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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Friday, 9 April 1999

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001 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]              Perth Soundings
002 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Bangladesh Hailstorm
004 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
005 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Weather for next few days in Sydney NSW
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Severe Storms
007 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
008 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        RE: Tornado Rotation
009 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
011 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             reply to paul
012 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    reply to paul
013 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Question to Blair.
014 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             reply to paul
015 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          reply to paul
016 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    reply to paul
017 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    reply to paul
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Sydney wx
019 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             End Of Year Chase
020 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Sydney wx
021 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Bellenden Ker continues in fine form
022 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Looking good for storms in Perth
023 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          More Sydney wx
024 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          More More Sydney wx
025 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Southern Highlands Rain
026 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Highlands Rain
027 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   USA Chase ?
028 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   reply to paul
029 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   UK Met & is January good in NSW
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   RE: Tornado Rotation
031 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au  Re: Travelling North
032 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Re: Travelling North
033 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         My new web page
034 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         My new web page
035 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Weather for next few days in Sydney NSW
036 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           End Of Year Chase
037 DavidC at thevortex.com                           Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
038 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                Bellenden Ker continues in fine form
039 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Bellenden Ker continues in fine form

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001

Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 22:24:17 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Well I had to paste these to the list. How long has it been since we had
soundings this good :-)

Date:1200Z  8 APR 99
Station: YPPH
WMO ident:  94610
Latitude:  -31.93
Longitude: 115.95
Elevation:  29.00
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LEV PRES  HGHT  TEMP  DEWP  RH  DD   WETB DIR SPD THETA THE-V THE-W
THE-E   W
     mb     m     C     C    %   C     C  deg knt   K     K     K
K    g/kg
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SFC 1011    29  22.4  18.4  78  4.0  19.7 190   9 294.6 297.0 292.4
332.6 13.28
  1 1000   110  21.6  18.2  81  3.4  19.3 190   9 294.8 297.1 292.4
332.7 13.26
  2  850  1508  15.8  11.2  74  4.6  12.9 335  12 302.7 304.5 292.3
332.0  9.88
  3  700  3122   2.6   2.5  99  0.1   2.5 360  16 305.4 306.6 290.3
325.2  6.56
  4  500  5780 -11.9 -19.9  51  8.0 -14.3 300  34 318.5 318.8 289.9
323.9  1.58
  5  400  7450 -22.5 -35.5  30 13.0 -24.6 305  60 325.7 325.8 291.0
327.5  0.46
  6  300  9500 -35.9 -45.9  35 10.0 -36.8 295  92 334.8 334.8 293.2
335.6  0.21
  7  250 10740 -44.9 -58.9  19 14.0 -45.4 295 106 339.3 339.3 294.2
339.5  0.05
  8  200 12210 -50.9 -77.9   3 27.0 -51.3 295 104 352.2 352.2 297.1
352.2  0.00
  9  150 14040 -63.7                      290  86 360.3
 10  117 15535 -72.1                      292  33 371.4
 11  100 16460 -72.1                      265  24 388.4
TRP  117 15535 -72.1                              371.4
WND

Sounding variables and indices
1000-500 mb thick:      5670.00 m
Freezing level:          664.14 mb =  3598.61 m = 11806.31 ft
Wetbulb zero:            669.90 mb =  3469.15 m = 11381.58 ft
Precipitable water:        1.61 inches
Sfc-500 mean rel hum:     79.05 %
Est. max temperature:     29.86 C =   85.75 F
Sfc-Lift cond lev (LCL): 953.45 mb =   520.01 m =  1706.06 ft T:   19.90
C
700-500 lapse rate:        5.46 C/km
ThetaE index:              8.86 C Layer  850.0- 400.0 mb
Conv cond level (CCL):   830.37 mb =  1702.22 m =  5584.64 ft
  Mean mixing ratio:      12.35 g/kg
  Conv temperature:       30.85 C =   87.53 F
Cap Strength:              2.77 C
Lifted Index:             -1.84 C Risk: Thunderstorms probable
Lifted Index  at 300 mb:      2.81 C
Lifted Index  at 700 mb:     -2.61 C
Showalter Index:          -1.61 C Risk: Thunderstorms probable
Total Totals Index:       50.80 C Risk: Scattered heavy thunderstorms
  Vertical Totals Index:  27.70 C
  Cross Totals Index:     23.10 C
K Index:                  38.80   Risk: > 80 % chance of thunderstorms
Sweat Index:             228.40   Risk: None
Energy Index:             -1.66   Risk: Scattered severe thunderstorms

