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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Saturday, 15 May 1999

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001 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Southern circumpolar wave
002 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]          Wet Adelaide
003 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]              Detailed Report on Sydney Hailstorm..
004 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Caddo County Oklahoma Tornado
005 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             (no subject)
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: Current Weather in The Blue Mountains
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      May i have some help
008 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      QLD Financial Members
009 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]          Anemometer blues
010 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]    Strahan Observations
011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]      QLD Financial Members
012 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Anemometer blues
013 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               May i have some help
014 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
015 Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]                  Melbourne-Hail and Thunder
016 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
017 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Dumping at Bluecow!!
018 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        May i have some help
019 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        ASWA Inc photo competition.
020 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
021 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
022 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    May i have some help
023 "bernette hudson" [bernette at primus.com.au]     May i have some help
024 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
025 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au]        Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
026 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
027 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
028 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
029 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
030 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Cold in Sydney too
031 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Seven Hills weather data this week
032 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Seven Hills weather data...?
033 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Upper Blue Mountains = Chilly...
034 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Re: Snow 
035 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne Vantage Points
036 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne Cold Outbreak
037 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               Fw: DISCOVERY LAUNCH POSTPONED TO REPAIR FUEL TANK HAIL DAMA
038 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           The List returns.....
039 "Rod Aikman" [raikman at hotmail.com]             Victorian cold outbreak
040 Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]                  Coldest Melbourne May day for 22years

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:59:05 +1000
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern circumpolar wave
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Very interesting Mark, shame there isnt more info on ACPW.. guess that will
start to change now!

Matt Smith

>Hi All
>
>After much hunting around and with assistance of others on this list this
>seems to be the scoop on the Southern circumpolar wave - AKA the Antarctic
>circumpolar wave.
>
>The Antarctic circumpolar wave is an ocean current consisting of four large
>eddies of water which circle the antarctic in a clockwise manner. The
>eddies, 2 warm and 2 cold circle the antarctic every 8 or 9 years. It is
>believed that these pools induce above and below average rainfalls as they
>circle the globe. It's not clear as to what causes the ACPW although it
>could be caused by the bi-annual variation in wind patterns. It may also be
>induced by 2 of the more prominent peninsulas on the antarctic continent.
>These peninsulas deflect the ocean currents setting up the wave pattern -
>well that's the theory.
>
>As these pools of warm and cool water pass to the south of Australia it is
>thought they may affect rainfall patterns with the warmer water promoting
>moister airstreams. The temperature difference in these eddies is small at
>only about 1 degree C, so detecting the effects in isolation will be
>difficult. Rainfall in Australia is already known to be highly dependent on
>both ENSO and Indian Ocean ocean temperatures. The ACPW is a new discovery
>and it will take many years of research to determine the significance of
>it's contribution to our climate.
>
>Cheers, Mark
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>>From: Michael Scollay 
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern circumpolar wave
>>Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:53 AM
>>
>
>> John Woodbridge wrote at Fri, 14 May 1999 11:22:11 +1000:
>> [snip]
>>> My thoughts are that the position of large standing waves
>>> which move only slowly, may play a large part in determining
>>> the average movement of surface lows and whether they move
>>> NE into SE Aust or slip away to the SE, and thus perhaps
>>> explain why some winters are milder than others.
>>
>> It's interesting that its greatest effect in the mid
>> latitudes is during the winter. As stated, a most complex
>> phenomena. I would postulate that wave-like patterns will
>> also be found at lower latitudes throughout the year but
>> they are more difficult to observe, analyse or study.
>>
>> As per the tendency for milder winters than others, cast
>> back to winter, 1998 where frontal activity came in bursts
>> to the SE of Australia at about 2 to 3 week intervals then
>> died during September, then was reborn in October.
>>
>> Going back to archived satpic animations of that time, the
>> evolving wave, made visible by the evolution of underlying
>> weather systems can be clearly seen. However, it is way
>> beyond me to even guess at it's future evolution. I remain
>> fascinated and convinced that this is but one manifestation
>> of nature that may be modeled using chaos theory applied
>> in a fractal geometry context...More crap I expect:-)
>>
>> Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
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Hi all,

Well it finally happened Adelaide has had a great amount of rain (not sure
on exact totals yet because it's still raining). It has been raining on and
off all day and boy did the gardens need it. Hopefully we will get the
totals by tomorrow, and hopefully we will get a little more. 

