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001 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]    Strahan Tasmania
002 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Cold outbreak"
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Sydney BoM weathers inquiry:)
004 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Record roundup
005 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Survey for S.G.P.
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Current Obs.
007 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Temps at a given height?
008 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au]        Record roundup
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Temps at a given height?
010 Debbie Parker [debp at rie.net.au]                Detailed Report on Sydney Hailstorm..
011 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   cold video night
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Cold night in Seven Hills
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Survey for S.G.P.
014 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Current Obs.
015 disarm at braenet.com.au                          Meeting/Interview
016 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   BoM Observations
017 "GLENDA & ARTHUR JOHN" [glenda_arthur at spiderw  (no subject)

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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:30:14 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone

Another 5mm of rain to 9am which makes fifteen rain days in this month.
We did not record anything on the 6th and 7th. The wind is from the
North 
and we are forecast clearing showers.

OBSERVATIONS:9am

CAPE SORELL      WIND NNE  11KT
              ** WAVERIDER SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT  3.6m
                 MAXIMUM HEIGHT OVER THE PAST 3 HRS 6.3m
                                     AVERAGE PERIOD  12s

Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:33:23 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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RODNEY AIKMAN wrote on Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:44:06 PDT:
> 
> Hi everyone,
>             To any of the Victorians on the list that may be
> interested in tracking the cold front across the state:
[snip]

This must be a world record for mail delivery delays...

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That's over 25 days! Me thinks that either the host called 
"wy1lg.hotmail.com" or Rod's machine has spoofed the date
back to 20 Apr 1999. Otherwise, this mail is indeed a world
record 25+day-delay:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:35:34 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Don White wrote on Sun, 16 May 1999 20:00:51 +1000:
> 
> Blair...
> I know it's not spoken about at the bureau but why do we need regional
> forecasting centres anymore, with communications as they are.
> Would not one well staffed and efficient forecasting centre suffice ?

Don,

Permission please to offer my opinions of this classic 
"centralisation" v/s "decentralisation" debate:-) This
is probably nothing that you don't already know...

While "forecasting" is a skill that can be easily 
centralised given the nature of communications and 
computing today. "Observation" and "weather interpretation"
are real-time skills with needs that are in part met by a 
decentralised approach using AWS, radar and satellite data 
(etc.) being fed back to a centralised point. However, total
"observation" and "weather interpretation" skills must be 
completed using only the value added by a human observer. 
The issue thus becomes how best to meet the needs of 
decentralised human-based weather observation and 
interpretation.

Whether regional forecasting offices meet this need or not
is no doubt a subject of intense and often emotional debate.
It could be argued that a more formal and skilled "spotter"
network might meet this need but this would need to be shaped
along the lines of a more formal organisation with better
access to training and real-time weather observation data. 

I could venture to suggest that ASWA Inc. has the makings of
a suitable organisational model but evolved from a dual need. 
Firstly, to satisfy the more intense interest, study and
education of "severe weather" by its members and secondly,
to provide a more highly skilled and mobile spotter network.

My first caveat is that I'm not sure whether the ASWA Inc.
organisational model could scale sufficiently. My second
caveat is that I well understand the motive to expand the 
existing BoM regional organisation (I am guilty of this 
attitude within Telstra). It seems to me that expanding the
BoM is the right approach today given the current immaturity
of the ASWA Inc. approach. In the future, I might change
this opinion...

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

> Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Here is the result of the inquiry into the Hailstorm and failure to give
> > > warnings.
> > >
> > The full report was apparently tabled in Parliament last night. I'm
> > trying to get hold of a copy (as it's been tabled it should now be
> > a public document), and if I do will post a summary of pertinent
> > points. Senator Hill's speech apparently gave a lot of the main
> > points - I haven't gone looking for it yet but someone said they'd
> > found it in Hansard (try www.aph.gov.au?).
> >
> > So far I only know what's been reported in the media. The most
> > interesting aspect of this was the communications - and this may go
> > a long way to explaining why the likes of Michael feel they get
> > pretty short shrift from the Bureau. Under the current system, out
> > of business hours the forecasters are answering their own phones,
> > and frankly in a fast-developing situation they've got better things
> > to do - some of the calls contain valuable information, some are a
> > waste of time. One idea I've been floating around here is for regional
> > offices to be able to divert their phones to another state under less
> > pressure in a severe-weather situation - that way the person who does
> > the screening of the phone calls (and takes the decisions about
> > which ones are worth passing on) isn't someone who is trying to
> > forecast the storms at the same time. (For example, something that
> > could be done might be to divert the storm spotters number to, say,
> > Melbourne, and for someone in Melbourne to take down details and
> > relay them via e-mail or some other text-based system to Sydney - I
> > imagine a message appearing on the screen along the lines of '1840
> > Bundeena, 4cm hail reported' is what the forecasters need, and they
> > could digest it quickly in a situation where every minute counts).
> >
> > (I'm also attracted by the idea of being able to transfer the Stan
> > Zemaneks of this world to waste the time of someone in some other
> > state).
> >
> > Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Record roundup
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A quick roundup of some records from the weekend and this morning

