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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Can this be believed?
002 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Media Has Helped
003 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] If you change your email address......
004 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Victorian rain totals
005 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Media Has Helped
006 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Media Has Helped
007 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Media Has Helped
008 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] Hungarian Severe Weather...
009 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Melbourne Weather
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Media Has Helped
011 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Lifted Index in Victoria
012 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] ASWA Photo Comp
013 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Blunders!!! Blunders!!!
014 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Media Has Helped
015 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] The Media Thing
016 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] The Media Thing/Thought Police
017 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] The Media Thing/Thought Police
018 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Can this be believed?
019 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Can this be believed?
020 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] The Media Thing/Thought Police
021 peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Seven day cycle
022 "Rod Aikman" [raikman at hotmail.com] Bendigo rainfall update
023 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Nice satellite loop + Canberra rain
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Can this be believed?
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:13:14 +1000
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NGP is going for a more traditional scenario, with a burst of cold air later
next week. They have a low forming in the Tasman but too far south for NSW,
a rain event for the East Gippsland. But as one other reply said out from 72
hrs and it is just as unlikely as likely.
Michael
> On checking the web site below and looking at the 6 day surface chart
> prediction
> there is a forecast of a 'cutting-off' low forming near Adelaide and
> moving northeast.
> I am a bit skeptical that this will happen but if it does, I think we'll
> get a major cold and wet outbreak over SE Australia (another ECL from a
> different direction!)
> There's also another tropical depression in the Coral Sea.
> Anyone have any thoughts?
> (I looked at this site after GASP (the coloured version) went off the
> air again)
> (I couldn't create a direct link to this so you will need to type it in
> separately.)
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:39:50 +1000
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
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Heya Grant
The day all those poits come true will be the day hell freezes over!
Matt Smith :)
>As a member of the media, I would just like to point out how much the media
>has helped people over the years with regard to weather.
>
>When you take into account these changes the Media has made over the years
>you can well understand that any member that has read the e-mails of late
>would be offended.
>
>
>Please scroll down to read what WE HAVE DONE!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>*******************************************************
>Changes:
>
>The introduction of new terms like Mini Tornado, Northerly change and rainy
>patch that give a far more descriptive analysis of current weather trends.
>
>A genuine commitment to cover and change in weather that may effect the
>cricket.
>
>Exceptionally fast broadcasting of all storm warnings.
>
>The introduction of educational lessons so as those that read the weather
>on air have an understanding of what they are talking about.
>
>A genuine commitment to cover and change in weather that may effect the
>cricket.
>
>A non bias and realistic coverage of major events that are within
>proportion and do not exploit human tragedy .
>
>A genuine commitment to cover and change in weather that may effect the
>cricket.
>
>Live commentary on the track of server storms in all areas of Australia.
>
>A genuine commitment to cover and change in weather that may effect the
>cricket.
>
>Up to date weather reports using pictures that only we can understand to
>make us look smart.(TV)
>
>A genuine commitment to cover and change in weather that may effect the
>cricket.
>
>Spot on forecasts. ( Never made a mistake).
>
>A commitment to stand behind the BOM with all their prodictions.
>
>*******************************************************
>
>One second everyone............
>
>I'll just go and check these facts.........
>
>I'll get back to you......
>
>
>
>******************************************
>Grant Boyden
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>http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
>http://www.2ky.com.au
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: If you change your email address......
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 18:55:35 +1000
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Dear aussie-weather weather people,
If you change your email address, would you drop me a quick email letting me
know the details so that I can keep 'The List' up to date. If you have
changed email address or location etcetcetc and you think I might have
missed it, please check "The List" and let me know.
"The List" address is: http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/the_list.htm
Many thanks,
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Victorian rain totals
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:23:03 +1000
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Rainfall totals for the last 24 hours have been pretty useful in many
areas - with the exceptions of East Gippsland & the far south-west of the
state.
MT GAMBIER 6
CAPE OTWAY 10
AVALON 11
MT BULLER 77
FALLS CREEK 44
SHEPPARTON 32
WANGARATTA 41
MILDURA 19
LA TROBE VALLEY 7
EAST SALE 11
ALBURY-WODONGA 22
GEELONG AP 13
STAWELL 24
BAYSWATER 23
Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Melbourne
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:15:42 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
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>>As a member of the media, I would just like to point out how much the media
>>has helped people over the years with regard to weather.