At 1:20pm while driving home from work I experienced light drizzle and fog
which covered most of the northern suburbs near Parafield Airport. This was
very hazardous as the roads were very slippery and there are many road
works in the area. This drizzle didnt last long but it cleaned the car of
mud :)

Further on into the day the rain got a little heavier turning into a light
shower, which lasted well onto this email. I received a report of very
heavy rain in the South of Adelaide near McLaren Vale and Victor Harbour,
which is good for them, but we didnt see any of it as the rain band moved
off to the east and we near Parafield only received the top end of this band. 

Oh well hope all get some good rains and or storms see you later.....


Andrew Wall
(08) 82854590

S.A. / N.T. Co-ordinator.
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ASWA Inc. Webpage   - http://severeweather.asn.au

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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:55:55 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Hi Michael

Well said,

I have a very limitted knowledge on meteorology in general and even I know how
to look at a storm on radar and tell where its going   :-)

Greg

Michael Thompson wrote:

> Interesting reading from the BOM Sydney Hailstorm report.
>
> "A continuation and acceleration of the Bureau's program to update training
> of meteorologists in the use of radar for severe thunderstorm diagnosis and
> forecasting. "
>
> Perhaps they should see the AWSA members, most of whom seem to have this
> covered.
>
> Michael
>
> > Have a look at:
> >
> http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/storms/sydney_hail/hail_report.
> shtml
> >
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:00:52 -0500
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
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Subject: aus-wx: Caddo County Oklahoma Tornado
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I've added images from slides of the Caddo County, Oklahoma
tornado at:

http://www.k5kj.net/990503.htm

Sam Barricklow

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
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Re: aus-wx: May i have some help Kelly
Perhaps you could try Weathernews. They are a private weather forecasting company based in Box Hill. Their number is 03 9899 3140.
Mark
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hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather related but i was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria which will do work experience in the weather area except for the Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have tried there.  If you know of a place to go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks heaps
                                                             >From Kelly
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:01:42 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather in The Blue Mountains
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Cool, not cold here in the mountains, about 8 degrees at 8 am. Very
windy, can't give you an exact wind reading but the gusts are very
strong. Dunno, gusts might be 80 k's or more. It's definately stronger
than "Fresh".

Feels a lot colder than 8 because of the wind.

Lindsay Pearce
PS: maybe this front will give us more blast than expected.

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:48:27 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Kelly,

Did the BoM refuse all together, or is it just in the wrong time frame?
I did work experience at the Brisbane BoM, and I assumed that all BoM
offices (especially Melbourne's) would have work experience available -
however, I do know that there are restricted times.  If you're keen, why
don't you opt to do it in your holidays?  The time I wanted to do work
experience with the BoM (with school) was not available, so I asked if I
could do it in my holidays - and that was fine with my school, and again
- I'd say any school would most probably allow this.

Anthony

PS - It was great fun!

> bernette hudson wrote:
> 
> hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather
> related but i was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria
> which will do work experience in the weather area except for the
> Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have tried there.  If you know of a place to
> go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks heaps
>                                                              >From
> Kelly
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:50:57 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi Michael,

The follow members have all paid their membership, I deposited the money
on Thursday ($210 - $180 cash, $30 money order)

James Chambers
Ross Portas
Greg Curtis
Steve Baynham
John Woodbridge
Joanne Walker
myself (Anthony Cornelius)

Regards,
Anthony Cornelius
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Anemometer blues
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G'day all,

okay here is the situation, I am currently making an Anemometer (wind speed
measurment device) the problem is i have three, oops 4 options on how I can
go about doing it. first one is simple, go out and buy one, *(BUT WHERE
FROM, IS THERE A PLACE IN ADELAIDE???)*. Secondly goto the BoM and see if
they have any spare, *(ANYONE KNOW IF THE BoM DO KEEP OLD ITEMS SUCH AS
ANEMOMETERS)*, Third one is a bit harder making it out of an old
taperecorder motor, micro/milli amp meter etc..(THIS IS THE ONE I AM MAKING
NOW) and the forth option is to live my life with out wind generated
measurement devices.

Okay now here is the good bit where I ask all of you on your opinions, Is a
home made Anemometer going to give me the same results as a $200 option
from the shop???
If not any ideas how I could make it better?

What about commercial Anemometers??? they are expensive, is there a cheaper
option??

Doeas anyone know of a place in South Australia that manufactures these
things...???



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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:59:46 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Chas from Strahan

The 7am winds at the airport NE at only 6knots the wind picks up with
each squally shower. The temp is 4C and the hail is a white carpet
across the lawn left behind from a shower over a hour ago. It was a
miserable day yesterday with our max temp 10C before midday and
constant light rain only 6mm since 9am. This morning there was a
lightening strike about 3km across the bay,     ( then a heavy fall of
soft hail)  which caused a power surge. At the time I was booting up the
computer and threw it into safety mode, no damage done. I only heard
one roll of thunder last night and the one this morning.

