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001 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Sol's family
002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Fw: BRIEFING ON NEW OCEAN WINDS SATELLITE SET FOR JUNE 3
003 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] European Severe Weather
004 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] District boundaries
005 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] Banner For Home Page
006 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Hail Footage
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] SOI on the ABC
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Glenda & computer life...
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
010 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
013 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] SOI on the ABC
014 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au SOI on the ABC
015 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] SOI on the ABC
016 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] SOI on the ABC
017 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au SOI on the ABC
018 Kevin Burrows [k.burrows at bom.gov.au] SOI on the ABC
019 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Max/Min thermometers
020 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] SOI on the ABC
021 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Hail Footage
022 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Updates to my non-storm photos
023 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] Community Service Announcements for ASWA
024 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Second warmest May ever in NZ
025 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Sol's family
026 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Sol's family
027 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Interesting weather for NSW
028 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] SOI on the ABC
029 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] SOI on the ABC
030 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
031 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Sol's family
032 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Sol's family
033 Rod Aikman [raikman at hotmail.com] Early Photographs of Tornadoes in Australia
034 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au] Interesting weather for NSW
035 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Hail Footage
036 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Second warmest May ever in NZ
037 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Community Service Announcements for ASWA
038 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
039 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Max/Min thermometers
040 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
041 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Community Service Announcements for ASWA
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001
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:48:10 +1000
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Ahh.. your measurements are with reference to the ecliptic plane; mine are in
reference to the individual planet's orbital plane.
And to make it weather-related... er... yes there's weather outside ;)
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
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Date: Wednesday, 2 June 1999 16:53
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
>
>Actually pluto and charon rotate on axes that are tilted at 122.6 degrees
>to the verticle, and it's the least upright planet in the solar system
>
>
>At 02:25 6/2/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>>> I think it's Uranus! (definitely no pun intended!) :)
>>>> 98 deg. axial tilt, I believe.
>>
>>>And I think U-Ranus rotates vertically, doesn't it? So the weather would
>>>move from south to north?
>>
>>
>>That's what an axial tilt of 90� means!
>>
>>Pluto's is 118�! Wouldn't want to live out there though, it's not the
>obliquity
>>that worries me, it'd be colder than Ballarat!
>>
>>Marty.
>>Brisbane, Australia
>>martyp at dynamite.com.au
>>Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
>>Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
>>ICQ: 11790565
>>
>>>
>>>Kevin Phyland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Michael!
>>>>
>>>> >5) Earth's axis of tilt is also not too extreme. Just think
>>>> >what it would be like if we rolled around our orbit like
>>>> >Neptune (?).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>>>>
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: BRIEFING ON NEW OCEAN WINDS SATELLITE SET FOR JUNE 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:52:41 +1000
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Thought this may be of interest. Hopefully we'll get the results of the
briefing.
>BRIEFING ON NEW OCEAN WINDS SATELLITE SET FOR JUNE 3
>
> The Quick Scatterometer (Quikscat), NASA's next "El Nino"-
>watcher, will be launched from California's Vandenberg Air Force
>Base at 10:15 p.m. EDT on June 18. This satellite, built in just
>over 12 months -- a record for NASA's Office of Earth Science --
>will be used to better understand global weather patterns.
>
> On Thursday, June 3, at 1 p.m. EDT, mission experts will discuss the
>upcoming launch of the satellite, its scientific objectives and
>the benefits Quikscat will provide. The briefing will take place
>in the James Webb Memorial Auditorium at NASA Headquarters, 300 E
>St. SW, Washington, DC. Participants will be:
>
> *Dr. Ghassem Asrar, Associate Administrator for Earth
>Sciences, NASA Headquarters
> *Gregory Withee, Assistant Administrator for Satellite and
>Information Services, National Oceanic and Atmospheric
>Administration (NOAA), Washington, DC
> *Dr. Eric Lindstrom, Oceanography Program Scientist, NASA
>Headquarters
> *James Graf, Quikscat Project Manager, Jet Propulsion
>Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
> *Dr. Michael Freilich, Quikscat Team Leader, Oregon State
>University, Corvallis
>
> The SeaWinds instrument aboard Quikscat will provide
>climatologists, meteorologists, and oceanographers daily, detailed
>measurements of winds as they swirl above the world's oceans,
>helping to greatly improve weather forecasting.
>
> The briefing will be carried live on NASA Television, with
>question-and-answer capability from participating NASA centers.
>NASA Television is available on transponder 9C of the GE-2
>satellite at 85 degrees West longitude, vertical polarization,
>frequency 3880 MHz, audio of 6.8 MHz.
>
> -end-
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:52:00 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
Organization: Personal - ICQ 17296776 - note all times in GMT
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dear list -
It's been a pretty nasty day in Britain with torrential rain, funnel
clouds and hail. This is the second episode of a humid low coming north
from Biscay (Spain) in two weeks!!!
More please.
See for yourselves at:
http://www.chmi.cz/meteo/sat/NOAA/prod/
(NOAA satpics)
Les
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: District boundaries
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:15:44 +1000
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Morning All,
Just reading the mail on the boundaries in NSW jogged my memory of when I
did my work experience at the Melbourne BoM in 1995 - I was fortunate
enough to be in the right place at the right time and I actually drew the
revised (in 1996) district boundaries for Victoria. I was basically told
to follow main roads so districts could be easily defined (ie people on
that side are central and the other side north central) and where roads
were not applicable I followed rivers.
Cold morning in the outer suburbs this morning. Probably about 2C, no
clouds - looks to be a nice day.
Andrew McDonald
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005
From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Banner For Home Page
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:07:41 +1000
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Does anyone have a ad banner for ASWA that I can put on my home page as a
link.
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http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
http://www.2ky.com.au
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 08:45:27 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Hi All,
Can anyone help this person on the request that I received
by email last night.
If you are interested, can you email me at
mike at strikeone.com.au
and I will give you his email address.
Below is the request.
>i'm looking for hail footage. specifically of the sydney
hailstorm
>14APR99, but will be interested in any hail...
>any available?
>Jeff Topham
>Storm Warning! / Discovery Channel
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Strike One Lightning Photos
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:33:48 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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The ABC indicated the SOI was negative for the first time in 12 months,
(i think) . Does anyone have any reflections on such a reading and how
it might impact on the snow season in Australia?
Can a negative reading mean less chance of snow?
Are their indeed records to show seasonal snowfalls and how they
correlate with the SOI of a given year? I'm interested to compare these
things.
Thanks,
Lindsay Pearce.
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:10:40 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks John,
I appreciate your thoughts and experiences.
Lindsay Pearce
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Hi Glenda,
>
> I used to live on the South side of a wet & cold gully at Hornsby in a
> dense Bush situation - no sun in winter lots of damp, moss & mould. In
> fact, after rain, it was not uncommon to find Leaches on the back deck, the
> boards of which would rot through in around 2 years. I found that I had
> huge problems with Hard Disk drives - they really object to condensing
> atmospheres and irregular use. I literally have a carton full of dead hard
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:32:15 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks John,
I just rang up National Parks and Wildlife here in Blackheath and their
weather station (worth thousands of dollars more than mine) gave me a
reading of 11.8 degrees at 4:30pm. My min/max had 11.5 and my wet bulb
and thermometer combo had 12. So, I am presuming these reasonably cheap
instruments are accurate enough for home records, I guess? The NPWS
station is about 500 metres from my place so I reason that its a
reasonable representation of my area too, same alitude and similar
surrounds. Would that be fair to say? I've also found that tipping this
max/min thermom. upside down and "draining" it after the morning min and
again after the afternoon max, helps with the sliders. Also, my readings
on both the max and min side are virutally indenticle, at least to the
naked eye. Lucky me i guess. I bought the max/min from a local hardware
store and the wetbulb from a weather instruments place in Sydney. Let me
know how all this sounds to you, or any other folk. I in no way presume
to be an authority on such things.