Parcel Indices
Parcel: using 100 mb layer
CAPE (B+):               375.02 J/kg
Max Up Vert Vel:          27.39 m/s
Conv Inhibition (B-):     97.10 J/kg
Cap Strength:              2.75 C
Lift Cond Lev (LCL):     908.93 mb =   931.40 m =  3055.75 ft
Lev Free Conv (LFC):     763.93 mb =  2395.50 m =  7859.16 ft
Equ Level (EL):          363.93 mb =  8123.45 m = 26651.42 ft
B at Equ Level:          373.21 J/kg
Max Parcel Lev (MPL):    233.93 mb = 11177.72 m = 36671.87 ft

Wind Parameters
Mean winds (0-6000m):            320.0 at   19.5 knts
Storm direction:                 350.0 at   14.7 knts
Shear (0-3000m)              pos:    3.9 neg:    0.3 tot:    4.2 10-3/s
Storm rel Dir Shear (0-3000m):    -112.5 deg
Storm rel helicity (0-3000m) pos:  121.4 neg:   -8.4 tot:  113.0 m^2/s^2

                             ave:   37.7 10^-3 m/s^2 rel:   0.25
Storm rel vorticity (0-3000m) horiz:    7.8 stream:    1.9 10^-3/s
Energy-Hel index:          0.28
Bulk Rich Number:          3.86
Bulk Shear:               97.05 m/s



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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:07:44 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Blair Trewin wrote:

> >     Hi Les
> >
> >     Unfortunately our BOM most senior staff are seeing the UK Met Office =
> > as an example to follow. New Zealand is also another ideal that our =
> > present government looks too.
> >
> It's probably more accurate to say that the present government and
> elements within the bureaucracy look to the UK and NZ as ideals.
>

not knowing much about aussie / NZ politics - i think they'd be mistaken.

Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts, upper
air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The chances of
seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar via the
Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare beasties
indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a passing
mention in the weather forecasts!

As the Met office is part of the Ministery of Defence privatised or not, upper
air charts, tephigrams, etc are essentially covered by the Official Secrets
Act.... and are not for public view Internet or otherwise

See for yourself what us Brits are up against... and protest before it happens
to you!

http://www.meto.gov.uk

See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place to go
judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse storms
and supercells!

Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les


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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 07:07:32 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Jimmy and all,

I'm not saying that this wasn't a supercell, nor am I saying it is...but
I'd like to bring up the December 16 hailstorm as a quick 'case study.' 
As you all may remember, on December 16 last year, a severe hailstorm
went through Brisbane and the Brisbane CBD, it had 10cm hail confirmed
in 2 areas!  One eyewitness said "the SMALLER hail was around golf ball
size, with most of it being around cricketball size, and some of the
larger hail was around tennis ball size with the 10cm being the largest
measured."  James and I previously assumed this as a probable supercell
as it did give golf ball hail over a fairly size-able distance (places
near Garden City apparently had 2cm hail, and then it increased steadily
as it headed for the CBD) and even at Redcliffe it had golf ball size
hail dump on some places, before moving out to sea.  But the BoM called
it a "pulse severe storm" rather then a supercell, (possibly because
there was no evidence of rotation?)

Anyway...this was just meant to be 'food for thought'

Anthony Cornelius

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Probably a supercell... We will see as it is starting to fire in the
> Northern Hemisphere
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
>
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Hi Les,

Jimmy here.
I would suggest  if you could come in the November/December period you
would be better off but around January, it depends when the storms are.

We are planning a big combined chase in last week November - first week
December which should be fun. But you come when you can. Somewhere there
has to be something Atlease in Darwin there has to be.

Jimmy Deguara

At 15:07 8/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>Blair Trewin wrote:
>
>> >     Hi Les
>> >
>> >     Unfortunately our BOM most senior staff are seeing the UK Met Office =
>> > as an example to follow. New Zealand is also another ideal that our =
>> > present government looks too.
>> >
>> It's probably more accurate to say that the present government and
>> elements within the bureaucracy look to the UK and NZ as ideals.
>>
>
>not knowing much about aussie / NZ politics - i think they'd be mistaken.
>
>Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts, upper
>air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The 
>chances of
>seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar via 
>the
>Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare beasties
>indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a
passing
>mention in the weather forecasts!
>
>As the Met office is part of the Ministery of Defence privatised or not, upper
>air charts, tephigrams, etc are essentially covered by the Official Secrets
>Act.... and are not for public view Internet or otherwise
>
>See for yourself what us Brits are up against... and protest before it happens
>to you!
>
>http://www.meto.gov.uk
>
>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place
to go
>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse 
>storms
>and supercells!
>
>Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les
>
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather for next few days in Sydney NSW
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I think with the high positioned down in the Tasman and Bass Straight, I
think with the E-SE regime, we can expect showers over the next few days
with some locally heavy falls particularly if an upper air disturbance
develops within the trough region.

