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001 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
002 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk Brisbane wx
003 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Brisbane wx
004 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Brisbane wx
005 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Look at animation
006 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Perth Storms
007 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk Brisbane wx
008 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk Brisbane wx
009 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au] Brisbane wx/ BOM weather Info
010 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Brisbane wx
011 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Michael Bath called from the North Coast
012 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Michael Bath called from the North Coast
013 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk Brisbane wx/ BOM weather Info
014 DavidC at thevortex.com Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Illawarra just south of the convection
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Brisbane wx
018 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Showers in Canberra
019 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Severe thunderstorm advice - WA
020 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk Brisbane wx
021 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Melbourne Storm Chasers update
022 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Brisbane wx
023 Andrew Wall [astroman at wantree.com.au] Hi all from S.Australia
024 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Seven Hills weather summary
025 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Hi all from S.Australia
026 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Melbourne Storm Chasers update
027 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Rain,rain &more rain
028 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Brissie Lightning
029 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Rain,rain &more rain
030 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com] Spam
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001
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:15:36 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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DavidC at thevortex.com wrote:Hi Les and all
>
> Statistically I'm sure that NSW would be by
> far the most active state for severe
> category storms, but Victoria has a much
> better road network and I suspect that Vic
> get a higher 'proportion' (as opposed to
> number) of tornadic storms than the other
> states - but the latter is just an
> uneducated guess.
There are plenty tornadoes in the UK and probably more that aren't spotted....
perhaps NSW tornadoes just don't get spotted due to the poor road network???
The storms don't have to be necessarily tornadic - just severe pulse type or
supercell or even just "severe" will do. Australia seems to be where its at as far as
this kind of severe weather is concerned and its DIFFERENT from the Great Plains
which everyone seems to think is the only place in the world you get this kind of
stuff. Hence the reason for wanting to go to Australia.
What kind of distances are we talking about here.... Presumably thousands of miles /
km per chase???
No problem there I do thousands of miles in a week up and down the UK.
> As for Darwin, yeah
> give that a miss as far as storm chasing is
> concerned unless you favour lightning or
> are just desperate to be assured of a
> thunderstorm.
I've seen plenty lightning here.... our higher latitude assures us of more CG
strikes. I'd only go to Darwin if everything else was dead.
Les
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Looks like we'll get some interesting weather up here over the next couple
of days, i've only had 27mm overnight.. but there's a large area of very
heavy rain over the southern Brisbane suburbs right now.. and i wouldnt' be
surprised if there are some 100mm+ totals down there. The BOM changed
their forecasts overnight from showers to rain for us today with local
thunder, and again tomorrow. The models (especially trusty old AVN) has
the heaviest rain today for Southern QLD and NE NSW, and not really looking
that good for rain on sunday for Brisbane on sunday - one thing i find
interesting is fairly strong winds at the 850mb level (30, up to 35 knots
at times).. It's quite windy here at the moment, and it'll be interesting
to see how windy it gets during the day if those winds mix down with some
of the lumpy showers/rain areas.. 43 hits on the tracker as i'm typing this
BTW (there were 2 anvil crawlers, and 1 cg that i saw about midnight that
didn't show up on the tracker, so there would be quite a bit of Th
under/Lightning in some of these local storms)
6am in the morning, i should probably get some sleep now..
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane wx
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:37:09 +1000
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Hi, James here (Brisbane too)
Yeah its been quite a wild night/early morning here in the southern suburbs.
Occasional thunder with steady-heavy rain and winds at times averaging
23-26kn. Unfortunately because of our heavily treed backyard I'm unable to
give anyone an accurate rain measurement but I'd say there was 30-35mm here
but much more south of us. It shapes as a very miserable wet cold weekend
here in Brisbane. (bad for the footy tomorrow...go Broncos!)