May record minimum

Mildura		-2 (rounded) (former record -0.7)
		(also new record for earliest sub-zero min -
		previously 27/5)
Nhill		-4.2 (previously -2.6)
		(inhomogeneity suspected at station)

Early-season record and possible May record

Rutherglen	-4 (rounded) (former early-season record -3.5, May
		record -4.3)

Early-season record

Bathurst	-4.7 (equalled 1957 mark)
Deniliquin PO	-0.8 (previously -0.6)
Dubbo		-1.4 (previously -1.2)
Nowra		3 (rounded) (previously 3.8)
Wyalong		-1.7 (previously -0.6)
Kerang		-0.2 (previously 1.2 - also new record for earliest
		sub-zero min, previously 26/5)

Falls Creek (-7.7) narrowly missed the Victorian May record of -8.3.
(Note that the Lookout Hill -7.8 is probably incorrect, as is the
Trangie -7.0 in NSW).

The above only includes stations in my high-quality daily 
temperature data set. There may well have been records set at other
stations.

For the major cities:

Melbourne

Saturday max	10.4 - lowest in May since 1977
		     - lowest early-season since 1951

(there have only been 3 lower maxima earlier in autumn - 5/12/1896,
15/4/1900 and 8/5/1951)

Sunday min	3.1 - lowest in May since 1981
		    - lowest early-season since 1969

Canberra

Sunday min	-6 (rounded) - lowest in May since 1987/1982/1976,
		depending on exact figure
		- 2nd-lowest early-season, after 16/5/1957 (-7.3)

Sydney

Sunday/Monday min 7 (rounded) - lowest early-season since at least
		1973 (7.3), possibly 1961 (7.1) or 1949 (6.2)

Snow reports from Melbourne region (Saturday)

Weeaproinah (492m) - observer reported snow at 0900
Kinglake (550m) - football match abandoned because of heavy snow
Ballarat (~450m) - mostly soft hail but some snow mixed in. No settling.
Ferny Creek (450m) - snow shower about 1430 after soft hail earlier in
		day
Olinda (580m) - snow reported in media

The snow level between Melbourne and Lake Mountain was about 350m 
falling and 450m settling.

Another impressive set of numbers was the -9 from Cooma and the -8 
from Braidwood this morning. Ditto the -7 from Bathurst and Orange
airports yesterday.

All in all, a most impressive event, certainly the best autumn cold
outbreak in Victoria since 1989, perhaps since 1977 (and both 1977 
and 1989 were on May 31).

Blair Trewin
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:07:53 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Just some words of caution...

1) You don't know for real who the recipient of your answers might be.
2) In-person interviews are probably best.
3) ASWA is not an employer. The fact that this ? is asked could be
   just pure ignorance.
4) We don't want the wrong stories getting leaked to the media via
   an "innocent" survey.
5) These ? are too direct and more like a fishing exercise. Hardly
   the kind of stuff that a Y11 geography student ought to be
   reporting about from other sources given the wealth of info now
   officially available from the BoM.

Michael Scollay
Treasurer, ASWA Inc.       
mailto:treasurer at severeweather.asn.au

Matt Smith wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone
> 
> The person below emailed me asking to take part in a survey on the Sydney
> Hailstorm for a project... feel free to email him your answers.
> 
> Matt Smith
> 
> >
> >Hi thank you for taking part in my survey which will help me with my
> >research in my year 11 Senior Geography Project. When you are finished
> >please email the answers to Paul_Campbell06 at hotmail.com
> >The questions are as follows:
> >1) What is your name?
> >
> >
> >2) What is your full job description?
> >
> >
> >
> >3) Is the ASWA your employer? If not then who is your employer?
> >
> >
> >4) Where are you based at in Sydney?
> >
> >
> >5) How long have you been watching and predicting storms?
> >
> >
> >6) What were your predictions of the Supercell Storm?
> >
> >
> >7) What aspects tell us the severity of a storm?
> >
> >
> >8) Have you experienced a storm of this level before? If yes when?
> >
> >
> >9) What equipment is used to monitor weather and predict storms?
> >
> >
> >10) What different Phenomenons were recorded the day of the Supercell
> >storm?
> >
> >
> >11) Were the readings on this day different from readings from other
> >storms? If yes how?
> >
> >
> >
> >12) How much warning is given before storms hit and how much was given
> >on this particular day?
> >
> >
> >
> >13) How have you predicted storms in the past and is it easy to
> >predict the storms?
> >
> >
> >
> >14) Has other storms and there predictions helped with the prediction     of
> >this storm?
> >
> >
> >
> >15) Did you live in the storm area hit? If yes what damage was caused     to
> >your house?
> >
> >
> >
> >16) Do you know what the boundary line is for the storms destruction path?
> >(what parts were affected).
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >*Thankyou for your help it is much appreciated!
> >
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Howdy all.

