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001 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Adelaides vantage points
002 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Dates for early- and late-season snow
003 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] More records from the weekend
004 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Adelaide 1979
005 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] ASWA Inc. Web Site
006 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Adelaide 1979
007 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] ASWA Inc. Web Site
008 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] ASWA Inc. Web Site
009 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au] Even more broken records.
010 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] NSW Snow story
011 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] ASWA Inc. Web Site
012 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] ASWA Inc. Web Site
013 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au] Hail in Melbourne
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>Well there are quite a few with the Adelaide hills looking onto the plains.
>I am in the proccess of driving all around the hills area, searching for
>areas which look out over the st. Vincent gulf. Some I have found today are..
>
>1.> Wynn Vale Lookout or Lions park scenic lookout, located in the suburb
>of Wynn Vale. It has excellent views all round, except for a couple of
>buildings and trees to the NE. It has excellent views over the Adelaide
>CBD. One worth checking out.. It also has a clearing if you wish to set up
>your cameras etc.. Ample parking is available at the Salvation Army Church,
>right next door. The lookout is enclosed with a gazebo type structure (so
>if it does rain you wont get your feet wet), with a monument in the center
>(good for setting up small tripods on).
>
>2.> One not far from the lookout is located on Swansea ct, located just off
>Wynn Vale Drive. I found this to be a very scenic observation point looking
>out to the West through a valley, good views from the SW all the way around
>to the North. This is an area where many new houses are going up, so I
>don't expect it to stay the way it is for long..
>
>3.> Another road just off Wynn Vale Drive is Greenridge ct, this is an
>excellent scenic area,
>I have not yet fully looked around this area, but it looks as though there
>is a small track which leads to the front of the hill, giving a excellent
>view fron the South through to the North. There is another road which goes
>the same way (grasslands ct), this prooved to be a miss leading name, it is
>not very good for observing. But it has a nice view of the other valley.
>
>These 3 are just some of the areas in Adelaide where you can set up a
>camera, I will post more as I find them, I think this will be a long
>ride... I might even put up a web page on it for the ASWA.Inc.
>
>regards
>Andrew Wall
>SA/NT coordinator for the ASWA.Inc..
To which I might add Andrew,
1. For that squall line that's already on the horizon - Montefiore Hill
North Adelaide (Great views east, south and south west)
2. Upper Coach Rd Skye (Great Views west)
3. Osmond Rd, Mt Osmond (ditto)
4. Lighthouse at Marino Conservation Park (a short walk from the carpark
on Nimboya Rd, right over the sea, great views west to north)
5. Menglers Hill, Barossa Valley (I've mentioned this one before)
6. Top Of the Grove Way, Golden Grove (east, west, north)
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Dates for early- and late-season snow
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With the caveat that reporting of snow appears to be patchy, to say
the least, in the climate archive (for example, Canberra's greatest-
ever snowfall in July 1949 failed to get a snow flag in the database,
yet another event later the same year did), and that some of the
high elevation stations have gaps in their record, the following are
dates of early- and late-season snow events in NSW:
Guyra (representative of highest parts of Northern Tablelands)
Earliest 13 April 1994
Latest 12 November 1965 (there is also a report from 11-12
November 1989, but as the minimum temperature for
these two days was 6.2, I doubt it)
Central Tablelands:
Oberon (note: several gaps in record - reliable only since 1990)
Earliest 8 April 1995 (also 12 April 1994). An alleged report
on 18 March can be discounted - min temp was 13.6.
Latest 27 December 1993 (also 22 November 1996, 16 November
1988)
Orange
Earliest 8 April 1995 (also 11-12 April 1994)
Latest 22 November 1996 (also 7-8 November 1971)
Katoomba
Earliest 7 April 1995 (also 12 April 1996 - not 1994, though)
Latest 22 November 1996 (also 17 November 1983)
Southern Tablelands:
Canberra
Earliest 15 April 1940
Latest 3 November 1949 (also 27 October 1998)
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: More records from the weekend
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Some more records from the weekend (although I haven't done a
comprehensive survey):
Canberra - lowest April min on record (-3.7 - previously -3.6 (1978))
on Sunday. (I rang the Canberra Met Office to confirm the observation,
having seen it as a -4 on the 0900 bulletin, and the person on duty
hadn't realised it was a record - I think he was getting ready to
scurry out and put out a media release once I rang :-)
Laverton (near Melbourne) - broke its April record of 0.6 on Saturday
(0.5) and again on Sunday (0.4). Quite impressive, as Laverton is
fairly representative (in terms of topography, distance from the coast
etc.) of what Melbourne used to be like before the urban heat island
got hold of it.
