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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Sunday, 25 April 1999

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001 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Aus Giant Hail --> Jan 22, 1991 SA
002 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Australian Giant Hail...oopps
003 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Adelaide 1979
004 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]      Upper level synoptics
005 Andrew Wall [astroman at wantree.com.au]          For Martin and Phil in SA
006 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Upper level synoptics
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Upper level synoptics
008 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            For Martin and Phil in SA
009 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Summer snow on NSW Central Tablelands?
010 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]              Longest tornado path (was Aus Giant Hail --> Jan 22, 1991 SA
011 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Upper level synoptics
012 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Lookout
013 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Summer snow on NSW Central Tablelands?
014 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          good lookouts??
015 Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]                  Another Cold morning For Victoria
016 Tim Grugeon [timg at iniaccess.net.au]            Summer snow on NSW Central Tablelands?
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Victorian vantage points
018 Andrew Wall [astroman at wantree.com.au]          Adelaides vantage points
019 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Weather summary for Seven Hills this week

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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aus Giant Hail --> Jan 22, 1991 SA
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:01:25 +1000
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Hi James

I recall reading some years ago, in a Weather book no longer to hand, that 
Australia actually holds the world record for the longest confirmed Tornado 
path, being 250km beginning in S.A. and finishing in Victoria.  I wonder if 
it was referring to this squall line??   (I suspect it was an American 
publication also).

>Snip
Next week if you're interested, I tell you about more severe storm 
outbreaks
in SA.  I remember one time there was a squall line that caused
uninterrupted severe damaged for over 250km!
 
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Giant Hail...oopps
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>Well, as a local, I'm very interested!  I'm especially wondering what I was
>doing that day!  I've got a horrible feeling I was on a holiday in
>Melbourne!! (D'owp!!)  This seems to be a habit of mine.  I was in Sydney
>on the Long weekend in January when a fantastic storm with roll cloud/shelf
>cloud and boiling base disrupted the cricket telecast!  I couldn't believe
>it!  I didn't get a storm in Sydney, but saw this monster on the TV coming
>over the Adelaide Oval.....
>
>Any chance you could include a few more details from that report?


Errr, that was January 1995 if anyone's interested!!

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au


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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide 1979
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James, you are a mine of information.  I might have to drop into the bureau
myself.

November (can't recall the date) 1979 was the day of one of the most
servere weather experiences I can remember.  I was at high school at the
time, but was home for the day (sickie??).  Although I didn't recognise it
at the time, that afternoon a supercell must have moved over Adelaide.  The
things I do remember were:

A huge circular lowering (shelf cloud?) fringed in red dust, possibly with
a roll cloud too.  Huge gust of wind as the gust front came through.
Under the center of the cloud, before the hail started, the clouds were
deep green, incredibly turbulent and fast moving, and seemed very close to
the ground.
At this stage it was so dark, even under our patio, that I almost couldn't
read a newspaper held at ams length.
Then the CG's, lots o' hail, and the complete destruction of the
aforementioned patio.


I'm sure this storm dropped funnels somewhere.  I seem to remember in the
Barossa valley a large wine tank (weighing many tonnes) being picked up and
depositied quite a ways away.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au


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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Upper level synoptics
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:18:02 +1000
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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me where I can find, on the net and free of charge, upper level synoptic charts? I'm particularly interested in 500 - 700 Kpa charts.

Thanks in advance

Bill
Proserpine.
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Hey now theres an idea!!!!!

If ya want Phil we could meet each other in front of the bureau??????
Martin Davey could come too if possible, I usually finish work around
1:10pm on Friday's so anything after that is okay with me...

I will be making a trip around the Adelaide area looking for spotting
sites, I already have a couple up my sleeve, and a couple I used to goto,
but they built houses on there now :(
If you know of any areas that you have found that have a clear view of the
West, N-W, N, N-E of Adelaide please let me know. 


