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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] SOI and severe t'storms
002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Updates to my non-storm photos
003 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Community Service Announcements for ASWA
004 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Community Service Announcements for ASWA
005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] SOI on the ABC
006 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Sol's family
007 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Sol's family
008 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
009 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
010 Kevin Phyland [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Satpic 16/11/96
011 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Max/Min thermometers
014 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] SOI on the ABC
015 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] SOI on the ABC
016 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] SOI on the ABC
017 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Community Service Announcements for ASWA
018 Max [mnk at zip.com.au] Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
019 Paul Graham [v_notch at hotmail.com] SOI and severe t'storms
020 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] SOI and severe t'storms
021 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au] SOI and severe t'storms
022 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Sol's family
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001
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: SOI and severe t'storms
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:22:54 +1000
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Hi All
If the SOI 'trend' continues to decrease like it has been recently that
could be good news for those wanting a good storm season - in the Brisbane
area anyway.
Jeff Callaghan, the head of the Severe Weather Section of the Brisbane BoM
has compiled a list: "Notable Severe Thunderstorms in the Greater Brisbane
(Including Redcliffe and Ipswich) Since January 1955"...
"Relationship with the S.O.I."
He found that of 61 very serious events since 1955, 45 of those occurred
while the SOI was negative, the remaining 16 during positive phases. "The
average SOI at the time of severe t'storm occurrence is -2.5". So from
those numbers you could obviously say in the Brisbane area there is a higher
probability of severe storms during periods of negative SOI then positive
SOI. A very interesting finding - a trend too broad to believe it was only
coincidence.
It would be interesting to have a similar study across the whole country.
Regards
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002
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Updates to my non-storm photos
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:43:59 +1000
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Michael,
Wow, you've got some absolutely gorgeous sunset shots. Two in particular are
superb! Love the rainbow shots, too. I love rainbows where you can see the end;
I was rather dissappointed at not finding a pot of gold, however :(
Oh, a few of the sunset links are incorrent. They contain a backslash, which
should be a forward slash.
Cheers!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
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Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Thompson [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Wednesday, 2 June 1999 22:37
Subject: aus-wx: Updates to my non-storm photos
|About 20 new sunsets added to
|
|http://thunder.simplenet.com/sunset/sunset.htm
|
|Two rainbows ( more to come ) at
|
|http://thunder.simplenet.com/photo/rainbow.htm
|
|and on my unusual and different page. some convecting stratus type cloud
| yes I know that's a contradiction ). This was the day before the yachts got
|into trouble.
|
|http://thunder.simplenet.com/photo/unusual.htm
|
|
|Michael Thompson
|http://thunder.simplenet.com
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003
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:26:08 +1000
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Grant and all,
Depending on which way you go with these, you may wish to get the station's
copywriting department to write some CSAs for you. If they are CSAs (which they
seem to be), then you could quite possibly get some spots written and produced
at the station for free. Although, if they are sent to other stations (other
than the one which produced them), then you'd probably incur a fee for the voice
talent.
If you have four spots to run, it's usually quite easy for the station to run
them all in rotation.
I work in production at B105 in Brisbane, so if you have any questions, feel
free to ask.
Cheers,
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
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-----Original Message-----
From: Grant Boyden [boyden at zeta.org.au]
To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Thursday, 3 June 1999 18:21
Subject: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
|Hi everyone,
|
|For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign for
|the NSW div of ASWA.
|
|Of cause other states have shown interest in the idea and we are working
|with them as well.
|
|The media campaign is based around CSA ( Community Service Announcements)
|These are FREE ads that give the community some type of education.
|
|We have come up with four ads that will be recorded at 2KY ( If there are
|no objections to content) and sent out to radio stations across the country
|for air play.
|
|BEFORE YOU READ THEM
|
|Please understand that CSA can not just be a commercial. They have to
|provide some type of community content and that's why they have been worded
|this way.
|
|I would recommend that we send out all four and let the stations select
|which ones they want.
