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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Barometric Tide 002 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] SA rain record + forecasting woes 003 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject) 004 "Craig Williams" [tincra at ecn.net.au] Barometric Tide 005 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] State of Origin Wx 006 "Craig Williams" [tincra at ecn.net.au] New tornado scale??? 007 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] New tornado scale??? 008 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] State of Origin Wx 009 Kevin Burrows [k.burrows at bom.gov.au] SA rain record + forecasting woes 010 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] New tornado scale??? 011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. A Basic Problem for the Bureau 012 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) SA rain record + forecasting woes 013 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Barometric Tide 014 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] SA rain record + forecasting woes 015 "Tim Homewood" [wonton at bigpond.com] More free info from the US 016 vortex at wwdg.com Severe Wx off Mt. Gambier at the moment 017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Severe Wx off Mt. Gambier at the moment 018 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] SA rain record + forecasting woes 019 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Barometric Tide 020 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Severe squall warning for Melbourne - but you'd never know i 021 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Strahan Tasmania 022 Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com] A Basic Problem for the Bureau 023 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Swell is up and sea fog 024 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] State of Origin Wx 025 peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Squall line 026 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au New tornado scale??? 027 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] State of Origin Wx 028 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] New tornado scale??? 029 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Swell is up and sea fog -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Barometric Tide Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:26:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----Original Message----- From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Date: Tuesday, 25 May 1999 1:52 PM Subject: aus-wx: Barometric Tide >What I would like to know is what effect does lower air pressure have on >producing a high tide? Most low pressure systems would not produce a air >pressure below 990hpa how much of a rise would that cause? > >Chas >Strahan Tasmania Hi Chas, SFA I would expect. Think how much the height of a column of water in a glass tube would rise and fall in response to changes in atmospheric pressure - same story. Still, is a common misconception - many in NQ erroneously think the low pressure of a cyclone contributes to the height of an accompanying storm surge! Take care, Bill Proserpine. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 002 X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 07:38:47 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA rain record + forecasting woes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, In the 24hrs up til 9.00am yesterday (Tues) morning, Uraidla (in the Adelaide hills) received 98.4mm. This is certainly a May 24hr all time record for this site, and might be a 24hr May record for any station in the state. I'd hate to see the 3 day totals - over 150mm methinks... As far as the discussion re 5-7 day forecasts is concerned. Surely the most important thing the Bom can do is improve its response and warning times for fast developing situations (ie April 14). This is likely to be far more benificial to most people (except possibly farmers) than knowing what the weather's going to be in a weeks time..... My 0.02c worth... Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 003 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:14:22 -0812 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Forecasting problems From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair Perhaps we could all chip in and buy it. Should be a bargain. > > Blair Trewin > > (who is hoping that the proposed stockmarket float of the NZ > MetService is a spectacular flop so that no-one here gets any ideas) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 004 From: "Craig Williams" [tincra at ecn.net.