Kind Regards,
Lindsay Pearce
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Hi Lindsay,
>
> The sliders are made of a magnetic material. A small magnet or magnetic
> strip is attached to the button, such that it adds sufficient friction to
> slider movement to stop them from falling. When you push in the button the
> strip is pushed away and the sliders can move more easily.
>
> This whole mechanism is not very robust and rather delicately balanced.
> Vibration or poor construction can result in the sliders moving when they
> shouldn't - or worse, not moving when they should, resulting in them
> drowning in the Mercury column (Very difficult to fix).
>
> I have tried several of the cheaper variety (after having first calibrated
> them against a digital thermometer for accuracy - most of them are anything
> up to a couple of degrees out) and typically the min column reading does
> not exactly match the max column reading at any given temperature - again
> highlighting their inaccuracy.
>
> Better quality max/min thermometers use the opposite approach. You have
> small hand held magnet to drag the sliders down to reset them. These days
> I think a digital electronic thermometer with outside sensor is probably
> the way to go if you can afford it - I'd be curious as to what the BoM
> thinks of this.
>
> John.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:43:33 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Keith! What a smart idea!
You're a champion! Why didn't I think of that. Multiple heads are always
better than one when it comes to good ideas.
I like that saying. "The difference between a wise person and a foolish
person is that the wise person knows how foolish they are." It applies
to learning about the weather and I certainly have much to learn about
such things and mind you, I'm not afraid to ask.
Thanks again,
Lindsay P.
PS: They shoulda included that above saying in the bible. Maybe it was
in the original, in Aramaic or Hebrew. ;-)
Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> I haven't seen a push button one Lindsay but with the BoM standard one I
> use (it's like a giant doctor's thermometer you shake down every day) I
> mount it almost horizontally (in a Stevenson screen), the bulb slightly
> lower than the other end. You might minimise the slipping marker if you
> can do this with your one.
> Hope this helps...
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a max/min thermometer problem.
> >
> > The marker keeps sliding down on the maximum side, so it is hard to get
> > an accurate reading. It's one of those push button ones, that you reset
> > daily. When I turn it upside down and let the markers "Drain" to the top
> > of the thermometer and then release them, it seems to help somewhat but
> > the problem seems to persist. What is the process involved in these
> > thermometers? How do they work?
> >
> > Does anyone know of places that I can purchase a moderately priced
> > max/min thermometer if this one ends up being stuffed?
> >
> > Also, apologies if I haven't got back to anyone that has emailed me. As
> > I said, I've been out of action for two weeks.
> >
> > Lindsay Pearce
> >
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:37:43 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Kevin, i appreciate your time.
Where and how can i purchase one of these thermometers, ie: the seperate
ones for max and min temps. Good enough for my records, at least for
now. :-)
Lindsay Pearce
PS: I have a home made stevenson screen whose daily temps favour well
with the NPWS station here in Blackheath.
Kevin Burrows wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> At 13:53 1/06/1999 +1000, John wrote:
> >Hi Lindsay,
> >
>
> >Better quality max/min thermometers use the opposite approach. You have
> >small hand held magnet to drag the sliders down to reset them. These days
> >I think a digital electronic thermometer with outside sensor is probably
> >the way to go if you can afford it - I'd be curious as to what the BoM
> >thinks of this.
> >
>
> The Bureau of Meteorology uses separate maximum and minimum thermometers.
> The Maximums thermometers are mercury in glass with a small constriction
> that breaks when the temperature falls (just like a medical thermometer).
>
> The minimum thermometers are alcohol in glass with an index that is dragged
> down to indicate the lowest temperature.
>
> The cost of these thermometers are well over $100 each and meet an
> Australian Standard for meteorological thermometers.
>
> Thermometers are located in a Stevenson Screen designed to shade the
> thermometer from direct and reflected sunshine, but allow a free flow of
> air through the screen so that the thermometers can measure air temperature.
>
> The thermometer you are talking about is a Six's pattern thermometer
> designed by a Mr J Six. As has been previously mentioned they are not as
> accurate as the individual thermometers.
>
> In addition to glass thermometers that need to be read by humans the BOM
> uses platinum resistance thermometers in automatic weather stations.
>
> Kevin Burrows
>
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:47:23 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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John,
Yes I have seen such software packages from Davis Instruments here in
Sydney, from their agent that is, he is in Castle Hill, I think. Dick
Smith has many digital thermometers of all types, from about 19 dollars
up to about 300. You can buy their catologue for two bucks.
Lindsay P.
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Hi Kevin.
>
> Yes, I had assumed the 'official' max/min thermometers would be
> ludicrously expensive and moreover, I have no idea where to get them.
> However, I do believe that it is possible to buy reasonably accurate
> digital electronic thermometers (+-0.2C) from places like Australian
> Geographic/Disk Smith Electronics at reasonable price (<$100). Please
> correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Normally one keeps the electronics inside, and uses an outdoor probe. The
>
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Noooo! This can not be happening!!! 3 bad ski seasons in a row???!!
Arrggh!
At 11:33 3/06/99 , you wrote:
>The ABC indicated the SOI was negative for the first time in 12 months,
>(i think) . Does anyone have any reflections on such a reading and how
>it might impact on the snow season in Australia?
>
>
>Can a negative reading mean less chance of snow?
>
>
>Are their indeed records to show seasonal snowfalls and how they
>correlate with the SOI of a given year? I'm interested to compare these
>things.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Lindsay Pearce.
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When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points - eg from +
11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I think its
about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last weekend).
So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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>
>
>
> When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points - eg from +
> 11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I think its
> about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last weekend).
>
> So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
The 30-day figure did go negative - briefly - last week. It's back up
to about +2 now. This sort of fluctuation within a month is pretty
commonplace - in this case it owes a lot to the cold surge (and the
high pressures associated with it) at the end of April and beginning
of May - this has now dropped out of the 30-day running mean.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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>
> The ABC indicated the SOI was negative for the first time in 12 months,
> (i think) . Does anyone have any reflections on such a reading and how
> it might impact on the snow season in Australia?
>
>
> Can a negative reading mean less chance of snow?
>
>
> Are their indeed records to show seasonal snowfalls and how they
> correlate with the SOI of a given year? I'm interested to compare these
> things.
>
I don't think it has ever got as far as a paper, but Clem Davis of the
Canberra Met. Office had a piece - in FHM, of all places - on
influences on snowfall - there's also been a bit of back-of-the-
envelope work done here. It seems that a warm eastern Pacific (= El
Nino) is bad for snow (too little precipitation), as is a warm Indian
Ocean (too much rain); the good years tend to be the ones in between
(i.e. the average ones).
(The resorts cope better with a dry winter these days than they did in,
say, 1982, because such conditions are ideal for snowmaking. Not a lot
they can do about warm, rainy winters though).
Blair Trewin
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Sorry to add to your current state of mind Chris... but you also realise that
Canberra has just had it's warmest average maximum for May temperature since
1982.