If you would like to arrange a time you can either send me an email or
phone me on (08)82854590

Thanks

Andrew Wall
SA/NT co-ordinator for the ASWA.inc

http://lightning.virtualave.net


At 08:06 4/25/99 +0930, you wrote:
>James, you are a mine of information.  I might have to drop into the bureau
>myself.
>
>November (can't recall the date) 1979 was the day of one of the most
>servere weather experiences I can remember.  I was at high school at the
>time, but was home for the day (sickie??).  Although I didn't recognise it
>at the time, that afternoon a supercell must have moved over Adelaide.  The
>things I do remember were:
>
>A huge circular lowering (shelf cloud?) fringed in red dust, possibly with
>a roll cloud too.  Huge gust of wind as the gust front came through.
>Under the center of the cloud, before the hail started, the clouds were
>deep green, incredibly turbulent and fast moving, and seemed very close to
>the ground.
>At this stage it was so dark, even under our patio, that I almost couldn't
>read a newspaper held at ams length.
>Then the CG's, lots o' hail, and the complete destruction of the
>aforementioned patio.
>
>
>I'm sure this storm dropped funnels somewhere.  I seem to remember in the
>Barossa valley a large wine tank (weighing many tonnes) being picked up and
>depositied quite a ways away.
>
>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>paisley at cobweb.com.au
>
>
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:27:49 +1000
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Bill,

try Unisys weather

http://weather.unisys.com/aviation/index_aus.html

Jane
Bayswater

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Hi all,

Can anyone tell me where I can find, on the net and free of charge, upper
level synoptic charts? I'm particularly interested in 500 - 700 Kpa charts.

Thanks in advance

Bill
Proserpine.

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:45:51 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Bill,

Try the following sites - they're forecast models for the upper level,
but if you click on the analysis/00hrs then that will give you the
current upper level conditions.  Unfortunately, they're updated a fair
bit later then when the observations come out though.  This is where you
can use the soundings...soundings are available at

http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html
12Z soundings are not always available for all cities unfortunately.  I
think you'd be closest to Townsville (YBTL)

http://metoc-u1.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.html
This is the NGP/AVN/MRF page - click on "Australia/NZ" and then choose
what model you want to have a look at - they may not always be totally
updated, so if that's the case, try a little later.

http://grads.iges.org/pix/aus.fcst.html
This is the another MRF model...it's actually better then the previous
one (it gives you more options, and also includes a specific 700mb
height)

http://weather.unisys.com/ecmwf/restrict/
click on "AVN Model" it gives another AVN model, unfortunately the maps
can be difficult to read, but they have some useful information other
analysises/forecasts don't - such as the showalter index, and the
500-850mb RH mean.

Ok...here come my favourite upper level sites!(They're updated every
6hrs too)

http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/arlplot1.pl?metdata=AVN+191+km
Simply type in the lat/long OR WMO ID (YBTL should work to get
Townsville) and how large you want the radius of the map to be.  And
then choose what fields you want to look at, you can look at virtually
any level in the troposphere - SFC, 1000mb, 925mb, 850mb, 700mb, 500mb,
400mb, 300mb, 250mb, 200mb, 150mb, 100mb, 50mb and 20mb.  You can choose
a variety of different variables, the ones that are probably of most
day-to-day use are the RH, temp, streamlines, wind speed, pressure
vertical velocity (your VV's) and geopotential height.  You can overlay
two fields as well - this is useful so you can see both the streamlines
and windspeeds at the same time...or you can choose the 500mb temp and
the 700mb temp to see what your 500-700mb Delta-T is - there's a
mulitude of uses at this site - it's great!  There's even an archive of
the analysises, it goes back 6 months - simply click on "archive
meteorology" and choose the "FNL" model (it's the same as AVN) and
choose what data set you want (choose one with "SH" - that stands for
Southern Hemisphere) and then use it how you would normally use it. 
Remember to look at what field you're overlaying - if the field has
"SFC" on it - it means it can only be used at the SFC height, if the
field has "3D" on it, it means it cannot be used at the SFC, but only
1000mb and the other mb heights.  If it has "SFC/3D" then it can be used
for both the SFC and 3D (SFC = surface).  If you click on "current
meteorology" then you get a list of all the available models, however
AVN 191 is the best + only one that has data for Australia (with the
exception of MRF - the MRF model works like the AVN model, except it
goes to a further date).

Last but not least, we have:
http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh and
http://wesley.wwb.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/disp_mrf.sh?

Simply choose what dataset you want - and click on "show
units/variables" for a short description of the different variables. 
There's too many to explain here (and I don't even know what they all
do) but the LFTX (LI's) are probably the most useful and practical one
you'll use.  Make sure under "map projection" you choose Australia, you
can also zoom in using the lat/long - but then have the map projection
under "custom".