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Barometric Tide Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:19:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bill, I am not to sure if that is altogether true...from my understanding of hydraulics, when a fluid is placed under pressure at one point then it automatically moves to the area of lower pressure causing a rise in height at that point...the actual low pressure doesn't cause it to rise itself but the high pressure does....also the lower the pressure in one area would cause the are of high to have greater effect. It is the same priciple that we use in drinking through a straw....we lower the pressure in our mouths and the atmospheric pressure does all the work and pushes the fluid up the straw for us....so if we look at the planet as a glass of water and low pressure systems as someone with a straw then I would say there would be an effect. Looking at the colomn of water in a tube wouldn't be a true representation because you don't have the higher pressure areas working for you to force the fluid up. I recall my physics teacher saying that there is no such thing as suction, only a lowering of pressure. Definately food for thought...and as to how much the rise and fall would be is a tricky one that now intrigues me....time for some study I believe! Cheers....Craig Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: W.A. (Bill) Webb [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 7:26 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Barometric Tide > Hi Chas, > > SFA I would expect. Think how much the height of a column of water in a > glass tube would rise and fall in response to changes in atmospheric > pressure - same story. > > Still, is a common misconception - many in NQ erroneously think the low > pressure of a cyclone contributes to the height of an accompanying storm > surge! > > Take care, > Bill > Proserpine. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 005 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:21:12 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: State of Origin Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane (QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) here.. Yeah Anthony, i think those in NSW (Sydney particularly) can expect some footballer size hail sometime on Thursday? Cause they'll be falling from the sky after we kick their backsides out of the football stadium.. QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please god let us win.. hehe Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > Hi all! > > Well...it looks like we could be in for some thunderies > tomorrow....hmmm.....thunderies/State of Origin.....thunderies/State of > Origin........this is a toughy! As long as there's no thunderies on > Lang Park, that'll be ok :) > > Some possible storms way out west tonight (near Gondonwindi) I'm > certainly hoping they'll happen...LI's will be marginally negaitve (-2 > is the lowest) tomorrow, but the NE winds + beloved border ranges should > hopefully help...at 06z, AVN has a weakish line of > convergence/confluence to our SW, perhaps a little further SW then I'd > like it, but at least it's there! > > Providing the models are right and from my judgement, I'm not expecting > anything major, scattered thunderies though should be a good > possibility. > > Meanwhile...GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Providing as NSW has 13 guys instead of 14, we should do some major at __ > kicking :-) > > Anthony 'QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' Cornelius > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 006 From: "Craig Williams" [tincra at ecn.net.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:24:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Maybe a scale for the Aussie media would be..... B-O: Mini-Tornado B-1: Mini-Tornado B-2: Mini-Tornado B-3: Mini-Tornado B-4: Mini-Tornado B-5: Mini-Tornado Cheers....Craig Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: [vortex at wwdg.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? > Hey All. Found this on WX-Chase > > B-O: "lookit thet dust devil" > B-1: "Gol-dang! lookit thet dust devil" > B-2: "Maw! Come lookit this dust devil" > B-3: "Son! lookit thet dust devil - Close the truck windows" > B-4: "DAMN thet's a bigass dust devil" > B-5: "Lookit thet dust devil - it done got ole Yella. > > Maybe the media is using this scale instead of the Fujita scale??? > > Paul Yole > 2 McDonald Street > Murtoa. Vic. 3390 > Australia > Phone: (035) 385 2699 > Mobile: 0419 367 920 > Email: vortex at wwdg.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 007 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:45:23 +0100 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Personal - ICQ 17296776 - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Craig Williams wrote: > Hi, > Maybe a scale for the Aussie media would be..... > > B-O: Mini-Tornado > B-1: Mini-Tornado > B-2: Mini-Tornado > B-3: Mini-Tornado > B-4: Mini-Tornado > B-5: Mini-Tornado > *OR* B-0 Very Rare whirlwind B-1 Very Freak whirlwind B-2 Rare whirlwind B-3 Freak whirlwind B-4 Freak, rare whirlwind B-5 Rare, freak whirlwind (: Les +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 008 X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:11:15 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: State of Origin Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ben Ben Ben Anyone who attends tonights Weatherwatch meeting here in Sydney i think is going to miss the match :( Someone should be shot for putting the meeting on as the same night as the S of O Hope the match goes well Ben! ;) Matt Smith (see everyone at the meeting tonight *sigh*) >Hey Ben from Brisbane (QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) here.. > >Yeah