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001 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] finally
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] Radar?
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] Radar?
004 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au] Giles Thunderstorms
005 "Keith" [kevans at kisser.net.au] April WX stats for Karratha
006 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Radar?
007 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Notes from the ASWA meeting - Victoria
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] finally
009 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Movies night...for Sydney fanatics
010 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] Giles Thunderstorms
011 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Dates for early- and late-season snow
012 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Giles Radar
013 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Dates for early- and late-season snow
014 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au] Giles Thunderstorms
015 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] MSC page update
016 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] GASP charts
017 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Seven Hills weather this last week
018 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Giles Thunderstorms
019 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Radar?
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
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Welcome aboard Rebekah, from sunny Adelaide, South Australia
At 20:44 5/1/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>well I finally got around to getting on the list, yippeeeee.
>I have always been interested in all aspects of severe weather, but
>never really learned much about it, then there was chop!!!!
>now that I have been introduced to all this info I am obsessed, and
>can't wait to go and experience my first chase :)
>I can't wait to learn more from you all :)
>Rebekah.
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:09:25 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Michael,
Sorry to be a pain, but I was wondering do you have radar for
yesterday? All broad times during yesterday upto 8pm, and all local
from midday until 8pm? Or - I understand Michael Scollay has an
archive? Is it possible for me to access this?
I've only seen a handful of loops...some local, some broad...but the
main cell we chased was suspicious (possible rotation, very difficult to
tell) but it's possible that the cell to the N split off away from the
others, and if it did, then that would be very interesting.
Thanks,
Anthony
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:38:53 +1000
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Ok well...pick the dope...sent this to the wrong addy....
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Sorry to be a pain, but I was wondering do you have radar for
> yesterday? All broad times during yesterday upto 8pm, and all local
> from midday until 8pm? Or - I understand Michael Scollay has an
> archive? Is it possible for me to access this?
>
> I've only seen a handful of loops...some local, some broad...but the
> main cell we chased was suspicious (possible rotation, very difficult to
> tell) but it's possible that the cell to the N split off away from the
> others, and if it did, then that would be very interesting.
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 10:14:16 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Hi every1
just stumbled across an image on the Bureaus site that I thought would interest
people.
http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/9812130730IDR443.gif
I showed ppl in IRC at the time and a few of them made comment about the
possibiliy of tornadoes in these storms, anyone care to comment on that??
regards
Greg from Perth
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From: "Keith" [kevans at kisser.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: April WX stats for Karratha
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:27:17 +0800
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Anyone that's interested in the weather stats for this month in Karratha.... They are available on the following URL....
http://www.kisser.net.au/kevans/weather/april99stats.htm
3 days are missing due to a malfunction in data archives
Keith & Jason
Karratha Weather Home URL www.kisser.net.au/kevans/weather
E-Mail kevans at kisser.net.au
ICQ 746952 & 6187498
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:15:03 +1000
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Sorry Anthony, I hardly ever keep radar as my ISP is limited to 150 hours
per month.
The chase sounds interesting, I will read the messages regarding it ASAP.
Michael
> Hi Michael,
>
> Sorry to be a pain, but I was wondering do you have radar for
> yesterday? All broad times during yesterday upto 8pm, and all local
> from midday until 8pm? Or - I understand Michael Scollay has an
> archive? Is it possible for me to access this?
>
> I've only seen a handful of loops...some local, some broad...but the
> main cell we chased was suspicious (possible rotation, very difficult to
> tell) but it's possible that the cell to the N split off away from the
> others, and if it did, then that would be very interesting.
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Notes from the ASWA meeting - Victoria
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:24:35 +1000
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It sounds like you Victorian guys are on top of it, great ideas like a guest
speaker from the BOM. It may be a way of breaking the ice for the NSW guys
too, although the hailstorm stuff may have to fade a bit first. I am sure
they are busy putting together a enquiry report.
I think we should perhaps send each other copies of our homegrown videos , I
will send Cllyve a copy of my stuff ( pretty tame ), it just may take time.
Michael
> Notes from the ASWA meeting
> Held at The Pancake Parlour, Doncaster - 1st May 1999
>
> Present: Rod Aikman, Greg Browning, Chris Gribben, Clyve Herbert, Andrew
> McDonald, Dane Newman, Jane ONeill, Nick Sykes, Blair Trewin, Paul Yole
>
> Apologies: Debbie Parker, Kevin Phyland, Lindsay Smail, Brian Weldon
>
> Business
>
> * Membership issued to:
> Rod Aikman, Greg Browning, Chris Gribben, Clyve Herbert, Andrew McDonald,
> Dane Newman, Jane ONeill, Lindsay Smail, Nick Sykes, Blair Trewin, Paul
> Yole.
>
> * Shirts
> Both T-shirts and polo necks were popular - consensus was that either one
of
> each type, or 2 T shirts each would be preferred.