There's also links to upper level data at:
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/links/ozcharts.htm

I hope this helps Bill!
Anthony Cornelius

> "W.A. (Bill) Webb" wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Can anyone tell me where I can find, on the net and free of charge,
> upper level synoptic charts? I'm particularly interested in 500 - 700
> Kpa charts.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Bill
> Proserpine.
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>Hey now theres an idea!!!!!
>
>If ya want Phil we could meet each other in front of the bureau??????
>Martin Davey could come too if possible, I usually finish work around
>1:10pm on Friday's so anything after that is okay with me...


Sounds good!  I have a 'window of opportunity' between about 2.00pm and
4.00pm on Fridays.  I'll give you a buzz. (My phone no is 8362 1360)

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au


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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Summer snow on NSW Central Tablelands?
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:21:03 +1000
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Hi Chris,

		Orange has had a white Christmas. Can't remember the year. I will get back
to you on that one.


 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


>
>
> I heard that around 1976 Canberra had a white Christmas. Maybe Blair
> or others can confirm.
>
> Chris
>

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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Longest tornado path (was Aus Giant Hail --> Jan 22, 1991 SA)
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> I recall reading some years ago, in a Weather book
> no longer to hand, that 
> Australia actually holds the world record for the
> longest confirmed Tornado 
> path, being 250km beginning in S.A. and finishing in
> Victoria.  I wonder if 
> it was referring to this squall line??  

Hi John and everyone

The longest tornado path in Australia is thought to be one of ~282 km -
from Goondiwindi (QLD) to Cobbedah (NSW). Intesting that these towns
are in an approximate north-south line so it is a fairly unusual in
that respect. This is comparable to the record 472 km track of an
Illinois tornado which occurred in 1917.

In these extreme cases it is thought that several rather than a single
touchdown are responsible for a given tornado track. 
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

On the Subject of model data, i am in the process of composing a page that
will give a detailed explanation of the various Variables that are on the
MRF and AVN raw data sites, you will be able to view it either at NEMAS
(www.nemas.net) or the new 'Brisbane Storm Chasers Website' wich will be up
soon.. looks like we will have 150+ picutures for the site, maybe more..


Anthony Wrote:


Last but not least, we have:
      http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh and
      http://wesley.wwb.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/disp_mrf.sh?

      Simply choose what dataset you want - and click on "show
      units/variables" for a short description of the different variables.
      There's too many to explain here (and I don't even know what they all
      do) but the LFTX (LI's) are probably the most useful and practical
one
      you'll use. Make sure under "map projection" you choose Australia,
you
      can also zoom in using the lat/long - but then have the map
projection
      under "custom".


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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

I think it was Daniel Weatherhead that was compiling a list of Lookout
points suitable for storm spotting? well.. i have one for you Daniel.. It's
on Massey St at Ascot, in Brisbane of course.. It has a view from the West
right around to the SE, and it overlooks the city - with the city in the
foreground i think it'd be perfect for lightning photo's..


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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:12:46 +1000
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Summer snow on NSW Central Tablelands?
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Just a correction to that Tim, the Central Coast and Wyong got hit by hail
on Boxing Day with drifts up to 50cm. I have already discussed with the
list a week or so ago of the supercell that caused this.

for your consideration and for others who had "not" observed it and wish
to, here are the photographs again

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/122
6jd02.jpg    change the 02 to various numbers up to 11
and look at the sequence
ie

