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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Monday, 12 April 1999

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001 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Information
003 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
004 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Strange Weather.
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Information - Rain & Flood.
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Strange Weather - linked to sunspots?
007 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Information
008 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
009 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au                        NSW North Coast update
010 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               gold coast rainfall total
011 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Towers going up near Canberra
012 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Information
013 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Information
014 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
015 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Information
016 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Seabreeze Fronts
017 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Towers going up near Canberra
018 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Information
019 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Information
020 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Legendary Wilkie :)
021 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Towers going up near Canberra
022 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
023 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]       Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
024 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
025 "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]                 Another Cyclone looks like to form! :)
026 "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]                 Another Cyclone looks like to form! :)
027 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Photos if you are bored
028 "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]         gold coast rainfall total
029 "John Roenfeldt" [wa_tornado at hotmail.com]      Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
031 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Hi all from S.Australia
032 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Strange Weather - linked to sunspots?
033 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]             Bring on the cold weather...
034 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      "Cold air Tornado's"
035 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Bring on the cold weather...
036 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Towers going up near Canberra
037 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
038 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Bring on the cold weather...
039 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                Information
040 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]             And more pics up.....
041 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]             And more pics up.....

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:04:02 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

Well these are my totals of rain from the latest thundery shower/rain
event - does anyone else have any totals?  I'd be curious to see what
they are:

Thursday 9am - Friday 9am: 2.6mm
Friday 9am - Saturday 9am: 16.9mm
Saturday 9am - Sunday 9am: 14.7mm
Sunday 9am  -  Monday 9am: 9.4mm 

Total: 43.6mm

I'm particularly interested in rainfall totals from the Gold Coast and
also the southern suburbs of Brisbane - but if anyone else has rainfall
totals, please do tell!

Also, as many Brisbanites would have found - the mercury dipped rather
low last night!  I recorded a min of 16.2C, when I woke up it was 16.4C,
certainly not my favourite temperature to get up on a Monday morning on!
Going through the 24hr METAR reports from NOAA, the min was 16C, however
does anyone know of a full METAR report site that includes 3hr
rainfall/6hr rainfall/highest temp so far/ lowest temp so far etc ? 
Because the METAR's from NOAA don't include this information (which can
be handy)

Anthony from Brisbane
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:08:02 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

Was this the tornado that the BoM said "a layer of air was trapped
underneath, and was under pressure, so when it did escape, it caused the
damage" ?  I remember hearing about a possible tornado in Newcastle
(thanks to James' wonderful taping of past news reports!) and that was
roughly, the explanation given by the BoM.

Anthony from Brisbane
 
> Mech101 wrote:
> 
 >  Hi, I'm new to the mailing list. My name is Ryan Leeman and I'm
 > located in NSW Newcastle. I have a question regarding what was
 > reported by the media as a "Mini-Tornado"several years back. The
 > tornado was said to have touched down in wallsend
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
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Hi All,

	The big chase sounds great. I can't wait.
	
	Another fine sunny day. No cloud at all.

	At 09.00 14C, 80%, 1028, E 0-5 Knots

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Strange Weather.
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Hi All,

	The United States seems to be getting plenty of strange weather patterns.
Record cold snaps/snowfalls in the Winter. Now it look like they are in for
a rougher stormier Spring than the average with large storm cells already.

 Greenhouse??????? I wonder!!!!!

 Terry.

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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:53:53 +1000
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Howdy all. Another wet weekend. (PS I know my date stamp is the 14.4.99 -
IT are working on it.)

Saturdays rainfal was 42mm and Sundays 7.8mm, now bringing total fro April
to 340mm!! Yearly total is now 780mm!! Still far from a April record which
stands at 741mm (roughly) but I suspect that we will get more yet.

Brings me to an interetsing situation - if we get a serious fall of rain
concentrated for say 3 days we will have a mjor flood situation on our
hands here in the Manning. The river has been running fresh now for some 6
weeks (almost a record) and levels are quite high. All the Locals
(oldtimers) are warning for floods and moving there hay & other farm stuff
to higher ground. They say now its rather sooner then later.......

PS saturday was a brilliant weather day! We had 5 small CB cells from the
NE with cg lightning and thunder with heavy localised falls! Man it was
good to see ligthning again!

Paul - Mitchrells Island (Currently in Port Macquarie)


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Terry. I was reading on the weekend that the weather can be also be linked
to other weather phenomena (such as meteor activity etc) I don't know how
true this is BUT I was reading the emails from Blair regarding the decent
weather events of the start of every 10 years or so and was wondering
whether this may be linked to Sunspot activity. I have heard theories
before that sunspot activity can have massive influences in weather
patterns, and with the next lot of sunspot activity due next year (remember
My predictions that 2000 will be a severe storm year for us?) maybe we just
might see some interesting weather yet.

Any opinions?


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Why is it that everytime there is an extremely localised, rotating mass of
area that causes damage along a strip and does stuff like unroof houses and
rearranges cows, the bureau/media doeverything in their power to avoid
using the word "tornado". Is there an actual, official meaning to the word
tornado that requires a certain number of mobile homes to be destroyed
before the magical label is applied, or is it just the "tornadoes don't
happen in Australia" syndrome?

Monday morning grumpy Chris

At 07:08 12/04/99 , you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Was this the tornado that the BoM said "a layer of air was trapped
>underneath, and was under pressure, so when it did escape, it caused the
>damage" ?  I remember hearing about a possible tornado in Newcastle
>(thanks to James' wonderful taping of past news reports!) and that was
>roughly, the explanation given by the BoM.
>
>Anthony from Brisbane
> 
>> Mech101 wrote:
>> 
> >  Hi, I'm new to the mailing list. My name is Ryan Leeman and I'm
> > located in NSW Newcastle. I have a question regarding what was
> > reported by the media as a "Mini-Tornado"several years back. The
> > tornado was said to have touched down in wallsend
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:14:04 +1000
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Hi Anthony,

>From Mt. Crosby, inconveniently located behind the southern tip of... 
etc...

