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001 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               blue lightning
002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               Different colours of lightning
003 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           ex tropical cyclone Vance
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: aussie-weather: Change
005 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            ex tropical cyclone Vance - Adelaide
006 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
007 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Different colours of lightning
008 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Different colours of lightning
009 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Different colours of lightning
010 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             ASWA vantage points database!
011 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        Close lightning strikes
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   blue lightning
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Vance and UFO's..ummm ?
014 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Another Cyclone forming?
015 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Lightning Colour
016 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Another Cyclone forming?
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne's Great Reverse Chase
018 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com]     Another Cyclone forming?
019 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            The Iridium Flash...
020 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Different colours of lightning
021 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Vance and UFO's..ummm ?
022 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Different colours of lightning

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hey,
i don't think i explained what i saw good enuff. it was definitely a ground
base source. and it wasn't from a strike of lightning, cos there was never
a strike that i saw from that point. oh, and i saw it happen twice from the
exact same area!!
steve

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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Apparently, as Anthony already suggested, white lightning means an absence
of moisture in the air (and therefore most likely to cause fires), red
lightning means lots of rain, blue means hail, and yellow lightning means
excess dust in the atmosphere.

Cheers,

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
ICQ: 11790565


-----Original Message-----
>hey,
>i don't think i explained what i saw good enuff. it was definitely a ground
>base source. and it wasn't from a strike of lightning, cos there was never
>a strike that i saw from that point. oh, and i saw it happen twice from the
>exact same area!!
>steve

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003

From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: ex tropical cyclone Vance
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:04:08 +1100
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Melbourne felt the effects of ex tropical cyclone Vance last night & still
this morning.  A few spots of rain, but lots of wind.  Highest gusts
recorded to 7am this morning were 108kmh at the top of the Bay & 102kmh at
Footscray.  Reports are in of tree damage in the eastern suburbs and on Mt
Dandenong, level crossing gates being blown off, power outages, flashing
traffic lights & trucks meandering all over the road in the strong
northelies.  The wind is forecast to abate in the next 2 hours.

The strongest winds seem to have been in narrow bands - I drove through a
couple of them last night (each only 3 -4 km wide), another hit my place at
3am & I woke to find the wind screaming for half an hour or so.  It was 24C
when I left home at 6.50 & the 24hour maximum was recorded just before 7am
(I think) with the minimum recorded early yesterday evening.

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:42:51 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Hi Terry,

Yes, I recieved 2mm. Hmmm, I guess you can have significant variations.
After all, often it can be raining a kilometre from here and barely
nothin here...

Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Lindsay,
> 
>         The 12mm was the BoM's 24 Hr reading till 9.00am on Monday 22 March, 1999.
> I assume you would have received some on Sunday night/early Monday morning.
> 
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: ex tropical cyclone Vance - Adelaide
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>Melbourne felt the effects of ex tropical cyclone Vance last night & still
>this morning.

Just to back up Jane's Melbourne report, I'll give you my impression of
SA's day yesterday.  In one word.....weird!

Day started in Adelaide cool, cloudy and quite windy.  At lunchtime the sky
darkened dramatically and we had a brief thundertorm (no WX) and about 5mm
of rain in half an hour.  At this stage it was quite cool - less than
20deg.  By three the cloud had cleared and it was very hot - well over
30deg!!!  And the amount of dust in the air was incredible!  I weep for the
topsoil.  Anyway - the maximum gust recorded was 96kph and many fires were
started by lightning strikes on the Eyre peninsula.  So endeth a bizarre
day courtesy of Mr Vance.....

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
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Hi All,

	A fine but breezy day. 20% covering of very wispy cirrus.

At 09.40 at Orange, 17C, 70%, 1023, N/NNW 10-20 Knots.



 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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I agree with the white lightning theory but have a few diffierent ideas 
about the rest. When I was in Darwin from late October to mid-December, 
the lightning was consistently blue at night during those spectacular 
storms they get. As there is rarely hail up there I think blue lightning 
occurs when there is a lot of moisture/rain/humidity in the atmosphere. 
Videos and documentaries I've seen of lightning overseas also seems to 
have consistently blue lightning when its humid. Red lightning seems to 
occur during the day, particularly with a low sun, or in the country at 
night where the dust will be raised from the downdraughts. In my 
experience lightning is green when there is hail present also taking 
into account that when we see hailstorms approaching we always mention 
the green colour of the sky. Either way coloured lightning makes the 
storm that much more spectacular.