And we all know what happened in that year!!!
(It was the BIG drought in eastern Australia for those that may know)
Not to worry.. I have just changed jobs and now have a very good view from NW
through SW with excellent views of the Brindabellas through the day. Skis are
ready to roll as soon as I see some white stuff on the ground. And car tyres are
ready to move later in the year as those Cb's start to pile up...
With any luck we are just looking at some short term variations in pressure
systems around Darwin/Tahiti and not the development of a longer term trend.
Although I do recall reading somewhere that some remarkable low altitude snow
falls have occured in El Nino years.
Patrick
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The 30 day SOI to 29 May 1999 was -2 but the SOI Bulletin for May 1999 (see
below) gives the +2. For the Seasonal Climate Outlook which is now based
on SST patterns rather than the SOI so it can be issued earlier see:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/rain_ahead.shtml
SOUTHERN OSCILLATION INDEX BULLETIN
Bureau of Meteorology, Darwin
Issued at 0815 hours on Wednesday, 02/06/99
Darwin mean MSL pressure for May 1999: 1012.1 hPa
Darwin MSL pressure anomaly: plus 1.1 hPa
Tahiti mean MSL pressure for May 1999: 1013.9 hPa
Tahiti MSL pressure anomaly: plus 1.3 hPa
SOI: plus 2
5 month running mean SOI: plus 11 (centred on March)
Darwin mean 0900 MSL pressure for May 1999: 1013.9 hPa
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Max/Min thermometers
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:44:12 +1000
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Hi Lindsay,
I guess you were lucky. My visits to BBC for one of these consisted of
carefully examining the entire batch on sale to pick one which was around
the average reading of all the thermometers in the store & which did have
max/min sides in agreement. I can't imagine there would be too much
variation in air temps over 500 metres unless there was close proximity of
one site to water or a significant difference in elevation. I recall from
my time living in that gully at Hornsby, that just 20m of height made a
significant impact on air temps on cold calm mormings.
John W.
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Thanks John,
I just rang up National Parks and Wildlife here in Blackheath and their
weather station (worth thousands of dollars more than mine) gave me a
reading of 11.8 degrees at 4:30pm. My min/max had 11.5 and my wet bulb
and thermometer combo had 12. So, I am presuming these reasonably cheap
instruments are accurate enough for home records, I guess? The NPWS
station is about 500 metres from my place so I reason that its a
reasonable representation of my area too, same alitude and similar
surrounds. Would that be fair to say? I've also found that tipping this
max/min thermom. upside down and "draining" it after the morning min and
again after the afternoon max, helps with the sliders. Also, my readings
on both the max and min side are virutally indenticle, at least to the
naked eye. Lucky me i guess. I bought the max/min from a local hardware
store and the wetbulb from a weather instruments place in Sydney. Let me
know how all this sounds to you, or any other folk. I in no way presume
to be an authority on such things.
Kind Regards,
Lindsay Pearce
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Hi Lindsay,
>
> The sliders are made of a magnetic material. A small magnet or magnetic
> strip is attached to the button, such that it adds sufficient friction to
> slider movement to stop them from falling. When you push in the button
the
> strip is pushed away and the sliders can move more easily.
>
> This whole mechanism is not very robust and rather delicately balanced.
> Vibration or poor construction can result in the sliders moving when
they
> shouldn't - or worse, not moving when they should, resulting in them
> drowning in the Mercury column (Very difficult to fix).
>
> I have tried several of the cheaper variety (after having first
calibrated
> them against a digital thermometer for accuracy - most of them are
anything
> up to a couple of degrees out) and typically the min column reading does
> not exactly match the max column reading at any given temperature - again
> highlighting their inaccuracy.
>
> Better quality max/min thermometers use the opposite approach. You have
> small hand held magnet to drag the sliders down to reset them. These
days
> I think a digital electronic thermometer with outside sensor is probably
> the way to go if you can afford it - I'd be curious as to what the BoM
> thinks of this.
>
> John.
>
>
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At 14:16 3/06/99 , you wrote:
>
>
>Sorry to add to your current state of mind Chris... but you also realise
that
>Canberra has just had it's warmest average maximum for May temperature since
>1982.
>
>And we all know what happened in that year!!!
Don't remind me.
Oh well - I might be getting a trip to the states in November, so I'll
have 1 week to get my snow fix then.
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I have already been dealing with him for a couple of weeks. They don't want
to pay too much.
Jimmy Deguara
At 08:45 3/06/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Can anyone help this person on the request that I received
>by email last night.
>If you are interested, can you email me at
>mike at strikeone.com.au
>and I will give you his email address.
>
>Below is the request.
>
>>i'm looking for hail footage. specifically of the sydney
>hailstorm
>>14APR99, but will be interested in any hail...
>
>>any available?
>
>>Jeff Topham
>>Storm Warning! / Discovery Channel
>
>--
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Updates to my non-storm photos
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:52:54 +1000
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You may have struck trouble accessing these, has been now fixed.
Michael
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Subject: aus-wx: Updates to my non-storm photos
> About 20 new sunsets added to
>
> http://thunder.simplenet.com/sunset/sunset.htm
>
> Two rainbows ( more to come ) at
>
> http://thunder.simplenet.com/photo/rainbow.htm
>
> and on my unusual and different page. some convecting stratus type cloud
> yes I know that's a contradiction ). This was the day before the yachts
got
> into trouble.
>
> http://thunder.simplenet.com/photo/unusual.htm
>
>
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From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:14:05 +1000
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Hi everyone,
For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign for
the NSW div of ASWA.
Of cause other states have shown interest in the idea and we are working
with them as well.
The media campaign is based around CSA ( Community Service Announcements)
These are FREE ads that give the community some type of education.
We have come up with four ads that will be recorded at 2KY ( If there are
no objections to content) and sent out to radio stations across the country
for air play.
BEFORE YOU READ THEM
Please understand that CSA can not just be a commercial. They have to
provide some type of community content and that's why they have been worded
this way.
I would recommend that we send out all four and let the stations select
which ones they want.
My company G.B.Commentary Production will buy 100 CDs and donate them to
ASWA for this purpose and 2KY will supply all the recording equipment free
of charge.
I don't think I have forgotten anything..... If I have just let me know and
PLEASE feed back is welcome.
**********************************************
Okay here they are.
**********************************************
CSA ONE
(SFX)
VOICE 1
A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
VOICE2
On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
If a storm is coming your way, you can protect yourself by:
Listen to local radio for information.
Shelter and secure pets and animals.
Shelter your vehicle(s) or cover with tarpaulin/blankets.
Disconnect all electrical appliances.
Tape or cover large windows or glass doors.
This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
Weather Association.
VOICE 1
To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
www.severeweather.asn.au
**********************************************
CSA TWO
(SFX)
VOICE 1
A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
VOICE2
On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
When the storm strikes protect yourself by
Stay inside and shelter well clear of windows, in the strongest part of the
house.
If necessary, cover yourself with a mattress, blanket, doona or tarpaulin,
under a table or bench.
If your driving, stop clear of trees, power lines or streams.
and avoid using the telephone during a storm.
This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
Weather Association.
VOICE 1
To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
www.severeweather.asn.au
**********************************************
CSA THREE
(SFX)
On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
which was formed due to the great demand of those who were fascinated with
severe weather.