Jimmy Deguara
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I think we have to be really carefull about labelling anything to do with
nature. As we still dont know 95% of what causes alot of weather phenomena,
it is really easy to get into labelling things so we can explain the
unexplainable. I wouldnt really care whatever it was, it was just a severe
storm that had monster hail - and I'd be looking for damn shelter pretty
fast!

Heavy showers here last night - the BOM hit the nail spot on! I witnessed a
decent congestus forming near Laurieton whcih moved up and caused the
downpour. More of the same on the way today.


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Hi Jimmy

dont always count on Darwin !, with TC Thelma last december we had 3 storms
in the 10 days we were there, all at night and over the ocean... :(

Matt Smith

>Hi Les,
>
>Jimmy here.
>I would suggest  if you could come in the November/December period you
>would be better off but around January, it depends when the storms are.
>
>We are planning a big combined chase in last week November - first week
>December which should be fun. But you come when you can. Somewhere there
>has to be something Atlease in Darwin there has to be.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 15:07 8/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Blair Trewin wrote:
>>
>>> >     Hi Les
>>> >
>>> >     Unfortunately our BOM most senior staff are seeing the UK Met
Office =
>>> > as an example to follow. New Zealand is also another ideal that our =
>>> > present government looks too.
>>> >
>>> It's probably more accurate to say that the present government and
>>> elements within the bureaucracy look to the UK and NZ as ideals.
>>>
>>
>>not knowing much about aussie / NZ politics - i think they'd be mistaken.
>>
>>Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts,
upper
>>air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The 
>>chances of
>>seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar
via 
>>the
>>Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare
beasties
>>indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a
>passing
>>mention in the weather forecasts!
>>
>>As the Met office is part of the Ministery of Defence privatised or not,
upper
>>air charts, tephigrams, etc are essentially covered by the Official Secrets
>>Act.... and are not for public view Internet or otherwise
>>
>>See for yourself what us Brits are up against... and protest before it
happens
>>to you!
>>
>>http://www.meto.gov.uk
>>
>>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place
>to go
>>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse 
>>storms
>>and supercells!
>>
>>Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les
>>
>>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: RE: Tornado Rotation
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> 
> Sorry Blair, my 30 year ago reference was referring to when my father first
> told me, the actual date would be back when he was a child, around 1930's at
> a guess.
> 
> Michael
> 
>From the Bathurst temperature records, the only possibility - and a
remote one at that - would seem to be 1932 (maximum of 15.4 on the 24th,
minimum of 4.9 on the 25th - which is their lowest on record for 
Christmas Day). Bathurst's lowest max on Christmas Day (since 1921) is
16.2 in 1994.

As for Boxing Day 1968, according to the NSW Monthly Weather Review
for December 1968, there was snow above 1200m on the Snowy Mountains 
and ranges in the ACT, but no reference was made to the Central 
Tablelands (not that there is much country significantly above 1200m
there). I'll be writing this event up for the next AMOS Bulletin.

Blair Trewin
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Yeah But Matt we had a Cat 5 TC just miss us, and we had 700mm+ in 2 days!
Thats not too bad!!

Paul






Matt Smith  on 09/04/99 10:40:47

Hi Jimmy

dont always count on Darwin !, with TC Thelma last december we had 3 storms
in the 10 days we were there, all at night and over the ocean... :(