CAPE SORELL      WIND SSW  18KT
              ** WAVERIDER SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT  5.6m
                 MAXIMUM HEIGHT OVER THE PAST 3 HRS 10.5m
                                     AVERAGE PERIOD 14 s

Chas




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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:02:45 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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And the blunders by me continue - GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Sorry guys...

Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> The follow members have all paid their membership, I deposited the money
> on Thursday ($210 - $180 cash, $30 money order)
> 
> James Chambers
> Ross Portas
> Greg Curtis
> Steve Baynham
> John Woodbridge
> Joanne Walker
> myself (Anthony Cornelius)
> 
> Regards,
> Anthony Cornelius
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Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:33:07 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Andrew Wall wrote:

> G'day all,

>
> Okay now here is the good bit where I ask all of you on your opinions, Is a
> home made Anemometer going to give me the same results as a $200 option
> from the shop???

you need to calibrate the thing in knots / kmh / beaufort / mph or use your own
arbitary scale and convert to said units. You could always stick your completed
device  out of a (moving) car window to calibrate it... or a Formula 1 for
tornado speeds (: . it would give you a fairly good indication of wind speed.
Electric motors' output increase with rotation fairly linearly. I suspect the
BoM and others use a optical interrupter attached to a digital device with LCD
readouts these days but a motor should be OK for the purpose. It might give you
+-10% if your'e lucky.... surely adequate!

You must try and keep the mass of the whole caboodle down to measure gusts else
your anemometer won't accellerate fast enough to measure transients (gusts) in
windspeed with reasonable accuracy.

Make sure that there isn't an internal regulator on your casette motor else you
won't get any voltage out at all!!!

Try and get a 270 degree analogue meter (does Oz have someone like John Bull or
similar surplus electronic dealer.... not your local Tandy) rather than a
digital one for your readout as you can change the scales quite easily on an
old analogue meter else you'll have to do some mental arithmetic looking at the
voltage on a DVM to convert it into knots / mph etc.


>
> If not any ideas how I could make it better?

Use an optical interrupter device and feed the pulses in through the serial
port of your PC - get some computer whiz to sample the pulse rate  with
software  and create the neccesary lookuptable for ultimately displaying  to
your monitor.... once the raw data has been collected in this way the sky's the
limit!

Les - at one time electronics engineer but now does computers for a meagre
living!


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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:18:15 +1000
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Hi Kelly, I'm Claire. I'm 15 too and I have work experience at the BoM in
Melbourne. I'm actally doing mine in the holidays. I applied in Feb and
only just got a place them. I don't know where else to suggest, but good
luck in finding somewhere. 

Claire McDonald

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> From: Anthony Cornelius 
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> Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 8:48
> 
> Hi Kelly,
> 
> Did the BoM refuse all together, or is it just in the wrong time frame?
> I did work experience at the Brisbane BoM, and I assumed that all BoM
> offices (especially Melbourne's) would have work experience available -
> however, I do know that there are restricted times.  If you're keen, why
> don't you opt to do it in your holidays?  The time I wanted to do work
> experience with the BoM (with school) was not available, so I asked if I
> could do it in my holidays - and that was fine with my school, and again
> - I'd say any school would most probably allow this.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> PS - It was great fun!
> 
> > bernette hudson wrote:
> > 
> > hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather
> > related but i was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria
> > which will do work experience in the weather area except for the
> > Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have tried there.  If you know of a place to
> > go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks heaps
> >                                                              >From
> > Kelly
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:45:23 +1000
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Hi all

Well in the last 2 hours the temp in Melb has really started to fall. The
wind is a very cold WSW. There are now cold air Cb's evident on the western
and southern horizons, the radar is showing Cbs with some yellow (10-20) at
the  southern end of the bay.

The sat pic shows that the best of the cold air is still to the south, and
should move over us, therefore the next 6 hours should be very interesting.
The wind has shifted to the SW at the southern end of the bay and temps
there are near 5 or 6.

I had 12.2mm to 9am, a nice fall, and the best for ages.

Well I'm heading out for another look as the radar shows a cell approaching
my place.

Latest Melb obs are here, http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDO30V01.shtml, Vic
are here

gopher://gilgamesh.ho.bom.gov.au/00/Australian%20Weather%20Information/Victo
ria/Victorian%20Observations/60013.txt%09%09%2B

Will keep updating

Nick from a cold Melbourne.

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From: Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne-Hail and Thunder
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Hi all.													Just had one rumble of thunder here and some small hail, temperature which was on 9c about half an hour ago has dropped back to 6c now (11.15am) 13.6mm of rain overnight takes the monthly total in Kilsyth to 22.0mm. Dane   
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It's about 10C here in Canberra, moderate winds and wet (finally!).