Thursday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 0.0mm
Friday 12:00m - 12:00pm: 0.0mm
Saturday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 11.0mm
Sunday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 4.0mm
Monday 12:00am - 8:00am: 0.0mm

Didn't check the min this morning, yesterday was 15.0C.
17.5C at midnight last night.

Funnily enough, our mins typically seem to be closer to Brisbane than 
Ipswich/Amberley which is what you might expect from the location being 
in-land 13 km directly due North of Ipswich.  In fact last winter I recall 
one min which was 6 deg warmer than Amberley and 2 deg warmer than Brisbane 
airport.  I think it has something to do with being up on a ridge in well 
treed hill country rather than on an open flat.

Sorry for the non-standard recording times, just happens that midnight is 
easier for me.  I am probably 30ks due west of your location as the crow 
flies, so from 43.6mm to 15mm ... big drop!  But I seem to recall that the 
BoM didn't do much better at Brisbane airport on Sat & Sun, which is 
curious, given the location.

Regards,
John W.

-----Original Message-----
Hi all,

Well these are my totals of rain from the latest thundery shower/rain
event - does anyone else have any totals?  I'd be curious to see what
they are:

Thursday 9am - Friday 9am: 2.6mm
Friday 9am - Saturday 9am: 16.9mm
Saturday 9am - Sunday 9am: 14.7mm
Sunday 9am  -  Monday 9am: 9.4mm 

Total: 43.6mm

I'm particularly interested in rainfall totals from the Gold Coast and
also the southern suburbs of Brisbane - but if anyone else has rainfall
totals, please do tell!

Also, as many Brisbanites would have found - the mercury dipped rather
low last night!  I recorded a min of 16.2C, when I woke up it was 16.4C,
certainly not my favourite temperature to get up on a Monday morning on!
Going through the 24hr METAR reports from NOAA, the min was 16C, however
does anyone know of a full METAR report site that includes 3hr
rainfall/6hr rainfall/highest temp so far/ lowest temp so far etc ?
Because the METAR's from NOAA don't include this information (which can
be handy)

Anthony from Brisbane
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From: Michael_Bath at amp.com.au
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Hi All,

Got back from Wollongbar (my familys new address, but I'm in Sydney for
another 6 weeks) yesterday afternoon. Showery weather persisted for the
whole time I was there (Wed 7th to Sat 10th), but Friday evening and
Saturday certainly turned on the rain. Heavy showers on Friday morning gave
way to a mostly fine day, however very large cumulus developed in the SE
airstream later in the day. Very heavy showers on and off all night gave us
90mm to 9am Sat (lucky I set the gauge up quickly) but then eased.
Apparently Ballina about 15km to the ESE had thunder from about 2am on
Saturday, but the first I observed lightning and thunder at Wollongbar was
late morning Sat 10th. Several more thundery torrential showers occurred
during the day but set in from about 6pm. Lighnting was observed all
evening, and on my train trip leaving Lismore at 11.30pm was also observed
all the way down to about Macksville at 3-ish. My wife Alison measured 71mm
for the 24 hours to 9am Sunday. Earlier when we went to the station at
Lismore I noticed the river was up and estimated about a 5-6m rise - it was
nice to see the Bom warning of a minor flood warning for about 6m,
confirming my obs.

Ballina has had almost 1500mm (annual average is 1780mm) of rain this year
now, over 500mm in Feb and nearly 400mm in Mar and now about 250mm for
April. There is a daily reporting station at Alstonville about 5km east of
our new place but I do not have the figures for there at the moment.

regards,
Michael Bath


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hey all,
well, my gauge got a work out this weekend. dont' have daily records, just
a weekend total from thursday night to monday morning. 123mm fell!! and it
tasted good too:)
stevo

http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/weather.html

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Hi all,

At 10.30am Monday (12/4) I notice some nice towers going 
up on the Brindabellas to the W and SW of Canberra.

This follows from a morning with a good scattering
of castellanus and ac. We also had fairly widespread valley 
fog which burnt off by about 9.00am.

Don't know what the upper atmosphere is like but there
does appear to be some good potential for early this 
afternoon (notwithstanding the weak April sun).

Observed a very nice pulse cell between about 3-5pm
yesterday afternoon in non-roaded areas to the ESE of
Canberra - so the potential is still there.

Good to hear of the coastal action over the last few days.

Patrick


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I vaguely recall a very severe storm a few year back but I suppose like the
rest of the Hunter, there have been quite a few. I recall something coming and
through a caravan into the lake or something. Can you recall the date or at
least year and time of year??

There is also another storm of interest not far from that area. In late
November or early December 1997, Shingle Splitters Point which is on the
southern side of Lake Macquarie  I think near Bonnel's Bay. The parth of
damage
was 500m long and in the newspaper article it is described to have lasted 30
seconds, missed houses by 20 metres and trees in the article have had large
branches snapped and large trees felled. I had totally forgotten about it
until
this e-mail.

So I have included a photo on our site at

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/ph
otos/1997/1200zz01.jpg

Do you think it was a tornado. I had tried to ask Ken Batt from the Bureau if
he knew about this one but he couldn't recall. I am interested in the
comments.