6.37am: light rain with big drops....wind only about 15kn ESE
James
brrrrrr
>Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
>Looks like we'll get some interesting weather up here over the next couple
>of days, i've only had 27mm overnight.. but there's a large area of very
>heavy rain over the southern Brisbane suburbs right now.. and i wouldnt' be
>surprised if there are some 100mm+ totals down there. The BOM changed
>their forecasts overnight from showers to rain for us today with local
>thunder, and again tomorrow. The models (especially trusty old AVN) has
>the heaviest rain today for Southern QLD and NE NSW, and not really looking
>that good for rain on sunday for Brisbane on sunday - one thing i find
>interesting is fairly strong winds at the 850mb level (30, up to 35 knots
>at times).. It's quite windy here at the moment, and it'll be interesting
>to see how windy it gets during the day if those winds mix down with some
>of the lumpy showers/rain areas.. 43 hits on the tracker as i'm typing this
>BTW (there were 2 anvil crawlers, and 1 cg that i saw about midnight that
>didn't show up on the tracker, so there would be quite a bit of Th
>under/Lightning in some of these local storms)
>
>6am in the morning, i should probably get some sleep now..
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane wx
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:47:33 +1000
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Me again
Just some links to watch:
Brisbane webcam (shows cars in rain) http://www.eyeonbrisbane.citec.com.au/
Gold Coast Seaway Cam (fine there right now) http://seaway.winshop.com.au/
Lightning Tracker: http://bastion.energex.com.au/strike/
Satellite Image Eastern Aus: http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsd/gmsd.jpg
My homepage (of course) http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
Enjoy your weekend!!!!!!
>Hi, James here (Brisbane too)
>
>Yeah its been quite a wild night/early morning here in the southern
suburbs.
>Occasional thunder with steady-heavy rain and winds at times averaging
>23-26kn. Unfortunately because of our heavily treed backyard I'm unable to
>give anyone an accurate rain measurement but I'd say there was 30-35mm here
>but much more south of us. It shapes as a very miserable wet cold weekend
>here in Brisbane. (bad for the footy tomorrow...go Broncos!)
>6.37am: light rain with big drops....wind only about 15kn ESE
>
>James
>brrrrrr
>
>>Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>>
>>Looks like we'll get some interesting weather up here over the next couple
>>of days, i've only had 27mm overnight.. but there's a large area of very
>>heavy rain over the southern Brisbane suburbs right now.. and i wouldnt'
be
>>surprised if there are some 100mm+ totals down there. The BOM changed
>>their forecasts overnight from showers to rain for us today with local
>>thunder, and again tomorrow. The models (especially trusty old AVN) has
>>the heaviest rain today for Southern QLD and NE NSW, and not really
looking
>>that good for rain on sunday for Brisbane on sunday - one thing i find
>>interesting is fairly strong winds at the 850mb level (30, up to 35 knots
>>at times).. It's quite windy here at the moment, and it'll be interesting
>>to see how windy it gets during the day if those winds mix down with some
>>of the lumpy showers/rain areas.. 43 hits on the tracker as i'm typing
this
>>BTW (there were 2 anvil crawlers, and 1 cg that i saw about midnight that
>>didn't show up on the tracker, so there would be quite a bit of Th
>>under/Lightning in some of these local storms)
>>
>>6am in the morning, i should probably get some sleep now..
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Subject: aus-wx: Look at animation
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Quite intersting to click for an animation at
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html
Make sure you select the animation and guess where the east coast is. The
cloud mass is developing near Brisbane and beginning to circulate somewhat.
Also the cloud tops are quite cool over a wide area. And the clouds near
Sydney are also moving in.
I think Sydney is also in for some localised thunder as a band of
cumulonimbus with anvils pointing W approaching. They may further develop
during the day as the system interacts with the heating and perhaps a
surface low develops near Brisbane will freshen the winds here. Will see
what happens
Jimmy Deguara
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Currently its 5am here in Perth, and a large band of thunderstorms and
showers is on the radar just to the west and slowly moving closer.