Anthony, i think those in NSW (Sydney particularly) can expect some >footballer size hail sometime on Thursday? Cause they'll be falling from >the sky after we kick their backsides out of the football stadium.. > >QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Please god let us win.. hehe > >Anthony Cornelius wrote: >> >> Hi all! >> >> Well...it looks like we could be in for some thunderies >> tomorrow....hmmm.....thunderies/State of Origin.....thunderies/State of >> Origin........this is a toughy! As long as there's no thunderies on >> Lang Park, that'll be ok :) >> >> Some possible storms way out west tonight (near Gondonwindi) I'm >> certainly hoping they'll happen...LI's will be marginally negaitve (-2 >> is the lowest) tomorrow, but the NE winds + beloved border ranges should >> hopefully help...at 06z, AVN has a weakish line of >> convergence/confluence to our SW, perhaps a little further SW then I'd >> like it, but at least it's there! >> >> Providing the models are right and from my judgement, I'm not expecting >> anything major, scattered thunderies though should be a good >> possibility. >> >> Meanwhile...GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> Providing as NSW has 13 guys instead of 14, we should do some major at __ >> kicking :-) >> >> Anthony 'QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' Cornelius >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 009 X-Sender: kburrows at saserver X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:52:03 +0900 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Kevin Burrows [k.burrows at bom.gov.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA rain record + forecasting woes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:38 26/05/1999 +0930, you wrote: >In the 24hrs up til 9.00am yesterday (Tues) morning, Uraidla (in the >Adelaide hills) received 98.4mm. This is certainly a May 24hr all time >record for this site, and might be a 24hr May record for any station in the >state. I'd hate to see the 3 day totals - over 150mm methinks... > The previous highest one day fall at Uraidla was 88.9mm on 17 May 1898. The three day total to 9am 17 May 1898 was 159.7mm. The three day total to 9am 25 May 1999 at Uraidla was 158.4mm Highest May rainfall for Uraidla is 408.4mm in 1917. To 9am on 25 May 1999 Uraidla has had 251.8mm. Kevin Burrows ********************************************************************* * Kevin Burrows * * * Meteorologist * PO Box 421 * * Climate and Consultative Services * Kent Town * * South Australian Regional Office * South Australia 5071 * * Bureau of Meteorology * * * * Phone: (08) 8366 2691 * * internet: k.burrows at bom.gov.au * Fax: (08) 8366 2693 * ********************************************************************* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 010 From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:27:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hehehe. Very cute. ****************************************** Grant Boyden http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden http://www.2ky.com.au ****************************************** ---------- > From: Craig Williams> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? > Date: Wednesday, 26 May 1999 9:24 > > Hi, > Maybe a scale for the Aussie media would be..... > > B-O: Mini-Tornado > B-1: Mini-Tornado > B-2: Mini-Tornado > B-3: Mini-Tornado > B-4: Mini-Tornado > B-5: Mini-Tornado > > Cheers....Craig Williams > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? > > > > Hey All. Found this on WX-Chase > > > > B-O: "lookit thet dust devil" > > B-1: "Gol-dang! lookit thet dust devil" > > B-2: "Maw! Come lookit this dust devil" > > B-3: "Son! lookit thet dust devil - Close the truck windows" > > B-4: "DAMN thet's a bigass dust devil" > > B-5: "Lookit thet dust devil - it done got ole Yella. > > > > Maybe the media is using this scale instead of the Fujita scale??? > > > > Paul Yole > > 2 McDonald Street > > Murtoa. Vic. 3390 > > Australia > > Phone: (035) 385 2699 > > Mobile: 0419 367 920 > > Email: vortex at wwdg.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 011 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:51:06 +1000 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Basic Problem for the Bureau Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Laurier Williams wrote on Tue, 25 May 1999 09:48:16 GMT: > > > Michael Scollay wrote on Tue, 25 May 1999 17:31:26 +1000 > > > > > ...Merely, that the BoM could benefit greatly by opening > > > its doors initially in a selective manner, then leaving > > > them as wide open as the US NWS when they are more > > > comfortable. Such a policy can only improve media and > > > public perception of their product when it is compared > > > side-by-side with comparable product from orgs like > > > "The Weather Company"... > > On Tue, 25 May 1999 17:48:58 +1000 (EST), Blair Trewin > wrote: > > > There's actually an issue here which goes far beyond the Bureau - > > that of the Government's attitude to its information. The US takes > > the approach that information collected with taxpayers' money is > > public property and should be freely available - US government > > publications are not copyright, for example. It would be