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001 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] NT record and other paranoid stuff...
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] SE QLD Wx Today
003 disarm at braenet.com.au rainfall total for April
004 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] FNMOC Models??
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Warm Aussie Snow
006 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] ASWA Meeting breaks for wx!
007 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject)
008 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] FNMOC Models??
009 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) FNMOC Models??
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] FNMOC Models??
011 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] FNMOC Models??
012 Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com] SEQ Chase
013 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Fw: CLOUDSAT TO REVOLUTIONIZE STUDY OF CLOUDS AND CLIMATE
014 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] FNMOC Models??
015 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Australian article - Met careers
016 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] GASP charts
017 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) FNMOC Models??
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] FNMOC Models??
019 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) GASP charts
020 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] FNMOC Models??
021 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) FNMOC Models??
022 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) FNMOC Models??
023 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Notes from the ASWA meeting - Victoria
024 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] SEQ Chase
025 Rebekah Hoare [rebekah at tnet.com.au] finally
026 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] finally
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NT record and other paranoid stuff...
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:07:01 PDT
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Hi Blair!
Is it just me or do records seem to be folding all over the place?
I like the concept of the hottest ever January on record (in this neck of
the woods) followed by some of the coldest April T's on record!
Then we get really cold T's in Antarctica too (straight after what I heard
were the biggest break-offs in shelf history!!!)
err...is there a message in any of this...or is the stuff I heard at Uni
about global warming happening? i.e. more extreme weather?
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 08:22:55 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,
Well - it still doesn't look too bad, I saw some accas at around 6am
this morning...only small, and didn't last long though. But those
storms that formed in NW NSW have continued, and are still going (in a
slightly weakened state now) but there was pink near Moree on radar at
5:50am-6:30am this morning though. We're still in for a fair chance,
we'll most likely be chasing after the meeting if things still look
good, my mobile number is 0417 759 304 - if anyone can keep us updated,
that'd be good. Ring reverse charges if you like...
Anthony Cornelius
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Subject: aus-wx: rainfall total for April
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275.5mm total for April here in Burwood, Sydney NSW
Matt Smith
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Subject: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:35:38 PDT
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Hi all,
Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
intentions are regarding the availability of the
Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
following status message:
FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
Map DTG: 1999043012
WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
ie our upstream areas.
Patrick
By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:00:48 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Hello all,
Enclosed is a summarised article from a good text book of mine on, "When
is it too warm to snow?" I hope it isn't too long to be posted here but
I just thought it was really relevent for Aussie snow conditions
especially outside of our Alps. Feel free to comment or criticise the
article, especially those of you who know much more about this subject
than me.
Lindsay Pearce.
PS: Since Wednesday, none of our maximum temps have exceeded 9.5 and we
had an average max of 13.7 here in the upper mountains for the month of
April. My rainfall for April was 112 mm. Note: these are amateur records
only, I dont have the required official distance when it comes to my
rain gauge being a certain distance from trees although my readings
compare favourably with the official readings most of the time.
When is it too warm to snow?
(Adapted from C. Donald Ahrens - Meteorology Today)
In some areas snow storms often begin with a surface area temperature of
near 2 degrees celsius. Why doesn't the falling snow melt in this air?
Well it does melt, at least to some degree.
For snow to survive in air much above freezing the air must be unsaturated
(relative humidity is less than 100%),and the wet bulb temperature must be
at freezing or below. The wet bulb temperature is the lowest temperature
that can be obtained by evaporating water into the air. Consequently, it
is a measure of the amount of cooling that can occur in the atmosphere as
water evaporates into the air.
When rain falls into a layer of dry air with a low wet bulb temperature,
rapid evaporation and cooling occur. This is why the air temperature often
decreases when it begins to rain. During the winter as raindrops
evaporate into this dry air, rapid cooling may actually change a rainy day
into a snowy one. This same type of cooling allows snowflakes to survive
above freezing temperatures.
Suppose it is winter and the sky is overcast. At the surface the air
temperature is 2 degrees celsius (36f), the dew point is -6 degrees
celsius (21f), and the wet bulb is 0 degrees celsius (32 degrees).
