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001 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               April 26 Meteor
002 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Cyclone names - shock jocks
003 "The Weather Co." [twc at theweather.com.au]      NT record
004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      Brisbane Wx
005 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Brisbane Wx
006 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        NT record
007 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Record cold
008 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Seabreeze Fronts
009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Cyclone names - shock jocks
010 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            NW-NSW storms...
011 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      NW-NSW storms...
012 Bodie_27 at postmaster.co.uk                      Seabreeze Fronts
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Surprising amount of rain

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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: April 26 Meteor
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:37:11 +1000
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Congratulations Jason (Smith) for seeing a fantastic meteor, which, as it
sounds, may have spawned a meteorite. Humph! I dream of seeing such a cosmic
splendor!

There was a meteor shower recently called the Lyrids which was active from
April 16 to 25, and peaked in activity on the 22nd. The predicted hourly
rate at it's peak was 15 per hour (not too bad, astronomically speaking).
The meteor that you saw could well have been a 'left-over' from the Lyrids
shower, however, it occured a day after the shower was forecast to end.

There was another shower (the pi-Puppids) active at the time (April 15 - 28,
with a peak on the 24th). This shower is only occassionally active, but may
have produced the meteor you saw, which occured closer to this shower's
predicted peak. (There are also two other showers which were (and still are)
active, but are not due to peak until May.)

Meteor showers are notoriously hard to predict, with peak rates which often
well exceed (or fall well below) that predicted.

Apologies to those uninterested for straying from the primary topic of the
list, but it seemed appropriate.

Cheers,

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
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Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
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>From Jason Smith:

>I also saw a huge meteorite that lit the whole sky over torwards the Gold
Coast.  It started of green then yellow and finally exploded in a big red
fireball.  It managed to catch my attention even though I was looking the
other way.  Does anyone know anything about this or where I could get more
info???????
>
>Thanks
>Pommy
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>(In Clement Wragge's day, he named cyclones after people - especially
>politicians with which he was in disagreement - on purpose, but I
>don't think you could get away with that now, much as I'd like to be
>able to name a particularly destructive storm after Stan Zemanek
>after his performance post-Sydney hailstorm, which got a well-deserved
>roasting on 'Media Watch' last week).
>
>Blair Trewin

I missed it!  What exactly did Zemanek have to say for himself?  (I think I
can guess....)

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au


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From: "The Weather Co." [twc at theweather.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: NT record
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Morning all,
It seems that Alice Springs and Darwin got very close to their April MIN
records last night. Does anybody have any accurate figures to confirm?
thanks, Mark

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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:50:21 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,

Looking good for tomorrow!  -2 LI's are 03/06z tomorrow, and -4 at 06z
on the border ranges!  I haven't had much time to check other things,
because I've been experimenting with ways to get CAPE...but, CAPE could
be knocking 1000 tomorrow....we'll see though, out to sea it could
possibly be higher.  It's difficult to get a true representation though,
because of the way the forecast soundings are done.

Some medium convection has sprung up in the last hour - this is good! 
Variable SE/NE breeze, gotta run - uni, hopefully we'll be doing a spot
of chasing tomorrow.  I've got a car + license - woohoo!!

Anthony from Brisbane
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Congratulations on your licence!!!!!!!

Jane
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>Hi all,
>
>Looking good for tomorrow!  -2 LI's are 03/06z tomorrow, and -4 at 06z
>on the border ranges!  I haven't had much time to check other things,
>because I've been experimenting with ways to get CAPE...but, CAPE could
>be knocking 1000 tomorrow....we'll see though, out to sea it could
>possibly be higher.  It's difficult to get a true representation though,
>because of the way the forecast soundings are done.
>
>Some medium convection has sprung up in the last hour - this is good! 
>Variable SE/NE breeze, gotta run - uni, hopefully we'll be doing a spot
>of chasing tomorrow.  I've got a car + license - woohoo!!
>
>Anthony from Brisbane
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NT record
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> 
> Morning all,
> It seems that Alice Springs and Darwin got very close to their April MIN
> records last night. Does anybody have any accurate figures to confirm?
> thanks, Mark
> 
Darwin (20) was nowhere near its record (16.0), although it was the
lowest in April since 1994. Alice Springs (2) might, but probably
hasn't, broken its record of 1.7 - I only have figures to the nearest
degree from there. (It was also 2 yesterday).