The aim of ASWA is not only to provide a platform for discussion in severe
weather, but also in research and education.
Any interested in storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
others across the country.
If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
www.severeweather.asn.au
**********************************************
CSA FOUR
On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
whose aim is to provide a platform for discussion in severe weather but
also to research and educate the public which hopefully will save lives and
property.
Any interested storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
others in this network.
If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
www.severeweather.asn.au
******************************************
Grant Boyden
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http://www.2ky.com.au
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: aus-wx: Second warmest May ever in NZ
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:39:57 +1200
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Mean monthly average temperature nationally was 1.6 degrees celsius above
normal - the result of blocked high pressure systems pumping warm northerly
air in from Australia. Unusually, the coldest weather of the month was in
the first week. June 1 also was very warm - 22.7 maximum in Christchurch, a
record for the month. However, winter should show its true face tomorrow
with cold southerly rain, and snow is forecast down to 400 metres in
Canterbury.
Ben Tichborne
Christchurch
NZ
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ahhh hence the difference. Great to see some enthusiasm with Astro-Wx, it
truly is in a world of it's own (pun intended).
and keeping with wx also, It's bloody cold outside brrrrrrrrrr, but the old
thermometer says 14.6c. Oh well...
At 01:48 6/3/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Ahh.. your measurements are with reference to the ecliptic plane; mine are in
>reference to the individual planet's orbital plane.
>
>And to make it weather-related... er... yes there's weather outside ;)
>
>Marty.
>Brisbane, Australia
>martyp at dynamite.com.au
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>Date: Wednesday, 2 June 1999 16:53
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
>
>
>>
>>Actually pluto and charon rotate on axes that are tilted at 122.6 degrees
>>to the verticle, and it's the least upright planet in the solar system
>>
>>
>>At 02:25 6/2/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>>> I think it's Uranus! (definitely no pun intended!) :)
>>>>> 98 deg. axial tilt, I believe.
>>>
>>>>And I think U-Ranus rotates vertically, doesn't it? So the weather would
>>>>move from south to north?
>>>
>>>
>>>That's what an axial tilt of 90� means!
>>>
>>>Pluto's is 118�! Wouldn't want to live out there though, it's not the
>>obliquity
>>>that worries me, it'd be colder than Ballarat!
>>>
>>>Marty.
>>>Brisbane, Australia
>>>martyp at dynamite.com.au
>>>Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
>>>Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
>>>ICQ: 11790565
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Kevin Phyland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Michael!
>>>>>
>>>>> >5) Earth's axis of tilt is also not too extreme. Just think
>>>>> >what it would be like if we rolled around our orbit like
>>>>> >Neptune (?).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:05:39 +1000
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Yes I remember that now about Venus, however the cessation of the
Earth's rotation should probably be taken with more than just a grain of
salt. For example, the evidence of Noah's Flood appears to be spread
right across the whole world, and assuming there was such an event,
enormous events of probably cosmic proportions would have been required.
Many scientists ,not necessarily religious ones, agree that prior to
Noah the earth was surrounded by a mantle of water vapour which meant
the surface air pressure was about twice what it is now. For a flood of
that magnitude to occur there would have had to be more than just the
condensation of this mantle of vapour; enormous subterranean upheavals
would have had to occur as well. And when the wind came that helped dry
the earth out, was this the first occurrence of polar front depressions
and westerly gales, due to a change ,or even the commencement, of
Earth's rotation? Fanciful perhaps, but also fascinating!
I'm not trying to bash anyone with my own point of view here nor engage
in any controversy, indeed I don't hold any particularly strong view as
to what might have caused these events, only that I'm convinced they did
in fact happen .If they did, I guess we can only really speculate about
their causes seeing there were no weather records to back them up..
Kevin Phyland wrote:
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Yeah, if Jupiter had been about ten times bigger its own mass may well have
> caused fusion to start at its core...
>
> Velikovsky also said, (I think), that Venus was spat out of Jupiter at some
> stage and that the Earth really did stop rotating for an hour and started up
> again...
>
> fanciful that...
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>
> >From: Keith Barnett
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
> >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:47:34 +1000
> >
> >I have heard it said that the Great Red Spot was caused by the impact of
> >a comet or one of Jupiter's moons. Apparently if Jupiter was hotter it
> >would be a star and not a planet.Sufficient to say it's pretty unlivable
> >with its 500 mph hurricanes and lightning bolts 30000 Km in length.
> >However the so-called Jupiter Effect which was commonly debated in the
> >mid 1970s, with particular reference to Emmanuel Velikovsky (he wrote
> >Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos..fascinating but probably now
> >rather fanciful), has apparently been debunked although I did at the
> >time think it had some merit. The theory was that its gravitational
> >effect, in conjunction with planetary line-ups,affected earth's weather
> >and 1973/1974 was, from memory, the wettest summer in Central Australia
> >for over 100 years (I was there in April of that year and never thought
> >the desert could bloom like it did at the time.)
> >
> >Michael Scollay wrote:
> > >
> > > But the stability of that "great red spot" "storm" on Jupiter over time
> > > is simply amazing. There are a few theories as to why this is so but I
> > > am not that familiar with them. However, there is exhibited considerable
> > > heat outflow from whatever lies underneath Jupiter's dense clouds. My
> > > point about Earth is what horrible extremes we would experience if our
> > > axis were greater. I would be guessing but more violent storms, short
> > > sharper winters and short and much hotter summers. Global circulation
> > > patterns would be more chaotic, hence a nightmare to predict.
> > >
> > > Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
> > >
> > > Andrew Wall wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Also to make a point Venus rotates the oposite direction to all the
> >other
> > > > planets, both mercury and venus have a tilt of 2 degrees, earths tilt
> >is
> > > > 23.5 degrees, the moon has a tilt of 6.7 degrees, mars has a 25.2
> >degree
> > > > tilt, and the most weather extreme planet Jupiter has only a 3.1
> >degree
> > > > tilt from the ecliptic plane, Saturn has a 26.7 degree tilt and
> >neptune has
> > > > a 26.6 degree tilt
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Kevin Phyland wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hey Michael!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> >5) Earth's axis of tilt is also not too extreme. Just think
> > > > >>> >what it would be like if we rolled around our orbit like
> > > > >>> >Neptune (?).
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:09:59 +1000
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I hope so Jimmy..are these showers Sydney's getting the start of a wet
June spell, considering the position of the high near Tasmania? Again
the 5-7 day GASP charts are misleading..they appear to predict northwest
to northeast winds with an approaching 'northern' trough while the
latest forecast from the Sydney BoM says a west to southwest change
which is not even on the said forecast charts, at least not the ones I
looked at 15 minutes ago..
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> G'Day Jimmy here
>
> I am quite interested in the weather that may develop over the weekend in
> NSW. A cold pool of air is forecast to pass over.
>
> We will see what happens.
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:27:52 +1000
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Yes it has gone into the negative range (I download it regularly from
http://www.dnr.qld.gov.au/longpdk/latest/lattable.htm).
I think however it's possible to get heavy snowfalls no matter where the
SOI is, just as it's possible to get heavy rain.
Lindsay wrote:
>
> The ABC indicated the SOI was negative for the first time in 12 months,
> (i think) . Does anyone have any reflections on such a reading and how
> it might impact on the snow season in Australia?
>
> Can a negative reading mean less chance of snow?
>
> Are their indeed records to show seasonal snowfalls and how they
> correlate with the SOI of a given year? I'm interested to compare these
> things.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lindsay Pearce.