Matt Smith

>Hi Les,
>
>Jimmy here.
>I would suggest  if you could come in the November/December period you
>would be better off but around January, it depends when the storms are.
>
>We are planning a big combined chase in last week November - first week
>December which should be fun. But you come when you can. Somewhere there
>has to be something Atlease in Darwin there has to be.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 15:07 8/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Blair Trewin wrote:
>>
>>> >     Hi Les
>>> >
>>> >     Unfortunately our BOM most senior staff are seeing the UK Met
Office =
>>> > as an example to follow. New Zealand is also another ideal that our =
>>> > present government looks too.
>>> >
>>> It's probably more accurate to say that the present government and
>>> elements within the bureaucracy look to the UK and NZ as ideals.
>>>
>>
>>not knowing much about aussie / NZ politics - i think they'd be mistaken.
>>
>>Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts,
upper
>>air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The
>>chances of
>>seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar
via
>>the
>>Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare
beasties
>>indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a
>passing
>>mention in the weather forecasts!
>>
>>As the Met office is part of the Ministery of Defence privatised or not,
upper
>>air charts, tephigrams, etc are essentially covered by the Official
Secrets
>>Act.... and are not for public view Internet or otherwise
>>
>>See for yourself what us Brits are up against... and protest before it
happens
>>to you!
>>
>>http://www.meto.gov.uk
>>
>>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place
>to go
>>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse
>>storms
>>and supercells!
>>
>>Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les
>>
>>
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That was the reason there were few storms Matt. Usually you can guarantee
one  a day or thereabouts


Jimmy Deguara

At 10:46 9/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Yeah But Matt we had a Cat 5 TC just miss us, and we had 700mm+ in 2 days!
>Thats not too bad!!
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Matt Smith  on 09/04/99 10:40:47
>
>Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com
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>To:   aussie-weather at world.std.com
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>Subject:  Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
>
>
>
>
>Hi Jimmy
>
>dont always count on Darwin !, with TC Thelma last december we had 3 storms
>in the 10 days we were there, all at night and over the ocean... :(
>
>Matt Smith
>
>>Hi Les,
>>
>>Jimmy here.
>>I would suggest  if you could come in the November/December period you
>>would be better off but around January, it depends when the storms are.
>>
>>We are planning a big combined chase in last week November - first week
>>December which should be fun. But you come when you can. Somewhere there
>>has to be something Atlease in Darwin there has to be.
>>
>>Jimmy Deguara
>>
>>At 15:07 8/04/99 +0100, you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Blair Trewin wrote:
>>>
>>>> >     Hi Les
>>>> >
>>>> >     Unfortunately our BOM most senior staff are seeing the UK Met
>Office =
>>>> > as an example to follow. New Zealand is also another ideal that our =
>>>> > present government looks too.
>>>> >
>>>> It's probably more accurate to say that the present government and
>>>> elements within the bureaucracy look to the UK and NZ as ideals.
>>>>
>>>
>>>not knowing much about aussie / NZ politics - i think they'd be mistaken.
>>>
>>>Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts,
>upper
>>>air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The
>>>chances of
>>>seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar
>via
>>>the
>>>Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare
>beasties
>>>indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a
>>passing
>>>mention in the weather forecasts!
>>>
>>>As the Met office is part of the Ministery of Defence privatised or not,
>upper
>>>air charts, tephigrams, etc are essentially covered by the Official
>Secrets
>>>Act.... and are not for public view Internet or otherwise
>>>
>>>See for yourself what us Brits are up against... and protest before it
>happens
>>>to you!
>>>
>>>http://www.meto.gov.uk
>>>
>>>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place
>>to go
>>>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse
>>>storms
>>>and supercells!
>>>
>>>Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les
>>>
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true paul i guess i shouldnt be complaining hey !

BTW everyone  theres a tonne of warnings out in the US for severe
storms/tornadoes at the moment, thanks to anthony and steve for the info

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Thats where Our next trip will be Matt. Maybe Next year? 12 Months to save.
And we could hook up with some chasers over there, and then organise for
them to come our here?

Would be worthwhile!


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Blair: is it possible to access any data from TC Thelma? Did the darwin BOM
do a report on Thelmas interacrtion with Darwin (such as rain, Maximum wind
gusts, pressure etc.).

Or can you give me an email address contact so I can chase it up. I am more
interested for the chasers who were in Darwin's benefit but it would make
interesting reading.


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hehe paul, 

im thinking about how much the chase at the end of the year is going to
cost, let alone a chase to the states, (i wouldnt rule it out, it would be
great if it could happen!)...and if i win lotto ill shout everyone a trip
over there !

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>
>Thats where Our next trip will be Matt. Maybe Next year? 12 Months to save.
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If you do decide to go overseas, keep James Harris and Grant Boyden (2KY
deals) in mind as both of them can help with special group deals.

I would be interested in going but I don't think I can take too much time
off at this stage. I will stick to the oz at this stage for the next few years

Jimmy Deguara


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Matt:- Can I have some more details regarding the end of year chase?
Where,when how much??