|
|My company G.B.Commentary Production will buy 100 CDs and donate them to
|ASWA for this purpose and 2KY will supply all the recording equipment free
|of charge.
|
|I don't think I have forgotten anything..... If I have just let me know and
|PLEASE feed back is welcome.
|
|**********************************************
|Okay here they are.
|**********************************************
|
|CSA ONE
|
|
|(SFX)
|VOICE 1
|A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
|
|VOICE2
|On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
|tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
|
|If a storm is coming your way, you can protect yourself by:
|
|Listen to local radio for information.
|Shelter and secure pets and animals.
|Shelter your vehicle(s) or cover with tarpaulin/blankets.
|Disconnect all electrical appliances.
|Tape or cover large windows or glass doors.
|
|This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
|Weather Association.
|
|VOICE 1
|To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
|www.severeweather.asn.au
|
|**********************************************
|
|CSA TWO
|
|
|(SFX)
|VOICE 1
|A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
|
|VOICE2
|On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
|tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
|
|When the storm strikes protect yourself by
|Stay inside and shelter well clear of windows, in the strongest part of the
|house.
|If necessary, cover yourself with a mattress, blanket, doona or tarpaulin,
|under a table or bench.
|If your driving, stop clear of trees, power lines or streams.
|and avoid using the telephone during a storm.
|
|This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
|Weather Association.
|
|VOICE 1
|To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
|www.severeweather.asn.au
|
|
|**********************************************
|
|CSA THREE
|
|
|(SFX)
|On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
|tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
|
|The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
|which was formed due to the great demand of those who were fascinated with
|severe weather.
|
|The aim of ASWA is not only to provide a platform for discussion in severe
|weather, but also in research and education.
|
|Any interested in storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
|and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
|others across the country.
|
|If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
|severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
|Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
|www.severeweather.asn.au
|
|**********************************************
|
|CSA FOUR
|
|On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
|tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
|
|The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
|whose aim is to provide a platform for discussion in severe weather but
|also to research and educate the public which hopefully will save lives and
|property.
|
|Any interested storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
|and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
|others in this network.
|
|If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
|severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
|Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
|
|www.severeweather.asn.au
|
|
|******************************************
|Grant Boyden
|
|http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
|http://www.2ky.com.au
|
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004
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:54:31 +1000
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Grant and all,
>Depending on which way you go with these, you may wish to get the station's
>copywriting department to write some CSAs for you.
Sorry, I'm not suggesting that the CSAs you've written need changing. But, you
may wish to have something more creative written (by people who are paid to be
creative!) based on the information you have in the current CSAs.
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
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Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
ICQ: 11790565
-----Original Message-----
From: Marty [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Friday, 4 June 1999 1:35
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
|Grant and all,
|
|Depending on which way you go with these, you may wish to get the station's
|copywriting department to write some CSAs for you. If they are CSAs (which they
|seem to be), then you could quite possibly get some spots written and produced
|at the station for free. Although, if they are sent to other stations (other
|than the one which produced them), then you'd probably incur a fee for the
voice
|talent.
|
|If you have four spots to run, it's usually quite easy for the station to run
|them all in rotation.
|
|I work in production at B105 in Brisbane, so if you have any questions, feel
|free to ask.
|
|Cheers,
|
|Marty.
|Brisbane, Australia
|martyp at dynamite.com.au
|Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
|Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
|ICQ: 11790565
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: Grant Boyden
|To: Aussie Weather
|Date: Thursday, 3 June 1999 18:21
|Subject: aus-wx: Community Service Announcements for ASWA
|
|
||Hi everyone,
||
||For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign for
||the NSW div of ASWA.
||
||Of cause other states have shown interest in the idea and we are working
||with them as well.
||
||The media campaign is based around CSA ( Community Service Announcements)
||These are FREE ads that give the community some type of education.
||
||We have come up with four ads that will be recorded at 2KY ( If there are
||no objections to content) and sent out to radio stations across the country
||for air play.