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:31:40 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Today's 30 day average (the one the ABC uses) is 1.8. It was down to
just below zero earlier in the week. The 90 day average is 7.31. The
latest probability for rainfall indicates a 'rapidly falling' phase
(there are 5 'phases' altogether, I think).
Paul is correct in that, before you start to worry about a bad season,
the 30 day average would have to be below zero for a whole month or so.
Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points - eg from +
> 11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I think its
> about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last weekend).
>
> So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 20:40:05 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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I may have confused all and sundry Lindsay in that I was referring to
separate max and min thermometers..the max is the 'doctor's' one but the
min has an index, just like Mr Six's (so too does the grass min only it
has no wooden support). In any event they are all mounted almost
horizontally. The trouble with the Six's thermometer is that the scale
is shown vertically so if it's horizontally mounted it'll obviously be a
bit harder to read. Still that's better than a slipping marker and thus
no reading at all (or a very wrong one)...
Lindsay wrote:
>
> Keith! What a smart idea!
>
> You're a champion! Why didn't I think of that. Multiple heads are always
> better than one when it comes to good ideas.
>
> I like that saying. "The difference between a wise person and a foolish
> person is that the wise person knows how foolish they are." It applies
> to learning about the weather and I certainly have much to learn about
> such things and mind you, I'm not afraid to ask.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Lindsay P.
> PS: They shoulda included that above saying in the bible. Maybe it was
> in the original, in Aramaic or Hebrew. ;-)
> Keith Barnett wrote:
> >
> > I haven't seen a push button one Lindsay but with the BoM standard one I
> > use (it's like a giant doctor's thermometer you shake down every day) I
> > mount it almost horizontally (in a Stevenson screen), the bulb slightly
> > lower than the other end. You might minimise the slipping marker if you
> > can do this with your one.
> > Hope this helps...
> >
> > Lindsay wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with a max/min thermometer problem.
> > >
> > > The marker keeps sliding down on the maximum side, so it is hard to get
> > > an accurate reading. It's one of those push button ones, that you reset
> > > daily. When I turn it upside down and let the markers "Drain" to the top
> > > of the thermometer and then release them, it seems to help somewhat but
> > > the problem seems to persist. What is the process involved in these
> > > thermometers? How do they work?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of places that I can purchase a moderately priced
> > > max/min thermometer if this one ends up being stuffed?
> > >
> > > Also, apologies if I haven't got back to anyone that has emailed me. As
> > > I said, I've been out of action for two weeks.
> > >
> > > Lindsay Pearce
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I think you have bought forward a reasonable explanation, I too have
wondered about the flooding. I would have loved to be on earth at that time
to see what happened. Just imagine the storms that would have been around
at that time. Possibly the Atmosphere of earth was much larger back then.
therefore holding more moisture in the air.
I too have some theories but it will probly take a crowbar to get them out
right now :)
Might look into this a little further, sounds interesting....
At 20:05 6/3/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Yes I remember that now about Venus, however the cessation of the
>Earth's rotation should probably be taken with more than just a grain of
>salt. For example, the evidence of Noah's Flood appears to be spread
>right across the whole world, and assuming there was such an event,
>enormous events of probably cosmic proportions would have been required.
>Many scientists ,not necessarily religious ones, agree that prior to
>Noah the earth was surrounded by a mantle of water vapour which meant
>the surface air pressure was about twice what it is now. For a flood of
>that magnitude to occur there would have had to be more than just the
>condensation of this mantle of vapour; enormous subterranean upheavals
>would have had to occur as well. And when the wind came that helped dry
>the earth out, was this the first occurrence of polar front depressions
>and westerly gales, due to a change ,or even the commencement, of
>Earth's rotation? Fanciful perhaps, but also fascinating!
>I'm not trying to bash anyone with my own point of view here nor engage
>in any controversy, indeed I don't hold any particularly strong view as
>to what might have caused these events, only that I'm convinced they did
>in fact happen .If they did, I guess we can only really speculate about
>their causes seeing there were no weather records to back them up..
>
>Kevin Phyland wrote:
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Yeah, if Jupiter had been about ten times bigger its own mass may well have
>> caused fusion to start at its core...
>>
>> Velikovsky also said, (I think), that Venus was spat out of Jupiter at some
>> stage and that the Earth really did stop rotating for an hour and
started up
>> again...
>>
>> fanciful that...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>>
>> >From: Keith Barnett
>> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
>> >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:47:34 +1000
>> >
>> >I have heard it said that the Great Red Spot was caused by the impact of
>> >a comet or one of Jupiter's moons. Apparently if Jupiter was hotter it
>> >would be a star and not a planet.Sufficient to say it's pretty unlivable
>> >with its 500 mph hurricanes and lightning bolts 30000 Km in length.
>> >However the so-called Jupiter Effect which was commonly debated in the
>> >mid 1970s, with particular reference to Emmanuel Velikovsky (he wrote
>> >Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos..fascinating but probably now
>> >rather fanciful), has apparently been debunked although I did at the
>> >time think it had some merit. The theory was that its gravitational
>> >effect, in conjunction with planetary line-ups,affected earth's weather
>> >and 1973/1974 was, from memory, the wettest summer in Central Australia
>> >for over 100 years (I was there in April of that year and never thought
>> >the desert could bloom like it did at the time.)
>> >
>> >Michael Scollay wrote:
>> > >
>> > > But the stability of that "great red spot" "storm" on Jupiter over time
>> > > is simply amazing. There are a few theories as to why this is so but I
>> > > am not that familiar with them. However, there is exhibited
considerable
>> > > heat outflow from whatever lies underneath Jupiter's dense clouds. My
>> > > point about Earth is what horrible extremes we would experience if our
>> > > axis were greater. I would be guessing but more violent storms, short
>> > > sharper winters and short and much hotter summers. Global circulation
>> > > patterns would be more chaotic, hence a nightmare to predict.
>> > >
>> > > Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
>> > >
>> > > Andrew Wall wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Also to make a point Venus rotates the oposite direction to all the
>> >other
>> > > > planets, both mercury and venus have a tilt of 2 degrees, earths tilt
>> >is
>> > > > 23.5 degrees, the moon has a tilt of 6.7 degrees, mars has a 25.2
>> >degree
>> > > > tilt, and the most weather extreme planet Jupiter has only a 3.1
>> >degree
>> > > > tilt from the ecliptic plane, Saturn has a 26.7 degree tilt and
>> >neptune has
>> > > > a 26.6 degree tilt
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Kevin Phyland wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Hey Michael!
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> >5) Earth's axis of tilt is also not too extreme. Just think
>> > > > >>> >what it would be like if we rolled around our orbit like
>> > > > >>> >Neptune (?).
>> > > [snip]
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Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:18:05 +1000
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>From the biblical account there was no rain prior to the flood as there
were 'streams' that flowed from the ground and watered the earth
(Genesis 2:5). And if atmospheric moisture accounted for 50% of the air
pressure, yes, the atmosphere would surely have to have extended much
further into space than it does now. Such humidity would have been ideal
for the existence of a world-wide tropical climate, as evidenced by the
discovery of fossilised tropical vegetation in Antarctica. I suspect
that up to this time, there was no planetary rotation..for streams to
come up from the earth's surface there would have had to be a daily
cycle of evapotranspiration and condensation. A perfect 'greenhouse
effect'! If the weather patterns then were the same as what they are now
(ie belts of high and low pressure etc) it would not be possible for
worldwide high humidity levels to exist as the westerlies and trade
winds would disperse them causing the pressure patterns and rain they
cause now. Apparently there were temperature variations, because when
Adam and Eve stuffed up they hid themselves from 'the sound of God
walking in the garden in the cool of the evening'.And of course look how
people love to dwell on this couple's lack of attire..a sure sign of a
tropical paradise?