(Melbourne itself recorded 4.7 on Sunday, the lowest since 1979, and
the first instance since 19-21 April 1955 of three consecutive nights
below 6).
Although the station hasn't been going for long enough for the record
to be meaningful, I was also singularly impressed with Cooma Airport's
-8.4 on Sunday (especially as it still made it up to 18.9 during the
day).
The dryness of the air has been a feature; Melbourne's dew-point was
down around -5 at times on Saturday afternoon. Anything below 0 is
rare here.
Blair Trewin
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide 1979
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:00:33 +1000
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G'day Phil and all
Unfortunately I don't have a lot of info concerning that event. Only this
from the report I sourced last email:
"In terms of damage cost, the Adelaide storm (22 Jan '91) was more severe
than the thunderstorm which struck the metro area on 6 December 1986, when
severe downbursts caused the equivalent of $11 million damage (adjusted to
'91 figures). The event of 22 and 23 Jan '91 compares in severity with the
severe thunderstorm outbreak of 14 November 1979 when downbursts and
tornadoes through mid-northern and eastern parts of SA caused the equivalent
of $50 million damage."
Regards
James Chambers, Brisbane
>James, you are a mine of information. I might have to drop into the bureau
>myself.
>
>November (can't recall the date) 1979 was the day of one of the most
>servere weather experiences I can remember. I was at high school at the
>time, but was home for the day (sickie??). Although I didn't recognise it
>at the time, that afternoon a supercell must have moved over Adelaide. The
>things I do remember were:
>
>A huge circular lowering (shelf cloud?) fringed in red dust, possibly with
>a roll cloud too. Huge gust of wind as the gust front came through.
>Under the center of the cloud, before the hail started, the clouds were
>deep green, incredibly turbulent and fast moving, and seemed very close to
>the ground.
>At this stage it was so dark, even under our patio, that I almost couldn't
>read a newspaper held at ams length.
>Then the CG's, lots o' hail, and the complete destruction of the
>aforementioned patio.
>
>
>I'm sure this storm dropped funnels somewhere. I seem to remember in the
>Barossa valley a large wine tank (weighing many tonnes) being picked up and
>depositied quite a ways away.
>
>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:02:59 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Hi All,
Its up
Go to
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
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Michael Fewings
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide 1979
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:36:28 +1000
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Hi again Phil, all
The Nov 14 1979 event was actually the one with not one but 2 damage paths
at least 250km long. I just found the report (which I didn't know I
had...doh), so I'll give you a bit more information in a couple of days
after I've gone through it. Certainly a significant event in the history of
severe Australian thunderstorms.
James
>
>"In terms of damage cost, the Adelaide storm (22 Jan '91) was more severe
>than the thunderstorm which struck the metro area on 6 December 1986, when
>severe downbursts caused the equivalent of $11 million damage (adjusted to
>'91 figures). The event of 22 and 23 Jan '91 compares in severity with the
>severe thunderstorm outbreak of 14 November 1979 when downbursts and
>tornadoes through mid-northern and eastern parts of SA caused the
equivalent
>of $50 million damage."
>
>Regards
>James Chambers, Brisbane
>
>
>>James, you are a mine of information. I might have to drop into the
bureau
>>myself.
>>
>>November (can't recall the date) 1979 was the day of one of the most
>>servere weather experiences I can remember. I was at high school at the
>>time, but was home for the day (sickie??). Although I didn't recognise it
>>at the time, that afternoon a supercell must have moved over Adelaide.
The
>>things I do remember were:
>>
>>A huge circular lowering (shelf cloud?) fringed in red dust, possibly with
>>a roll cloud too. Huge gust of wind as the gust front came through.
>>Under the center of the cloud, before the hail started, the clouds were
>>deep green, incredibly turbulent and fast moving, and seemed very close to
>>the ground.
>>At this stage it was so dark, even under our patio, that I almost couldn't
>>read a newspaper held at ams length.
>>Then the CG's, lots o' hail, and the complete destruction of the
>>aforementioned patio.
>>
>>
>>I'm sure this storm dropped funnels somewhere. I seem to remember in the
>>Barossa valley a large wine tank (weighing many tonnes) being picked up
and
>>depositied quite a ways away.