nice if > > the Australian government took a similar view, but that's something > > well outside the Bureau's power to determine. > > > Not quite. The executive of the Bureau is at this moment finalising > its Basic Products Set and Secondary Distribution policies... > [ great info snipped ] > > A free society is also a society in which you don't have to be wealthy > to afford the public information generated with public money, or > scared of the legal consequences of using it. That's a really important principle Laurier. I've come around from an ignorant view of intellectual property protection to one where the best product shall hopefully be adopted and easily altered when better products are available. In the former model, eventually there are only losers. In the latter model, there is the potential for lots of winners and consequent sharing of the "wealth" generated. The Federal Government's proposed Internet censorship legislation is one hot case in point. Despite advice to the contrary by US Senators (yesterday's AFR), the fact that the legislation cannot be enforced because of more loopholes than a packet of fruit-loops, they battle-on in spite. We shall see, but this is the result of an endemic Aussie attitude to "overly protect". In making this generalisation, I must also point out that the Internet is one vehicle serving to alter this damaging endemic attitude. When will we all realise that "the data" is probably only 20-40% of the "real" Intellectual Property, if that. The rest is locked inside the heads of people. That's where our real IP investment lies. Thus, an "open data and software" policy can only serve to enhance the intellectual and product results as a consequence. Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 012 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA rain record + forecasting woes Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:02:30 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penman.es.mq.edu.au id LAA11355 On Wed, 26 May 1999 07:38:47 +0930, Phil Bagust wrote: >Hi all, > >In the 24hrs up til 9.00am yesterday (Tues) morning, Uraidla (in the >Adelaide hills) received 98.4mm. This is certainly a May 24hr all time >record for this site, and might be a 24hr May record for any station in the >state. I'd hate to see the 3 day totals - over 150mm methinks... > I haven't done an exhaustive search, but Uraidla's three day total was 158.4, Heathfield 143.6, Mt Lofty summit 140.1 and Lenswood 136.6. Strangely, Mt Barker, usually pretty wet in these conditions, recorded only 61.8 (24.0, 13.8, 24.0). The highest 24 hour totals for May I can find in my database (limited to climatological stations) are: for the Adelaide area (rainfall district 23) 81.5 at Mt Barker and 81.3 at Stirling, and for the whole of SA 181.0 at Waikerie Council. >As far as the discussion re 5-7 day forecasts is concerned. Surely the >most important thing the Bom can do is improve its response and warning >times for fast developing situations (ie April 14). This is likely to be >far more benificial to most people (except possibly farmers) than knowing >what the weather's going to be in a weeks time..... > I think both are important. From a management viewpoint, many weather dependent industries will benefit from pushing the envelope for routine forecasts out to a week, simply because it helps their planning. As you say, this is particularly the case for farmers, but many other industries are now becoming more aware of the usefulness of incorporating weather outlooks and climatology into their risk management strategies -- e.g. energy sales organisations (electricity, gas), tourism industry, ice cream distribution. -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather Links and News http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 013 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Barometric Tide Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:02:28 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by penman.es.mq.edu.au id LAA11360 On Wed, 26 May 1999 07:26:08 +1000, "W.A. (Bill) Webb" wrote: >Still, is a common misconception - many in NQ erroneously think the low >pressure of a cyclone contributes to the height of an accompanying storm >surge! Not a misconception, Bill. Storm surges are one of the most life-threatening aspects of tropical and extra-tropical cyclones, and are caused by (a) the effects of continued wind "piling up" water onto a coastline, (b) the shape of a coastline in funnelling and enhancing the "piling up" effect, and (c) the greater height of the whole body of water due to low atmospheric pressure. It doesn't only happen in tropical cyclones, either. The 1952(?) North Sea surge which caused massive flooding down the east coast of England was due to a deep near-stationary low north of Scotland bringing days of strong northerly winds across the North Sea. The low pressure (around 970hPa on the east coast) together with the wind piling water into the narrowing southern section of the North Sea, resulted in exceptionally high tides, broken sea defences, and breaking waves running many km inlands. -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather Links and News http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 014 