It seems to me that this was the 'Gondwanaland' that is often spoken of,
and that the flood was contributed to by the fracturing of the tectonic
plates that held it all together.
The trouble is , no observers other than Noah would have survived,
because the highest mountains were covered to a depth of about 6 or 7
metres.
Imagine poor Noah's (and his family's) reaction to the weather that was
going on..
If Velikovsky had lived longer he may well have refined his view to
something less sensational than Worlds in Collision..
Andrew Wall wrote:
>
> I think you have bought forward a reasonable explanation, I too have
> wondered about the flooding. I would have loved to be on earth at that time
> to see what happened. Just imagine the storms that would have been around
> at that time. Possibly the Atmosphere of earth was much larger back then.
> therefore holding more moisture in the air.
>
> I too have some theories but it will probly take a crowbar to get them out
> right now :)
>
> Might look into this a little further, sounds interesting....
>
> At 20:05 6/3/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Yes I remember that now about Venus, however the cessation of the
> >Earth's rotation should probably be taken with more than just a grain of
> >salt. For example, the evidence of Noah's Flood appears to be spread
> >right across the whole world, and assuming there was such an event,
> >enormous events of probably cosmic proportions would have been required.
> >Many scientists ,not necessarily religious ones, agree that prior to
> >Noah the earth was surrounded by a mantle of water vapour which meant
> >the surface air pressure was about twice what it is now. For a flood of
> >that magnitude to occur there would have had to be more than just the
> >condensation of this mantle of vapour; enormous subterranean upheavals
> >would have had to occur as well. And when the wind came that helped dry
> >the earth out, was this the first occurrence of polar front depressions
> >and westerly gales, due to a change ,or even the commencement, of
> >Earth's rotation? Fanciful perhaps, but also fascinating!
> >I'm not trying to bash anyone with my own point of view here nor engage
> >in any controversy, indeed I don't hold any particularly strong view as
> >to what might have caused these events, only that I'm convinced they did
> >in fact happen .If they did, I guess we can only really speculate about
> >their causes seeing there were no weather records to back them up..
> >
> >Kevin Phyland wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Keith,
> >>
> >> Yeah, if Jupiter had been about ten times bigger its own mass may well have
> >> caused fusion to start at its core...
> >>
> >> Velikovsky also said, (I think), that Venus was spat out of Jupiter at some
> >> stage and that the Earth really did stop rotating for an hour and
> started up
> >> again...
> >>
> >> fanciful that...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Kevin from Wycheproof.
> >>
> >> >From: Keith Barnett
> >> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
> >> >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:47:34 +1000
> >> >
> >> >I have heard it said that the Great Red Spot was caused by the impact of
> >> >a comet or one of Jupiter's moons. Apparently if Jupiter was hotter it
> >> >would be a star and not a planet.Sufficient to say it's pretty unlivable
> >> >with its 500 mph hurricanes and lightning bolts 30000 Km in length.
> >> >However the so-called Jupiter Effect which was commonly debated in the
> >> >mid 1970s, with particular reference to Emmanuel Velikovsky (he wrote
> >> >Worlds in Collision and Ages in Chaos..fascinating but probably now
> >> >rather fanciful), has apparently been debunked although I did at the
> >> >time think it had some merit. The theory was that its gravitational
> >> >effect, in conjunction with planetary line-ups,affected earth's weather
> >> >and 1973/1974 was, from memory, the wettest summer in Central Australia
> >> >for over 100 years (I was there in April of that year and never thought
> >> >the desert could bloom like it did at the time.)
> >> >
> >> >Michael Scollay wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > But the stability of that "great red spot" "storm" on Jupiter over time
> >> > > is simply amazing. There are a few theories as to why this is so but I
> >> > > am not that familiar with them. However, there is exhibited
> considerable
> >> > > heat outflow from whatever lies underneath Jupiter's dense clouds. My
> >> > > point about Earth is what horrible extremes we would experience if our
> >> > > axis were greater. I would be guessing but more violent storms, short
> >> > > sharper winters and short and much hotter summers. Global circulation
> >> > > patterns would be more chaotic, hence a nightmare to predict.
> >> > >
> >> > > Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrew Wall wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Also to make a point Venus rotates the oposite direction to all the
> >> >other
> >> > > > planets, both mercury and venus have a tilt of 2 degrees, earths tilt
> >> >is
> >> > > > 23.5 degrees, the moon has a tilt of 6.7 degrees, mars has a 25.2
> >> >degree
> >> > > > tilt, and the most weather extreme planet Jupiter has only a 3.1
> >> >degree
> >> > > > tilt from the ecliptic plane, Saturn has a 26.7 degree tilt and
> >> >neptune has
> >> > > > a 26.6 degree tilt
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>Kevin Phyland wrote:
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> Hey Michael!
> >> > > > >>>
> >> > > > >>> >5) Earth's axis of tilt is also not too extreme. Just think
> >> > > > >>> >what it would be like if we rolled around our orbit like
> >> > > > >>> >Neptune (?).
> >> > > [snip]
> >> > >
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From: Rod Aikman [raikman at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early Photographs of Tornadoes in Australia
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:40:15 EST
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Hi Paul,
The photo of the Marong tornado that you refer to was as is stated
in your citation from "The Climate and Weather of Australia", Hunt et al
1913, published in the "Australian Monthly Weather Report" for September
1911. I know that the National Meteorological Library at the Melbourne
Bureau has this in their collection; other state Bureaux may also have it in
their libraries. The photograph was taken by a Bendigo resident, Mr G
Hoskin, from a distance of three miles. The photo was also published in a
volume of the "Annals of Bendigo". I also know that an original post card
size photograph exists. I will approach the person who owns it, to see if I
may be able to have it copied.
Rod Aikman
Bendigo Vic
Hi everyone,
In a book with the title: "The Climate and Weather of Australia" published
in 1913, the authors H.A Hunt, Griffith Taylor and E.T Quayle write a
chapter on tornadoes. In it, they give a very good description of tornadic
storms given the information available at the time. Perhaps our media
should read it too since, as they write: "From the cyclone, it [the tornado]
differs in the area affected, but, nevertheless, it is not to be regarded as
a miniature cyclone."
The authors go on to describe a couple of tornadoes occurring in September
of 1911, one of which was photographed. It would be interesting to see if
this photo can be tracked down sometime since it would be one of the
earliest in Australia. I thought it would be an interesting from a
historical perspective to reproduce some of their work here - I apologise
for any transcription errors:
"The name 'tornado' is given to an excessively violent and destructive wind
storm affecting only a narrow strip of country, and producing its
destructive effects, not by a straight blow, but by air in rapid rotation,
as in a whirlwind. From the latter, which is relatively insignificant, the
tornado differs essentially, as it does also from the vastly wider cyclone,
though the terms are often confused.