>Heya Grant
>
>The day all those points come true will be the day hell freezes over!
>
>Matt Smith :)
>
>
Would Hell freezing over classify as a servere weather event??
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:00:26 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Phil Bagust wrote:
>
> Would Hell freezing over classify as a severe weather event??
>
Surely that would only be a "mini-freeze" only worth a passing mention at the
end of the news or on the crossword page...
Les
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:58:42 +1000
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F0: Mini-tornado
F1: Hell Freezing Over
F2: Hell Freezing Over
F3: Hell Freezing Over
F4: Hell Freezing Over
F5: What was that movie called again?
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> From: Les Crossan
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
> Date: Sunday, 30 May 1999 9:00
>
>
>
> Phil Bagust wrote:
>
> >
> > Would Hell freezing over classify as a severe weather event??
> >
>
> Surely that would only be a "mini-freeze" only worth a passing mention
at the
> end of the news or on the crossword page...
>
>
>
> Les
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Subject: aus-wx: Hungarian Severe Weather...
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 19:50:29 PDT
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I recall my satellite meteorology handbook had some NOAA images of severe
storms over Hungary...
The following is from the Hungarian meteorological office:
"In intensity the thunderstorm and tornado on June 21 was exceptional. The
same huge thunderstorm formed several tornados that reached the ground in
Zala and Somogy county (in the area of Torvaj and Sirkeszulus) between 17:15
and 17:45, and between 20:30 and 21:00 in the area of Izsak, Kiskvrvs and
Akaszts. (Tornados are air whirls moving horizontally with 20-100 km/h
velocity, being usually 100-200 m wide with short 10-30 min life period
and extremely strong winds esimated to be around 300-500 km/h. In Hungary
only 2-3 tornados are reported in a decade.) In this case the wind speed was
estimated at 200-250 km/h, and as a consequence, this strong whirling air
destroyed houses, removed roofs and carried furniture away. The path of the
tornados were indicated by destroyed fields and forest patches. At the same
time 20-30 km away from the tornados only 20-30 m/s wind speeds were
observed. This hazard together with the hail caused several millon dollars
damage. Fortunately no human lives were lost. "
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Weather
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:44:05 +1000
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Hi All,
After some very welcome rain around the state it looks as though we might
get some very welcome thunderstorms (if we are lucky).
Forecast for Melbourne Issued at 1050 on Sunday the 30th of May 1999
Mainly fine until a few showers develop late today with the risk of a
thunderstorm. Fresh northerly wind ahead of a gusty west to southwest
change
tonight.
Max 18C
The soundings are pretty good for late May. LI's are 0 to -2 this
afternoon and there are cells on the SW coast.
I'm starting to feel ill (i have to work tonight) - its a storm related
illness - can'tmissastormitis.
Hopeful Melbournian
Andrew McDonald.
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:13:14 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
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Hi Jimmy here,
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS E_MAIL. THANKYOU.
I think we / I have had enough of these e-mails for now. Let's get into
something more constructive please. I can't see the harm in joking around
but as one can see in the past, e-mails can be interpretted in so many
different ways that ambiguous meanings can lead to people thinking the
wrong thing. Personally, I will give my opinion in the most constructive
manner before I press the SEND button as people have various opinions. The
original message often begins positively but it can get very twisted such
that people get offended. I know people believe the list is for offering
your own opinions and that is fine but I know some would not say the same
things in person! Remember, there really should not be any enemies on the
list as we all have a common interest.
I know during the winter months, some of the weather in particularly Sydney
and Brisbane may get a little less interesting but patience is the game. So
find something interesting from what is there and things will happen
eventually. I think if there were supercells, there won't be too much time
for these sorts of messages.
This leads me to another point. In light of what the Sydney group has done,
I would really suggest that people in other states undertake video nights,
go out to movies and so on so that you meet each other from a different
perspective separate from the meetings. This should happen every couple of
weeks. This is particularly the case during winter or during times when
action is scarce. Other things that can be done is developing new ideas as
to how we can improve things on the list or with ASWA. There are so many
different talents within the group that I think there are ideas out there
waiting to happen. So go for it and you can take charge of that idea either
on your own or in conjunction with someone.
To make this a weather related e-mail, we had light rain this morning which
has cleared to the SE but the cloud developing in the NW jet has persisted.