> Logo - left breast and back were both popular
>
> * Group voted to have as a guest speaker at the 7th August meeting - Ray
> Kollmorgen from Severe Wx, BoM
>
> * Information and observations from ASWA members to the BoM.
> - list of Victorian ASWA members and contact details to be sent to Ray
> Kollmorgen at BoM Severe wx.
> - 'spotters wish list' circulated to the group for discussion
> - Andrew McDonald to cross-check this list with the ASWA report form and
the
> BoM storm report form to ensure that all information the BoM would like is
> included in our reports.
> - Blair Trewin suggested that reports of hail, sleet, snow also be phoned
in
> to the BoM (1800 811 023) during the autumn / winter / spring months as
> visual reports of these from ASWA members would be greatly appreciated by
> the Bureau. It was suggested that a Melways / Victorian Country Directory
> map reference with the report would also be useful.
>
> * Website
> - group shot on front page to be hyperlinked to a page with head shots of
> each member who attended today's meeting. Vic members, please post a head
> shot of yourself to Jane ONeill, PO Box 94, Abbotsford 3067 (when you
send
> your membership in)
> - rewriting of reports discussed
> - reports to be completed in the next week or so
> - visitors to website can now be identified
>
> * End of year chase
> Much enthusiastic discussion ensued.
>
> The group then moved to Greensborough to watch videos at Andrew McDonald's
> house. Many thanks to the McDonald family for a great lunch and
tremendous
> hospitality.
>
> Next meeting 5th June, 1999 at The Pancake Parlour, Doncaster
>
> Jane ONeill
> Clyve Herbert
> ASWA - Victoria
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 07:37:54 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Good to have you aboard Rebekah, :-)
Lindsay
Rebekah Hoare wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> well I finally got around to getting on the list, yippeeeee.
> I have always been interested in all aspects of severe weather, but
> never really learned much about it, then there was chop!!!!
> now that I have been introduced to all this info I am obsessed, and
> can't wait to go and experience my first chase :)
> I can't wait to learn more from you all :)
> Rebekah.
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Movies night...for Sydney fanatics
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Michael and I and others if they wish are going to watch "The Craic"
tonight at 7:15pm at Parramatta Westfield. We are going to get there 6pm,
have something to eat at the food court. IF you wish to come along, you can
call me on 96271943 or Michael's Mobile later on after 5pm onwards
0412145710. Come along have a talk and a laugh. There is a lot to discuss
from my point of view which really has a lot to do with Sydney members.
See you all there.
By the way, welcome aboard to all of the newbies. Everyone is invited to
come along to these social gatherings if you can make it.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 13:39:46 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Greg,
Exactly what did the BoM say about this image? This image to me looks
like a classic radar overestimation. Many of the regional radars badly
overestimate, but I'm not sure exactly what causes it. Unless CAPE's
were 8000+, I don't think I can believe this image...
Anthony
Greg Spencer wrote:
>
> Hi every1
>
> just stumbled across an image on the Bureaus site that I thought would interest
> people.
>
> http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/9812130730IDR443.gif
>
> I showed ppl in IRC at the time and a few of them made comment about the
> possibiliy of tornadoes in these storms, anyone care to comment on that??
>
> regards
>
> Greg from Perth
>
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dates for early- and late-season snow
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:24:48 +1200
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> Canberra
>
> Earliest 15 April 1940
> Latest 3 November 1949 (also 27 October 1998)
Didn't snow fall very close to Canberra on 22 November 1996?. I have a
photocopied Sydney newspaper article which mentions snow on the outskirts
of the city, and at a place called Gundaroo (with a photo showing snow on
the ground there) which seems to be at a similar altitude to Canberra, and
not far to the north.
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Subject: aus-wx: Giles Radar
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:34:17 +1000
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Hi All,
Great meeting yesterday for the Vics. Good to see everyone (most) of us
there.
In reference to the Giles radar image - i think when this event occurred
someone may've mentioned dust being the cause of such imagery. It could be
worthwhile looking into the lower level winds for the day to see if they
would cause dust storms. Keep us posted on what comes of this becuase I'm
sure there are plenty of curious minds out there (here).
Thanks
Andrew McDonald.
P.S. Bring on the spring. This autumn weather is giving me the S%^T's.
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I remember this event - I was in Sydney at the time trying
to promote Canberra to O/S backpackers and all I got was
"isn't it snowing there at the moment?".
The day in question was pretty cold and wet in Sydney with a
top of around 12 I think which went pretty close to a record
for November.
Although I wasn't in Canberra, I remember the media coverage
and the snow in Gundaroo (which may be around 100m higher than
Canberra and about 40km to the north) and reports of flakes
around the outer suburbs which again are around 100-150m higher
than the Canberra station.
Presumably Blair's dates are official observations at the airport
as opposed to observed weather in some of the outlying suburbs over
20km from the airport.