The tornado is always associated with thunder and hail storms of extremely
violent type. If we regard a thunderstorm as due to the uprushing of a
column of air, from, say, the 4,000 to the 20,000 or even 30,000 feet level
this giving rise to, and in turn being maintained by, the condensation of
aqueous vapour, with the resulting phenomena of rain, hail, electric
discharge, &c., and this column of air to take on a rapid spiral movement,
which it naturally does, then the downward extension of this spiral movement
to the ground provides the tornado. It is in respect to this thunderstorm
origin that it differs from a whirlwind, the latter usually originating at
ground level and not rising high enough to cause condensation in the very
dry, hot air in which it occurs. The radius of action of the tornado may
not be much greater than the few yards covered by an ordinary whirlwind, and
rarely exceeds one-fourth of a mile, but what it lacks in area it more than
makes up in intensity. From the cyclone it differs in the area affected,
but, nevertheless, it is not to be regarded as a miniature cyclone. The
tornado is a part of one thunderstorm; the cyclone is a vastly wider
circulation of the air set in motion, at all events when of tropical origin,
by the prevalence over a considerable area of the earth's surface of
conditions whcih may be incidentally indicated by the occurrence of
thunderstorms and even tornadoes in isolated parts of it. Some of the
primary essentials to these conditions would be heat and atmospheric
humidity above normal. It may be suggested, too, that the vertical
temperature gradient would provide a means of definitely separating the two.
In the tornado or thunderstorm the rising air must at any level, except
possibly near the top, be warmer than the surrounding air at the same level,
while above the cyclone the air soon becomes actually colder than at the
same levels in the surrounding anticyclones. This is, of course, only
another way of saying that a steep vertical temperature gradient is
favourable for the occurrence, first of thunderstorms, and ultimately of
cyclones.
Typical tornadoes are commonly supposed to be confined to North America.
This is only true to the extent that they are undoubtedly more frequent and
probably more violent there than elsewhere. Australian experience provides
many genuine examples, but owing to the sparse population and the character
of the storms themselves they have not yet been the subjects of very
accurate scientific observation.
Judging by the records available, New South Wales and Victoria appear to be
the States most liable to these visitations. In New South Wales they are
most frequent in the summer, occurring only in connexion with the monsoonal
depressions; in Victoria the seem quite as liable to occur in connexion
with strong Antarctic low-pressure systems, and the numbers do not therefore
show the same marked preferences for the summer season.
The conditions most favourable for tornadoes inland and in the summer
are-(1) high temperatures; (2) considerable humidity; (3) very small
barometric gradient, to which may be added a very probable fourth factor,
unusually steep vertical temperature gradient. These seem to be most
frequently provided by extensive but comparitively shallow monsoonal
depressions, which favour a wide gentle air flow southerly from the tropical
interior.
The weather charts for the 25th to 29th September, 1911, show conditions
typically favourable and abundantly justified by results, inasmuch as two
tornadoes resulted. The first was in Victoria at Marong, near Bendigo, on
the afternoon of the 27th September, 1911. This supplied all the
characteristic features of a tornado, the long inverted cone depending from
the dense blue-black thunder cloud, the narrow track, 5 to 12 chains wide
and 12 miles in length, along which indescribable damage was wrought, and
the accompanying voilent thunder and hail storms. Fortunately a photograph
of the storm cloud with its pendent funnel was secured by a gentleman 3
miles distant, and this has been reproduced, together with a full
description of the storm, &c., in the 1911 September number of the
Australian Monthly Weather Report. Two days later the same atmospheric
conditions resulted in a similar storm in New South Wales at Cudal, between
Forbes and Orange. The results in the latter case were not so serious, as
the storm occurred in a sparsely populated area..."
- Extract from a chapter on tornadoes from "The Climate and Weather of
Australia" by H.A Hunt (Commonwealth Meteorologist), Griffith Taylor
(Physiographer), E.T Quayle (Assistant Meteorologist).
Published by Albert J. Mullet, Government Printer, 1913.
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From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting weather for NSW
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:44:27 +1000
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Interesting weather is already here with torrential showers and local thunder in the Coffs Harbour area. Have hou ever tried to play soccer in a large puddle? The Coffs International Stadium saw interesting games tonight - dribbling skills weren't much use but at least the shirts got washed! I suppose the weekend games will be washed out now.
So when are we likely to see some more dry, cold air up this way and a few frosts so my lawn will stop growing?
Peter
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail Footage
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:21:48 +1000
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He has already contacted me and a tape is on the way.
This raises an interesting subject, so far over the last few months I have 3
tapes in media roundabout somewhere, and have heard nothing. But the cost
has been 3 tapes, 1 postage to UK, my personal lunch time, my personal
transfer time from Hi 8 to VHS, packing material. Although to be fair to
Jeff his has only just left.
I suppose it may be worth it eventually if one makes some $$, but so far not
a razoo and out of pocket $30-$50.
Something to think about. Especially if you asked to send your master copy
away.
Regards
Michael
> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone help this person on the request that I received
> by email last night.
> If you are interested, can you email me at
> mike at strikeone.com.au
> and I will give you his email address.
>
> Below is the request.
>
> >i'm looking for hail footage. specifically of the sydney
> hailstorm
> >14APR99, but will be interested in any hail...
>
> >any available?
>
> >Jeff Topham
> >Storm Warning! / Discovery Channel
>
> --
> Michael Fewings
> Strike One Lightning Photos
> http://strikeone.com.au
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Second warmest May ever in NZ
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:58:50 +1000
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I was wondering if you had been watching the models, they have pulled back a
little from the predictions of 2 days ago when they had 540 thickness right
over NZ and further north.
Still should get some snow, which is more than we can say about the aussie
snow fields at present.
Michael
> Mean monthly average temperature nationally was 1.6 degrees celsius above
> normal - the result of blocked high pressure systems pumping warm
northerly
> air in from Australia. Unusually, the coldest weather of the month was in
> the first week. June 1 also was very warm - 22.7 maximum in Christchurch,
a
> record for the month. However, winter should show its true face tomorrow
> with cold southerly rain, and snow is forecast down to 400 metres in
> Canterbury.
>
> Ben Tichborne
> Christchurch
> NZ
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:56:57 +1000
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Hi guys
I prefer 1, 2 and 4.
The only thing I dislike about numero tres is the word " fascinated ". I may
bring up the wrong association in people's minds. The Yahoo chaser thing.
Michael
>
> For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign
for
> the NSW div of ASWA.
>
> Of cause other states have shown interest in the idea and we are working
> with them as well.
>
> The media campaign is based around CSA ( Community Service Announcements)
> These are FREE ads that give the community some type of education.
>
> We have come up with four ads that will be recorded at 2KY ( If there are
> no objections to content) and sent out to radio stations across the
country
> for air play.
>
> BEFORE YOU READ THEM
>
> Please understand that CSA can not just be a commercial. They have to
> provide some type of community content and that's why they have been
worded
> this way.
>
> I would recommend that we send out all four and let the stations select
> which ones they want.
>
> My company G.B.Commentary Production will buy 100 CDs and donate them to
> ASWA for this purpose and 2KY will supply all the recording equipment free
> of charge.
>
> I don't think I have forgotten anything..... If I have just let me know
and
> PLEASE feed back is welcome.
>
> **********************************************
> Okay here they are.
> **********************************************
>
> CSA ONE
>
>
> (SFX)
> VOICE 1
> A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
>
> VOICE2
> On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
> tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
>
> If a storm is coming your way, you can protect yourself by:
>
> Listen to local radio for information.