Jimmy Deguara

At 20:27 13/03/99 +0800, you wrote: 
>
> Hi, I'm new to the mailing list.
> �
> My name is Ryan Leeman and I'm located in NSW Newcastle.
> �
> I have a question regarding what was reported by the media as a
> "Mini-Tornado"�
> several years back. The tornado was said to have touched down in wallsend
but
> information other than that is sketchy. Does anyone know anything about this
> event or even point me in the right direction for gathering info about this
> one.
> �
> Thankyou�
> �
> ���� 



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I am a little disappointed with my spelling in this message. I had
concentrated
on scanning and writing the second part and then sent it as is.

Jimmy Deguara

>
> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:26:45 +1000 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
> From: Jimmy Deguara 
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Information 
>
> I vaguely recall a very severe storm a few year back but I suppose like the
> rest of the Hunter, there have been quite a few. I recall something coming
> and through a caravan into the lake or something. Can you recall the date or
> at least year and time of year??
>
> There is also another storm of interest not far from that area. In late
> November or early December 1997, Shingle Splitters Point which is on the
> southern side of Lake Macquarie� I think near Bonnel's Bay. The parth of
> damage was 500m long and in the newspaper article it is described to have
> lasted 30 seconds, missed houses by 20 metres and trees in the article have
> had large branches snapped and large trees felled. I had totally forgotten
> about it until this e-mail.
>
> So I have included a photo on our site at
>
>
> 
> 1200zz01.jpg>http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/
> photos/1997/1200zz01.jpg
>
> Do you think it was a tornado. I had tried to ask Ken Batt from the
Bureau if
> he knew about this one but he couldn't recall. I am interested in the
> comments.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 20:27 13/03/99 +0800, you wrote: 
>>
>> Hi, I'm new to the mailing list.
>> �
>> My name is Ryan Leeman and I'm located in NSW Newcastle.
>> �
>> I have a question regarding what was reported by the media as a
>> "Mini-Tornado"�
>> several years back. The tornado was said to have touched down in wallsend
>> but information other than that is sketchy. Does anyone know anything about
>> this event or even point me in the right direction for gathering info about
>> this one.
>> �
>> Thankyou�
>> �
>> ���� 
>
>



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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane Totals + Brisbane Froze O'night
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

All up i recieved 37mm here over the weekend, and a further 17mm falling
this morning from a period of rain wich lasted almost 2 hours - this is not
uncommon for Redcliffe(this mornings rain).  Pretty sad really, considering
the last few systems like this i had totals 100mm+ and 250mm+..

I'm not surprised the rain didn't make it far inland, to me it never really
looked like it would - and the BOM forecasts reflected this with only
showers/showery for Toowoomba.. I think if the winds were just that little
more Easterly, and a tad stronger inland parts would have recieved much
more, like the system that caused the 1 in 100 year floods in Gympie not
too long ago (although it was a little different to this system).  I didn't
get very much at all here on saturday either, and not much better on Sunday
- we had southerly winds for most of the day here, and they were much the
same over most of Brisbane going by the obs during the day. Most of the
showers were staying off the coast, an any that did make it to the coast
were not making it very far inland.






      Hi Anthony,

      From Mt. Crosby, inconveniently located behind the southern tip of...
      etc...

      Thursday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 0.0mm
      Friday 12:00m - 12:00pm: 0.0mm
      Saturday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 11.0mm
      Sunday 12:00am - 12:00pm: 4.0mm
      Monday 12:00am - 8:00am: 0.0mm

      Didn't check the min this morning, yesterday was 15.0C.
      17.5C at midnight last night.

      Funnily enough, our mins typically seem to be closer to Brisbane than
      Ipswich/Amberley which is what you might expect from the location
being
      in-land 13 km directly due North of Ipswich. In fact last winter I
recall
      one min which was 6 deg warmer than Amberley and 2 deg warmer than
Brisbane
      airport. I think it has something to do with being up on a ridge in
well
      treed hill country rather than on an open flat.

      Sorry for the non-standard recording times, just happens that
midnight is
      easier for me. I am probably 30ks due west of your location as the
crow
      flies, so from 43.6mm to 15mm ... big drop! But I seem to recall that
the
      BoM didn't do much better at Brisbane airport on Sat & Sun, which is
      curious, given the location.

      Regards,
      John W.

      -----Original Message-----
     
      Hi all,

      Well these are my totals of rain from the latest thundery shower/rain
      event - does anyone else have any totals? I'd be curious to see what
      they are:

      Thursday 9am - Friday 9am: 2.6mm
      Friday 9am - Saturday 9am: 16.9mm
      Saturday 9am - Sunday 9am: 14.7mm
      Sunday 9am - Monday 9am: 9.4mm 

      Total: 43.6mm

      I'm particularly interested in rainfall totals from the Gold Coast
and
      also the southern suburbs of Brisbane - but if anyone else has
rainfall
      totals, please do tell!

      Also, as many Brisbanites would have found - the mercury dipped
rather
      low last night! I recorded a min of 16.2C, when I woke up it was
16.4C,
      certainly not my favourite temperature to get up on a Monday morning
on!
      Going through the 24hr METAR reports from NOAA, the min was 16C,
however
      does anyone know of a full METAR report site that includes 3hr
      rainfall/6hr rainfall/highest temp so far/ lowest temp so far etc ?
      Because the METAR's from NOAA don't include this information (which
can
      be handy)

      Anthony from Brisbane


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Ryan:

Yes there was a tornadoe that touched down west of wallsend some 2 years
ago. It was widely reported but because of the little damage it caused was
not picked up in Media Hype. The One Jimmy was talking about happened
during a Xmas Carol concert I believe not last year but year before when a
savage storm ripped through the concert blowing the stage over amongst
other things. This was widely reported (by NBN) and there was extensive
damage in the surrounding areas.