FORECAST FOR METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 0505 hours on Saturday, 10/04/99
ISSUED BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
FOR TODAY AND TONIGHT
The temperature at 5:00am was 21.0 degrees Celsius.
PERTH AND METROPOLITAN:
A road weather alert is current.
Showery periods and a few thunderstorms.
SE winds. Squalls with thunderstorms.
MAX: 27
UV INDEX: 07 (Very high) decreasing to 3 (high) under cloud.
FIRE DANGER: Coastal Plain: High decreasing to low with rain
Hills: High decreasing to low with rain
A surface trough is situated near the west coast. With a middle
level disturbance affecting the city, showers and thunderstorms are
forecast. This activity is likely to clear during Saturday night as
the middle level trough contracts east.
Fine weather is likely to return during Sunday.
Jacob
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7am.....can't sleep :)
Thismornings weather summary has a few lumpy falls around the Gold Coast
area mainly, this is only to 3am this morning too, the 9am totals will be
bigger still these areas:
In the 6 hours to 3am Saturday generally light to moderate falls were
reported from coastal areas and nearby ranges, and particularly around the
southeast corner of Queensland where there were isolated heavy falls. The
highest total reported was 122mm at Southport, some of the lesser totals
included Springbrook 61mm, Lady Elliot Island 57mm, Coolangatta 43mm,
Carbrook 52mm, Binna Burra 46mm, Marsden 34mm, Waterford 33mm and Numibah
31mm.
One thing that concerns me is that i just called a BOM forecaster, and when
i asked about the heavy rain in Southern Brisbane suburbs early thismorning
he paused, and didn't quite know what i was talking about.. he loaded up
something (a radar loop i figure) and sounded quite surprised at what he
saw.. but he couldn't tell me any rainfall amounts that were coming in from
around the place so far (When normally they can rattle off a bunch of
figures from AWS's i take it).. I dont think there should have been a
warning out, but it would be nice if he knew what was going on around him..
makes me wonder what he is doing? I call the BOM forecasters quite often to
get their oppinions/thoughts on matters, and normally the ppl i get are
sharp, on the ball and know exactly what i'm talking about straight off and
can dazzle me with figures.. then sometimes i get what i got this morning
(one time the person i got could hardly speak english).. I think it spoils
it for the Forecasters/ppl that are very very good at BOM.. I
'm probably dribbling, just some thoughts..
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Back again..
As well as the links James posted, BOM still have a page that has Brisbane
512k radar images - i'm sure allot of you already know about it, normally
updated every half an hour.. but updated more when there's allot of action
around it seems.. They have some really good products on this page, they
also have a sat pic for either QLD, or a National shot that is taken every
hour, and is available 20 mins after! that's the best we have on the web at
the moment (without paying for it).. here's the URL:
http://ssu1.bom.gov.au/private/sample469.pl
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane wx/ BOM weather Info
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:50:26 +1000
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Bodie
Great site didn't know about it, those Brisbane people sure have it sweet,
wish it was australia wide
Nick Sykes
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> Back again..
>
> As well as the links James posted, BOM still have a page that has Brisbane
> 512k radar images - i'm sure allot of you already know about it, normally
> updated every half an hour.. but updated more when there's allot of action
> around it seems.. They have some really good products on this page, they
> also have a sat pic for either QLD, or a National shot that is taken every
> hour, and is available 20 mins after! that's the best we have on the web
at
> the moment (without paying for it).. here's the URL:
>
> http://ssu1.bom.gov.au/private/sample469.pl
>
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:51:13 +1000
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Hi all,
Well - I certainly went to bed far too early last night (3:15am), this
was when things began to get interesting just after! And of course,
when I woke up at 8:40am, everything began to quieten down again, oh
well!
We had 16.9mm overnight, at times we also had some gusty winds (only up
to 20kn) and I observed some sheet lightning out to sea (no CG's or
crawlers though) and heard some thunder periodically.