After some promising "turkey necks" this morning, the sky has cleared with
the usual cu over the mountains and some cu/stratocu out to sea. Boring but
beautiful weather here....blue sky for miles.

Starting to forget what rain is.

Hope we get some soon.

PS When is M Baths big bye bye party? Is it the Saturday or the Sunday?


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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:33:34 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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I'm trying to invent a script that takes a hit at;

http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/metgram1.pl

that generates a text file then calculates the temperature at a 
given height e.g. 1800m over the time series given.

Now we have data for elevations of 700mb and 850mb;

a) Temperature
b) 1000mb to Xmb Thickness 
c) Geopotential Height of Xmb

Using either Thickness or Geopotential Height, I can interpolate 
the temperature at 1800m by calculating the lapse rate at the 
particular height given by the differential between 700mb and 850mb.
That's rough and ready, assuming no inversions, but it'll do within
that range of heights.

Now what would give the more realistic temperature estimate? 1000mb
Thickness or Geopotential Height? 

Thanks in advance,

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:43:14 +1000
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Dear Blair and all,

New May minimum record set for Geelong on 17th: 0.1 (previously it was 0.2
set on 14-5-72. Frost in nearby coastal towns fairly unusual too!
Lindsay Smail.




At 11:41 AM 17-05-99 +1000, you wrote:
>A quick roundup of some records from the weekend and this morning
>
>May record minimum
>
>Mildura		-2 (rounded) (former record -0.7)
>		(also new record for earliest sub-zero min -
>		previously 27/5)
>Nhill		-4.2 (previously -2.6)
>		(inhomogeneity suspected at station)
>
>Early-season record and possible May record
>
>Rutherglen	-4 (rounded) (former early-season record -3.5, May
>		record -4.3)
>
>Early-season record
>
>Bathurst	-4.7 (equalled 1957 mark)
>Deniliquin PO	-0.8 (previously -0.6)
>Dubbo		-1.4 (previously -1.2)
>Nowra		3 (rounded) (previously 3.8)
>Wyalong		-1.7 (previously -0.6)
>Kerang		-0.2 (previously 1.2 - also new record for earliest
>		sub-zero min, previously 26/5)
>
>Falls Creek (-7.7) narrowly missed the Victorian May record of -8.3.
>(Note that the Lookout Hill -7.8 is probably incorrect, as is the
>Trangie -7.0 in NSW).
>
>The above only includes stations in my high-quality daily 
>temperature data set. There may well have been records set at other
>stations.
>
>For the major cities:
>
>Melbourne
>
>Saturday max	10.4 - lowest in May since 1977
>		     - lowest early-season since 1951
>
>(there have only been 3 lower maxima earlier in autumn - 5/12/1896,
>15/4/1900 and 8/5/1951)
>
>Sunday min	3.1 - lowest in May since 1981
>		    - lowest early-season since 1969
>
>Canberra
>
>Sunday min	-6 (rounded) - lowest in May since 1987/1982/1976,
>		depending on exact figure
>		- 2nd-lowest early-season, after 16/5/1957 (-7.3)
>
>Sydney
>
>Sunday/Monday min 7 (rounded) - lowest early-season since at least
>		1973 (7.3), possibly 1961 (7.1) or 1949 (6.2)
>
>Snow reports from Melbourne region (Saturday)
>
>Weeaproinah (492m) - observer reported snow at 0900
>Kinglake (550m) - football match abandoned because of heavy snow
>Ballarat (~450m) - mostly soft hail but some snow mixed in. No settling.
>Ferny Creek (450m) - snow shower about 1430 after soft hail earlier in
>		day
>Olinda (580m) - snow reported in media
>
>The snow level between Melbourne and Lake Mountain was about 350m 
>falling and 450m settling.
>
>Another impressive set of numbers was the -9 from Cooma and the -8 
>from Braidwood this morning. Ditto the -7 from Bathurst and Orange
>airports yesterday.
>
>All in all, a most impressive event, certainly the best autumn cold
>outbreak in Victoria since 1989, perhaps since 1977 (and both 1977 
>and 1989 were on May 31).
>
>Blair Trewin
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:45:43 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Michael Scollay wrote at Mon, 17 May 1999 16:33:34 +1000:

[snip]
> 
> Now what would give the more realistic temperature estimate? 1000mb
> Thickness or Geopotential Height?