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA rain record + forecasting woes To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:25:57 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > On Wed, 26 May 1999 07:38:47 +0930, Phil Bagust > wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >In the 24hrs up til 9.00am yesterday (Tues) morning, Uraidla (in the > >Adelaide hills) received 98.4mm. This is certainly a May 24hr all time > >record for this site, and might be a 24hr May record for any station in the > >state. I'd hate to see the 3 day totals - over 150mm methinks... > > > I haven't done an exhaustive search, but Uraidla's three day total was > 158.4, Heathfield 143.6, Mt Lofty summit 140.1 and Lenswood 136.6. > Strangely, Mt Barker, usually pretty wet in these conditions, recorded > only 61.8 (24.0, 13.8, 24.0). > > The highest 24 hour totals for May I can find in my database (limited > to climatological stations) are: for the Adelaide area (rainfall > district 23) 81.5 at Mt Barker and 81.3 at Stirling, and for the whole > of SA 181.0 at Waikerie Council. Also 197mm on the same day (9 May 1989) at Waikerie (Ramco). This must have been a very isolated event - six sites within a 10km radius of Waikerie topped 100mm, but nowhere outside this radius got more than 15. (Guess what's now going to be the historical event I write up in my column in the next AMOS Bulletin?) Blair Trewin > >As far as the discussion re 5-7 day forecasts is concerned. Surely the > >most important thing the Bom can do is improve its response and warning > >times for fast developing situations (ie April 14). This is likely to be > >far more benificial to most people (except possibly farmers) than knowing > >what the weather's going to be in a weeks time..... > > > I think both are important. From a management viewpoint, many weather > dependent industries will benefit from pushing the envelope for > routine forecasts out to a week, simply because it helps their > planning. As you say, this is particularly the case for farmers, but > many other industries are now becoming more aware of the usefulness of > incorporating weather outlooks and climatology into their risk > management strategies -- e.g. energy sales organisations (electricity, > gas), tourism industry, ice cream distribution. > > > -- > Laurier Williams > Australian Weather Links and News > http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 015 From: "Tim Homewood" [wonton at bigpond.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: More free info from the US Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:45:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com NASA has justed announced a new web site for info on the cosmos. Not strictly a weather site, however it's all connected isn't it? I was particularly amused by the description in the Wired News article (http://www.wired.com/news/news/email/member/technology/story/19859.html) "It's meant for the science-attentive audience," said John Horack, director of science at Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, where the Web site will be maintained. "That's the 10 to 15 percent of the American population really interested in science, but not nerdy enough to sit in front of the Weather Channel all day." !!! The URL: http://HubbleConstant.com The following comment was relevant to the ongoing discussion on public obligations of public bodies. "The site's philosophy is this: Since taxpayers have footed the bill for the information gathering, they should have easy access to the results." I'm interested in public aviation weather info on the Internet. Currently I'm using US software to collect data from the NOAA to provide a graphical representation on a web page of current conditions at Melbourne International Airport. It seems Australian government generally doesn't get the Internet, and I continue to look overseas (the US) for the best public resources available. __Non-technical Weather Report for Elwood, Victoria__ "A light breeze from the north, a little bit cool, grey sky with a few of those small puffy clouds on the horizon. No rain" Cheers, Tim -- won ton soup http://www.wontonsoup.com/ multimedia and web site design tel: +61-3-9531-5021 fax: +61-3-9531-2924 mob: +61-417-570-981 ------------------------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 016 From: vortex at wwdg.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:53:36 -0600 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Severe Wx off Mt. Gambier at the moment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all, Line of showers off the coast near Mt. Gambier at the moment. Looks like Hamilton will possibly get something. Unfortunately, Don't think we'll get anything up around the Horsham area, but keeping my fingers crossed. the bureau has a warning out for the Mt. Gambier area at the moment. IDW16S02 PRIORITY - FOR BROADCAST AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SEVERE WIND ADVICE Bureau of Meteorology Adelaide Issued at 10.20 am on Wednesday, 26/05/99 For people in the Lower South East district. Severe winds gusts are possible with a line of showers moving over the Lower South East between now and midday. Localised damage is possible and people are advised to take precautions, such as to secure loose outside objects. Paul Yole 2 McDonald Street Murtoa. Vic. 3390 Australia Phone: (035) 385 2699 Mobile: 0419 367 920 Email: vortex at wwdg.