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I am lucky I suppose because I have 3 months Long service due feb 2000, at
full pay. I also have almost 6 weeks Holidays owing so I can take some time
but I would look at say 4 weeks (I know thats not a real long period but
hey look at whats happening at the moment - plenty of action!)

Maybe this is something we can toss around the list now? Anyone else
interested?


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There seems to be a localised wind or airstream change to my SE. Cloud has
built up as a result of winds chaging from the E-SE to perhaps more SSE.
Some scuds are rising under the bases of the cumulus band that has
developed in the southern parts of Sydney. Quite interesting. And yes, I
think there is showers in it. Matt should be very close to this change ro
perhaps through it

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Hey Hey !

Ok it has been bought to my attention by Jimmy that we need set dates for
the chase, this is the one thing that has to be made "concrete".

Im after the dates you are available to chase at the end of the year,
suggestions of starting it around Nov 20 onwards have been flying around so
ill put that as a start date. Tell me what date you think you might meet up
with us/start chasing, and when you have to leave the holiday... (Eg you
can start chasing Nov 28, but finish Dec 5) 

Any other idea's/helpfull hints/suggestions about organising this will be
appreciated, ive had info from Paul and Jimmy so far which has been very
helpful, just want to cover all bases..
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Roger that Jimmy

Its right over my head and is moving NWish... nice dark bases as well...
but as you said probably showers will come of it

Matt

>There seems to be a localised wind or airstream change to my SE. Cloud has
>built up as a result of winds chaging from the E-SE to perhaps more SSE.
>Some scuds are rising under the bases of the cumulus band that has
>developed in the southern parts of Sydney. Quite interesting. And yes, I
>think there is showers in it. Matt should be very close to this change ro
>perhaps through it
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Bellenden Ker continues in fine form
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Bellenden Ker continues on its merry (and moist) way. The March figures
are now in and come in at an impressive 2823mm for the month. This 
includes 1633mm in the four days ending on 16 March (unfortunately, two
observations were missed in this time so we don't have 24-hour totals
for this period).

This is a March record for the site (previously 2157mm in 1985). The
total for the year so far is 6063mm.

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Sunny and 26.3C here on the moment, but looking good for some thunderstorms
later today with a line of storms already out to the west.

PERTH AND METROPOLITAN:
A few showers and thunderstorms, clearing later tomorrow.
S/SE winds.
 TOMORROW'S  MIN: 17  MAX: 26

 TODAY'S
 UV INDEX: 07 (Very high)  decreasing to 3 (high) under cloud.

 TODAY'S
 FIRE DANGER: Coastal Plain: High
                      Hills: High

 A surface trough is situated inland from the the west coast.  With a
middle level disturbance a few showers and thunderstorms are
forecast.  A line of showers/storms is located on the radar about
150km west of the city.
This activity is likely to clear during Saturday afternoon.
Fine weather is likely to return during Sunday.

OUTLOOKS FOR PERTH FOR:
   SUNDAY:  Fine.                         Max 27
   MONDAY:  Fine.                         Max 27
  TUESDAY:  Fine.                         Max 30

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I have just noticed a cumulonimbus to the far NNE. It is off the coast of
Newcastle I suppose. We also had a few drops with a cople of light showers
from the clouds dissipating here at Schofields.

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Are you sick of me yet

Developing heavy showers rain right OVER Scohields and moving NW  This is
against the law of Schofields  we normally miss out. Nice havey shower
localised and you hear the rain coming from the near distance  I love it.

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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Hi Jimmy and others,

Today i was down at Bundanoon which is near Bowral in the Southern Highlands
and there was almost continous light rain/drizzle there. As soon as I came
just north of Mittagong the rain stopped. The rain seemed to be staying
right over that region and hardly effecting the Sydney Basin at all. It was
definately an excellent example of the localised nature of rainfall and the
way the Illawarra Escapment helps to bring about rain through orographic
lifting.

Matthew Piper

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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We had rain from 8am to about 12.30pm. Very heavy at one stage at 11am, at a
guess 50mm an hour.

The setting sun has lit some Cb to the SE out to sea, which is a good sign,
it means that showers may not be confined to the usual Hunter northwards.