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/122
6jd11.jpg

Jimmy Deguara

At 17:10 24/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
>There was snow during April 1994, 1995 and 1996 on the Barrington Tops. There
>was also 5 to 10 cm of snow on the Barrington Tops during the cold
outbreak in
>November 1996. I can remember taking a drive up to Barringtons Tops around
the
>22nd of November, 1996. There was enough snow to have snow fights and make
>snowmen.
>
>There was a snowfall also on the Barrington Tops on Boxing day 1993. I'm
not to
>sure, but I think snow also on that day snow fell in Oberon. Christmas day
1993
>was the day when a large hailstorm struck the central coast.
>
>Tim Grugeon
>Morpeth (Maitland), NSW
>
>Blair Trewin wrote:
>
>> >
>> > I heard that around 1976 Canberra had a white Christmas. Maybe Blair
>> > or others can confirm.
>> >
>>  Chris
>> It's an urban legend, I'm afraid.
>> > At 08:53 24/04/99 , you wrote:
>> > > Has this ever occurred?. Even if not, has snow ever fallen in this area
>>  >before May, and if so, what are the recent occurrences?. (I know NSW has
>> > >been having a cold spell in the last few days)
>> I'm not in a position to check records easily today (will do on Monday).
>> There were major early-season cold outbreaks on April 11-12, 1994 and
>> April 7, 1995 - both had considerably lower maxima than have occurred
>> yet this year. I expect the 1994 event would have brought snow to the
>> Barrington Tops, but can't confirm at present.
>>
>> At the other end of the scale, there was a major late-season fall on
>> November 22, 1996, with widespread falls above about 600 metres in the
>> Southern and Central Tablelands. I expect there have been later
>> instances than this, but will need to check.
>>
>> I observed sleet in Aranda (a Canberra suburb) on December 18, 1991,
>> with an air temperature of 5 degrees.
>>
>> Blair Trewin
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Hi Daniel and all,

50 metres from Riverstone High School Riverstone has a good view to the W
and SW with the odd tower or poles.

There are generally good sites in the Horsley Park area apart from the one
already mentioned as Horsley Hill
Jamieson Road has one good view W


http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1995/10
28jd18.jpg  
this is the view I got on the supercell chase 1995 as the squall line
approached


Michael Bath may have mentioned the Kemps Creek lookout on Horsley Drive
just before you go down towards Kemps Creek   good view to the S


The Northern Road south of Penrith  has several vantage points particularly
around Luddenham mainly W-SW views.


Box Hill  N of Riverstone has some isolated hills and are worth exploring
although I have not visited the area in 3 years  I recall many years back a
Boys Home in Box Hill for people with special needs had a fantastic view I
think 360 degrees

Kellyville also has some good W views on and also just off Windsor Road
there is a new estate near Kellyville and I would imagine

Hogans or Rogans Hill near Castle Hill across the road from Oakhill College
has a western view

A property (Church) carpark in Quakers Hill has some nice views to the SW
to WNW I would say. This is located just off Farnham Road to get to the
entrance and then into the upper carpark

Anyway, I have given a few vantage points in general
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From: Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Another Cold morning For Victoria
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:53:04 +1000
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Frosts were again widespread across the state early with many inland centres again below zero. Lowest was -5c at Omeo, Ararat reported -4c. Around Melbourne Coldstream near Lilydale reported -3c, Laverton 0c, Scoresby and Moorabbin 1c. My reading here in Kilsyth was 0.8c the fourth morning in a row of 2.0c or lower. Dane-Kilsyth (Melbourne)     
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:26:45 +1000
From: Tim Grugeon [timg at iniaccess.net.au]
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I knew I had that date wrong after I sent the message. I was day in front of
myself.