It was also very mild this morning about 17C as a minimum at least that is
what it was early this morning.
Cheers and thanks for listening if you got down this far.
And by the way, I will be going on the great chase. I am not sure who I told.
Jimmy Deguara
At 11:58 30/05/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>F0: Mini-tornado
>F1: Hell Freezing Over
>F2: Hell Freezing Over
>F3: Hell Freezing Over
>F4: Hell Freezing Over
>F5: What was that movie called again?
>
>
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>> From: Les Crossan
>> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
>> Date: Sunday, 30 May 1999 9:00
>>
>>
>>
>> Phil Bagust wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Would Hell freezing over classify as a severe weather event??
>> >
>>
>> Surely that would only be a "mini-freeze" only worth a passing mention
>at the
>> end of the news or on the crossword page...
>>
>>
>>
>> Les
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:43:24 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Lifted Index in Victoria
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Hey everyone,
Jimmy here. The Lifted Index in Victoria looks promising for thunderstorms
so we will see what happens. There is also a trough line coming through.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:14:20 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Photo Comp
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Hi all,
This is a reminder to those of you who have not voted in the
current May ASWA Inc. photo competition to please do so.
The voting on this month closes at 10pm (Western Australian
time) tomorrow night.
The url to vote at is
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/
Just be patient as it will take 50 seconds to fully
download.
Best of voting to you all
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:08:39 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Blunders!!! Blunders!!!
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Hi there
Yepp you guessed it - Jimmy here
As you all already know, we had the AMOS weatherwatch meeting last week. We
have already heard of the great time that was had but as you all know not
everything goes according to plan.
Well Paul Graham gave his maiden speech and that was excellent. He did very
well. He also brought enough food and so on to feed the Serbian Army!!! But
he forgot the sugar. My thought was that I could distill the coke to get
the sugar out of it!!!.
Now Paul, you thought you were safe but that goes down as a blunder with
the mothes on the windscreen and so on...
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:04:48 +1000
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Media Has Helped
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Hi All,
I know Jimmy has asked that we not reply to this post anymore, but I do
have a genuine question about this message. I was under the impression from
reading posts on this list that the term "mini-tornado" was a term not
highly regarded - and in fact there have been a number of times the media
has reported "mini-tornadoes" when in fact they were either micro bursts or
actual true-blue tornadoes.
What is, in fact, the general consensus on the term "mini-tornado"?
Chris.
At 20:01 29/05/99 , you wrote:
>As a member of the media, I would just like to point out how much the media
>has helped people over the years with regard to weather.
>The introduction of new terms like Mini Tornado,
Chris Maunder (Canberra)
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/2473/
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: The Media Thing
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:30:59 +1000
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Hi all,
I do agree with Jimmy that there was potential for members or readers of
the list to be offended with our jokes, and rightly so. I think we may well
have over done that one (but that damn cold front just wouldn't spawn a
storm!! hehe).
However, to reply to Chris' email, the term 'mini-tornado' is indeed a
description of a non-existant phenomona and I believe an oxy-moron! Maybe
(and I propose this to the whole of the ASWA before suggesting anyone
bothers doing it) the AWSA should be behaving as a watchdog on media
reports and making damn sure that the people who are responsible for
reporting/editing stories on weather know exactly what the Fujita scale is
and exactly what a down-burst is and not ill-informing the public when such
thing occur. Wouldn't this be one of our duties as an association?
I have no doubt that there are many media personel out there who know
enough about these things to report them properly but we all know (and have
seen) that there are also many that don't, and the general public are the
worse off for it all.
Any thoughts??
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Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW.
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Hi every1,
I hate buying in to these ones but...
1. A list is a list is a list....if the FREE exchange of views (no matter
how different, bizarre or misinformed) is not allowed on #weather then count
me OUT! I'm not talking about abusive or tiradical (is that a word?) but
much of the joy on this list for me has been the fun that occasionally
arises from our interchanges! (Not to mention the amount I've learned!)
2. If we start having to suck up to other "interests" maybe we're no better
than those "interests" themselves.
3. I love the list. Don't OVER-regulate it!
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Kevin (and the people on the list),
You didn't have to buy into this one as I told people not to.