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Heya Patrick

Just wondering, do you have any pictures of the sea breeze fronts you guys
get down there? or does anyone else for that matter?? just been reading up
on them the last few days, i think i may have seen one on my dads property
(approx. 70 k's inland) at one stage, from wich we got a fews spots of rain
(very large Tcu) and the NE/E wind was quite fresh and gusty as the Line of
Tcu neared. I find them very interesting..







      Hi all,

      At 10.30am Monday (12/4) I notice some nice towers going
      up on the Brindabellas to the W and SW of Canberra.

      This follows from a morning with a good scattering
      of castellanus and ac. We also had fairly widespread valley
      fog which burnt off by about 9.00am.

      Don't know what the upper atmosphere is like but there
      does appear to be some good potential for early this
      afternoon (notwithstanding the weak April sun).

      Observed a very nice pulse cell between about 3-5pm
      yesterday afternoon in non-roaded areas to the ESE of
      Canberra - so the potential is still there.

      Good to hear of the coastal action over the last few days.

      Patrick


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2:50pm Monday and those towers have turned into storms.
A fiar distance S of where I am, but enough to darken
the sky and give that excellen forboding look.

Patrick - I've just washed the car, mowed the lawn and 
hung some washing out. I've done my bit - if it doesn't
rain then it's not from lack of trying

- Chris

BTW - hope you brisbane-ites don't have to freeze through
another arctic night. 

At 10:46 12/04/99 , you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>At 10.30am Monday (12/4) I notice some nice towers going 
>up on the Brindabellas to the W and SW of Canberra.
>
>This follows from a morning with a good scattering
>of castellanus and ac. We also had fairly widespread valley 
>fog which burnt off by about 9.00am.
>
>Don't know what the upper atmosphere is like but there
>does appear to be some good potential for early this 
>afternoon (notwithstanding the weak April sun).
>
>Observed a very nice pulse cell between about 3-5pm
>yesterday afternoon in non-roaded areas to the ESE of
>Canberra - so the potential is still there.
>
>Good to hear of the coastal action over the last few days.
>
>Patrick

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Hey Jimmy..

Don't worry.. it takes me 5 minutes to get through the spell checker on
some of my emails (reading "Streat Machine" magazines in English lessons is
not recomended).. i have to use this web based email now, with no spell
checker so no doubt they're a mess..

BTW - great pic - both those URL's are the same though :)


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Paul, this one must have occurred before December 11 th as this was when
the Newspaper article was published. BTW, the article and photo are
property of Lakes Mail Morisset. So I think it is another storm from the
one you are thinking of. If you can find or recall more information about
it, please say so.

There was another lot of severe storms that occurred late in December that
year which is what you may be talking about. In Western Sydney on that
particular storm day, we reached 43C or something. The photo of the back
end of this storm system is

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/ind
ex10.htm    

towards the bottom, there is a few on that day 1221   21 December beginning
with a bushfire and cumulonimbus to the south

More directly if you can't spare the time

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/122
1jd08.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/122
1jd09.jpg

I hope my details are correct for the day but I am certain they are. This
gave pretty good rain in the Lake Macquarie area as we were suffering from
a pretty hot dry summer.

Note also that that day had your typical pulse storms.

Jimmy Deguara

At 00:09 15/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Ryan:
>
>Yes there was a tornadoe that touched down west of wallsend some 2 years
>ago. It was widely reported but because of the little damage it caused was
>not picked up in Media Hype. The One Jimmy was talking about happened
>during a Xmas Carol concert I believe not last year but year before when a
>savage storm ripped through the concert blowing the stage over amongst
>other things. This was widely reported (by NBN) and there was extensive
>damage in the surrounding areas.
>
>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Legendary Wilkie :)
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Hey Kevin..

Not sure, but i know every weather report should have someone like him.
90% of the time, when Ray says there wont be anything major (as in storms)
around, there isn't.. and when he says there could be some big ones
around.. you know we're in for a good day.

He also explains everything so well - really putting things into
perspective, and sometimes if BOM only has the forecasts reading "chance of
a storm" and he thinks there will be more than that around, he will change
it to "storm".. and likewise if he dosn't think there'll be much around he
might change the wording a little..

Some of the other weather reporters up here are real twits (especially
channel 9).. although over the past few months Channel 9 and 7 have made
huge improvements to their weather reports, they now have a sat pic
animation that looks like half hour shots (for the past 24 hours) on both
channels i think, and animations for the MSLP charts.. channel 9 has even
got the 3D thing going! now all they need is someone who knows what they're
are talking about doing the talking..





Hey Bodes!!!

      Dya reckon he's related to Alan Wilkie (a meteorologist also, I
      think!)...

      Kevin from Wycheproof.


      >From: Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk
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      >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
      >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane wx
      >Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:51:59 +0100
      >
      >Hey..
      >
      >Yeah i remember that quite clearly. Ray Wilkie - a local weather
person on
      >the channel Ten news up here (very very good, i've basically grown
up with
      >the guy) said he had never seen a cold pool of air go that far
north, and
      >then sit there in almost the same spot for days on end in his life..
he's
      >actually a Meteorologist too, not just a 'news presenter' like the
other
      >channels have.
      >
      >Anyone know of/have any rainfall totals for that area? I think there
were
      >some records broken from memory..
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >If i remember correctly, we had allot of upper level systems form
over
      > > Western QLD/Central Australia that produced some good rain (it
was
      >the
      > > wetest winter for us for many years).. hopefully this year will
be
      >the
      > > same.
      >
      > And who could forget the torrential downpoors in the Townsville
area
      > last year in the dry season! They also had hail in some areas - it
      >was
      > certainly rare for such an intense and deep upper level trough to
go
      >so
      > north.
      >
      > Anthony
      >
      >
 

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We have rain!