The 9am rainfall figures surprised me somewhat, as I thought they'd be
higher (particually Logan and Coolongatta's)
RAINFALL SOUTHEAST COAST: [15]
Amberley 0.2 Beaudesert 18 Beechmont 35 Boreen Point 11
Cape Moreton 4 Coolangatta 66 Crows Nest 0.8 Darlington 20
Eumundi 29 Foxley 5 Harrisville 2 Hinze Dam 32 Kenilworth 4
Lake Cooroibah 28 Lindfield 8 Logan City 40 Lowood 3
Macleans Bridge 13 Maleny 27 Maroochydore 25 Maroon Dam 5
Miami 52 Morayfield 7 Mt Glorious 7 Mt Mee 8 Mt Nebo 6
Mt Tamborine 34 Nambour 12 Palmwoods 6 Point Lookout 32
Romani 11 Somerset Dam 3 Tarome 1
RAINFALL METROPOLITAN:
Archerfield 15 Ashgrove 8 Boondall 8 Brisbane AP 10
Capalaba 19 Cleveland 36 Greenbank 15 Kalinga 11 Lytton 12
Manly 22 Oxley 12 Redcliffe 15 Strathpine 3 Sunnybank 19
Toombul 8
Certainly was some heavy falls though, and I'm sure that there were
increasingly lumpier falls mixed in between the rain obs.
Today there should be some more heavyish falls, leaning more towards
later on today though I think. As well as more thunder and lightning.
The BoM is still saying rain periods for tomorrow, but I thought that it
would start to ease off after tonight, but we'll see what happens, the
atmosphere begins to become less unstable after today according to
MRF/AVN/NGP - although AVN is pointing at some early morning rain
tomorrow morning.
Anthony from Brisbane
Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk wrote:
>
> 7am.....can't sleep :)
>
> Thismornings weather summary has a few lumpy falls around the Gold Coast
> area mainly, this is only to 3am this morning too, the 9am totals will be
> bigger still these areas:
>
> In the 6 hours to 3am Saturday generally light to moderate falls were
> reported from coastal areas and nearby ranges, and particularly around the
> southeast corner of Queensland where there were isolated heavy falls. The
> highest total reported was 122mm at Southport, some of the lesser totals
> included Springbrook 61mm, Lady Elliot Island 57mm, Coolangatta 43mm,
> Carbrook 52mm, Binna Burra 46mm, Marsden 34mm, Waterford 33mm and Numibah
> 31mm.
>
> One thing that concerns me is that i just called a BOM forecaster, and when
> i asked about the heavy rain in Southern Brisbane suburbs early thismorning
> he paused, and didn't quite know what i was talking about.. he loaded up
> something (a radar loop i figure) and sounded quite surprised at what he
> saw.. but he couldn't tell me any rainfall amounts that were coming in from
> around the place so far (When normally they can rattle off a bunch of
> figures from AWS's i take it).. I dont think there should have been a
> warning out, but it would be nice if he knew what was going on around him..
> makes me wonder what he is doing? I call the BOM forecasters quite often to
> get their oppinions/thoughts on matters, and normally the ppl i get are
> sharp, on the ball and know exactly what i'm talking about straight off and
> can dazzle me with figures.. then sometimes i get what i got this morning
> (one time the person i got could hardly speak english).. I think it spoils
> it for the Forecasters/ppl that are very very good at BOM.. I
> 'm probably dribbling, just some thoughts..
>
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Michael Bath has just called me ten minutes ago about 10:40am and as we
were on the phone, there was what seemed to be a bad line. No it was bloody
rain and thunder. They had 90mm of rain overnight if I recall which matches
Alstonville's rainfall. It is very heavy rainfall readings just in that area.
He will be back here tomorrow night.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:20:24 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,
And 10 minutes ago on IRC (in #Weather)....