Patrick
>
> > Canberra
> >
> > Earliest 15 April 1940
> > Latest 3 November 1949 (also 27 October 1998)
>
> Didn't snow fall very close to Canberra on 22 November 1996?. I have a
>photocopied Sydney newspaper article which mentions snow on the outskirts
>of the city, and at a place called Gundaroo (with a photo showing snow on
>the ground there) which seems to be at a similar altitude to Canberra, and
>not far to the north.
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 16:11:49 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Anthony,
There wasnt reawlly much info about the image. I found it on a site explaining what
the radar is and how it works. They talked about thunderstorms and what to look for
on the radar for thunderstorms and below had the link to that image. Think I will
have to find out some more info on this. Someone else on the list mentioned the
possibility of it being dust storms (any other ideas??)
I'll find out what I can
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Exactly what did the BoM say about this image? This image to me looks
> like a classic radar overestimation. Many of the regional radars badly
> overestimate, but I'm not sure exactly what causes it. Unless CAPE's
> were 8000+, I don't think I can believe this image...
>
> Anthony
>
> Greg Spencer wrote:
> >
> > Hi every1
> >
> > just stumbled across an image on the Bureaus site that I thought would interest
> > people.
> >
> > http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/by_prod/radar/9812130730IDR443.gif
> >
> > I showed ppl in IRC at the time and a few of them made comment about the
> > possibiliy of tornadoes in these storms, anyone care to comment on that??
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Greg from Perth
> >
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: MSC page update
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:32:24 +1000
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Go to http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence to see who even more of the Victorian
members are - and in a fit of insanity I've added a mug shot page - to get
to it, click on the group photo.
Apologies for my sense of humour - I threw in a couple extra BTW, I'm
not advertising this link to the world only to list members!!
Jane
Bayswater, Melbourne
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 18:39:46 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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No I mean the coloured ones that have the rainfall rate in blue shading
and the thickness in colour coding overlaying the surface charts out to
a period of 7 days.
Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> On Sat, 01 May 1999 18:03:57 +1000, Keith Barnett
> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know why these haven't been updated?
>
> Keith, they're working for me as at 19.25EST. I presume you mean the
> GASP 48 and 72 hr panels on the Bureau Gopher. The ones there now
> carry a 07 UTC time stamp, and they were available about an hour ago
> on the subscription service.
>
> Laurier Williams
> Australian Weather Links and News
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Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 19:29:37 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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as per attached
I tried sending this with a monthly summary in one message and it seems
to have got lost so my apologies if you get this twice...weeklysummaries
Summary of weather observations for Seven Hills--week ended Saturday 30th April, 1999
Observation Reading Date of extreme
Average maximum 20.6
Average minimum 10.9
Average terrestrial minimum 7.0
Highest maximum 23.0 26
Lowest maximum 18.2 28
Highest minimum 13.0 29
Lowest minimum 7.6 27
Highest terrestrial minimum 11.2 29
Lowest terrestrial minimum 2.0 27
Total rainfall 17.6
Rain days 4
Highest daily rainfall 11.0 28
Total evaporation 25.1
Total wind run 2105.6
Highest wind run 560.2 29
Lowest barometer 1006.0 28
Highest barometer 1022.0 30
Thunder 1
Lightning 1
Hail 1
Frost 0
Fog 0
Byram Keetch drought index as at 30/4/1999 57.1
Last Updated on 1/05/99
By Keith Barnett
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Giles Thunderstorms
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:48:27 GMT
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On Sun, 02 May 1999 16:11:49 +0800, Greg Spencer
wrote:
>Anthony,
>
>There wasnt reawlly much info about the image. I found it on a site explaining what
>the radar is and how it works. They talked about thunderstorms and what to look for
>on the radar for thunderstorms and below had the link to that image. Think I will
>have to find out some more info on this. Someone else on the list mentioned the
>possibility of it being dust storms (any other ideas??)
>
>I'll find out what I can
>
Greg and Anthony,
I think it might have been me that suggested dust storms. I noticed
this image, or one very close in time to it, at the time. A check of
satpix revealed thunderstorms in the area, but as I remember, cloud
top temps didn't look low enough to be associated with such dense
echoes. Also the large area of max reflectivity, the rapid drop off
and the number of similar "cells" made me recall big dust storms I've
experienced in Central Australia. I'll dig out my archived satpix for
the time together with any obs data and see what it shows.
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Radar?
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 09:53:09 GMT
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On Sun, 02 May 1999 09:09:25 +1000, Anthony Cornelius
wrote:
>Hi Michael,
>
>Sorry to be a pain, but I was wondering do you have radar for
>yesterday? All broad times during yesterday upto 8pm, and all local
>from midday until 8pm?Hi Anthony
Anthony, If you haven't got these yet, I archive Moree radar and,
although the action you want is right on the limit of the image, it'd
be better than nothing. Email me.
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