||
||BEFORE YOU READ THEM
||
||Please understand that CSA can not just be a commercial. They have to
||provide some type of community content and that's why they have been worded
||this way.
||
||I would recommend that we send out all four and let the stations select
||which ones they want.
||
||My company G.B.Commentary Production will buy 100 CDs and donate them to
||ASWA for this purpose and 2KY will supply all the recording equipment free
||of charge.
||
||I don't think I have forgotten anything..... If I have just let me know and
||PLEASE feed back is welcome.
||
||**********************************************
||Okay here they are.
||**********************************************
||
||CSA ONE
||
||
||(SFX)
||VOICE 1
||A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
||
||VOICE2
||On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
||tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
||
||If a storm is coming your way, you can protect yourself by:
||
||Listen to local radio for information.
||Shelter and secure pets and animals.
||Shelter your vehicle(s) or cover with tarpaulin/blankets.
||Disconnect all electrical appliances.
||Tape or cover large windows or glass doors.
||
||This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
||Weather Association.
||
||VOICE 1
||To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
||www.severeweather.asn.au
||
||**********************************************
||
||CSA TWO
||
||
||(SFX)
||VOICE 1
||A message from ASWA, the Australian Severe Weather Association.
||
||VOICE2
||On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
||tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
||
||When the storm strikes protect yourself by
||Stay inside and shelter well clear of windows, in the strongest part of the
||house.
||If necessary, cover yourself with a mattress, blanket, doona or tarpaulin,
||under a table or bench.
||If your driving, stop clear of trees, power lines or streams.
||and avoid using the telephone during a storm.
||
||This safety message has been bought to you by ASWA , the Australian Severe
||Weather Association.
||
||VOICE 1
||To find out more about Server Weather contact ASWA via the Internet at
||www.severeweather.asn.au
||
||
||**********************************************
||
||CSA THREE
||
||
||(SFX)
||On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
||tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
||
||The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
||which was formed due to the great demand of those who were fascinated with
||severe weather.
||
||The aim of ASWA is not only to provide a platform for discussion in severe
||weather, but also in research and education.
||
||Any interested in storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
||and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
||others across the country.
||
||If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
||severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
||Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
||www.severeweather.asn.au
||
||**********************************************
||
||CSA FOUR
||
||On average, each year severe storms are responsible for more damage than
||tropical cyclones, earthquakes, floods or bushfires.
||
||The Australian Severe Weather Association (or ASWA) is an organisation
||whose aim is to provide a platform for discussion in severe weather but
||also to research and educate the public which hopefully will save lives and
||property.
||
||Any interested storm spotters, SES and fire brigade personal, farmers,
||and anyone who may have an interest in severe weather can now link up with
||others in this network.
||
||If you are effected by severe storms, tropical cyclones, east coast lows,
||severe winter snow falls or would just like to know more. Contact the
||Server Weather Association ,ASWA on the Internet at
||
||www.severeweather.asn.au
||
||
||******************************************
||Grant Boyden
||
||http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden
||http://www.2ky.com.au
||
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:58:35 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SOI on the ABC
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Hi all,
I just thought I'd also mention that fluctuations between -10 and +10
are relatively common, it's when values are <-10 and +10> that they're
considered "significant." Although, if it's somewhat negative for a
long period of time (eg -5/-6) then you'll feel some mild effects of an
El Nino..
Anthony
Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> Today's 30 day average (the one the ABC uses) is 1.8. It was down to
> just below zero earlier in the week. The 90 day average is 7.31. The
> latest probability for rainfall indicates a 'rapidly falling' phase
> (there are 5 'phases' altogether, I think).
> Paul is correct in that, before you start to worry about a bad season,
> the 30 day average would have to be below zero for a whole month or so.
>
> Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> >
> > When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points - eg from +
> > 11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I think its
> > about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last weekend).