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 017 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Wx off Mt. Gambier at the moment To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:01:25 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hey all, > > Line of showers off the coast near Mt. Gambier at the moment. Looks like Hamilton will possibly get something. Unfortunately, Don't think we'll get anything up around the Horsham area, but keeping my fingers crossed. the bureau has a warning out for the Mt. Gambier area at the moment. > This is one of the best-defined squall lines I've seen for a while. Worth watching. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 018 X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:50:29 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA rain record + forecasting woes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Highest May rainfall for Uraidla is 408.4mm in 1917. To 9am on 25 May 1999 >Uraidla has had 251.8mm. > >Kevin Burrows Interesting! Damp! Any idea what the synoptic scenario was like back then? (I guess the charts were fairly primitive in those days) Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 019 From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] To: "Aussie Weather Net" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Barometric Tide Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:52:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi again Chas, Laurier, Craig and all Thanks for the explanations. On reflection, a bad choice of words on my part. Craig and Laurier are right of course in their analyses. I guess my comment is related to "degree" of effect on tide/storm surge heights. I recently ran/hosted a series of "Managing for Climate" (QDPI/BoM) workshops for primary producers, and one producer asked the question of the BoM presenter in regard to surges. The answer had some numbers attached to it, which I cannot recall and did not record. The gist of the answer, as I do recall, was "very little effect". So while agreeing entirely with Laurier's points a, b, and c, I see c as the least important. Time for me to do some study too Craig! Bill Proserpine +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 020 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Severe squall warning for Melbourne - but you'd never know it from the radio To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:45:48 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The squall line which has been progressing across Victoria all afternoon is approaching Melbourne. It has reintensified somewhat on the radar, with an area of 10-20 mm/hr near Geelong. We could be in for some fun and games. The warning notes possible winds to 95 km/h. However, you would never know this was happening if you were listening to FM radio in Melbourne. I have been doing some channel-surfing since the warning was issued at 1555 and no FM station has yet mentioned the severe squall warning in their weather reports, 50 minutes later. In the light of the Sydney hailstorm kerfuffle this is a singularly inglorious performance by the media. (The ABC, commendably, broadcast the warning 15 minutes after it was issued, which is the sort of timescale I'd consider reasonable). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 021 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:18:50 +1000 From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Tasmania Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone Just had the cold front pass through at about 4.30pm local time. The wind is now in the southwest at 23 knots with gusts to 33 knots and a gale warning is current for all Tasmanian waters. There was a flash of lightning to the south and we have had 11mm of rain since 9am and one shower a small amount of hail. Snow is forecast for the highest peaks tonight. Chas Strahan Tasmania +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 022 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:33:43 +0100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Basic Problem for the Bureau X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In message <374b61f9.9687041 at smtp.ozemail.com.au>, Laurier Williams writes > > >The tool used to decide whether a Bureau "product" is freely available >or cost recovery is a document known as the Basic Product Set. All >products listed on this document are freely available and may be >freely used (though attribution to the Bureau is required). Everything >not on it is cost recovery. So, for example, hourly AWS observations >may be in the Basic Product Set, but obs more frequently than one hour >may not. Daily "telegraphic" rainfall reports may be in, but monthly >returns from postal rainfall stations may be out. 256km radar may be >in, but 1024km radar may be out. We will know then the document is >publicly available, possibly in a few days time. > > >Unfortunately, wherever the lines in the sand are drawn between Basic >and non-Basic, there will be problems; in particular problems of >equity. This is why the US model, in which there are no lines -- all >data is