I wonder if our Ballina friends are gonna report
anything?
there's a little pink in Ballina, but that's broad
but there's a bit of lightning near Ballina
Great to see some heavy falls down there! Currently we have
light-moderate rain, but it's generally calm (except for the occassional
light breeze) If I can recall correctly, NGP/MRF are tipping another
upper level trough later next week, so we may see some more falls then.
To date, I have had 549mm of rain during Jan/Feb/Mar(average should be
336mm combined), and 48mm so far in April
Anthony Cornelius
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Michael Bath has just called me ten minutes ago about 10:40am and as we
> were on the phone, there was what seemed to be a bad line. No it was bloody
> rain and thunder. They had 90mm of rain overnight if I recall which matches
> Alstonville's rainfall. It is very heavy rainfall readings just in that area.
>
> He will be back here tomorrow night.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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> Jimmy Deguara
> Vice President ASWA
> from Schofields, Sydney
> e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
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Hey Nick..
Yeah it's a great site, we'll definately miss it when/if they take it down.
I especially love the Temperature and MSLP loops they have, and more so the
Predicted Model rainfall from LAPS (not sure if there's anywhere else on
the web to get the LAPS stuff), it even goes a far enough south for Sydney
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:05:58 -0500
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>What kind of distances are we talking about here.... Presumably thousands of miles /
>km per chase???
If you were based in Sydney, for example,
there have been plenty of January severe
storms of all sorts right over the
metropolitan area. The Hunter Valley is a
short drive to the north (say 90 minutes to
the lower Hunter region) and is one of the
most active regions in the state...
Another three hours north-westish from
there and you hit the provincial city of
Tamworth (around 400km from Sydney) and the
Northwest slopes and plains district which
is another very active area.
An 'ideal' situation would allow you to
follow an active trough system from
Victoria in the south all the way to
southern Queensland in the north over a few
days - a few such systems this year gave
severe storm outbreaks right the way along.
This would be a big drive and more ideal
for Vic chasers since they're in the south
to begin with.
So you could quite easily clock up several
thousand kms on a chase or a lot less, all
depending on what mother nature will decide
to dish up when you're here.
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:59:01 +1000
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Hi Les
You are indeed correct in capitalising DIFFERENT, the geography is
completely different for a start. If storm activity is on a downer you can
go on world heritage rainforest walk on the eastern slopes of the Great
Divide, you can go whitewater rafting near Grafton / Coffs Harbour, or
surfing just about anywhere on the coast, you can visit Victoria's Great
Ocean Road, or veg out on a commune at Nimbin.
Unfortunately it is this geography that makes chasing difficult. Last year
Clyve Herbert, Jimmy Deguara, Paul Yole and myself watched as a storm went
severe with hail and torrential rain moved east onto the eastern escarpment
into no mans land, we simply could not chase it any further eastwards.
I have to concede one of the previous replies point that the Victorian Road
network is better, west of the Hume Hwy that is. However, I would imagine
trying to chase around Omeo or Dargo in the high country would be
frustrating.
>The storms don't have to be necessarily tornadic - just severe pulse type
or
>supercell or even just "severe" will do. Australia seems to be where its at
as far as
>this kind of severe weather is concerned and its DIFFERENT from the Great
Plains
>which everyone seems to think is the only place in the world you get this
kind of
>stuff. Hence the reason for wanting to go to Australia.
>
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Again as often happens the Illawarra seem to be dividing point between
convecting Cu over the ocean to the NE ( off Sydney/ Hunter ) and just plain
ordinary showers to the SE ( over ocean ).
To the NE I can see three small little towers, nothing to get excited about
but showing instability none the less, to the SE the Cu is flat and drizzly
looking. Something may spring up over the escarpment with a little heating
later, but just shower activity I suspect.