(Note: The wet bulb temperature is always higher than the dew point ,
except when the air is saturated. At that point the air temperature, wet
bulb temperature, and the dew point are all the same)
The air temperature drops sharply with height, from the surface up to the
cloud deck. Soon, flakes of snow begin to fall from the clouds into the
unsaturated layer below. In the air where temperatures are above freezing,
the snow flakes begin to partially melt. The air, however, is dry so the
water quickly evaporates, cooling the air. In addition, evaporation cools
the falling snowflake to the wet bulb temperature to the wet-bulb
temperature, which retards its rate of melting. As snow continues to fall,
evaporative cooling causes the air temperature to continue to drop. The
addition of water vapour to the air increases the dew point, while the
wet-bulb temperature remains essentially the same. Eventually, the entire
layer of air cools to the wet-bulb temperature and becomes saturated at 0
degrees celsius. As long as the wind doesn't bring in warmer air, the
precipitation remains as snow.
We can see that when snow falls into warmer air (say at 8 degrees celsius
or 46f), the air must be extremely dry in order to have a wet-bulb
temperature at freezing or below. In fact for snow to fall at this
temperature we would need a wet bulb temperature of zero and a dew point
of - 23 celsius and a relative humidity of 11 percent. Such conditions are
very unlikely at the surface before the onset of precipitation. The
highest possible surface air temperature that can have a wet bulb
temperature of zero is around 10 degrees celsius. However snow can fall at
even higher temperatures than this if the flakes are swept rapidly
earthward by the cold, relatively dry downdraft of a thunderstorm.
Lindsay's note: Such a phenomenon was observed at Blackheath (altitude =
1086 metres) on the 7th and 8th of October 1998. The air temperature was
measured at around four degrees celsius and it was snowing/snow pelleting.
The air was quite dry and quite strong down drafts were pushing the snow
earthward. At one stage it was closer to six degrees and snow briefly fell
at this time during a strong down draft. However, it must be noted that
the air temperature can fluctuate quickly and such a variation may not
have been observed on my basic, domestic thermometer. The temperature may
have in fact dropped below six for a short period but not have been
registered as such.
(NB: Snow pellets are recognised as that transition between snow and sleet
and are typically opaque and around 2-5mm in size and bounce when hitting
hard surfaces. Sleet is similar in size and shape but is typically
transparent or translucent. Snow grains (sometimes confused with sleet in
Australia) are much smaller, typically about one millimetre or less and
are soft, clear bits of ice that crumble and break when hitting hard
surfaces.)
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: ASWA Meeting breaks for wx!
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:27:10 +1000
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Hi All,
The QLD ASWA meeting has broken up to go and chase. We have TCu's popping
up all over the place, the BoM has just issued a Severe Thunderstorm
advice, and the lightning tracker is showing some good activity out west.
Half our luck!
John.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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Patrick
I also sent off an email enquiring about this. So I have no reply. Let's
hope they are able to reinstate the service as it is one of the best model
displays on the web
Mark
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>From: "Patrick Tobin"
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
>Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:35 AM
>
> Hi all,
>
> Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
> wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
> intentions are regarding the availability of the
> Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>
> The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
> following status message:
>
> FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
> Map DTG: 1999043012
> WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>
> The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
> provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
> presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
> but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
> ie our upstream areas.
>
> Patrick
>
> By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
> of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 12:47:20 +0800
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From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]
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I did the same, I recommend everyone to send an email to them and nicely
complain about it, as Mark said they do have the best models displays around
Jacob
At 02:36 1/05/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Patrick
>I also sent off an email enquiring about this. So I have no reply. Let's
>hope they are able to reinstate the service as it is one of the best model
>displays on the web
>Mark
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>>From: "Patrick Tobin"
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
>>Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:35 AM
>>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
>> wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
>> intentions are regarding the availability of the
>> Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>>
>> The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
>> following status message:
>>
>> FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
>> Map DTG: 1999043012
>> WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>>
>> The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
>> provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
>> presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
>> but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
>> ie our upstream areas.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
>> of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 05:11:49 GMT
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I emailed the webmaster Friday afternoon, but have not had a reply
yet. I'll let the list know if I do.