Not much, and no action, but at least it's wet stuff!
My cunning plan worked.

At 14:55 12/04/99 , I wrote:
>2:50pm Monday and those towers have turned into storms.
>A fiar distance S of where I am, but enough to darken
>the sky and give that excellen forboding look.
>
>Patrick - I've just washed the car, mowed the lawn and 
>hung some washing out. I've done my bit - if it doesn't
>rain then it's not from lack of trying
>
>- Chris
>
>BTW - hope you brisbane-ites don't have to freeze through
>another arctic night. 
>
>At 10:46 12/04/99 , you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>At 10.30am Monday (12/4) I notice some nice towers going 
>>up on the Brindabellas to the W and SW of Canberra.
>>
>>This follows from a morning with a good scattering
>>of castellanus and ac. We also had fairly widespread valley 
>>fog which burnt off by about 9.00am.
>>
>>Don't know what the upper atmosphere is like but there
>>does appear to be some good potential for early this 
>>afternoon (notwithstanding the weak April sun).
>>
>>Observed a very nice pulse cell between about 3-5pm
>>yesterday afternoon in non-roaded areas to the ESE of
>>Canberra - so the potential is still there.
>>
>>Good to hear of the coastal action over the last few days.
>>
>>Patrick
>
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Ok. Please respond if you would like to go. Heres airfare amounts divided
into weekly / fortnightly savings amounts. Tickets only have to be
purchased 14 days in advance and if we get more then 20 going we get a
groupd discount (some $200 or so) of the prices.

Sydney / Brisbane / Melbourne - Los Angeles - Dallas, Texas: $ 2278 full
economy (this means that if there are any specials on we will be able to
get them at much cheaper rates).

Min stay 7 nights
Max stay 2 Months.

To go you will need to save at least $60 per week. This will leave approx
$3600 less airfares. The more the better as people can share accom.
Hopefully, we may be able to hook up with some American chasers and save.
The sooner we have numbers and expressions of interest the better. I have
booked holidays..............

lets do it. You have over 12 months to organise yourself, and a Trip to
Tornadoe alley would well be worth it!


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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:25:58 +1000
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Hi Everyone,

I have just looked up some return economy fares to Dallas from Sydney and it
appears that JAL has the best deal with a price of $1760. This fare has a
maximum stay of more than one month and is available for the period when we
are planning to go. So come on everybody start saving those pennies.

Matthew Piper

----- Original Message -----
>
> Ok. Please respond if you would like to go. Heres airfare amounts divided
> into weekly / fortnightly savings amounts. Tickets only have to be
> purchased 14 days in advance and if we get more then 20 going we get a
> groupd discount (some $200 or so) of the prices.
>
> Sydney / Brisbane / Melbourne - Los Angeles - Dallas, Texas: $ 2278 full
> economy (this means that if there are any specials on we will be able to
> get them at much cheaper rates).
>
> Min stay 7 nights
> Max stay 2 Months.
>
> To go you will need to save at least $60 per week. This will leave approx
> $3600 less airfares. The more the better as people can share accom.
> Hopefully, we may be able to hook up with some American chasers and save.
> The sooner we have numbers and expressions of interest the better. I have
> booked holidays..............
>
> lets do it. You have over 12 months to organise yourself, and a Trip to
> Tornadoe alley would well be worth it!
>
>
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Personally, I don't like JAL from me experience in the past. But I am not
going so I don't count in this. I got food severe poisoning on the way back
home from the Malta trip a few years ago. I think however travelling
economy is important even if you pay more, you can sleep better, take more
photos out of the window as not as many seats are taken and you get served
food first so that you can tease others.

But I suppose it depends on your finances so those who want to go should
start saving. If I had to go, I would stay with a chaser friend of mine in
Texas who kindly offered me a place to stay whilst I am there.

ANother thing is that the larger the group, the more the savings but there
is a lot of organising from a ticket point of view. Question is, does
everyone have to go at the same time to have the saving? I think I recall
my mother organising the Malta trip and the saving was still valid since
all the tickets were booked. This will help those who could not make it on
a certain week or so on but still take advantage of the saving....by having
the ticket. Check it out anyway

Jimmy Deguara


At 16:25 12/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have just looked up some return economy fares to Dallas from Sydney and it
>appears that JAL has the best deal with a price of $1760. This fare has a
>maximum stay of more than one month and is available for the period when we
>are planning to go. So come on everybody start saving those pennies.
>
>Matthew Piper
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, 15 April 1999 0:55
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Ok. Please respond if you would like to go. Heres airfare amounts divided
>> into weekly / fortnightly savings amounts. Tickets only have to be
>> purchased 14 days in advance and if we get more then 20 going we get a
>> groupd discount (some $200 or so) of the prices.
>>
>> Sydney / Brisbane / Melbourne - Los Angeles - Dallas, Texas: $ 2278 full
>> economy (this means that if there are any specials on we will be able to
>> get them at much cheaper rates).
>>
>> Min stay 7 nights
>> Max stay 2 Months.
>>
>> To go you will need to save at least $60 per week. This will leave approx
>> $3600 less airfares. The more the better as people can share accom.
>> Hopefully, we may be able to hook up with some American chasers and save.
>> The sooner we have numbers and expressions of interest the better. I have
>> booked holidays..............
>>
>> lets do it. You have over 12 months to organise yourself, and a Trip to
>> Tornadoe alley would well be worth it!
>>
>>
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From: "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Another Cyclone looks like to form! :)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:07:17 +0800
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Hey all,
another low looks like deepening......
T R O P I C A L    C Y C L O N E    O U T L O O K
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
Issued at 1340 hours on   Monday , 12/04/99FOR THE AREA BETWEEN LONGITUDES 125 EAST -142 EAST
TROPICAL LOW in eastern Arafura Sea.
Location : near 9.5 S 136 E
: about 170 nautical miles (310 km) NNW of Nhulunbuy.
Central pressure : 1004 hPa
Recent movement  : slowly westwards.
REMARKS - The low is likely to be slow moving for the next two to three
days, and is expected to continue deepening.
NOTE: Development Potential is an estimate of the probability of  tropical cyclone development within each 24 hour period.
 LOW = 10%     MODERATE = 20% - 40%     HIGH = 50% or more.
END.