To tell you the truth, it is often very hard for me to have to try and
regulate what is being said before things get out of hand. I don't mind the
odd joke as people who know me can vouch for that. But when I get
complaints or when I feel things have gone too far, I feel it is better to
remind people of this. As I said, ambiguity is the biggest problem and some
things tend to go on too long that people are joining at various times
under a different meaning. If you want to joke around like in this
situation then this is what ICQ chat or the other chat has its advantage.
We, the state reps and comittee have decided that anything on the list
should be regulated. It is being logged and represents one of the
activities of ASWA.
It is very difficult to have a list of often shy and intelligent people
without someone getting offended. So this was an attempt to regulate not
stop the jokes.
I don't think that being negative to a third party such as the media or the
BoM is a joke and is not in the true interests of most on this list. But
again, we cannot satisfy everybody...
Jimmy Deguara
At 00:45 30/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi every1,
>
>I hate buying in to these ones but...
>
>1. A list is a list is a list....if the FREE exchange of views (no matter
>how different, bizarre or misinformed) is not allowed on #weather then count
>me OUT! I'm not talking about abusive or tiradical (is that a word?) but
>much of the joy on this list for me has been the fun that occasionally
>arises from our interchanges! (Not to mention the amount I've learned!)
>
>2. If we start having to suck up to other "interests" maybe we're no better
>than those "interests" themselves.
>
>3. I love the list. Don't OVER-regulate it!
>
>Kevin from (damp) Wycheproof.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 18:37:15 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Oh well, to coin a phrase from Bob Dylan (no, I'm not a fan of his)..
'Oh when will the clouds ever rain?'
That forecast map I referred to so much reminded me of the charts of
September 1995
when the low formed on the cold front and moved northeast ,then
southeast right over Sydney giving 132 mm in 24 hours here.
Now I notice it's going for the standard low pressure near Bass
Strait,as you said Michael, too far south for NSW.
I feel like a squawking 7 year old when I feel like saying 'I wanna east
coast low!'But I guess there are people who've had more than a gutful of
them this year, with all the flooding they often bring.
I was still surprised by how far north they forecast the 540 height
would go.As Ben said in another reply the thing was obviously wildly off
course.
So I'm still hoping June will live up to its reputation of bringing
heavy rain to Sydney..for me a clear indication of this is when a cold
pool centres over the upper western district of NSW especially Cobar.And
with only 37mm here this month (50% of the 50-year average) June is
almost sure to be wetter..but the question is, by how much....?
(This is one way of ventilating frustration with these dry, depressing
westerlies although I can't complain about the warm temperatures..today
was the warmest day for the last 5 days of May here since 1982..)
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> NGP is going for a more traditional scenario, with a burst of cold air later
> next week. They have a low forming in the Tasman but too far south for NSW,
> a rain event for the East Gippsland. But as one other reply said out from 72
> hrs and it is just as unlikely as likely.
>
> Michael
>
> > On checking the web site below and looking at the 6 day surface chart
> > prediction
> > there is a forecast of a 'cutting-off' low forming near Adelaide and
> > moving northeast.
> > I am a bit skeptical that this will happen but if it does, I think we'll
> > get a major cold and wet outbreak over SE Australia (another ECL from a
> > different direction!)
> > There's also another tropical depression in the Coral Sea.
> > Anyone have any thoughts?
> > (I looked at this site after GASP (the coloured version) went off the
> > air again)
> > (I couldn't create a direct link to this so you will need to type it in
> > separately.)
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 19:18:53 +1000
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That 37mm is a lot more than I have had this May, in fact we are well below
average, even back in Feb - Mar the rain was stopping at Sydney or the
Hunter.
I am now watering the grass every second day, admit I have a rather poor
front lawn competing with several palms and mature gum trees.
Large area of rain just west of the Illawarra tonight, the animated loop
seem to indicate it dies just west of the escarpment. Sort of a rain shadow
affect.
Michael
> So I'm still hoping June will live up to its reputation of bringing
> heavy rain to Sydney..for me a clear indication of this is when a cold
> pool centres over the upper western district of NSW especially Cobar.And
> with only 37mm here this month (50% of the 50-year average) June is
> almost sure to be wetter..but the question is, by how much....?
> (This is one way of ventilating frustration with these dry, depressing
> westerlies although I can't complain about the warm temperatures..today
> was the warmest day for the last 5 days of May here since 1982..)
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:30:03 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Kevin, Jimmy et al...