Hopefully there'll be some action in the Alps.

Chris

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Check out


http://www.ski.com.au/info/snowcams/bluecow.html

Looks like the snow season is starting :)


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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
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The Bureau in Melbourne certainly takes work experience students -
I've had dealings with a couple. I don't know for sure but expect 
there's some sort of limit on numbers, so that's probably what you've
run into.

On the scientific (as opposed to operational meteorology) side, CSIRO
Atmospheric Research may be worth a try, although they're in
Aspendale, which might be awkward to get to if you live on the other
side of Melbourne.

Blair Trewin

> Hi Kelly, I'm Claire. I'm 15 too and I have work experience at the BoM in
> Melbourne. I'm actally doing mine in the holidays. I applied in Feb and
> only just got a place them. I don't know where else to suggest, but good
> luck in finding somewhere. 
> 
> Claire McDonald
> 
> ----------
> > From: Anthony Cornelius 
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
> > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 8:48
> > 
> > Hi Kelly,
> > 
> > Did the BoM refuse all together, or is it just in the wrong time frame?
> > I did work experience at the Brisbane BoM, and I assumed that all BoM
> > offices (especially Melbourne's) would have work experience available -
> > however, I do know that there are restricted times.  If you're keen, why
> > don't you opt to do it in your holidays?  The time I wanted to do work
> > experience with the BoM (with school) was not available, so I asked if I
> > could do it in my holidays - and that was fine with my school, and again
> > - I'd say any school would most probably allow this.
> > 
> > Anthony
> > 
> > PS - It was great fun!
> > 
> > > bernette hudson wrote:
> > > 
> > > hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather
> > > related but i was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria
> > > which will do work experience in the weather area except for the
> > > Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have tried there.  If you know of a place to
> > > go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks heaps
> > >                                                              >From
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:45:39 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,

So far 2 submissions for the next photo competition in June.
This is a reminder notice to get your photos in. The cut off
date for submissions is the 26th of May.

If you have a photo of weather or weather
related............

You can submit photos twice if they are pipped at the post
on the first submission.

Please make the photos you submit a width of 400 pixels and
you can submit a maximum of 5 per month.

Since June is winter in Australia (surprised me I know)
winter weather pics would be more welcome.

Please send them to my email address (mike at strikeone.com.au)

Thank you.

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Getting Cold in Melbourne, Cbs approaching
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> 
> Hi all
> 
> Well in the last 2 hours the temp in Melb has really started to fall. The
> wind is a very cold WSW. There are now cold air Cb's evident on the western
> and southern horizons, the radar is showing Cbs with some yellow (10-20) at
> the  southern end of the bay.
> 
> The sat pic shows that the best of the cold air is still to the south, and
> should move over us, therefore the next 6 hours should be very interesting.
> The wind has shifted to the SW at the southern end of the bay and temps
> there are near 5 or 6.
> 
> I had 12.2mm to 9am, a nice fall, and the best for ages.
> 
> Well I'm heading out for another look as the radar shows a cell approaching
> my place.
> 
> Latest Melb obs are here, http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDO30V01.shtml, Vic
> are here
> 
> gopher://gilgamesh.ho.bom.gov.au/00/Australian%20Weather%20Information/Victo
> ria/Victorian%20Observations/60013.txt%09%09%2B
> 
> Will keep updating
> 
> Nick from a cold Melbourne.
The models haven't handled this at all well - the seriously cold air
wasn't expected to penetrate north of Tasmania, but it has. The 
thicknesses seem to have hit about 530 on the latest LAPS analysis
(OO Z - 1000 EST)..

We've had two major bands of showers through in the last couple of
hours, both with some hail. According to a friend at about 400m at
Ferny Creek (Dandenongs) they are experiencing hail bordering on 
snow. There are radio reports of snow at Olinda (550m). Melbourne is
currently at 7.6 C. Not sure what the max is so far today, although
the archived METARS suggest the Melbourne airport max is around 9.
I think, but am not sure (and the database is down so I can't check),
that the last sub-10 max in May was in 1977.

The heaviest rainfalls have been in the far south of Victoria -
58mm at Weeaproinah and 53mm at Wilsons Promontory. 

The most recent LAPS run does push the cold air through further
northwards, suggesting Canberra will be pretty cold later on today 
and tomorrow.

Blair Trewin
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At 12:52 15/05/99 , you wrote:

>We've had two major bands of showers through in the last couple of
>hours, both with some hail. According to a friend at about 400m at
>Ferny Creek (Dandenongs) they are experiencing hail bordering on 
>snow. There are radio reports of snow at Olinda (550m).