Laurier
On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:35:38 PDT, "Patrick Tobin"
wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
>wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
>intentions are regarding the availability of the
>Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>
>The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
>following status message:
>
>FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
>Map DTG: 1999043012
>WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>
>The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
>provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
>presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
>but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
>ie our upstream areas.
>
>Patrick
>
>By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
>of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:11:15 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
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I am in the process of writing an e-mail myself.
Jimmy Deguara
At 05:11 1/05/99 +0000, you wrote:
>I emailed the webmaster Friday afternoon, but have not had a reply
>yet. I'll let the list know if I do.
>
>Laurier
>
>On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:35:38 PDT, "Patrick Tobin"
> wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
>>wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
>>intentions are regarding the availability of the
>>Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>>
>>The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
>>following status message:
>>
>>FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
>>Map DTG: 1999043012
>>WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>>
>>The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
>>provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
>>presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
>>but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
>>ie our upstream areas.
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
>>of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>>
>>
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:20:55 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Can anyone tell me the address of these? I didn't receive Michael's
message and when I went to the old one last night I was asked for a
password...!
Patrick Tobin wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
> wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
> intentions are regarding the availability of the
> Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>
> The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
> following status message:
>
> FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
> Map DTG: 1999043012
> WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>
> The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
> provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
> presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
> but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
> ie our upstream areas.
>
> Patrick
>
> By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
> of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 15:33:30 +1000
From: Ross Portas [rportas at mindless.com]
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hi everyone,
the guys are chasing around gatton at the moment, with a nice cell
showing plenty of pink on the local bris radar. unfortunately i have to
leave for work at 4pm, so if anyone can keep an eye out on the radar and
lightning tracker, can you let anthony know on his mobile, 0417 759 304
if anything interesting happens.
ta,
rosco
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: CLOUDSAT TO REVOLUTIONIZE STUDY OF CLOUDS AND CLIMATE
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:10:34 +1000
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Received this from the NASA press release mailing list. Thought it maybe of
interest:
>CLOUDSAT TO REVOLUTIONIZE STUDY OF CLOUDS AND CLIMATE
>
> NASA will take a revolutionary, global look at clouds with a
>new spaceborne radar capable of peering deep into their interior
>to study their structure, composition and effects on climate.
>
> Cloudsat, which will fly in 2003, will use an advanced radar
>to "slice" through clouds to see their vertical structure,
>providing a completely new observational capability from space --
>current weather satellites can only image the uppermost layers of
>clouds. Cloudsat will be the first satellite to study clouds on a
>global basis.
>
> "A trio of satellites will provide unprecedented information
>on how clouds help transfer solar energy to and from our planet's
>atmosphere," said Dr. Ghassem Asrar, Associate Administrator for
>Earth Sciences, NASA Headquarters, Washington, DC. "The data from
>Cloudsat will help us understand changes in the Earth's climate on
>global, regional and local scales. An important contribution of
>Cloudsat is the way it will fly in formation with the Earth
>Observing System-PM and the PICASSO-CENA satellites."
>
> PICASSO-CENA, a cooperative mission between NASA and France,
>will study the role of transparent, thin clouds and aerosols,
>small atmospheric particles, and their effect on solar-energy
>transfer.
>
> The Cloud Profiling Radar of Cloudsat will study the three-
>dimensional structure of most clouds important to weather and
>climate. This capability complements an instrument aboard
>PICASSO-CENA, which will observe the vertical structure of thin
>clouds and aerosols. These two missions will provide critically
>needed satellite measurements that will help researchers
>understand how the Earth's solar energy and climate interact on a
>global scale.
>
> Cloudsat data also will complement the Earth Observing
>System-PM satellite, which will collect data on the dynamics of
>Earth's atmosphere, and the Triana mission, both to be launched in
>2000.
>
> Dr. Graeme Stephens of Colorado State University, Ft.
>Collins, CO, will be principal investigator of the Cloudsat
>mission. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA, will
>manage the international mission, which will include participation
>from the United States, Canada, Germany and Japan.