>From: "Marty" 
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>To: 
>Subject: aus-wx: Different colours of lightning
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 02:44:20 +1000
>
>Apparently, as Anthony already suggested, white lightning means an 
absence
>of moisture in the air (and therefore most likely to cause fires), red
>lightning means lots of rain, blue means hail, and yellow lightning 
means
>excess dust in the atmosphere.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Marty.
>Brisbane, Australia
>martyp at dynamite.com.au
>Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
>Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
>ICQ: 11790565

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I would imagine that the colour of lightning is also affected by
the energy released. A more powerful bolt may ionise and energise
the gases in the atmosphere by different amounts, causing different
wavelengths of light ot be released. Any physicists on board who can
provide some numbers?

At 09:45 25/03/99 , you wrote:
>I agree with the white lightning theory but have a few diffierent ideas 
>about the rest. When I was in Darwin from late October to mid-December, 
>the lightning was consistently blue at night during those spectacular 
>storms they get. As there is rarely hail up there I think blue lightning 
>occurs when there is a lot of moisture/rain/humidity in the atmosphere. 
>Videos and documentaries I've seen of lightning overseas also seems to 
>have consistently blue lightning when its humid. Red lightning seems to 
>occur during the day, particularly with a low sun, or in the country at 
>night where the dust will be raised from the downdraughts. In my 
>experience lightning is green when there is hail present also taking 
>into account that when we see hailstorms approaching we always mention 
>the green colour of the sky. Either way coloured lightning makes the 
>storm that much more spectacular.

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And some more...

Smoke in the atmosphere will obviously also cause discoloration, but I can 
attest to both greenish and pinkish strokes observed in Brisbane storms.  I 
have also been very close (<100m) to a bright slightly greenish CG during 
heavy rain in a Sydney storm which produced no crack or thunder as such, 
but instead a loud sort of phhhththt, much like a high amperage flashover 
on welding equipment.  The stroke appeared as a fast but distinct swell & 
decay with no flickering as per a multiple strike.

Regards,

-----Original Message-----
Apparently, as Anthony already suggested, white lightning means an absence
of moisture in the air (and therefore most likely to cause fires), red
lightning means lots of rain, blue means hail, and yellow lightning means
excess dust in the atmosphere.

Cheers,

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
ICQ: 11790565

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: ASWA vantage points database!
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:14:54 +1000
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And one from me...

1. Barnes Hill, Mt. Crosby.

Location: Intersection of Wattle St. and Mt. Crosby Rd.  1km past Kholo 
Creek driving Westward.  The road at this point runs along a sharp ridge 
directly above the Brisbane River.  Situation is approx 11 kms due North of 
Ipswich.

Views: 180 degree view South including Ipswich, the Great Dividing Range 
from approx. halfway between Toowoomba and Cunninghams Gap through all 
border ranges, Gold Coast to South end of Moreton Island.  I have captured 
some great distance shots of storms in the Boonah/Beaudesert region from 
this point.

Pro's: Good elevation approx 70m above surrounding countryside, and 
immediate parking just off main road.  Border range and other landmarks 
clearly visible.

Cons: No shelter, and rather exposed to lightning strikes due to trees on 
the hilltop.  Views to the North largely obstructed by Hills & Trees.

Comment: Rather superior views would be obtained from the nearby Mermaid 
Mountain (350m), which looks directly SW, but access via the Forestry Rd is 
now closed to vehicular traffic.

John W.

-----Original Message-----
OK Daniel here is a entry or 3...........

1.Razorback Lookout, Picton.

Location - on the OLD Hume highway about 5kms north of Picton. Can be
accessed by Picton turnoff from F5 freeway, or from Camden to Picton road.

Views - Full 360 degrees, with very few trees. Can see right up to blue
mountains and beyond Richmond / Windsor, air quality is limiting factor.
View to south to about Bowral area, as altitude gradually rises the
southwards view is not as extensive, but quite large none the less. East to
coast ( can't see coast due to Illawarra escarpment ).