Also the Low is already generating strong winds :)
WARNINGPRIORITYWIND WARNINGFOR COASTAL WATERS CAPE DON TO ALYANGULABUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
Issued 1400 CST Monday 12/4/1999.NOTE: latitudes and
longitudes are given in decimal degrees.
SITUATION at 1400 CST:Tropical low 1004 hPa near 9.5S 136.0E, about 170 nautical milesnorth-northwest of Nhulunbuy, moving slowly west.  The low may deepen over the next 24 hours, causing strong winds along the north coastand in the northern Gulf of Carpentaria.
STRONG WIND WARNING....Southeast/northeast winds 15/25 knots between Cape Don and Alyangula,increasing to 20/30 knots overnight. Seas rising to 2.5m on a 2.0measterly swell.

NEXT WARNING: 1700 CSTWEATHER DARWIN

Jason Aka JuNgLeJiM
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From: "Jason" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Cyclone looks like to form! :)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:21:36 +0800
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hey again :)
missed the development potential on that last one :P

DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL
Next 24h : low
24-48 h : high (from Wednesday morning onwards)
48-72 h : high

-----Original Message-----
Hey all,
another low looks like deepening......
T R O P I C A L    C Y C L O N E    O U T L O O K
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
Issued at 1340 hours on   Monday , 12/04/99FOR THE AREA BETWEEN LONGITUDES 125 EAST - 142 EAST
TROPICAL LOW in eastern Arafura Sea.
Location : near 9.5 S 136 E
: about 170 nautical miles (310 km) NNW of Nhulunbuy.
Central pressure : 1004 hPa
Recent movement  : slowly westwards.
REMARKS - The low is likely to be slow moving for the next two to three
days, and is expected to continue deepening.
NOTE: Development Potential is an estimate of the probability of  tropical cyclone development within each 24 hour period.
 LOW = 10% MODERATE = 20% - 40%     HIGH = 50% or more.
END.

Also the Low is already generating strong winds :)
WARNINGPRIORITYWIND WARNINGFOR COASTAL WATERS CAPE DON TO ALYANGULABUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
Issued 1400 CST Monday 12/4/1999.NOTE: latitudes and
longitudes are given in decimal degrees.
SITUATION at 1400 CST:Tropical low 1004 hPa near 9.5S 136.0E, about 170 nautical milesnorth-northwest of Nhulunbuy, moving slowly west. The low may deepen over the next 24 hours, causing strong winds along the north coastand in the northern Gulf of Carpentaria.
STRONG WIND WARNING....Southeast/northeast winds 15/25 knots between Cape Don and Alyangula,increasing to 20/30 knots overnight. Seas rising to 2.5m on a 2.0measterly swell.

NEXT WARNING: 1700 CSTWEATHER DARWIN

Jason Aka JuNgLeJiM
http://www.kisser.net.au/kevans/weather/

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:29:37 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Photos if you are bored
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Hi there,

Jimmy here

I have found during discussions that some are often surprised when I tell
them of storms that have occurred which we have chased in the past. They
often say I haven't seen that one before?? This is especially for those
newer to the group. Therefore, I can suggest if people really want they can
look at the photographs from the following link


http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/index.h
tml

We have organised most of our photographs in order and by year. If you have
the time or are bored and really like photographs of clouds storms, etc,
you can browse through them. More are on the way that have not been linked
I suspect but will be in due course.

The only reason I suggested this is because I get the feeling people have
confused the two links to photography and wondered how if ever they can
view the photographs of storms we have taken etc. Well this is one of the
ways.

Jimmy Deguara
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From: "Joanne Walker" [jmwalker at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: gold coast rainfall total
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HI Steve and other listers,
Im not sure what part of the gold coast you are from, but I spent the 
weekend at Hope Island resort and on Saturday night from about 7.30 - 
10.30 we got a pretty decent storm/lightning show.  To be honest (and 
dont anyone think Im not a keen weatherwatcher or not - gotta be 
sociable when away with friends!:)) I didnt really go out of my way 
to watch it but the flashes I spotted out of the corner of y eye 
(while  at dinner then watcheing the lions play!) and the many deep 
spine tingling rumbles I heard and felt   did make me jump out of my 
seat and move to a better  viewing spot!  I even managed to have an 
unplanned wake up call by a single rumble Sunday morning ( the only 
uplanned wake up call that is okay/passable in my books)
I was quite surprised by the amount of rain  we got Saturday to 
Sunday lunch - quite depressing since it was supposed to be a golf 
holiday but it turned out great :  1 beacuse of the storm and 2 
whinging and whining by the guys managed to score them 12 free rounds 
of golf ($90 a round) to be used in the next month and a buggy to 
burn around the resort ( not usually offered) for free for the rest 
of the trip - the girls got that !

If anyone has any info friom the radar of rain totals for Saturday  - 
Sunday Id love to hear it - picked up bits and pieces from Anthony 
already thanks

Here a joke:
while catching up on reading emails from the list (90) I updated my 
boyfriend on the fact that I had 45 to go via ICQ;  He replies "Im a 
trooper"; to which I reply (note the fact we are hanging for the 
Phantom Menace to come out) " No Im a storm trooper" !