>
> The estimated cost of the Cloudsat mission is $135 million.
>NASA's contribution will be approximately $111 million, with
>additional funding provided by the Canadian Space Agency, the U.S.
>Department of Energy and the U.S. Air Force. The Canadian Space
>Agency also is developing key radar components and contributing
>scientific expertise. Ball Aerospace, Boulder, CO, will build the
>Cloudsat spacecraft.
>
> The Cloudsat mission continues the strong commitment to Earth
>Systems Science undertaken by NASA's Office of Earth Science,
>which oversees a long-term, coordinated research enterprise
>designed to study the Earth as a global environmental system.
>
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>Can anyone tell me the address of these? I didn't receive Michael's
>message and when I went to the old one last night I was asked for a
>password...!
>
Keith,
The FNMOC models that are available are at:
http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.html
The NPMOC images are satellite images and are at the following
addresses:
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/satimages/gmsd.jpg
for eastern Aust,
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/satimages/gmsc.jpg
for western Aust and
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/satimages/gmsfull.jpg
for a full hemisheral image.
The NPMOC satellite images are the new addresses
following a recent change.
I have also sent the Webmaster at FNMOC a "nice" email
requesting the reinstatement of the Aust/NZ model output.
Patrick
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Subject: aus-wx: Australian article - Met careers
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For those who may not have seen today's Australia (1/5/99),
there is an interesting article on the front page of the
Recruitment section which covers weather forecasting as
a career option.
There is some interesting discussion about the recent Sydney
hailstorm and a comment to the effect that, notwithstanding the
advance in modelling and technology, the fallibility of
forecasting is all too obvious to NSW BOM staff whose current
view from their offices is the patchwork quilt of numerous tarps
covering the thousands of rooves damaged by the storm.
Patrick
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 18:03:57 +1000
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Does anyone know why these haven't been updated?
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: FNMOC Models??
Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:19:50 GMT
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All is not quite lost, folks. If you go to
http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.htm and select Tropical SW
Pacific, you'll get most of Australia (sorry Perth!) and most of the
variables available on the "old" charts. The 850/200hPa wind sheer
available in the first panel makes an interesting variation on normal
jet stream depictions.
I have two addresses for the FNMOC main map index which, curiously,
give slightly different results. Last night
http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.html was, as Keith said,
wanting an id and password; today it's accessible, but is missing the
Aust/NZ panels. On the other hand,
http://152.80.56.202/wxmap/web/index.html was accessible last night
and today, and it is missing Aust/NZ, Trop SW Pacific and SW Asia.
The latter address is the one you get if you go into the top level of
the URL and select the "Public -- No Password" button rather than the
"DoD -- Password Required" button.
Cheers
Laurier
On Sat, 01 May 1999 15:20:55 +1000, Keith Barnett
wrote:
>Can anyone tell me the address of these? I didn't receive Michael's
>message and when I went to the old one last night I was asked for a
>password...!
>
>Patrick Tobin wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
>> wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
>> intentions are regarding the availability of the
>> Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>>
>> The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
>> following status message:
>>
>> FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
>> Map DTG: 1999043012
>> WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>>
>> The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
>> provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
>> presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
>> but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
>> ie our upstream areas.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
>> of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>>
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Yes Laurier that is what I have been doing. Things are either going on
"suspiciously" with things disappearing or this is just coincidence.
Jimmy Deguara
At 09:19 1/05/99 +0000, you wrote:
>All is not quite lost, folks. If you go to
>http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.htm and select Tropical SW
>Pacific, you'll get most of Australia (sorry Perth!) and most of the
>variables available on the "old" charts. The 850/200hPa wind sheer
>available in the first panel makes an interesting variation on normal
>jet stream depictions.
>
>I have two addresses for the FNMOC main map index which, curiously,
>give slightly different results. Last night
>http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.html was, as Keith said,
>wanting an id and password; today it's accessible, but is missing the
>Aust/NZ panels. On the other hand,
>http://152.80.56.202/wxmap/web/index.html was accessible last night
>and today, and it is missing Aust/NZ, Trop SW Pacific and SW Asia.