Tim Grugeon

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Just a correction to that Tim, the Central Coast and Wyong got hit by hail
> on Boxing Day with drifts up to 50cm. I have already discussed with the
> list a week or so ago of the supercell that caused this.
>
> for your consideration and for others who had "not" observed it and wish
> to, here are the photographs again
>
> http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/122
> 6jd02.jpg    change the 02 to various numbers up to 11
> and look at the sequence
> ie
>
> http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/122
> 6jd11.jpg
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 17:10 24/04/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >There was snow during April 1994, 1995 and 1996 on the Barrington Tops. There
> >was also 5 to 10 cm of snow on the Barrington Tops during the cold
> outbreak in
> >November 1996. I can remember taking a drive up to Barringtons Tops around
> the
> >22nd of November, 1996. There was enough snow to have snow fights and make
> >snowmen.
> >
> >There was a snowfall also on the Barrington Tops on Boxing day 1993. I'm
> not to
> >sure, but I think snow also on that day snow fell in Oberon. Christmas day
> 1993
> >was the day when a large hailstorm struck the central coast.
> >
> >Tim Grugeon
> >Morpeth (Maitland), NSW
> >
> >Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >> > I heard that around 1976 Canberra had a white Christmas. Maybe Blair
> >> > or others can confirm.
> >> >
> >>  Chris
> >> It's an urban legend, I'm afraid.
> >> > At 08:53 24/04/99 , you wrote:
> >> > > Has this ever occurred?. Even if not, has snow ever fallen in this area
> >>  >before May, and if so, what are the recent occurrences?. (I know NSW has
> >> > >been having a cold spell in the last few days)
> >> I'm not in a position to check records easily today (will do on Monday).
> >> There were major early-season cold outbreaks on April 11-12, 1994 and
> >> April 7, 1995 - both had considerably lower maxima than have occurred
> >> yet this year. I expect the 1994 event would have brought snow to the
> >> Barrington Tops, but can't confirm at present.
> >>
> >> At the other end of the scale, there was a major late-season fall on
> >> November 22, 1996, with widespread falls above about 600 metres in the
> >> Southern and Central Tablelands. I expect there have been later
> >> instances than this, but will need to check.
> >>
> >> I observed sleet in Aranda (a Canberra suburb) on December 18, 1991,
> >> with an air temperature of 5 degrees.
> >>
> >> Blair Trewin
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Victorian vantage points
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:09:47 +1000
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Melbourne vantage points - edition 1 (lots more to come - with apolgies for
my slackness to Daniel)

1. Mt Dandenong - carpark at summit - looks NW - SSW
2. 5 Ways carpark - Mt Dandenong Tourist Road - looks SE - NE
3. Intersection of Wellington Road & Lysterfield Road, Rowville - looks N -
SW

Jane
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Well there are quite a few with the Adelaide hills looking onto the plains.
I am in the proccess of driving all around the hills area, searching for
areas which look out over the st. Vincent gulf. Some I have found today are..

1.> Wynn Vale Lookout or Lions park scenic lookout, located in the suburb
of Wynn Vale. It has excellent views all round, except for a couple of
buildings and trees to the NE. It has excellent views over the Adelaide
CBD. One worth checking out.. It also has a clearing if you wish to set up
your cameras etc.. Ample parking is available at the Salvation Army Church,
right next door. The lookout is enclosed with a gazebo type structure (so
if it does rain you wont get your feet wet), with a monument in the center
(good for setting up small tripods on).

2.> One not far from the lookout is located on Swansea ct, located just off
Wynn Vale Drive. I found this to be a very scenic observation point looking
out to the West through a valley, good views from the SW all the way around
to the North. This is an area where many new houses are going up, so I
don't expect it to stay the way it is for long..

3.> Another road just off Wynn Vale Drive is Greenridge ct, this is an
excellent scenic area,
I have not yet fully looked around this area, but it looks as though there
is a small track which leads to the front of the hill, giving a excellent
view fron the South through to the North. There is another road which goes
the same way (grasslands ct), this prooved to be a miss leading name, it is
not very good for observing. But it has a nice view of the other valley.

These 3 are just some of the areas in Adelaide where you can set up a
camera, I will post more as I find them, I think this will be a long
ride... I might even put up a web page on it for the ASWA.Inc.

regards 
Andrew Wall
SA/NT coordinator for the ASWA.Inc..

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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:02:57 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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See attached..weeklysummaries

Summary of weather observations for Seven Hills--week ended Saturday 24th April, 1999

Observation	 Reading	 Date of extreme	
Average maximum	 22.0	  	
Average minimum	 11.4	  	
Average terrestrial minimum	 6.9	  	
Highest maximum	 26.1	 19	
Lowest maximum	 17.6	 23	
Highest minimum	 12.5	 18	
Lowest minimum	 9.4	 22	
Highest terrestrial minimum	 8.7	 23	
Lowest terrestrial minimum	 4.4	 20	
Total rainfall	 1.8	  	
Rain days	 2	  	
Highest daily rainfall	 1.0	 23	
Total evaporation	 29.6	  	
Total wind run	 1526.3	  	
Highest wind run	 479.0	 23	
Lowest barometer	 1013.0	 20	
Highest barometer	 1025.2	 22	
Thunder	 0	  	
Lightning	 0	  	
Hail	 0	  	
Frost	 0	  	
Fog	 0	  	
Byram Keetch drought index as at 23/4/1999	 56.9	  	
Last Updated on 25/04/99
By Keith Barnett 
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