Michael Thompson
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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> In the 6 hours to 3am Saturday generally light to moderate falls were
> reported from coastal areas and nearby ranges, and particularly around the
> southeast corner of Queensland where there were isolated heavy falls. The
> highest total reported was 122mm at Southport, some of the lesser totals
> included Springbrook 61mm, Lady Elliot Island 57mm, Coolangatta 43mm,
> Carbrook 52mm, Binna Burra 46mm, Marsden 34mm, Waterford 33mm and Numibah
> 31mm.
There's no mention of Southport in the daily rainfall bulletin. I'm
guessing that the site referred to as 'Southport' here is the Gold
Coast Seaway, which didn't report in the 0900 weather bulletin.
Blair Trewin
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Hi all,
Canberra is receiving quite a few brief, sharp showers
today (Saturday 12.20 EST). This is considerably more
than the BoM forecast of early drizzle first envisaged.
We often have cloudy/overcast days but little or no
precipitation in situations of ESE winds on the coast and a high
nearby.
Whilst there is not a lot of vertical development today, it
is nice to get a bit in the way of shower activity.
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PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
ISSUED AT 09:15AM SATURDAY 10/04/1999
PEOPLE IN THE CENTRAL WEST DISTRICT INCLUDING THE CITY OF GERALDTON
ARE ADVISED THAT THERE IS A RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS DURING
TODAY.
STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY STRONG WINDS THAT COULD RESULT
IN DAMAGE TO PROPERTY. HEAVY RAIN WITH FLASH FLOODING IS POSSIBLE.
GERALDTON RADAR SHOWS A SEVERE STORM 120 KILOMETRES TO THE NORTHWEST
OF GERALDTON.
PEOPLE ARE ADVISED TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND, IF
STORMS APPROACH SECURE LOOSE ITEMS, MOVE VEHICLES UNDER COVER, THEN
STAY INDOORS UNTIL THE STORMS HAVE PASSED. DRIVING CONDITIONS WILL
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Yeah, that's always the way Anthony.. I was really surprised at those
rainfall figures for this morning, my first thought was maybe Brisbane
Radar had some kind of problem last night and was overestimating? But i
spoke to 2 different people from the Southern Suburbs and they said it was
TEAMING down most of the night.
Also another thing is there were reports of 40knot winds on the Gold Coast
last night, and James reported fairly strong winds too.. so i guess in
situations like that you cant really get accurate rainfall readings.
I'm wondering, does anyone have any model data saved for the 1st of March
this year? I'm just looking at the moisture content in the atmosphere and
comparing it to last night.. the 0z soundings for March 1st were blown out
most likely, as the soudings went up as the Area of rain was passing
over/close by the station.. The 12z soundings were even better than the 0z,
but i cant recall if there was anything around that night, and have no
radar images.
I guess the question i'm posing is, If there is yellow on the radar (with a
Precipitable Water of say 1.5 inches).. and in another situation there is
relatively the same amount of yellow (but with a Precipitable water of 2.5
inches), would you expect the rainfall in the first case to be much less? I
think we're getting into the technical side of how the radar works? I will
see if i can put a couple of radar shots from last night on some webspace
and post a URL to it..
Hi all,
Well - I certainly went to bed far too early last night (3:15am), this was
when things began to get interesting just after! And of course, when I woke
up at 8:40am, everything began to quieten down again, oh well!
We had 16.9mm overnight, at times we also had some gusty winds (only up to
20kn) and I observed some sheet lightning out to sea (no CG's or crawlers
though) and heard some thunder periodically.