Michael

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>
>Today i was down at Bundanoon which is near Bowral in the Southern
Highlands
>and there was almost continous light rain/drizzle there. As soon as I came
>just north of Mittagong the rain stopped. The rain seemed to be staying
>right over that region and hardly effecting the Sydney Basin at all. It was
>definately an excellent example of the localised nature of rainfall and the
>way the Illawarra Escapment helps to bring about rain through orographic
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: USA Chase ?
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:40:10 +1000
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We somehow need to turn the exchange rate around a little, I struck a deal
with my wife last year in that I let her go on a holiday to the UK on the
condition I can go to the USA storm chasing sometime in the future.

Unfortunately the UK trip ate away a lot of the money I thought I could use
for a US trip, so I will not going until the dollar hits at least 70 cents.

I have been to the US twice and a group can save money, just in car hire for
example ( did I say those naughty words car hire ? ), anyway everybody does
it in the USA and a weekly rental costs the same as a daily one here. Most
everything else is cheaper, petrol, motels, take away food, film,
entertainment.

Michael




-----Original Message-----
>hehe paul,
>
>im thinking about how much the chase at the end of the year is going to
>cost, let alone a chase to the states, (i wouldnt rule it out, it would be
>great if it could happen!)...and if i win lotto ill shout everyone a trip
>over there !
>
>Matt Smith
>>
>>
>>Thats where Our next trip will be Matt. Maybe Next year? 12 Months to
save.
>>And we could hook up with some chasers over there, and then organise for
>>them to come our here?
>>
>>Would be worthwhile!
>>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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I have about 19 years of long service, whatever that equals  !!!! I had even
forgot about it....doohh.

Michael

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>I am lucky I suppose because I have 3 months Long service due feb 2000, at
>full pay. I also have almost 6 weeks Holidays owing so I can take some time
>but I would look at say 4 weeks (I know thats not a real long period but
>hey look at whats happening at the moment - plenty of action!)
>
>Maybe this is something we can toss around the list now? Anyone else
>interested?
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: UK Met & is January good in NSW
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It is pretty similar here, but not as bad. I doubt we in Australia will ever
see doppler via Internet without big $$ associated with it.
At least our Bureau does provide a trial model called GASP, and I find it
quite useful and often a bit more accurate for longer terms ( The US models
after 72hours tend to lose accuracy ). But anything like Lift Index etc has
to be sourced from US servers.

>Us UK chasers have to depend on American websites for Bracknell charts,
upper
>air charts, CAPEs, lifted indices and even humble lightning data. The
chances of
>seeing a hook echo over the UK or severe line squall by UK Doppler Radar
via the
>Internet are, frankly, zilch... even though supercells are very rare
beasties
>indeed you won't be told about it by the Met Office except perhaps in a
passing
>mention in the weather forecasts!
>

January in Darwin is getting too far into Monsoon season, you will get
storms but the monsoon cloud mass will make observation a pain. NSW in
January is generally good, consistency on the North Coast, Tablelands and
plains is at a peak, although the % of severe may be lower than say Nov -
Dec the actual number is higher. There is one problem with January - you are
in school holidays, accommodation away from the coast will be easy enough,
but don't expect discounts, but on the coast it will be heavilly booked.

Victoria had a very good Janaury this year, you can if you are prepared to
do the kilometres follow a trough system from Western Victoria right through
to SE Queensland.

Michael



>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place
to go
>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse
storms
>and supercells!
>
>Apologies for any geographical ignorance - Les
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: RE: Tornado Rotation
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Thanks I will try to get him to cough up some more info, mind you I think it
was small hail.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
>> Sorry Blair, my 30 year ago reference was referring to when my father
first
>> told me, the actual date would be back when he was a child, around 1930's
at
>> a guess.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>From the Bathurst temperature records, the only possibility - and a
>remote one at that - would seem to be 1932 (maximum of 15.4 on the 24th,
>minimum of 4.9 on the 25th - which is their lowest on record for
>Christmas Day). Bathurst's lowest max on Christmas Day (since 1921) is
>16.2 in 1994.
>
>As for Boxing Day 1968, according to the NSW Monthly Weather Review
>for December 1968, there was snow above 1200m on the Snowy Mountains
>and ranges in the ACT, but no reference was made to the Central
>Tablelands (not that there is much country significantly above 1200m
>there). I'll be writing this event up for the next AMOS Bulletin.
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:52:17 +1000
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au]
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Susan From Balmain

Hi All.

On Monday of this coming week I will be heading north to Maclean for a
couple of weeks on holidays - hopefully spending time lounging around on
a beach or doing a bit of rock fishing too.  However while there, I
would also expect a storm or 3 (fingers crossed - although given my
record for Sydney this season it will probably be non stop sunshine and
balmy evenings).