Pros - has a handy compass thingy with landmarks, good for pinpointing cell
direction / location. A picnic shed if it rains, but it is dirty, think of
it as a camera shelter shed.

Cons - as with most Sydney Basin views there is lots of broken glass, but
not as bad as some.  - you are also very exposed if  lightning were to be
close, and there are a few metal objects to attract it, grid post, etc.

2. Hill 60, Port Kembla -

Location - drive into Port Kembla and go direct to road near big smoke 
stack
( can't miss it ), follow this road SE to Hill 60, can't miss it, it is a
large hill beside Port Kembla Beach ( Military road goes direct from stack
to view ).

Views - 360' views. Seaward only limited by air quality, as you are at a
decent elevation you can see lots ( of water ), South - All the southern
Illawarra from Warrawong - Dapto to Kiama. North - all the way north along
coast to Kurnell, but escarpment limits western views, you will still see
the towers, just not the bases. West - OK, but steelworks is not the most
pleasant backdrop.

Pros - This is a superb east coast low location, it is very exposed, a
90knot wind gust was recorded here last August, good for that horizontal
rain / spray video. Also would be ideal post if suspecting a waterspout.

Cons - Do you really want to chase thunderstorms this close to the ocean, 
by
here they are on their way out to sea. Quite clean for a change.

3. Mt Pleasant, Kiama.

Location - Princes Hwy, about 10kms south of Kiama. Look for high wind
warning sign and watertank on left.

Views 180'. Southwards limited by air quality, can see mountains west of
Batemans Bay on a clear day, can pick out cells over Canberra. North is OK,
but limited by escarpment. West is out of the question.

Pros - this is not so much a observation post but a good viewing area to
help decide if a south coast chase should proceed or be called off, the 
view
south is simply great. Rumour also has it that the Nowra - Braidwood road 
is
to sealed, if so this would open up some great chasing possibilities. All
that area can be assessed from here.

Cons - exposed and no facilities, traffic can be tricky when exiting.

Michael

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:56:11 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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John and others,

John Woodbridge wrote:

> I have also been very close (<100m) to a bright slightly greenish CG during
> heavy rain in a Sydney storm which produced no crack or thunder as such,
> but instead a loud sort of phhhththt

This is somewhat symptomatic of a VERY CLOSE lightning strike that is high
amperage. These strikes commonly hang around for a while afterwards and
commonly have little "beads" left in the strike channel.
Such an example is on this page.
It is an animated "gif" (sorry its quite big in at 680 kbytes) of a close
strike with a tornado in the background.
http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/3677/072997.gif
(Notice the strike channel is moving to the right as it is being blown by air
but stays "connected" to the same point on the ground.)
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Almost sounds like a St Elmos fire type thing, my sister once witnessed blue
gas / plasma / whatever radiate out along the ground from a CG strike point.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>hey,
>i don't think i explained what i saw good enuff. it was definitely a ground
>base source. and it wasn't from a strike of lightning, cos there was never
>a strike that i saw from that point. oh, and i saw it happen twice from the
>exact same area!!
>steve

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Vance and UFO's..ummm ?
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This is NOT my message, it was posted on a US newsgroup....but I am sure you
will find it...well lets say interesting....
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------
UFO Sightings Precede Cyclone Vance hit on Exmouth, Western Australia

On Friday night 19 March 1999 an unusual object was spotted over
Stirling, South Australia (the town home base for Downer, the
Minister of Foreign Affairs).

I spotted this same mystery object.  My story follows:

I live in the woods in a shack without electricity, plumbing or
gas.  The shack is very drafty and has a brick and dirt floor.

(This is in stark contrast to the luxury homes of the many
EuroRussian people who inhabit the nearby cities of Stirling
and Adelaide.)

Anyway, I don't watch the images on any TV or the latest video
from Goldywood ("Hollywood") or visit the "pub" (a drug den) at
night but instead prefer to do some nightly walking around the
area.