The most notable NT obs was probably Alyangula (on Groote Eylandt)
which got down to 12. There are only 13 years of obs, but even with
13 years, getting a temp 4 below the April record and 3.5 below the
May record is quite an impressive effort! Most of the other decent-
quality NT stations with records of reasonable length (this statement
is close to being oxymoronic!) missed their April records by 1-2
degrees. 

Two records in Queensland though (both breaking records set yesterday)

Longreach	3 (previously 5)
Burketown	11.5 (previously 11.6)

and two possibles (in addition to Alice Springs):

Birdsville	6 (previously 6.0; also 6 yesterday)
Wyndham		17 (previously 17.1)

The Wyndham obs, if it is a record, will mean that this cold outbreak
will have the rare distinction of having broken record lows in every
state and territory. Even Antarctica hasn't escaped - Casey set a
new April record with -31 on Wednesday. (Casey has actually been
extremely cold - its monthly mean is running 8.2 degrees below 
average - easily the coldest April on record and the coldest month of
any name since August 1987).

I haven't done a thorough check yet, but I expect many April records
for lowest mean minimum will be broken, particularly in the inland
south-east. There will also be records broken for highest mean max
in SW WA.

Blair Trewin
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:40:05 +1000
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Hi Blair,

This cold outbreak is certainly widespread and I wonder if this is not a 
sign of things to come for this Winter given the Antarctic situation? 
 Ignoring SW W.A. for the moment, which I feel is an anomaly based upon the 
prevailing weather patterns (I don't want to go there again!!) and perhaps 
influenced by the amount of warm water off the NW shelf), I wonder further 
what has instigated the cold outbreak - has there been some downturn in 
Solar radiation or exceptional cloud cover over the Antarctic continent? 
 The conditions we have had in Brisbane for the last week or so is very 
much not what I would have expected in a La Nina environment.  I wonder if 
there is any correlation as far as the cold outbreak goes in South Africa 
or South America??

Regards,
John.
>snip
Even Antarctica hasn't escaped - Casey set a
new April record with -31 on Wednesday. (Casey has actually been
extremely cold - its monthly mean is running 8.2 degrees below
average - easily the coldest April on record and the coldest month of
any name since August 1987).

I haven't done a thorough check yet, but I expect many April records
for lowest mean minimum will be broken, particularly in the inland
south-east. There will also be records broken for highest mean max
in SW WA.


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Hi Ben,

Sorry for not responding to this query until now.

Unfortunately I don't have any photos of the sea-breeze
front. Part of the problem is the scale of the front itself
- stretching as it does across the whole sky.

Depending on the overall stability of the atmosphere,
the resulting cloud types can vary from a few isolated
scud cu (that you can identify as being part of a line
gradually moving in from the coast but hard to get in a camera
frame) to more substantial congestus and occasional cb
that develops as a result of the uplift triggered by the
arrival of the cooler coastal air and its attendant moisture
source (important when the original air was unstable but dry).

As the cloud that that does develop is of a cellular nature
rather than a continuous line, it has been quite difficult
to actually get a photo that looks anything other than a
discrete cu cell. A couple of times this year, I have
gone close to getting a more continuous line photo but it
hasn't really worked. I will have to try again next season.

I did notice a while back that on Jimmy D and Michael B's
site that they do have some good photos of the sea breeze
moving over Sydney - I don't remember the exact part of the
site though.

The other thing I will remember to do when I next see it is
to post to the group a reference to the satellite imagery
- particularly the animations which show up the sea breeze
fronts really well. Around Australia, I have noticed that
a good line is often detectable in NSW (in summer) between
around the Blue Mtns stretching south to the Snowy Mtns area.
You can sometimes follow its passage 200-300km inland.

The other area in Aust that I have noticed strong sea-breeze
effects from the satellite imagery is in the Kimberly/Pilbara
regions. There, as well as seeing the line advancing inland,
you sometimes see a good cb cell forming as well...