Pretty good for me !!

JO from Brisbane aka JOJOBA


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>Subject: aus-wx: gold coast rainfall total
>Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:38:47 +1000
>
>hey all,
>well, my gauge got a work out this weekend. dont' have daily 
records, just
>a weekend total from thursday night to monday morning. 123mm fell!! 
and it
>tasted good too:)
>stevo
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/weather.html
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
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Les,

If you plan to go, you must book your flight ASAP.  I have already 
booked my flight back to Australia from London at the end of November 
and the price of the fares can be ridiculous due to the millenium.  We 
originally were given prices ranging from #770 - #1440 and the seats 
are filling fast.  Good Luck.

regards,

John Roenfeldt. (London)


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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, Jimmy Deguara 

>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Re: Tornado Rotation
>Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:19:37 +0100
>
>
>
>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
>> We are planning a big combined chase in last week November - first 
week
>> December which should be fun. But you come when you can. Somewhere 
there
>> has to be something Atlease in Darwin there has to be.
>
>OK. We will try to be there - we have a few months to get flights to
>Darwin, etc
>organised... and someone to look after the baby 4 a coupla weeks.
>
>Expect 2 UK stormchasers - one male and one female - to join in the
>fun.... we r
>quite experienced in UK chases but this is, as they say, a completely
>different
>ballgame with us never having encountered pulse severe storms or
>supercells!!
>
>You, of course have your website and aus - wx to thank for this.
>
>Les



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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible USA Chase April / May Next year.
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:17:46 +1000
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>Sydney / Brisbane / Melbourne - Los Angeles - Dallas, Texas: $ 2278 full
>economy (this means that if there are any specials on we will be able to
>get them at much cheaper rates).
>
Yikes, have you looked in the paper lately !  Expect to pay $1150-$1400 max
for return to LA/SF.

You are being fleeced for the LA to Dallas leg, book that when you arrive in
the USA, or better still hire a car in LA and drive there, by Arizona &
Colorado to maximise you storm experience.

I have been to the US twice and my motto is - only pre-pay in Australia what
you need to get you onto USA soil, forget the package deals ( unless they
are freebies ). Car hire in Los Angeles is ridiculously cheap by Australia
standards, in 1987 it was as low as $99 a week, expect a bit more these
days. Decent Motels costs around $40 per night and outside the school
holidays or long weekends it is a waste to book ahead.

Michael




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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:49:52 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Hi andrew,


Welcome aboard. 



Lindsay

Andrew Wall wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Just a couple of things to get the ball rolling (so to speak). I have just
> joined up with this list and would like to say, I hope I will get many
> hours of enjoyment and needless to say heaps of information on the


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:18:07 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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For many years I have been convinced that heavy rainfall events are
linked to solar maxima. The rain event of June 1991 in NSW
when the surface chart looked like a February pattern and over
1000 mm of rain fell in the Warragamba catchment area in a week,I think 
was adequate proof...

Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> 
> Terry. I was reading on the weekend that the weather can be also be linked
> to other weather phenomena (such as meteor activity etc) I don't know how
> true this is BUT I was reading the emails from Blair regarding the decent
> weather events of the start of every 10 years or so and was wondering
> whether this may be linked to Sunspot activity. I have heard theories
> before that sunspot activity can have massive influences in weather
> patterns, and with the next lot of sunspot activity due next year (remember
> My predictions that 2000 will be a severe storm year for us?) maybe we just
> might see some interesting weather yet.
> 
> Any opinions?
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:42:55 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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Well, I think it might almost be time to bring out the electric blanket
from its summer hibernation. I'm actually looking forward for the
weather to turn a bit nipply. Apart from the storm season its my
favourite time of year. There's nothing better than walking along
Southbank Parklands on a Sunday when it starts to cool dramatically.

Any other thoughts from the Brisbanites on the list? Make the most of it
I say, and practice those high cirrus pics that you've been dying for.

Cheers from Brisbane,
Rosco.

BTW, theres some pics from the aftermath of the Mary River Valley floods
from the other month that I've put online. You can access them from
www.zipworld.com.au/~rportas/

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Cold air Tornado's"
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

Just wondering about something.. The BOM up here dubbed the Eumundi Tornado
(not sure of the date, but a month or so ago now) a "cold air tornado"..
Can anyone give a definition of what they think a cold air tornado is?

I've heard a few different ones so far.. I was thinking, something like a
cold pool of air in the mid/upper levels - and there was maybe a localised
region where the cap was quite strong, or maybe when the cold pool moves
over a mountain range and the cap is broken - and the warm air starts to
rise very rapidly up into the cold air when this happens, and a tornado
forms.. much like when you let the water out of the bathtub, and you get a
small vortex as the water goes down the drain.. that's an incredibly crued
way of putting it sorry..

Any thoughts??


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Hey..

On the subject of pics, i have got some aerial pictures of the Gympie
floods taken by the Department of Natural Resources, and published in the
local Gympie Times.. I'll try to get them scanned tomorrow night.. I also
got 120 (yes, 5 rolls) weather pictures developed today as well.. from
around January up to March this year, including pictures of the flooding NW
of Brisbane in early Febuary (although the roll of film with the most
important pictures on it ended up getting totally exposed..grrr).. I have
the worlds worst camera i think, a 28mm point and shoot - out of 120
pictures, there are less than 20 that are passable, and about 5 that are
worthy of some webspace.