The 9am rainfall figures surprised me somewhat, as I thought they'd be
higher (particually Logan and Coolongatta's)
RAINFALL SOUTHEAST COAST: [15]
Amberley 0.2 Beaudesert 18 Beechmont 35 Boreen Point 11
Cape Moreton 4 Coolangatta 66 Crows Nest 0.8 Darlington 20
Eumundi 29 Foxley 5 Harrisville 2 Hinze Dam 32 Kenilworth 4
Lake Cooroibah 28 Lindfield 8 Logan City 40 Lowood 3
Macleans Bridge 13 Maleny 27 Maroochydore 25 Maroon Dam 5
Miami 52 Morayfield 7 Mt Glorious 7 Mt Mee 8 Mt Nebo 6
Mt Tamborine 34 Nambour 12 Palmwoods 6 Point Lookout 32
Romani 11 Somerset Dam 3 Tarome 1
RAINFALL METROPOLITAN:
Archerfield 15 Ashgrove 8 Boondall 8 Brisbane AP 10
Capalaba 19 Cleveland 36 Greenbank 15 Kalinga 11 Lytton 12
Manly 22 Oxley 12 Redcliffe 15 Strathpine 3 Sunnybank 19
Toombul 8
Certainly was some heavy falls though, and I'm sure that there
wereincreasingly lumpier falls mixed in between the rain obs.
Today there should be some more heavyish falls, leaning more towards
later on today though I think. As well as more thunder and lightning.
The BoM is still saying rain periods for tomorrow, but I thought that it
would start to ease off after tonight, but we'll see what happens, the
atmosphere begins to become less unstable after today according to
MRF/AVN/NGP - although AVN is pointing at some early morning rain tomorrow
morning.
Anthony from Brisbane
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Storm Chasers update
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:55:56 +1000
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The last report for the summer in Melbourne is finally up there - Clyve
Herbert's Geelong - Corio chase - and *that* photo!!!
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/2a_3_99.htm
Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:32:41 +1000
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Hi all,
John from Mt. Crosby here. As usual being located 26klm due west of the
city and inconveniently positioned behind the Southern tip of the D'Aguilar
range, my total for the last 24 hours to 3:00pm is just 7mm and no, my rain
guage doesn't leak. Goes to show how 'caostal' these showers really are.
I did observe reflections of distant lightning at around 11:30pm last
night.
Guess it makes up for our Jan storm where we got 45mm and the city missed
out altogether.
John W,
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Hi everyone,
Just a couple of things to get the ball rolling (so to speak). I have just
joined up with this list and would like to say, I hope I will get many
hours of enjoyment and needless to say heaps of information on the weather
and my passion T/Storms. I live in Paralowie, a small suburb of Adelaide in
South Australia. Even though we really only get about 15 storms (tops) a
year I am really interested in them and most other kinds of weather aswell.
I hear there is a group calling themselves the ASWA (Australian Severe
Weather Association) This sounds really interesting, and I would like to
ask if anyone has some information on how I can join this group.
If anyone is interested my Lightning Photographs are at
http://lightning.virtualave.net
I have only been photographing for about 3 years now but I think Im getting
the hang of it (smile)
I chat on the Ausnet server in #weather too if anyone wants to say hi..
Okay enough from me, see you l8tr
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:24:41 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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see attachment for the latest data...weeklysummaries
Summary of weather observations for Seven Hills--week ended Saturday 10th April, 1999
Observation Reading Date of extreme
Average maximum 22.2
Average minimum 13.8
Average terrestrial minimum 10.8
Highest maximum 23.6 8
Lowest maximum 19.2 5
Highest minimum 16.8 5
Lowest minimum 10.5 8
Highest terrestrial minimum 15.0 5
Lowest terrestrial minimum 7.0 8
Total rainfall 52.0
Rain days 5
Highest daily rainfall 23.8 5
Total evaporation 13.3
Total wind run 945.6
Highest wind run 243.0 7
Lowest barometer 1008.0 6
Highest barometer 1031.0 9
Thunder 0
Lightning 0
Hail 0
Frost 0
Fog 4
Byram Keetch drought index as at 9/4/1999 36.9
Last Updated on 10/04/99
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Hi Jimmy here
Hi Andrew and welcome to the list. Basically the list is ASWA in a way,
Most of the members that will make up ASWA will be on this list with some
more off it.