> Shelter and secure pets and animals.
> Shelter your vehicle(s) or cover with tarpaulin/blankets.
> Disconnect all electrical appliances.
> Tape or cover large windows or glass doors.
>
> This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
> Weather Association.
>
> VOICE 1
> To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
> www.severeweather.asn.au
>
> **********************************************
>
> CSA TWO
>
>
> (SFX)
> VOICE 1
> A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
>
> VOICE2
> On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
> tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
>
> When the storm strikes protect yourself by
> Stay inside and shelter well clear of windows, in the strongest part of
the
> house.
> If necessary, cover yourself with a mattress, blanket, doona or tarpaulin,
> under a table or bench.
> If your driving, stop clear of trees, power lines or streams.
> and avoid using the telephone during a storm.
>
> This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
> Weather Association.
>
> VOICE 1
> To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
> www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
> **********************************************
>
> CSA THREE
>
>
> (SFX)
> On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
> tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
>
> The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
> which was formed due to the great demand of those who were fascinated with
> severe weather.
>
> The aim of ASWA is not only to provide a platform for discussion in severe
> weather, but also in research and education.
>
> Any interested in storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
> and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
> others across the country.
>
> If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
> severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
> Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
> www.severeweather.asn.au
>
> **********************************************
>
> CSA FOUR
>
> On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
> tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
>
> The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
> whose aim is to provide a platform for discussion in severe weather but
> also to research and educate the public which hopefully will save lives
and
> property.
>
> Any interested storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
> and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
> others in this network.
>
> If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
> severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
> Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
>
> www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
> ******************************************
> Grant Boyden
>
> http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
> http://www.2ky.com.au
>
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:35:43 GMT
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Some good falls in the 3 hours to 9pm Thursday -- Coffs Harbour 22
with storm in past hour reported, Evans Head 12, Newcastle Nobbys 11
and Taree AP 8. Williamtown had 24mm between 9am and noon in a
thunderstorm.
Grafton radar 10.20pm is showing some good cells (yellow) off the
coast near Coffs moving from the SE.
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Max/Min thermometers
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:44:59 GMT
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On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:32:15 -0700, Lindsay
wrote:
>Thanks John,
>
>I just rang up National Parks and Wildlife here in Blackheath and their
>weather station (worth thousands of dollars more than mine) gave me a
>reading of 11.8 degrees at 4:30pm. My min/max had 11.5 and my wet bulb
>and thermometer combo had 12. So, I am presuming these reasonably cheap
>instruments are accurate enough for home records, I guess? The NPWS
>station is about 500 metres from my place so I reason that its a
>reasonable representation of my area too, same alitude and similar
>surrounds. Would that be fair to say?
Hi Lindsay. Temperature, especially by day, can vary considerably
depending on exposure. If you're going to compare your thermometer
with one more than a metre or so away, do it on a windy night, when
good mixing will result in an even temperature over a wide area
provided the altitude is within 30m or so. There's also no problem
from sunshine or reflected radiation. The thermometer should be out in
the open, not under awnings or trees.
The best way to check your thermometer is to check it against a
callibrated one in a stevenson screen. I have a screen and Dobbie
Brothers instruments, and I live in your town, so if you care to drop
me an email we could arrange a checkout.
--
Laurier Williams
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Fw: aus-wx: Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:47:25 +1000
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From: Laurier Williams [wbc at ozemail.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Thursday, 3 June 1999 10:38
Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
Some good falls in the 3 hours to 9pm Thursday -- Coffs Harbour 22
with storm in past hour reported, Evans Head 12, Newcastle Nobbys 11
and Taree AP 8. Williamtown had 24mm between 9am and noon in a
thunderstorm.
We've had 19.6mm here in Ballina since Midnight.......
John
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:53:13 +1000
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Good stuff, I'd agree with sending all 4 out and letting the radio stations
take their pick...
Andrew.
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> From: Michael Thompson
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
> Date: Thursday, 3 June 1999 21:56
>
> Hi guys
>
> I prefer 1, 2 and 4.
>
> The only thing I dislike about numero tres is the word " fascinated ". I
may
> bring up the wrong association in people's minds. The Yahoo chaser thing.
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign
> for
> > the NSW div of ASWA.
> >
> > Of cause other states have shown interest in the idea and we are
working
> > with them as well.
> >
> > The media campaign is based around CSA ( Community Service
Announcements)
> > These are FREE ads that give the community some type of education.
> >
> > We have come up with four ads that will be recorded at 2KY ( If there
are
> > no objections to content) and sent out to radio stations across the
> country
> > for air play.
> >
> > BEFORE YOU READ THEM
> >
> > Please understand that CSA can not just be a commercial. They have to
> > provide some type of community content and that's why they have been
> worded
> > this way.
> >
> > I would recommend that we send out all four and let the stations select
> > which ones they want.
> >
> > My company G.B.Commentary Production will buy 100 CDs and donate them
to
> > ASWA for this purpose and 2KY will supply all the recording equipment
free
> > of charge.
> >
> > I don't think I have forgotten anything..... If I have just let me know
> and
> > PLEASE feed back is welcome.
> >
> > **********************************************
> > Okay here they are.
> > **********************************************
> >
> > CSA ONE
> >
> >
> > (SFX)
> > VOICE 1
> > A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
> >
> > VOICE2
> > On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage
than
> > tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
> >
> > If a storm is coming your way, you can protect yourself by:
> >
> > Listen to local radio for information.
> > Shelter and secure pets and animals.
> > Shelter your vehicle(s) or cover with tarpaulin/blankets.
> > Disconnect all electrical appliances.
> > Tape or cover large windows or glass doors.
> >
> > This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian
Severe
> > Weather Association.
> >
> > VOICE 1
> > To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
> > www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> > **********************************************
> >
> > CSA TWO
> >
> >
> > (SFX)
> > VOICE 1
> > A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
> >
> > VOICE2
> > On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage
than
> > tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
> >
> > When the storm strikes protect yourself by
> > Stay inside and shelter well clear of windows, in the strongest part of
> the
> > house.
> > If necessary, cover yourself with a mattress, blanket, doona or
tarpaulin,
> > under a table or bench.
> > If your driving, stop clear of trees, power lines or streams.
> > and avoid using the telephone during a storm.
> >
> > This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian
Severe
> > Weather Association.
> >
> > VOICE 1
> > To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
> > www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >
> > **********************************************
> >
> > CSA THREE
> >
> >
> > (SFX)
> > On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage
than
> > tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
> >
> > The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
> > which was formed due to the great demand of those who were fascinated
with
> > severe weather.
> >
> > The aim of ASWA is not only to provide a platform for discussion in
severe
> > weather, but also in research and education.
> >
> > Any interested in storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal,
farmers,
> > and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up
with
> > others across the country.
> >
> > If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast
lows,
> > severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
> > Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
> > www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> > **********************************************
> >
> > CSA FOUR
> >
> > On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage
than
> > tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
> >
> > The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
> > whose aim is to provide a platform for discussion in severe weather but
> > also to research and educate the public which hopefully will save lives
> and
> > property.
> >
> > Any interested storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
> > and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up
with
> > others in this network.
> >
> > If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast
lows,
> > severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
> > Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
> >
> > www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >
> > ******************************************
> > Grant Boyden
> >
> > http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
> > http://www.2ky.com.au
> >
> > ******************************************
> >
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