I've also heard reports of snow at Ballarat.

>The most recent LAPS run does push the cold air through further
>northwards, suggesting Canberra will be pretty cold later on today 
>and tomorrow.

Excellent!

About 10 mins ago it was dark and drizzly (as it had been all day).
Sun just broke through suddenly and there's blue sky abounding.

Hang on - I spoke too soon... here comes the rain again :)

Weird day - but still not very cold for a May day.

Chris


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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
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Kelly - Hi
Have you considered airports? Coastguard, etc.  Places (organisations) who need to watch weather in their day to day activities?

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather related but i
> was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria which will do work
> experience in the weather area except for the Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have
> tried there.  If you know of a place to go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks
> heaps
>                                                              From Kelly


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From: "bernette hudson" [bernette at primus.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help
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hi umm the time frame wasnt available but i have rang up agin and asked for
a different time and the lady has to ring and it is in my holidays so i hope
to get it. Can i ask what you did while you were there Anthony
>From Kelly
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From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Date: Saturday, May 15, 1999 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: May i have some help


>Hi Kelly,
>
>Did the BoM refuse all together, or is it just in the wrong time frame?
>I did work experience at the Brisbane BoM, and I assumed that all BoM
>offices (especially Melbourne's) would have work experience available -
>however, I do know that there are restricted times.  If you're keen, why
>don't you opt to do it in your holidays?  The time I wanted to do work
>experience with the BoM (with school) was not available, so I asked if I
>could do it in my holidays - and that was fine with my school, and again
>- I'd say any school would most probably allow this.
>
>Anthony
>
>PS - It was great fun!
>
>> bernette hudson wrote:
>>
>> hi my name is Kelly and i am 15 i know this message isnt weather
>> related but i was wondering does anyone know of any places in Victoria
>> which will do work experience in the weather area except for the
>> Beurea of Meteorolgy as i have tried there.  If you know of a place to
>> go to please tell me ASAP.  Thanks heaps
>>                                                              >From
>> Kelly
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:57:57 +1000
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Well well, what on earth is this system going to do. I'm at my parents
place in Taralga on the southern tablelands in NSW for the weekend (it's on
the BoM's district boundarys map) , and I'm being reminded of why I love to
come here so often. I think the cold front has just gone through, it's 9.3C
and falling, it's showery - no sleet yet, and I'm begining to feel that
despite the forecasts, I'll be disapointed if I don't see some snow before
morning!

The 1PM (EST) chart does look drastically different from what you would
expect from the one that was issued at 4AM this morning, so maybe I have
hope yet, providing that high behind the front doesn't but in too quick.

No 3PM obs from the snowies!! See what happens.

Andrew...

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Geelong's second coldest May day on record.(11 deg measured at BoM out of
town) (Coldest was 9.5 on 27-5-87). My thermometer only made it to 10.3 at
2 pm.  It was 6.9 at 11.30 am.  Wind swung from SW to southerly at 10 am
with some strong gusts. Urban area rainfall from 6 pm Fri to 4 pm Sat
totalled 16.4 mm.  BoM rainfall at Mt Duneed AWS (Geelong AP) is at present
way out of calibration or something with only 0.4 mm registered on the web
page despite all close surrounding places having at least 15 mm.  They have
often been wrong in the past and that is one of the reasons Geelong Weather
Services exists.  Regards to all, Lindsay Smail.

At 12:52 PM 15-05-99 +1000, Blair Trewin wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Well in the last 2 hours the temp in Melb has really started to fall. The
>> wind is a very cold WSW. There are now cold air Cb's evident on the western
>> and southern horizons, the radar is showing Cbs with some yellow (10-20) at
>> the  southern end of the bay.
>> 
>> The sat pic shows that the best of the cold air is still to the south, and
>> should move over us, therefore the next 6 hours should be very interesting.
>> The wind has shifted to the SW at the southern end of the bay and temps
>> there are near 5 or 6.
>> 
>> I had 12.2mm to 9am, a nice fall, and the best for ages.
>> 
>> Well I'm heading out for another look as the radar shows a cell approaching
>> my place.
>> 
>> Latest Melb obs are here, http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDO30V01.shtml,
Vic
>> are here
>> 
>>
gopher://gilgamesh.ho.bom.gov.au/00/Australian%20Weather%20Information/Victo
>> ria/Victorian%20Observations/60013.txt%09%09%2B
>> 
>> Will keep updating
>> 
>> Nick from a cold Melbourne.
>The models haven't handled this at all well - the seriously cold air
>wasn't expected to penetrate north of Tasmania, but it has. The 
>thicknesses seem to have hit about 530 on the latest LAPS analysis
>(OO Z - 1000 EST)..
>
>We've had two major bands of showers through in the last couple of
>hours, both with some hail. According to a friend at about 400m at
>Ferny Creek (Dandenongs) they are experiencing hail bordering on 
>snow. There are radio reports of snow at Olinda (550m). Melbourne is
>currently at 7.6 C. Not sure what the max is so far today, although
>the archived METARS suggest the Melbourne airport max is around 9.
>I think, but am not sure (and the database is down so I can't check),
>that the last sub-10 max in May was in 1977.
>
>The heaviest rainfalls have been in the far south of Victoria -
>58mm at Weeaproinah and 53mm at Wilsons Promontory. 
>
>The most recent LAPS run does push the cold air through further
>northwards, suggesting Canberra will be pretty cold later on today 
>and tomorrow.
>
>Blair Trewin
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:25:07 +1000
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Heartening.....we're at 850m.....