freely available (possibly at extraction cost), is in the >public domain, and may be discussed, exchanged and used freely -- is >the model we should press hard to adopt. > The Basic/non-Basic split is what is currently used in Europe with each country arbitrarily deciding where the line is drawn, subject to the requirements of WMO Resolution 40. The system has generated a great deal of bad feeling and conflict and there has been a fair bit of legal activity. Sometimes I think the lawyers are the only real winners! Norman. ===================================================================== Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Tel: +44 (0)1494 870220 18 Kings Road Fax: +44 (0)1494 870221 Chalfont St. Giles E-mail: lynagh at dial.pipex.com Buckinghamshire HP8 4HS England ===================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 023 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:06:19 +1000 From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swell is up and sea fog Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For comparative interest, year to date rainfall at North Seven Hills is 429.8 mm which is 92% of the average but for May there have only been 19.4mm which is about the 33rd percentile of May rainfall over 50 years. Michael ,did you get any stationary wave clouds down your way today? Being home with a mild dose of the black plague I thought I could see (partially obscured) some stationary cirrostratus up to about 1 pm that looked to be over the Illawarra.. Michael Thompson wrote: > > The swell on the Illawarra coast has been rising most of the day, presently > 12-15ft from E/NE. Very light but persistent sea fog today, with a light NE > wind at seashore. > > Large NE swells often cause upwelling and colder sea surface temperatures > just inshore. I have seen 17C in the middle of February with a cyclone > swell. I suspect a similar figure at present although I am unable to verify > my gut feeling as the latest Many Hydraulics sea temperature map has cloud > cover near our coast. > > The Illawarra seemed to miss most of the rain ( again ) in the last few days > with less than 5mm at my home, we are actually well short on rainfall for > the year to date ! > > Michael Thompson > http://thunder.simplenet.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 024 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:08:44 +1000 From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: State of Origin Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We will try not to let the Queensland flag flying from the Sydney Harbour Bridge to replace standard BoM wind direction equipment..should you win, of course... Ben Quinn wrote: > > Hey Ben from Brisbane (QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) here.. > > Yeah Anthony, i think those in NSW (Sydney particularly) can expect some > footballer size hail sometime on Thursday? Cause they'll be falling from > the sky after we kick their backsides out of the football stadium.. > > QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Please god let us win.. hehe > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > Hi all! > > > > Well...it looks like we could be in for some thunderies > > tomorrow....hmmm.....thunderies/State of Origin.....thunderies/State of > > Origin........this is a toughy! As long as there's no thunderies on > > Lang Park, that'll be ok :) > > > > Some possible storms way out west tonight (near Gondonwindi) I'm > > certainly hoping they'll happen...LI's will be marginally negaitve (-2 > > is the lowest) tomorrow, but the NE winds + beloved border ranges should > > hopefully help...at 06z, AVN has a weakish line of > > convergence/confluence to our SW, perhaps a little further SW then I'd > > like it, but at least it's there! > > > > Providing the models are right and from my judgement, I'm not expecting > > anything major, scattered thunderies though should be a good > > possibility. > > > > Meanwhile...GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Providing as NSW has 13 guys instead of 14, we should do some major at __ > > kicking :-) > > > > Anthony 'QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' Cornelius > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 025 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:50:06 +1000 From: peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Squall line Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I have tracked the squall line from Geelong to Seymour on radar. Unfortunately, as it interacted with the land north-east of Melbourne, it rapidly disipated - with a 3mm/Hr sprinkle north of Wallan. If anyone wants an animated Gif of the radar sequence as I saved it, please let me know on "aussie-weather" or email me at pmatters at eck.net.au Cheers Peter +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 026 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 20:37:44 +1000 From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com or how about: B-0: weak sort of circular type wind thing B-1: not quite so weak sort of circular type wind thing B-2: a moderate sort of circular type wind thing B-3: an average sort of circular type wind thing B-4: a bit stronger than average sort of circular type wind thing B-5: a sort