I will e-mail you separately on information about ASWA so others need not
worry giving a detailed description.
Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
At 16:58 10/04/99 +0900, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>Just a couple of things to get the ball rolling (so to speak). I have just
>joined up with this list and would like to say, I hope I will get many
>hours of enjoyment and needless to say heaps of information on the weather
>and my passion T/Storms. I live in Paralowie, a small suburb of Adelaide in
>South Australia. Even though we really only get about 15 storms (tops) a
>year I am really interested in them and most other kinds of weather aswell.
>I hear there is a group calling themselves the ASWA (Australian Severe
>Weather Association) This sounds really interesting, and I would like to
>ask if anyone has some information on how I can join this group.
>
>If anyone is interested my Lightning Photographs are at
>http://lightning.virtualave.net
>
>I have only been photographing for about 3 years now but I think Im getting
>the hang of it (smile)
>
>I chat on the Ausnet server in #weather too if anyone wants to say hi..
>
>Okay enough from me, see you l8tr
>
>Andrew Wall aka Astroman
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:53:05 +1000
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Great story and pics, no question about the rotation, you can see it.
Thanks
Michael
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>Herbert's Geelong - Corio chase - and *that* photo!!!
>
>http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/2a_3_99.htm
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>Jane
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Rain,rain &more rain
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:38:35 +1000
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Howdy All,
Another wet day here in Ballina......seems to be storms coming in with the
E-S/E winds today...they seem to last 5 mins....just a few flashes of
lightning & a couple of claps of thunder.....it's a bloody pain as I didn't
get to sleep till 5.30am (had to work last night) & some of the thunderclaps
were quite loud.BTW, My nephew just told me a house at North Creek (1KM Nth
Ballina) got struck by lightning this arvo......hit a tree 1st, bounced over
to a scanner antenna, down the co-ax into the scanner........blew it up,
took out the power point & started a small fire.(Moral:- Disconnect your
antenna's!!!!) The surge took out some other homes in the area.....
See Ya's
John
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:57:18 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hey all!!
Ok, I just took the dog for a walk (convientently around the time
lightning began to become visible from here) Some very bright strikes,
the storm is an easy 30-40km away from me (ESE)- and it was illuminating
the ground!!! I can also hear the very faint and distant ocassional
rumble of thunder. I can only see sheet lightning, but from the sheet
lightning, I can also tell that a couple of them are CG's. I can also
see the anvil from here too (well, I can make it out in the dark) It's
relatively infrequent, about once every 5-10 seconds, but it varies a
lot.
Anthony from Brisbane
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Had a large tower go up to the SE of the Illawarra about 4.30pm, worked out
quickly why the Illawarra was spared, the towers were being sheared back to
the SE at the 2000-3000m level. Looking north towards Sydney and this was
not happening up that way.
Michael
>Another wet day here in Ballina......seems to be storms coming in with the
>E-S/E winds today...they seem to last 5 mins....just a few flashes of
>lightning & a couple of claps of thunder.....it's a bloody pain as I didn't
>get to sleep till 5.30am (had to work last night) & some of the
thunderclaps
>were quite loud.BTW, My nephew just told me a house at North Creek (1KM Nth
>Ballina) got struck by lightning this arvo......hit a tree 1st, bounced
over
>to a scanner antenna, down the co-ax into the scanner........blew it up,
>took out the power point & started a small fire.(Moral:- Disconnect your
>antenna's!!!!) The surge took out some other homes in the area.....
>See Ya's
>John
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:46:52 -0400
From: David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Spam
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Well, we finaly got spammed. It's easy enough to do. There are lists of
mailing lists all over the net, if you find one that is open and
unmoderated, you just subscribe and send your spam.
I have unsubscribed the offender, and if he subs again I will block him.
A suggestion: Let the matter drop. If we start a long thread about
spammers he will have partialy achieved his goals.
-David Hart-
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