the last of that system just yet. The b.o.m. are keeping a close eye on it,
if it goes back out to sea they think it may reintensify back into a
cyclone, hope not.
 Now it,s my turn to worry about you, catch you later, Rob.

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD T'storm activity
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:36:17 +-1000
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I watched this go up, as I drove home from the north coast this afternoon.

Was looking very nice, the CU were topping approx 30,000 but hardening late
in the evening - I found an unobstructed view just near Strathpine, at about
6.45 - there were three towers lined up from the west - the front had
anvilled only a little, towards the east but displayed fine, strong bursts
of IC lightning and the odd anvil crawler.

As I rounded Everton Park it was all falling apart, losing thrust.  The tops
were collapsing and turning into fluff.  From the looks I'd say Browns Plains
way got a shower out of it ....

Sunset was spectacular from Noosa to The Gap... OH.  and the Eclipse was
excellent!

rals

Document: 990216.htm
Updated: 18th February, 1999

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