>>
>>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>>paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: ASWA Inc. Web Site
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:38:16 +1000
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G'day Michael, Greg and all
I just had a quick look at the site - well done!
James Chambers, Brisbane.
>Hi All,
>
>Its up
>
>Go to
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
>and enjoy.
>--
>Michael Fewings
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>http://strikeone.com.au
>
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:35:55 +1000
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Michael,
Congratulations on a job well done. This is a great site!!!!!!! Thanks
for all your hard work.
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Inc. Web Site
>Hi All,
>
>Its up
>
>Go to
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
>and enjoy.
>--
>Michael Fewings
>Strike One Lightning Photos
>http://strikeone.com.au
>
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At 11:49 AM 26-04-99 +1000, Blair Trewin wrote:
>Some more records from the weekend (although I haven't done a
>comprehensive survey):
>
>Canberra - lowest April min on record (-3.7 - previously -3.6 (1978))
>on Sunday. (I rang the Canberra Met Office to confirm the observation,
>having seen it as a -4 on the 0900 bulletin, and the person on duty
>hadn't realised it was a record - I think he was getting ready to
>scurry out and put out a media release once I rang :-)
>
>Laverton (near Melbourne) - broke its April record of 0.6 on Saturday
>(0.5) and again on Sunday (0.4). Quite impressive, as Laverton is
>fairly representative (in terms of topography, distance from the coast
>etc.) of what Melbourne used to be like before the urban heat island
>got hold of it.
>
>(Melbourne itself recorded 4.7 on Sunday, the lowest since 1979, and
>the first instance since 19-21 April 1955 of three consecutive nights
>below 6).
>
>Although the station hasn't been going for long enough for the record
>to be meaningful, I was also singularly impressed with Cooma Airport's
>-8.4 on Sunday (especially as it still made it up to 18.9 during the
>day).
>
>The dryness of the air has been a feature; Melbourne's dew-point was
>down around -5 at times on Saturday afternoon. Anything below 0 is
>rare here.
>
>Blair Trewin
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More broken records.
Geelong's lowest overnight temperature record for April (1.9 degrees) was
reached on the morning of the 24th. But there is a problem with Geelong
figures: they are measured at a rural airport and are never truly
representative of the urban area; nevertheless we'll use them for
comparative purposes. The 26th has also just recorded April's second
coldest day with 13.3 (Coldest 12.5 in 1995).
Regards to all.
Lindsay Smail, at Geelong Weather Services.
www.pipeline.com.au/users/gws
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Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:51:18 -0700
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I have been re-reading some of my stored snow stories/emails and the
email following this reminded me of our snowfalls last year.
We had some form of snow in each month from June through to October last
year. Heaviest dump was in August but some decent and somtimes heavy
(short-lived though) flurries in other months. We had snow on ground a a
few times but the best one was in August for sure. On that day my
partner took the train to work to Wentworth Falls (from here in
Blackheath) and she said it looked like the Rocky Mountains on the hills
out towards Shooters Hill way - that's around 1400 metres out there.
Shooters Hill is the high ground a few clicks south (roughly) of Oberon.
Here's hoping we get some nice white stuff this year. That cold air last
week was interesting, we had mornings of around 3-5 (stayed that way
say, until lunchtime) but not quite could enough or enough moisture for
snow, I guess.
Lindsay Pearce
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> An Aunty of mine that has always lived in the Hill End - Orange - Bathurst
> areas says that the first year she moved to Bathurst in the early 1950's it
> snowed at least once in every month from May to October on one particular
[Snip]
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>Hi All,
>
>Its up
>
>Go to
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
>and enjoy.
>--
>Michael Fewings
Excellent and congratulations all round!
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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Hi Guys.
Congrats on all the hard work everyone. The site looks fantastic. Can't
wait for the photo comp to begin :-)
Now us members of the ASWA Inc have a site to be proud off.
Regards
Andrew
P.S. Another nice day here GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
ASWA - SA/NT rep.
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Hail in Melbourne
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:09:20 +1000
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Hi all
Not a bad little hail shower just passed over my place, Ashwood, Melbourne.
Stones about .5cm, nice cover on the ground and 7mm. Lasted about 5min.
Looking at the sat pic there is some nice cold air heading our way.
Nick Sykes
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> Hi Guys.
>
> Congrats on all the hard work everyone. The site looks fantastic. Can't
> wait for the photo comp to begin :-)
>
> Now us members of the ASWA Inc have a site to be proud off.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
> P.S. Another nice day here GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>
> ASWA - SA/NT rep.
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