I answered this question myself and then realised that if 
you think about it, the answer is the same by the time one 
puts in the height correction of 1000mb. Derrr:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Debbie Parker [debp at rie.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Detailed Report on Sydney Hailstorm..
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:27:29 +1000
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This is great information - whatever you make of the findings.
Can anyone tell me if there were any reports like the one below made about the Sydney-Hobart race at Christmas?
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks

Debbie Parker
Boronia , Melbourne

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Subject:	aus-wx: Detailed Report on Sydney Hailstorm..

Have a look at:
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/storms/sydney_hail/hail_report.shtml


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: cold video night
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:44:39 +1000
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By all means we just have to get a venue, I am happy to put up my hand for
my place, but I think most would not turn up as it is a 100km ( 2 hour )
drive for most from Sydney.

Michael
>
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Jimmy here.
> >
> > We had the video night last night and there were ten in attendance. It
was
> > a great time had by all and we all appreciate Michael B's hospitality. I
> > can tell you pizza and storm/tornado videos work well on a cold night.
>
> What are the chances of you guys having a video night in November for Les
&
> Christine?? Thats if it turns out to be storm free!!
>
> Les
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold night in Seven Hills
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:48:11 +1000
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Not so bad near the ocean here in the Southern Illawarra, again the land
breeze kept temperatures around 8-9C near the salty stuff.

The Wollongong site was 5C, but it is at the base of the escarpment and on
flat ground. The Bellambi site was 8C min and that is a better indicator if
you live near the ocean ( within 1KM ).

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Sent: Sunday, 16 May 1999 19:48
Subject: aus-wx: Cold night in Seven Hills


> This morning here was:
> The earliest day for a frost in at least 23 years
> The lowest May minimum since 25.5.1982 (4.0 deg)
> The 4th lowest terrestrial minimum on record for May in 23 years (minus
> 1.6 deg)
> All this for an elevation of 83m above MSL, on top of a hill
> I had to rub the ice off the thermometer to read it...
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Survey for S.G.P.
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:25:27 +1000
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I replied but nothing controversial, and nothing about warnings on the day.

After reading it fully I tend to think that some of the questions are
actually a little dumb and not what a weather interested person would ask,
so I do not expect a fishing exercise from the scientific community, however
the questions may of course indicate a media / reporter fishing.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Monday, 17 May 1999 12:07
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Survey for S.G.P.


> Just some words of caution...
>
> 1) You don't know for real who the recipient of your answers might be.
> 2) In-person interviews are probably best.
> 3) ASWA is not an employer. The fact that this ? is asked could be
>    just pure ignorance.
> 4) We don't want the wrong stories getting leaked to the media via
>    an "innocent" survey.
> 5) These ? are too direct and more like a fishing exercise. Hardly
>    the kind of stuff that a Y11 geography student ought to be
>    reporting about from other sources given the wealth of info now
>    officially available from the BoM.
>
> Michael Scollay
> Treasurer, ASWA Inc.
> mailto:treasurer at severeweather.asn.au
>
> Matt Smith wrote:
> >
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > The person below emailed me asking to take part in a survey on the
Sydney
> > Hailstorm for a project... feel free to email him your answers.
> >
> > Matt Smith
> >
> > >
> > >Hi thank you for taking part in my survey which will help me with my
> > >research in my year 11 Senior Geography Project. When you are finished
> > >please email the answers to Paul_Campbell06 at hotmail.com
> > >The questions are as follows:
> > >1) What is your name?
> > >
> > >
> > >2) What is your full job description?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >3) Is the ASWA your employer? If not then who is your employer?
> > >
> > >
> > >4) Where are you based at in Sydney?
> > >
> > >
> > >5) How long have you been watching and predicting storms?
> > >
> > >
> > >6) What were your predictions of the Supercell Storm?
> > >
> > >
> > >7) What aspects tell us the severity of a storm?
> > >
> > >
> > >8) Have you experienced a storm of this level before? If yes when?
> > >
> > >
> > >9) What equipment is used to monitor weather and predict storms?
> > >
> > >
> > >10) What different Phenomenons were recorded the day of the Supercell
> > >storm?
> > >
> > >
> > >11) Were the readings on this day different from readings from other
> > >storms? If yes how?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >12) How much warning is given before storms hit and how much was given
> > >on this particular day?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >13) How have you predicted storms in the past and is it easy to
> > >predict the storms?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >14) Has other storms and there predictions helped with the prediction
of
> > >this storm?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >15) Did you live in the storm area hit? If yes what damage was caused
to
> > >your house?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >16) Do you know what the boundary line is for the storms destruction
path?
> > >(what parts were affected).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >*Thankyou for your help it is much appreciated!
> > >
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Current Obs.
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:30:00 +1000
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> Starting to forget what rain is.
>
and unless you live north of the Hunter you can write the next 5 days off as
well. I hate this sort of weather.