On Friday night the sky was very clear and plenty of stars were
visible.  I came to a point in the path I usually take that
faces towards Stirling and noticed an very bright star in the
sky over Downer's town.  This was strange because I hadn't seen
any planet or other bright object in the same spot of sky on
previous nights.  The time was about 8:45 p.m. or 07:15 Zulu.

Then something really unusual happened, the star that had been
stationary got much brighter for a few seconds and then gently
faded and wafted slowly in movement up and away to the south.

It was out of my view in less than a minute.

This was no ordinary "low flying planet"!

In the next few nights after the star-like UFO appearance there
were many churches in the area that were vandalised by arson and
painting of "Satanic" symbols.  The News' media gave these
incidents relentless attention but gave little if any focus
to the UFO over Downer's Town.

(Could it be a planned procedure of the "Aussie" CIA/KGB of ASIO
or ASIS and/or some other government body or the ruling
financial elites to deliberately inspire fear and terror into
communities where there are significant UFO sightings or other
momentous occasions as a way of distracting the attention of the
people to more localised or "normal" events?)

Also, in the days just previous to the UFO event, Downer and the
others had given formal approval for General Atomic of the World
nuclear movement to fully operate a new uranium mine called
"Beverley" in South Australia.  This mine uses sulfuric acid
leaching to extract uranium oxide in a process that will
IRREPAIRABLY damage the Great Artesian Basin in South Australia.

(Not to mention the IMMENSE INCREDIBLE GLOBAL DEVASTATION that
any nuclear radiation source will cause through genetic defects,
cancer and other numerous maladies to most of Earth's
creatures.)

And, of course, a few days later the LARGEST and MOST POWERFUL
cyclone to ever hit Australia's west coast rammed its way into
the large Zionist military intelligence centre near Exmouth
at Shark Bay.

May we all live in interesting times...

anunga at hotmail.com

P.S.

For the Nunga People (the Australian people or "Aboriginal"

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Just had a look at the latest satellite pics and it looks as though 
there could be another cyclone forming to the NW of the Kimberley in WA. 
The various satellite loops have been interesting the last couple of 
days as the weather seems to have been rotating around Australia (with 
central Queensland as the centre)  in an anti clockwise direction. While 
this is probably normal considering the trade winds its interesting to 
look at such consistent large scale movement.

See all you Victorian ASWA members on Saturday.

Chris

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I'm by no means an expert but as far as I know, the colour of a 
lightning stroke is related to the chemical composition of the air.  
Each lightning discharge stimulates electrons in the air molecules (be 
they oxygen, nitrogen, carbon dioxide or something else) to a higher 
energy level.  As they fall back to a lower energy level a photon (or 
packet of energy) is released at a wavelength (or colour as we perceive) 
related to the level of excitation of the electrons - this depends on 
what the chemical composition of the air is.  This means the colour 
could be affected by atmospheric pollutants and lightning could appear a 
different colour in the city, or other areas of high air pollution, to 
the colour it might appear in rural areas.  I think the colour is also 
related to the initial voltage (electric field strength) in the cloud 
and hence the level of excitation of the electrons but I would think it 
would be fairly similar for most strikes anyway.
- Paul G.

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Cyclone forming?
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> 
> 
> Just had a look at the latest satellite pics and it looks as though 
> there could be another cyclone forming to the NW of the Kimberley in WA. 
According to the WA cyclone outlook, this system exists in an 
unfavourable upper wind environment - it's assessed as having a low
probability of development in the next 48 hours and a moderate
probability thereafter.

Blair Trewin

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne's Great Reverse Chase
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:48:50 +1100
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Thanks to Chris Gribben, who has a far better memory than some of us, I've
now put up the tale of the night of Melbourne's first group "Reverse Chase".

Curious??  Go to:

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/28_1_99.htm


Jane ONeill
Bayswater, melbourne

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Just looked at the 18Z AVN LFTX and it is predicting quite a large area 
of -3 to -6 for tomorrow and Saturday at this stage. We'll wait and see 
I guess. Hopefully if it does form it doesn't hit the same area as 
Vance!!