>
>The latter address is the one you get if you go into the top level of
>the URL and select the "Public -- No Password" button rather than the
>"DoD -- Password Required" button.
>
>Cheers
>
>Laurier
>
>On Sat, 01 May 1999 15:20:55 +1000, Keith Barnett
> wrote:
>
>>Can anyone tell me the address of these? I didn't receive Michael's
>>message and when I went to the old one last night I was asked for a
>>password...!
>>
>>Patrick Tobin wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Before sending off my own curious email to FNMOC, I was
>>> wondering if anyone on the list was aware of what their
>>> intentions are regarding the availability of the
>>> Australian/New Zealand NOGAPS and AVN models?
>>>
>>> The Australia/NZ map is no longer there and there is the
>>> following status message:
>>>
>>> FNMOC NWP Weather Maps
>>> Map DTG: 1999043012
>>> WXMAP Status/Updates: 4/29 Suspended AusNZ area
>>>
>>> The Tropical SW Pacific map is still available and
>>> provides model output for eastern Aust (continuing the
>>> presence of the anticyclonic conditions for another week)
>>> but nothing for SW Australia/eastern Indian Ocean
>>> ie our upstream areas.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> By the way thank you to Michael Scollay for advising us
>>> of the new address for the NPMOC satellite images.
>>>
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:27:25 GMT
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On Sat, 01 May 1999 18:03:57 +1000, Keith Barnett
wrote:
>Does anyone know why these haven't been updated?
Keith, they're working for me as at 19.25EST. I presume you mean the
GASP 48 and 72 hr panels on the Bureau Gopher. The ones there now
carry a 07 UTC time stamp, and they were available about an hour ago
on the subscription service.
Laurier Williams
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At 09:19 1/05/99 GMT, you wrote:
>All is not quite lost, folks. If you go to
>http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.htm and select Tropical SW
>Pacific, you'll get most of Australia (sorry Perth!) and most of the
>variables available on the "old" charts. The 850/200hPa wind sheer
>available in the first panel makes an interesting variation on normal
>jet stream depictions.
Yeah, its unfortunate that we have to miss out in Perth just before our
severe storm season starts, as the tropical SW pacific maps doesn't help us
much here in the west, we had a similar problem last year, when another
site closed down in May last year which had the NGP models, then FNMOC took
it back up later in the year.
Jacob
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:30:59 GMT
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On Sat, 01 May 1999 19:20:16 +1000, Jimmy Deguara
wrote:
>Yes Laurier that is what I have been doing. Things are either going on
>"suspiciously" with things disappearing or this is just coincidence.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
I just checked the "public" site main menu, and I think the satpix
officially available have shrunk in both number and quality -- only
continental US, Atlantic and NE Pacific available, and then only very
inferior orbiting satpix. It'll be a great shame if the sector C and
D satpix go. I'm d/l them hourly (automatically) and there have been
several misses over the past 24 hours, suggesting the site has been
off-air. We'll just have to wait and see.
Laurier Williams
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 09:33:28 GMT
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On Sat, 01 May 1999 17:25:55 +0800, Jacob wrote:
>At 09:19 1/05/99 GMT, you wrote:
>>All is not quite lost, folks. If you go to
>>http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/index.htm and select Tropical SW
>>Pacific, you'll get most of Australia (sorry Perth!) and most of the
>>variables available on the "old" charts. The 850/200hPa wind sheer
>>available in the first panel makes an interesting variation on normal
>>jet stream depictions.
>
>Yeah, its unfortunate that we have to miss out in Perth just before our
>severe storm season starts, as the tropical SW pacific maps doesn't help us
>much here in the west, we had a similar problem last year, when another
>site closed down in May last year which had the NGP models, then FNMOC took
>it back up later in the year.
>
That original site was developed by Mike Fiorino, who developed the
whole system FNMOC is using now. Mike went to ECMWF on a two year
secondment from PCMDI, saying he'd resume the service when he got back
to the States.