IDF25N07
SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
Tonight
Cloudy with a few showers falling as snow above 800 metres. Cold. Strong
and
squally west to southwest wind, squally at times.

Sunday   
Early frost. Clearing showers/snow or drizzle in the west. Cool to cold
partly
cloudy day.  Moderate to fresh west to southwest wind easing during the
day. 



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> From: Andrew Miskelly 
> To: Weather Mailing List 
> Subject: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 15:57
> 
> Well well, what on earth is this system going to do. I'm at my parents
> place in Taralga on the southern tablelands in NSW for the weekend (it's
on
> the BoM's district boundarys map) , and I'm being reminded of why I love
to
> come here so often. I think the cold front has just gone through, it's
9.3C
> and falling, it's showery - no sleet yet, and I'm begining to feel that
> despite the forecasts, I'll be disapointed if I don't see some snow
before
> morning!
> 
> The 1PM (EST) chart does look drastically different from what you would
> expect from the one that was issued at 4AM this morning, so maybe I have
> hope yet, providing that high behind the front doesn't but in too quick.
> 
> No 3PM obs from the snowies!! See what happens.
> 
> Andrew...
> 
> --
> Andrew Miskelly
> Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:33:42 +1000
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4.0C and still raining! Damn, that wind needs to drop!!

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> From: Andrew Miskelly 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:25
> 
> Heartening.....we're at 850m.....
> 
> IDF25N07
> SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
> Tonight
> Cloudy with a few showers falling as snow above 800 metres. Cold. Strong
> and
> squally west to southwest wind, squally at times.
> 
> Sunday   
> Early frost. Clearing showers/snow or drizzle in the west. Cool to cold
> partly
> cloudy day.  Moderate to fresh west to southwest wind easing during the
> day. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------
> > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > To: Weather Mailing List 
> > Subject: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 15:57
> > 
> > Well well, what on earth is this system going to do. I'm at my parents
> > place in Taralga on the southern tablelands in NSW for the weekend
(it's
> on
> > the BoM's district boundarys map) , and I'm being reminded of why I
love
> to
> > come here so often. I think the cold front has just gone through, it's
> 9.3C
> > and falling, it's showery - no sleet yet, and I'm begining to feel that
> > despite the forecasts, I'll be disapointed if I don't see some snow
> before
> > morning!
> > 
> > The 1PM (EST) chart does look drastically different from what you would
> > expect from the one that was issued at 4AM this morning, so maybe I
have
> > hope yet, providing that high behind the front doesn't but in too
quick.
> > 
> > No 3PM obs from the snowies!! See what happens.
> > 
> > Andrew...
> > 
> > --
> > Andrew Miskelly
> > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:38:43 +1000
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3.6C and sleet's here, must be getting close now......

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> From: Andrew Miskelly 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:33
> 
> 4.0C and still raining! Damn, that wind needs to drop!!
> 
> ----------
> > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:25
> > 
> > Heartening.....we're at 850m.....
> > 
> > IDF25N07
> > SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
> > Tonight
> > Cloudy with a few showers falling as snow above 800 metres. Cold.
Strong
> > and
> > squally west to southwest wind, squally at times.
> > 
> > Sunday   
> > Early frost. Clearing showers/snow or drizzle in the west. Cool to cold
> > partly
> > cloudy day.  Moderate to fresh west to southwest wind easing during the
> > day. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > > To: Weather Mailing List 
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 15:57
> > > 
> > > Well well, what on earth is this system going to do. I'm at my
parents
> > > place in Taralga on the southern tablelands in NSW for the weekend
> (it's
> > on
> > > the BoM's district boundarys map) , and I'm being reminded of why I
> love
> > to
> > > come here so often. I think the cold front has just gone through,
it's
> > 9.3C
> > > and falling, it's showery - no sleet yet, and I'm begining to feel
that
> > > despite the forecasts, I'll be disapointed if I don't see some snow
> > before
> > > morning!
> > > 
> > > The 1PM (EST) chart does look drastically different from what you
would
> > > expect from the one that was issued at 4AM this morning, so maybe I
> have
> > > hope yet, providing that high behind the front doesn't but in too
> quick.
> > > 
> > > No 3PM obs from the snowies!! See what happens.
> > > 
> > > Andrew...
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Andrew Miskelly
> > > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
> > > 
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:43:26 +1000
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Ah, hell, I'll go and chase it back here from the hills, tell you all what
happened later. 