Regards,

Patrick


>
>Heya Patrick
>
>Just wondering, do you have any pictures of the sea breeze fronts you guys
>get down there? or does anyone else for that matter?? just been reading up
>on them the last few days, i think i may have seen one on my dads property
>(approx. 70 k's inland) at one stage, from wich we got a fews spots of rain
>(very large Tcu) and the NE/E wind was quite fresh and gusty as the Line of
>Tcu neared. I find them very interesting..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       Hi all,
>
>       At 10.30am Monday (12/4) I notice some nice towers going
>       up on the Brindabellas to the W and SW of Canberra.
>
>       This follows from a morning with a good scattering
>       of castellanus and ac. We also had fairly widespread valley
>       fog which burnt off by about 9.00am.
>
>       Don't know what the upper atmosphere is like but there
>       does appear to be some good potential for early this
>       afternoon (notwithstanding the weak April sun).
>
>       Observed a very nice pulse cell between about 3-5pm
>       yesterday afternoon in non-roaded areas to the ESE of
>       Canberra - so the potential is still there.
>
>       Good to hear of the coastal action over the last few days.
>
>       Patrick
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone names - shock jocks
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> 
> 
> >(In Clement Wragge's day, he named cyclones after people - especially
> >politicians with which he was in disagreement - on purpose, but I
> >don't think you could get away with that now, much as I'd like to be
> >able to name a particularly destructive storm after Stan Zemanek
> >after his performance post-Sydney hailstorm, which got a well-deserved
> >roasting on 'Media Watch' last week).
> >
> >Blair Trewin
> 
> I missed it!  What exactly did Zemanek have to say for himself?  (I think I
> can guess....)
> 
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au
He rang the duty forecaster after the storm and said, among other
pleasantries, 'why don't you get off your fat arse and do something'
(to which the obvious response was given, 'because I'm talking to
you!').

I forget the rest of the 'discussion', but it was conducted in a
similarly civil vein.

(BTW, after the Sydney-Hobart race, Stan also got stuck into the
Bureau; the NSW regional director offered to discuss the matter live
with him, on the condition that Stan didn't cut him off if he said
something he didn't like. Stan refused).

Blair Trewin

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Hi, does anyone have any information on the storms in the NW of NSW at 
present (Friday, 30th, April, 1999)?  They seem to be well developed on the 
satellite pictures and it looks like there could be potential for some 
severe weather.  Presently, there is an upper air trough in the region with 
the Cobar and Wagga soundings' 500mb temp at about -23 while to the east, 
Williamtown and Moree are at about -20.  There could be some interesting 
weather on the way...
- Paul G.


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Hey Paul, Ben from Brisbane here..

I'm so wrapped to see those storms in NW-NSW at the moment.. Anthony and i
have been following this whole system on the models for about the past
week.. it's look very very nice, with it expected to be virtually over the
top of Brisbane late tomorrow afternoon - i've got a feeling about
tomorrow, the BOM have been slowly changing the forecasts to more storms
than showers, and the models have actually strengthened the system over the
last few days.. with todays runs strengthening it further and looking even
better for Brisbane.  A 148 Knot Jetstream in Brisbane today BTW, and it
looks set to hang around for at least the next few days.. Hopefully when
this system hits the moisture on the coast things will really start to
happen..

Unfortunately i can't see those storms on any radars at the moment, but
yeah they do look nice..

Also, another thing is the upper level winds indicate to me that the
weather could move up from the south.. this would bring any storms/weather
off the Border ranges SSW and SW of Brisbane (most variables - LI's and
VV's etc are strongest S of Brisbane too).. I think we have a chance of
some severe weather tomorrow.. and hail is  a strong possibility too..

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)


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Hey Patrick..

I was on my dads property (probably 100km inland or so) a year or so ago,
and we recieved quite a strong sea breeze front late in the afternoon
(4-5pm).. I didn't realize it was a seabreeze front at the time though..
The Tcu approached from the East and stretched in a line N/S for 80km at
least, and they had a great orange tinge to them with the afternoon sun
lighing them up.. i still can't believe they didn't develope into storms,
the bases were very turbulent, low and very dark.. we only got a few spits
out the whole thing but the temperature dropped quite noticably.. i'd
estimate 4-5C easy.. and the NE/E wind was quite strong just before the
bases were overhead.. unfortunately i was working at the time and didn't
have a camera on me (grrr).. it would have made a great picture that's for
sure..

BTW - anyone have any thoughts on the Upper Level system that is expected
in Southern QLD tomorrow? I'd be interested to hear other peoples
oppinions..


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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Surprising amount of rain
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:54:27 +1000
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We have had heavy showers on and off here most of the evening, if anything
they are getting more frequent. Took me by surprise as I was forecasting a
clearing trend.

More rain so far this afternoon and night then for the whole east coast low
episode.

Michael Thompson
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