Laurier Williams
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Notes from the ASWA meeting - Victoria
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 20:28:30 +1000
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Notes from the ASWA meeting
Held at The Pancake Parlour, Doncaster - 1st May 1999
Present: Rod Aikman, Greg Browning, Chris Gribben, Clyve Herbert, Andrew
McDonald, Dane Newman, Jane ONeill, Nick Sykes, Blair Trewin, Paul Yole
Apologies: Debbie Parker, Kevin Phyland, Lindsay Smail, Brian Weldon
Business
* Membership issued to:
Rod Aikman, Greg Browning, Chris Gribben, Clyve Herbert, Andrew McDonald,
Dane Newman, Jane ONeill, Lindsay Smail, Nick Sykes, Blair Trewin, Paul
Yole.
* Shirts
Both T-shirts and polo necks were popular - consensus was that either one of
each type, or 2 T shirts each would be preferred.
Logo - left breast and back were both popular
* Group voted to have as a guest speaker at the 7th August meeting - Ray
Kollmorgen from Severe Wx, BoM
* Information and observations from ASWA members to the BoM.
- list of Victorian ASWA members and contact details to be sent to Ray
Kollmorgen at BoM Severe wx.
- 'spotters wish list' circulated to the group for discussion
- Andrew McDonald to cross-check this list with the ASWA report form and the
BoM storm report form to ensure that all information the BoM would like is
included in our reports.
- Blair Trewin suggested that reports of hail, sleet, snow also be phoned in
to the BoM (1800 811 023) during the autumn / winter / spring months as
visual reports of these from ASWA members would be greatly appreciated by
the Bureau. It was suggested that a Melways / Victorian Country Directory
map reference with the report would also be useful.
* Website
- group shot on front page to be hyperlinked to a page with head shots of
each member who attended today's meeting. Vic members, please post a head
shot of yourself to Jane ONeill, PO Box 94, Abbotsford 3067 (when you send
your membership in)
- rewriting of reports discussed
- reports to be completed in the next week or so
- visitors to website can now be identified
* End of year chase
Much enthusiastic discussion ensued.
The group then moved to Greensborough to watch videos at Andrew McDonald's
house. Many thanks to the McDonald family for a great lunch and tremendous
hospitality.
Next meeting 5th June, 1999 at The Pancake Parlour, Doncaster
Jane ONeill
Clyve Herbert
ASWA - Victoria
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 22:09:22 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi all,
Just a quick email to say we encountered some very nice t'storms
(especially for May!!) we had some hail (yes Jimmy!!) only pea-marble
size (sorry Jimmy!) but there were hail drifts on the side of the road
(woohoo Jimmy!) and there certainly no lack of it in certain areas.
However, it was very localised...several other highlights/exciting
'things' - report + pics will be out soon hopefully.
Anthony Cornelius
Ross Portas wrote:
>
> hi everyone,
>
> the guys are chasing around gatton at the moment, with a nice cell
> showing plenty of pink on the local bris radar. unfortunately i have to
> leave for work at 4pm, so if anyone can keep an eye out on the radar and
> lightning tracker, can you let anthony know on his mobile, 0417 759 304
> if anything interesting happens.
>
> ta,
> rosco
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Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:44:42 +0800
From: Rebekah Hoare [rebekah at tnet.com.au]
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Hi all,
well I finally got around to getting on the list, yippeeeee.
I have always been interested in all aspects of severe weather, but
never really learned much about it, then there was chop!!!!
now that I have been introduced to all this info I am obsessed, and
can't wait to go and experience my first chase :)
I can't wait to learn more from you all :)
Rebekah.
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: finally
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 23:49:15 +1000
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Welcome - Rebekah - the numbers of women are finally starting to sneak
upward!
Good to see some balance .
Hope you enjoy the list as much as we do.
Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne
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>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Rebekah Hoare
>Sent: Saturday, 1 May 1999 10:45
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: finally
>
>
>Hi all,
>well I finally got around to getting on the list, yippeeeee.
>I have always been interested in all aspects of severe weather, but
>never really learned much about it, then there was chop!!!!
>now that I have been introduced to all this info I am obsessed, and
>can't wait to go and experience my first chase :)
>I can't wait to learn more from you all :)
>Rebekah.
>
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