Cheers,
Andrew.

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> From: Andrew Miskelly 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:38
> 
> 3.6C and sleet's here, must be getting close now......
> 
> ----------
> > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:33
> > 
> > 4.0C and still raining! Damn, that wind needs to drop!!
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 16:25
> > > 
> > > Heartening.....we're at 850m.....
> > > 
> > > IDF25N07
> > > SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
> > > Tonight
> > > Cloudy with a few showers falling as snow above 800 metres. Cold.
> Strong
> > > and
> > > squally west to southwest wind, squally at times.
> > > 
> > > Sunday   
> > > Early frost. Clearing showers/snow or drizzle in the west. Cool to
cold
> > > partly
> > > cloudy day.  Moderate to fresh west to southwest wind easing during
the
> > > day. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Andrew Miskelly 
> > > > To: Weather Mailing List 
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: Southern Tablelands NSW Weather.
> > > > Date: Saturday, 15 May 1999 15:57
> > > > 
> > > > Well well, what on earth is this system going to do. I'm at my
> parents
> > > > place in Taralga on the southern tablelands in NSW for the weekend
> > (it's
> > > on
> > > > the BoM's district boundarys map) , and I'm being reminded of why I
> > love
> > > to
> > > > come here so often. I think the cold front has just gone through,
> it's
> > > 9.3C
> > > > and falling, it's showery - no sleet yet, and I'm begining to feel
> that
> > > > despite the forecasts, I'll be disapointed if I don't see some snow
> > > before
> > > > morning!
> > > > 
> > > > The 1PM (EST) chart does look drastically different from what you
> would
> > > > expect from the one that was issued at 4AM this morning, so maybe I
> > have
> > > > hope yet, providing that high behind the front doesn't but in too
> > quick.
> > > > 
> > > > No 3PM obs from the snowies!! See what happens.
> > > > 
> > > > Andrew...
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Miskelly
> > > > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
> > > > 
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:18:45 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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The cold front hit Seven Hills North about 5.30 pm dropping the temp 6
degrees and bumping up the barometer 9 millibars in 2 hours....
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:24:56 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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as per attachment
weeklysummaries

Summary of weather observations for Seven Hills--week ended Saturday 8th May, 1999

Observation	 Reading	 Date of extreme	
Average maximum	 21.1	  	
Average minimum	 10.5	  	
Average terrestrial minimum	 6.0	  	
Highest maximum	 22.4	 5	
Lowest maximum	 18.1	 1	
Highest minimum	 13.5	 6	
Lowest minimum	 8.3	 4	
Highest terrestrial minimum	 9.9	 7	
Lowest terrestrial minimum	 2.9	 4	
Total rainfall	 18.6	  	
Rain days	 4	  	
Highest daily rainfall	 11.8	 2	
Total evaporation	 14.6	  	
Total wind run	 1060.8	  	
Highest wind run	 302.2	 1	
Lowest barometer	 1021.0	 1	
Highest barometer	 1034.7	 5	
Thunder	 0	  	
Lightning	 0	  	
Hail	 0	  	
Frost	 0	  	
Fog/mist	 5	  	
Byram Keetch drought index as at 7/5/1999	 56.8	  	
Last Updated on 8/05/99
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:40:46 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Sorry folks about this.
It's not per the attachment but the previous week (dull statement of the
obvious). I think I'll give this up as the rotten thing won't let me fix
it
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:29:27 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Brrr is right Nandina.