Anyone got any information on what sort of conditions could be expected
over the next  couple of weeks up on the North Coast?  Additionally, I
have the most perfect viewing platform up there - Maclean Lookout - 360
degree views, very little tree interference and in the areas that the
trees do block I can drop around 20 metres down the hill and get an
uninterrupted view.  Has a view west to the mountains - east out to sea
- south to the hills just north of Coffs Harbour and north up to Evans
Head region.  Better yet - it is only a quick 5 minute drive up the hill
from my Mum's place.

While up there I would expect to spend a bit of time at Broom's Head
where there is another lookout with 360 degree views although the hills
behind the beach to the west do interfer a fraction.  Views to the
horizon out to sea east - north to Iluka area - south to Coffs Harbour
again.

So hopefully I MIGHT actually experience my first storm since 14th
December (or was it the 16th)  and might actually be in a prime location
to watch it.

Those 2 sites you might like to add to your site list.  However I don't
know the map references.  For the first one - follow the signs to the
Lookout in Maclean, for the second one, just follow the road around the
beach up onto Ocean View Lookout in Brooms Head.

See you all in a week or two - won't be able to access the internet
while away I don't think.  So if anything good happens anywhere else,
looks like I miss out on it.

BTW  is that something nasty building up off Cape York?

Happy Chasing
Susan

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Susan, I think the types of storms you can expect are heavy rainfall,
coastal stuff nthing severe I would say. You can expect a fair bit of rain
it is raining there now. Onshore winds and intermittent showers rain, maybe
heavy rain etc  So a mixed bag

Jimmy Deguara

At 17:52 8/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Susan From Balmain
>
>Hi All.
>
>On Monday of this coming week I will be heading north to Maclean for a
>couple of weeks on holidays - hopefully spending time lounging around on
>a beach or doing a bit of rock fishing too.  However while there, I
>would also expect a storm or 3 (fingers crossed - although given my
>record for Sydney this season it will probably be non stop sunshine and
>balmy evenings).
>
>Anyone got any information on what sort of conditions could be expected
>over the next  couple of weeks up on the North Coast?  Additionally, I
>have the most perfect viewing platform up there - Maclean Lookout - 360
>degree views, very little tree interference and in the areas that the
>trees do block I can drop around 20 metres down the hill and get an
>uninterrupted view.  Has a view west to the mountains - east out to sea
>- south to the hills just north of Coffs Harbour and north up to Evans
>Head region.  Better yet - it is only a quick 5 minute drive up the hill
>from my Mum's place.
>
>While up there I would expect to spend a bit of time at Broom's Head
>where there is another lookout with 360 degree views although the hills
>behind the beach to the west do interfer a fraction.  Views to the
>horizon out to sea east - north to Iluka area - south to Coffs Harbour
>again.
>
>So hopefully I MIGHT actually experience my first storm since 14th
>December (or was it the 16th)  and might actually be in a prime location
>to watch it.
>
>Those 2 sites you might like to add to your site list.  However I don't
>know the map references.  For the first one - follow the signs to the
>Lookout in Maclean, for the second one, just follow the road around the
>beach up onto Ocean View Lookout in Brooms Head.
>
>See you all in a week or two - won't be able to access the internet
>while away I don't think.  So if anything good happens anywhere else,
>looks like I miss out on it.
>
>BTW  is that something nasty building up off Cape York?
>
>Happy Chasing
>Susan
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: My new web page
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:59:05 +1000
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Hi all

Just finished the first stages of my new web page. It's on Melbourne
weather. It has observations and forecasts. I will be keeping an archive of
pages so that you can go back and see what the weather was like on a
particular day.

I will also be adding a feature where you can submit your own forecasts.
Hell they have to be better than mine so have a go.

See the page at www.labyrinth.net.au~nsykes

Any improvemnets, ideas e-mail me

P.S went out a bought a rain gauge, Nylex 1000, looks pretty good.