Maybe I shouldn't buy into this one either but I believe that we should
not lose sight of the fact that the Aussie-Weather list exists and that
the ASWA grew out of that - and really, they are two separate, even if
interlocking identities and in no way what so ever does the ASWA have
any ownership or responsibility of what goes on "Aussie Weather".
As one involved in the media, I know that it is so thick skinned that
nothing anyone could dream up could ever offend it.... and I am beginnig
to believe that the Bureau too needs to be reminded that it is a public
service, funded entirely by the Austrlaian taxpayers so in a way, we all
should share ownership and therefore have the right to comment.
So, I believe that the Bureau, the media, ASWA or anyone else has no
right to try and restrict what any individual contributor to the Aussie
Weather list might want to sat..... it is the users of the Internet who
have to develop the skills of filtering information and being
sophisocated enough to realise what is fun, what is serious and what is
tongue-in-cheek.
cheers,
Don White
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Kevin (and the people on the list),
>
> You didn't have to buy into this one as I told people not to.
>
> To tell you the truth, it is often very hard for me to have to try and
> regulate what is being said before things get out of hand. I don't mind the
> odd joke as people who know me can vouch for that. But when I get
> complaints or when I feel things have gone too far, I feel it is better to
> remind people of this. As I said, ambiguity is the biggest problem and some
> things tend to go on too long that people are joining at various times
> under a different meaning. If you want to joke around like in this
> situation then this is what ICQ chat or the other chat has its advantage.
> We, the state reps and comittee have decided that anything on the list
> should be regulated. It is being logged and represents one of the
> activities of ASWA.
>
> It is very difficult to have a list of often shy and intelligent people
> without someone getting offended. So this was an attempt to regulate not
> stop the jokes.
>
> I don't think that being negative to a third party such as the media or the
> BoM is a joke and is not in the true interests of most on this list. But
> again, we cannot satisfy everybody...
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 00:45 30/05/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi every1,
> >
> >I hate buying in to these ones but...
> >
> >1. A list is a list is a list....if the FREE exchange of views (no matter
> >how different, bizarre or misinformed) is not allowed on #weather then count
> >me OUT! I'm not talking about abusive or tiradical (is that a word?) but
> >much of the joy on this list for me has been the fun that occasionally
> >arises from our interchanges! (Not to mention the amount I've learned!)
> >
> >2. If we start having to suck up to other "interests" maybe we're no better
> >than those "interests" themselves.
> >
> >3. I love the list. Don't OVER-regulate it!
> >
> >Kevin from (damp) Wycheproof.
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:38:55 +1000
From: peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]
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Hi All,
>From my humble weather observations of thirty years, for SE
Australia(mainly Southern Victoria/All Tasmania), at this time of year
the weather approximately follows seven day cycles. Interestingly, the
NZ/Aussie prognosis appear to support this. Any comment?
ps: From where are the LI, CAPE & other data obtained?
Cheers Peter(didjman)
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Hi everyone,
This is an update of my rainfall figures up to 21:00 EST Sunday.
24 hrs to 09:00 29/5. 3.8 mm
24 hrs to 09:00 30/5. 45.2 mm
09:00 to 21:00 30/5. 3.2 mm
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Total for this rain event: 52.2 mm
Rod Aikman
Bendigo Vic
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Hi all,
I have just discovered the ABC weather page has a nice
little animated gif of satellite images over the last
20 hours over Australia. The image is quite small and only
shows the substantial middle and higher level cloud areas.
It does however include an hourly image (rather than the JCU's
3 hourly) and loads very quickly so you get a rapid overview.
You can just make out the rain shadow effect Michael T has
been experiencing in this NW cloud band. Any of the animations
at the moment reveal some degree of dissipation of the cloud band
as it moves SE across the Great Dividing Range in NSW/Vic.
The address is: http://www.abc.net.au/news/weather/default.htm
Canberra has had rain periods from around lunch time today (Sunday
30/5) giving 12mm at the airport and 12 in my guage at Higgins (NW
Canberra nearer the Brindabella ranges. Quite often we get more than the
airport in these NW band situations).
At 2200 Eastern Aust Standard Time (EAST), the rain has cleared and
the blue moon is clearly visible through the rapidly moving scud.
I notice from the METARS that at 2100 (EAST) that coastal stations such as
Merimbula and Nowra had received 0 and 1mm respectively.
Patrick
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