It's not freezing today, Saturday, yet, (around 7 degrees just now) but
boy is it blowing a gale! Strongest winds we've had since last august
during the snow blizzard, I'd say. Garden furniture blown down the yard,
bin toppled over and it seems to be getting stronger as I sit
here...hope it gets real cold and snowy! :-)

Linsday Pearce

Nandina Morris wrote:
> 
> Brrr
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nandina
> nandina at alphalink.com.au
> 
> ----------
> > Not quite chilly enough for snow, but its 5.7 degrees and very blowy
> > here in the Upper Blue Mountains. Wind Chill definately below zero.
> >
> >
>


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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:26:48 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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It's around 2 degrees here in the upper blue mountains at approx. 8 pm,
Saturday night with a wet bulb nudging zero. Possible conditions for
snow but cloud is a bit scattered just now, I've got the camera ready
:-) Had very cold, snow like rain earlier. Just a fraction too warm at
that time, so it melted just before it got to us. It was like, very
grainy rain. Lithgow was slightly cooler and wet at 6pm, maybe say, five
degrees there.

Lindsay Pearce.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Vantage Points
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:27:32 +1000
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A couple of vantage points I found today in my search for 'weather'......

1. Beaumaris Yacht Club carpark
Melways reference: map 86, B8
View: NNW - S
Clear view across Port Phillip Bay - ideal for cold outbreaks like today
Unobstructed views from Williamstown to Portsea.

2. Beaconsfield Parade, St Kilda
Melways reference: map 57, F6      
View: W - SE
Another clear view across Port Phillip Bay but further to the north than
Beaumaris.

Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Victoria


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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Cold Outbreak
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:34:15 +1000
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....... today in the Melbourne area there have been reports of:

thunder ( Greensborough, Balwyn, Geelong, Kilsyth)
.5cm hail (Bayswater, St Kilda foreshore, Greensborough)
funnels (Port Phillip Bay - Werribee & Mornington Peninsula)
snow (to the north & north east of Melbourne, Ballarat, Mt Dandenong)

I've probably missed something, but seeing as I *finally* had breakfast at
4pm & I'm just now getting to dinner, the brain has pretty much ceased to
function....could some of the other locals please fill in the gaps & correct
my listing if you spot any inaccuracy?

Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Melbourne



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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: DISCOVERY LAUNCH POSTPONED TO REPAIR FUEL TANK HAIL DAMAGE
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:11:28 +1000
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Nice to know not even NASA is immune from nature's onslaught!

>DISCOVERY LAUNCH POSTPONED TO REPAIR FUEL TANK HAIL DAMAGE
>
>     Space Shuttle managers have postponed the launch of Discovery for at
least
>one week to permit technicians to repair foam insulation on the external
fuel
>tank that was damaged by a severe hail storm last weekend.
>
>     Previously scheduled for May 20, Discovery's launch on Shuttle mission
STS-
>96 will be delayed for a minimum of at least a week to no earlier than May
27.
>Managers will schedule a new target launch date once the repairs near
>completion, probably by the middle of next week.
>
>     Discovery will be moved from the launch pad back to the Vehicle
Assembly
>Building at NASA's Kennedy Space Center, FL, to allow repair workers to
gain
>access to some areas of the tank that cannot be reached at the pad.  The
hail
>storm caused several small indentations in the tank's foam insulation, and
>managers are concerned that ice could form in the areas when the tank is
filled
>with super-cold propellants for launch.  Such areas of ice could cause
debris
>damage to the Shuttle after liftoff.  Similar repairs to the external fuel
>tank's foam insulation were performed once before, prior to Shuttle mission
STS-
>70 in July 1995.


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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: The List returns.....
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:26:57 +1000
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The List (details of members of the aussie-weather mailing list) is back,
but the address has changed.  This isn't advertised outside this group and
is not linked to any other page.

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/the_list.htm

Please check your details to ensure they are current & email me with any
additions, subtractions or changes.  I have included those people on the
list who have provided us with at least a *real* name to go with the email
address.  I'd really like to fill in locations as well, and the more phone
numbers the better (especially with November rushing down upon us!!).


Many thanks,

Jane ONeill

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Hi everyone,
            Had a couple of showers about lunch time today with small winter 
3-5mm dia. hail, but no thunder. The clouds looked rather glaciated near 
their bases, so had we had been a bit more elevated, snow could have reached 
the ground. Maximum temperature just 11.0 deg. at 15:30 est. The frontal 
rain band reached here at about 03:00 this morning, but only resulted in 4.2 
mm of rain.
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From: Dane Newman [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Coldest Melbourne May day for 22years
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:48:54 +1000
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Hi all,													Official top temp in Melbourne today was 10.4c the coldest May day since 1977. Top here in Kilsyth was 9.3c At 2.15pm it was just 4.6c here. Snow fell in many parts of the Dandenongs, Ballarat, Mt Macedon, Kinglake and no doubt several other low level locations. Most of the showers and hail has cleared now current temp (11.50pm) in Kilsyth is 4.4c. Dane     
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