Go the Hawks on the weekend

Nick Sykes

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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Whoops

URL is www.labyrinth.net.au/~nsykes

Nick Sykes


----- Original Message -----
> Hi all
>
> Just finished the first stages of my new web page. It's on Melbourne
> weather. It has observations and forecasts. I will be keeping an archive
of
> pages so that you can go back and see what the weather was like on a
> particular day.
>
> I will also be adding a feature where you can submit your own forecasts.
> Hell they have to be better than mine so have a go.
>
> See the page at www.labyrinth.net.au~nsykes
>
> Any improvemnets, ideas e-mail me
>
> P.S went out a bought a rain gauge, Nylex 1000, looks pretty good.
>
> Go the Hawks on the weekend
>
> Nick Sykes
>
> nsykes at labyrinth.net.au
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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 21:21:34 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Already there's been a precursor to what we might expect..some quite
heavy (but very brief)
showers here (Seven Hills) tonight..also the US model for 6 days hence
has a
surface low over the NSW -Victorian border being undercut by a high
pressure
ridge from the Bight..good chance of another east coast low developing
say 36 hours later?
More immediately, I wouldn't be surprised to see another 70-100 mm in
the next 5 days..

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> I think with the high positioned down in the Tasman and Bass Straight, I
> think with the E-SE regime, we can expect showers over the next few days
> with some locally heavy falls particularly if an upper air disturbance
> develops within the trough region.
> 
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: End Of Year Chase
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:42:21 +1000
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Reckon I'll leave Melbourne with whoever comes with me on Nov 20 at the
earliest (take a couple of days to get to N NSW) - so I'd say we'd join up
about Nov 22/23 depending on whether we find anything exciting on the way.
Probably have to leave on Dec 2nd (at the latest) for home.

The length of our stay will depend on when everyone can get time off - but
it gives you start / finish dates.

Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne

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>
>
>Hey Hey !
>
>Ok it has been bought to my attention by Jimmy that we need set dates for
>the chase, this is the one thing that has to be made "concrete".
>
>Im after the dates you are available to chase at the end of the year,
>suggestions of starting it around Nov 20 onwards have been flying around so
>ill put that as a start date. Tell me what date you think you might meet up
>with us/start chasing, and when you have to leave the holiday... (Eg you
>can start chasing Nov 28, but finish Dec 5)
>
>Any other idea's/helpfull hints/suggestions about organising this will be
>appreciated, ive had info from Paul and Jimmy so far which has been very
>helpful, just want to cover all bases..
>Thanks alot
>
>Matt Smith
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From: DavidC at thevortex.com
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>See you all in January - would it be correct to say that NSW is the place to go
>judging by the photographs??? I don't want Darwin monster CB - just pulse storms
>and supercells!

Hi Les and all

Statistically I'm sure that NSW would be by 
far the most active state for severe 
category storms, but Victoria has a much 
better road network and I suspect that Vic 
get a higher 'proportion' (as opposed to 
number) of tornadic storms than the other 
states - but the latter is just an 
uneducated guess. In reality the states 
Victoria/NSW/QLD comprise one BIG chasing 
playground. The other severe storm area is 
the southern area of Western Australia 
which also gets some very big storms - but 
from what I have seen this area gets fewer 
storms and seems less predictable than the 
eastern states although this could, to some 
extent, reflect the even lower population 
density over there. As for Darwin, yeah 
give that a miss as far as storm chasing is 
concerned unless you favour lightning or 
are just desperate to be assured of a 
thunderstorm.

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At 01:33 PM 9/04/99 +1000, Blair Trewin wrote:
>Bellenden Ker continues on its merry (and moist) way. The March figures
>are now in and come in at an impressive 2823mm for the month. This 
>includes 1633mm in the four days ending on 16 March (unfortunately, two
>observations were missed in this time so we don't have 24-hour totals
>for this period).
>
>This is a March record for the site (previously 2157mm in 1985). The
>total for the year so far is 6063mm.

What is the record rainfall for a year at Bellenden Ker ( or anywhere else
in Australia)? I could look it up myself, but i'm lazy and i'm tired.

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My last obs for a record year was 11,000 something although that may have
changed

Jimmy Deguara

At 23:35 9/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>At 01:33 PM 9/04/99 +1000, Blair Trewin wrote:
>>Bellenden Ker continues on its merry (and moist) way. The March figures
>>are now in and come in at an impressive 2823mm for the month. This 
>>includes 1633mm in the four days ending on 16 March (unfortunately, two
>>observations were missed in this time so we don't have 24-hour totals
>>for this period).
>>
>>This is a March record for the site (previously 2157mm in 1985). The
>>total for the year so far is 6063mm.
>
>What is the record rainfall for a year at Bellenden Ker ( or anywhere else
>in Australia)? I could look it up myself, but i'm lazy and i'm tired.
>
>Ben Munro
>
>
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