of circular type wind thing that totally destroyed everything in its path - somewhat similar to those tornado things they get in the USA but it couldn't be one because EVERYONE knows Australia doesn't get them Les Crossan wrote: > Craig Williams wrote: > > > Hi, > > Maybe a scale for the Aussie media would be..... > > > > B-O: Mini-Tornado > > B-1: Mini-Tornado > > B-2: Mini-Tornado > > B-3: Mini-Tornado > > B-4: Mini-Tornado > > B-5: Mini-Tornado > > > > *OR* > > B-0 Very Rare whirlwind > B-1 Very Freak whirlwind > B-2 Rare whirlwind > B-3 Freak whirlwind > B-4 Freak, rare whirlwind > B-5 Rare, freak whirlwind > > (: > > Les > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 027 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:51:16 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: State of Origin Wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 9am Sydney obs: Cloudy, maroon tinge in the sky :-)))) WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Sorry to gloat NSW guys!) but "QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :-))))))))) A very happy "QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Anthony Cornelius :- Keith Barnett wrote: > > We will try not to let the Queensland flag flying from the Sydney > Harbour Bridge to replace standard BoM wind direction equipment..should > you win, of course... > > Ben Quinn wrote: > > > > Hey Ben from Brisbane (QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) here.. > > > > Yeah Anthony, i think those in NSW (Sydney particularly) can expect some > > footballer size hail sometime on Thursday? Cause they'll be falling from > > the sky after we kick their backsides out of the football stadium.. > > > > QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Please god let us win.. hehe > > > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > Well...it looks like we could be in for some thunderies > > > tomorrow....hmmm.....thunderies/State of Origin.....thunderies/State of > > > Origin........this is a toughy! As long as there's no thunderies on > > > Lang Park, that'll be ok :) > > > > > > Some possible storms way out west tonight (near Gondonwindi) I'm > > > certainly hoping they'll happen...LI's will be marginally negaitve (-2 > > > is the lowest) tomorrow, but the NE winds + beloved border ranges should > > > hopefully help...at 06z, AVN has a weakish line of > > > convergence/confluence to our SW, perhaps a little further SW then I'd > > > like it, but at least it's there! > > > > > > Providing the models are right and from my judgement, I'm not expecting > > > anything major, scattered thunderies though should be a good > > > possibility. > > > > > > Meanwhile...GO QUEENSLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Providing as NSW has 13 guys instead of 14, we should do some major at __ > > > kicking :-) > > > > > > Anthony 'QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' Cornelius > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 028 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:38:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Or perhaps our media would prefer -- Bo - Southerly Buster B1 - Whirly Whirly B2 - Willy Willy B2 - Mini Tornado B4 - Mini Cyclone B5 - Small Tornado like funnell. > B-O: Mini-Tornado > B-1: Mini-Tornado > B-2: Mini-Tornado > B-3: Mini-Tornado > B-4: Mini-Tornado > B-5: Mini-Tornado > > Cheers....Craig Williams > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: aus-wx: New tornado scale??? > > > > Hey All. Found this on WX-Chase > > > > B-O: "lookit thet dust devil" > > B-1: "Gol-dang! lookit thet dust devil" > > B-2: "Maw! Come lookit this dust devil" > > B-3: "Son! lookit thet dust devil - Close the truck windows" > > B-4: "DAMN thet's a bigass dust devil" > > B-5: "Lookit thet dust devil - it done got ole Yella. > > > > Maybe the media is using this scale instead of the Fujita scale??? > > > > Paul Yole > > 2 McDonald Street > > Murtoa. Vic. 3390 > > Australia > > Phone: (035) 385 2699 > > Mobile: 0419 367 920 > > Email: vortex at wwdg.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 029 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swell is up and sea fog Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:17:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Unfortunately I was in meetings most of day, in one of those horrible rooms where there are no uncovered windows. There was a light - moderate west wind this morning, but it was dead calm by sunset. The cirrostratus was very thick at sunset. Wave clouds are very common here in winter so I would not be surprised. In regard to rainfall, the last three months decile map at the Bureau show the light blue above average stopping just south of Port Hacking, whilst the map for May so far shows the far south coast of NSW has missed just about everything. Michael > Michael ,did you get any stationary wave clouds down your way today? > Being home with a mild dose of the black plague I thought I could see > (partially obscured) some stationary cirrostratus up to about 1 pm that > looked to be over the Illawarra.. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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Updated: 11 June 1999 |
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