In the few that were decent i have pictures of a small storm NW of Brisbane
on the 29th of January - it was a pretty quiet sort of day with very
isolated activity bar one storm late in the Afternoon SW of Brisbane wich i
could not take photo's of under the base becouse it was so dark (cloudtops
were estimated at between 15-16km's).. anyway, the pictures were not the
best, but there is what i believe to be a weak wall cloud, wich is shown
very well in a few of them.. there was also a strong microburst and a great
rainfoot with the rain actually rising back off the ground just outside the
rainfoot.. this dosn't show up too well on the pictures though..

They should be up within 48 hours if i'm lucky.. also, watch for a Brisbane
Storm chasers site soon :) There are allot of storms/severe weather that
goes unphotographed in SE QLD, hopefully that will change over the next
year or so..


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Towers going up near Canberra
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>We have rain!
>
>Not much, and no action, but at least it's wet stuff!
>My cunning plan worked.
>>
>>Patrick - I've just washed the car, mowed the lawn and 
>>hung some washing out. I've done my bit - if it doesn't
>>rain then it's not from lack of trying

Excellent work Chris - well done!! Let's see if we can 
keep it going tomorrow and Wednesday. The BoM are now 
going for the chance of afternoon thunderies on both
days - hope that's not the kiss of death...

Patrick

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:01:00 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi John,

John Woodbridge wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony,

> Didn't check the min this morning, yesterday was 15.0C.
> 17.5C at midnight last night.
> 
> Funnily enough, our mins typically seem to be closer to Brisbane than
> Ipswich/Amberley which is what you might expect from the location being
> in-land 13 km directly due North of Ipswich.  In fact last winter I recall
> one min which was 6 deg warmer than Amberley and 2 deg warmer than Brisbane
> airport.  I think it has something to do with being up on a ridge in well
> treed hill country rather than on an open flat.
 
I believe the treed area affecting the temps has something to do with
the transpiration of trees (although this process only happens during
the day time) it does put out a fair bit of humidity, and thus will
raise the DP slightly.  Also - trees would trap a layer of warm air (act
like a blanket) so if any wind was near by, it would be blowing the
slightly warmer air onto you...

Anthony
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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:07:22 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi Ross and all,

I do believe that this title is a severe enough offence for the 'death
penalty?'  Besides from the fact that we get a massive total of on
average, one thunderstorm during winter (higher then Sydney's summer
average? hehe j/k) it's DAM COLD!!!  I guess what really kills us, is
the positioning of the high pressure systems, during winter, we'll often
get the SW'ly winds, and although the temp may be 20C, the wind chill
can sometimes be in the single figures.  As you may remember, last
year's winter was quite mild (especially the night time temps) this was
largely due to the more E'ly winds that we were receiving then usual. 
Thus, the DP was higher, which lead to a slightly higher min, and then
the slightly higher min resulted in a slightly higher max etc. 
Basically, all Brisbane's winter is, is a change in winds, during
winter, a NE wind can give us a max temp of 27-28C, while a SW wind,
could give us a max temp of 18C...both of these are rare though, and
generally our max's lie in the low 20's, but again, this is largely due
to the wind change.  If any of you have gone to a footy match (NRL, the
only REAL footy) and sat in the Sun, I'm sure you'll quickly find
there's no lack of solar radiation!  In summer, the wind changes are not
so obvious though, it's only in winter that this effect appears to be
'magnified.'

Anthony Cornelius

Ross Portas wrote:
> 
> Well, I think it might almost be time to bring out the electric blanket
> from its summer hibernation. I'm actually looking forward for the
> weather to turn a bit nipply. Apart from the storm season its my
> favourite time of year. There's nothing better than walking along
> Southbank Parklands on a Sunday when it starts to cool dramatically.
> 
> Any other thoughts from the Brisbanites on the list? Make the most of it
> I say, and practice those high cirrus pics that you've been dying for.
> 
> Cheers from Brisbane,
> Rosco.
> 
> BTW, theres some pics from the aftermath of the Mary River Valley floods
> from the other month that I've put online. You can access them from
> www.zipworld.com.au/~rportas/
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Paul Mossman wrote:
>Yes there was a tornadoe that touched down west of wallsend some 2 years
>ago. It was widely reported but because of the little damage it caused was
>not picked up in Media Hype. The One Jimmy was talking about happened
>during a Xmas Carol concert I believe not last year but year before when a
>savage storm ripped through the concert blowing the stage over amongst
>other things. This was widely reported (by NBN) and there was extensive
>damage in the surrounding areas.

The one that happened during a christmas carols was at Speers Point, at the
northern end of Lake Macquarie. It was christmas 97 i think. I don't recall
hearing anything about a tornado, but i think a man who was out on a boat
on the lake was killed when the boat was sunk.
I was down in Warrnambool, Victoria for christmas at the time. My grandad,
who lives in Speers Point was with us, he was very interested in the news
reports of it.

Ben Munro

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:39:54 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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Hi again....

I was asked earlier tonight what happened about the photo's from the jan
10 kilcoy chase that Ben Quinn and myself went on. Well, I'm pleased to
say, they are now online too...I only uploaded the best of them, so
theres only four, but its better than none.

You can get to them from here:  Rosco's Page

Cheers,
Rosco.

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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:45:55 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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Doh!

that URL is    http://www.zipworld.com.au/~rportas/

Ross Portas wrote:

> Hi again....
>
> I was asked earlier tonight what happened about the photo's from the jan
> 10 kilcoy chase that Ben Quinn and myself went on. Well, I'm pleased to
> say, they are now online too...I only uploaded the best of them, so
> theres only four, but its better than none.
>
> You can get to them from here:  Rosco's Page
>
> Cheers,
> Rosco.
>
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Document: 990412.htm
Updated: 13 April 1999

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