>From: Blair Trewin 
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Cyclone forming?
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:02:22 +1100 (EST)
>
>> 
>> 
>> Just had a look at the latest satellite pics and it looks as though 
>> there could be another cyclone forming to the NW of the Kimberley in 
WA. 
>According to the WA cyclone outlook, this system exists in an 
>unfavourable upper wind environment - it's assessed as having a low
>probability of development in the next 48 hours and a moderate
>probability thereafter.
>
>Blair Trewin

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From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: The Iridium Flash...
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:11:13 PST
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This sounds like an Iridium flash.  If you have one of these new fancy 
mobiles you should be able to make a phone call from anywhere with the 
66 or however many Iridium satellites there are...They have some highly 
reflective part which would certainly could make people on the ground 
wonder..  I think I saw one myself one evening here in Sydney.  I 
watched a polar orbiter in the early evening pass over but it started 
out quite faint before very quickly becoming very bright - like Sirius 
or Jupiter - and then very quickly disappearing.
- Paul G.

>--Snip--
>Then something really unusual happened, the star that had been
>stationary got much brighter for a few seconds and then gently
>faded and wafted slowly in movement up and away to the south.

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Different colours of lightning
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Hi Chris!

Sounds good to me! As you know the wavelengths of light are to do with 
the photons released when different electrons drop back from excited 
states (not Victoria I'm sad to say!)

So on that premise, higher energy electrons will drop back further 
(however what levels they drop to depends on how quickly they lose that 
energy - energy levels being quantized and all...)

If electrons drop back large amounts in one go they will therefore 
release higher energy photons resulting in higher frequency light i.e. 
blue, violet etc. while "small" drops would give off lower frequency 
photons...

BTW...I haven't actually seen PHOTOS of different coloured 
lightning...is it possible it's a "persistence of vision" thing by the 
human eye that gives the impression of different colours?

Yours in queryland,
Kevin from Wycheproof.


>From: Chris Maunder 
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Different colours of lightning
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:18:03 +1100
>
>I would imagine that the colour of lightning is also affected by
>the energy released. A more powerful bolt may ionise and energise
>the gases in the atmosphere by different amounts, causing different
>wavelengths of light ot be released. Any physicists on board who can
>provide some numbers?

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vance and UFO's..ummm ?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:31:42 PST
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Whoah!!!!

I'll have what he/she's having! :)

Kevin from Wycheproof.


>From: "Michael Thompson" 
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: 
>Subject: aus-wx: Vance and UFO's..ummm ?
>Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:40:16 +1000
>
>This is NOT my message, it was posted on a US newsgroup....but I am 
sure you
>will find it...well lets say interesting....
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------
>UFO Sightings Precede Cyclone Vance hit on Exmouth, Western Australia

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:33:04 +1100
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Different colours of lightning
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OK - one of these days I'll eventually get my lightning shots
up on the web but from memory I've got Blue, purple and orange
lightning shots. The Orange was, I think, mainly due to dust.

I was thinking the energy level theory was the way to go but
also Paul Graham's ideas are probably relevant too - however
the level of pollutants will usually be fairly small compared
to the level of N and O in the air so I would imagine the effects
of these two gases would be the major cause. BUT - I've really
got no idea so I'm going on a couple of years of Quantum physics
done back in '92. Anyway with a brain less atrophied than mine
wanna chime in? :)

Then again - the UFO and satanic cults causing havoc around
the EuroRussian Mansions in Downer's Adelaide during the 
WORST EVER cyclone to hit the west coast of Oz are probably
more to blame :P

 - Chris

At 19:10 25/03/99 , you wrote:
>Hi Chris!
>
>Sounds good to me! As you know the wavelengths of light are to do with 
>the photons released when different electrons drop back from excited 
>states (not Victoria I'm sad to say!)
>
>So on that premise, higher energy electrons will drop back further 
>(however what levels they drop to depends on how quickly they lose that 
>energy - energy levels being quantized and all...)
>
>If electrons drop back large amounts in one go they will therefore 
>release higher energy photons resulting in higher frequency light i.e. 
>blue, violet etc. while "small" drops would give off lower frequency 
>photons...
>
>BTW...I haven't actually seen PHOTOS of different coloured 
>lightning...is it possible it's a "persistence of vision" thing by the 
>human eye that gives the impression of different colours?
>
>Yours in queryland,
>Kevin from Wycheproof.