Michael


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From: disarm at braenet.com.au
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:34:35 +1000
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Hello Everyone.

This evening i had an interview with 2 people from England doing a
documentary on lightning, it will be a 30 minute presentation and they are
in Sydney to find out about the Sydney Hailstorm on April 14.(only a part
of the show will be dedicated to it)

They lady (Katrina)contacted me through Michael Bath yesterday and asked if
she could meet me to discuss the storm, as i observed the storm since 6pm
that night.

I went into this blind, it was my first personal dealing with the media, i
didnt know what to expect apart from that they wanted to see my lightning
photos.

To cut it short, they paid for my taxi fair to and from the city :), I met
them at there hotel room and we went to a cafe area to talk.
I showed them my photos, but they were only interested in the lightning, eg
"what colour was it/how frequent was it/how did it differ from other
storms/what was special about it/back to the lightning what are your
thoughts on it/so with the lightning" blah blah etc etc
 
  Anyway theres only so many ways you can describe lightning that had a
tinge of red to it that lite up the sky every second and that plenty of
CG's CC's were observed.
 I tried to draw away from that, pointing out it was the most costly
natural disaster in Australia's history,I had plenty of damage photos, 9cm
hail was recorded,no one was seriously injured except the poor guy in the
boat, and that it was a SUPERCELL, but it didnt really register with them,
they struck me as your typical media type people, get the story over and
done with and try and look interested in what the other person is saying.

I also pointed out numerous times that i am a Storm Spotter and a member of
ASWA, described our goals and reasons for setting the organisation up etc.
They said that our group sounded different from "US storm chasers", they
said they just hoon around for the thrill of the chase, etc, and when i
said that our group is not like that, that our main aims are to increase
warning times of severe storms, help the BoM in
spotting/confirming/observing severe storms and ultimatly saving
lives/preventing injury and property damage, and that we dont approve storm
chasing an any way as an organisation, but we observe and study
thunderstorms for the safety of everyone, she seemed a little shocked, that
we werent like the Americans, as i think that is what she was expecting me
to be like.

I got the hint they were after video footage of lightning from the storm,
and when i told them that the video camera was playing up, their  jaws hit
the table ! and they said "we dont want to hear about it" I reffered them
to Michael Thompson saying he had a couple of minutes of spectacular
footage of the storm down south before it got dark, so MT expect a phone
call from "Katrina" you might make a few bucks out of it. They were also
going to the Katron lightning data place to check that out... I gave them
my newspaper articles and a video with taped News reports from each station
and they promised to return it. I told them i wanted a copy of the whole
show once it was completed and they said they would send me out a copy!
(This will be the property of ASWA when i get it, a donation to a worthy
cause:)

Overall it was an interesting experience,they recorded part of the
interview on a voice recorder, but no "video" interveiw. They are comming
back to Sydney next week to do video shoots, (of what i dont know)

Anyway thats about it

I came home and taxi drivers told me there life stories to and from the
city, and here i am now :)

Any questions/thoughts please let me know

Matthew Smith

ASWA Committee Member

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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: BoM Observations
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 22:52:51 +1000
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Hi all,

Does anyone archive the BoM NSW 9AM obs, or just have a copy from Sunday
morning (16/5)? My old man (sorry fathers) wants to compare the figures
with another time a few years ago when there were also severe frosts. Being
a Grape Grower he follows that particular aspect of weather almost as
keenly as we follow all of it.

Anyone?? 

--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
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From: "GLENDA & ARTHUR JOHN" [glenda_arthur at spiderweb.com.au]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:48:47 +1000
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Hello to everyone - I've just subscribed to this list and hope to learn from
it all.  The weather fascinates and never ceases to interest me.  One aspect
I follow closely (and recently published a book on) is the way animal/plant
life react or behave prior to changes in the weather.  Anyone else
interested in this?
Glenda John

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