> >
> > So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
> >
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:33:17 +1000
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
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At 21:18 3/06/99 , you wrote:
I suspect
>that up to this time, there was no planetary rotation..for streams to
>come up from the earth's surface there would have had to be a daily
>cycle of evapotranspiration and condensation.
Sorry?? "No rotation"??
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:23:39 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> Imagine poor Noah's (and his family's) reaction to the weather that was
> going on..
Hey, I don't want to get into a religious debate here but there are
many hypothesise that explain the legend of Noah as it might be passed
from generation to generation since the arrival of homo sapien sapien
in Europe and the Middle East. Remember also that the Bible is also
an ancient work of literature subject to many translations albeit as
precise as language of those times might allow.
We do know from archeology and scientific studies that the last
Ice Age ended perhaps 12,000 years ago (thereabouts that time).
See levels were over 100m lower than they are today (I could dig
up precise figures). Evidence is pointing to a somewhat abrupt
end to the last ice age that would account for most of the sea
level rise taking place within a generation or two. That's more
than enough time to move ones family and animal possessions via
a reasonably-sized raft/boat to another location. Despite this
hypothesis, Ice-Age people would have found the going very tough
at these times forcing the relocation of many coastal villages
and much change in the weather from Ice-Age times. Many legends
would arise from such events. One perhaps surviving within our
Bible (no offence intended to other religeous groups).
I think we can dispense with hypothesise that talk about the
Earth opening up releasing subterranean water, the Earth's
rotation stopping etc. While I agree that something like Noah's
flood did happen, the circumstances that might result in such
a legend can be explained without resorting to any extreme
hypothesis. I suggest that like all accounts handed down from
generation to generation, many details are subject to change
and misinterpretation by the memories and scribes of each time
with the basic meaning remaining. Remember that very few people
could write out of a given population even 2000 years ago, let
alone further back than that. That makes the precise recording
of these events even less likely.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:06:08 +1000
Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Heavy rain on northern NSW coast
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Heavy rains continues....................
Port Macquarie is receiving heavy rain right now....and has most of the night.
Nice surprise last night with a nice little thunderstorm with CG lightning,
squally 40 km/h winds and torrential rain was most welcome!
Still raining quite heavy....would be very interested to know rainfall figures?
Laurier, Mark Hardy or Balir can you assist???
Paul at Port.
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:24:43 +1000
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Coffs harbour got a mention in our weather summary this morning with
107mm in the 18 hours to 3am this morning.. 8:15am at the moment and
rain/showery areas over both Ballina and Coffs Harbour.. BOM have issued
a severe weather warning for the Mid-North coast which i have pasted
below..
Going over the models this morning, it's a mugs game at the moment..
comparing the models to each other is quite frustrating.. i think it's
times like these when you need several years of forecasting experience..
BOM is going for increasing showers in Brisbane and Heavy at times on
the Gold Coast (south of Brisbane), blue sky here at the moment..
looking at the obs around the place, I can't see much happening until
the winds on the coast become more onshore..
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE WEATHER ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 0318 on Friday the 4th of June 1999
The advice affects people in the following weather districts:
Mid-North Coast
Local very heavy rainfall and possible flash flooding is expected within
the
advice area until tonight.
Rainfall heavy enough to cause local flooding has been reported from
Coffs
Harbour.
Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> Some good falls in the 3 hours to 9pm Thursday -- Coffs Harbour 22
> with storm in past hour reported, Evans Head 12, Newcastle Nobbys 11
> and Taree AP 8. Williamtown had 24mm between 9am and noon in a
> thunderstorm.
>
> Grafton radar 10.20pm is showing some good cells (yellow) off the
> coast near Coffs moving from the SE.
>
> --
> Laurier Williams
> Australian Weather Links and News
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Hi every1,
For those that wanted a look at the satpic from the storms of 16/11/96 the
shot is on my web site:
http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/requests.html
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:06:08 +1000, Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
>
>Heavy rains continues....................
>
>Port Macquarie is receiving heavy rain right now....and has most of the night.
>Nice surprise last night with a nice little thunderstorm with CG lightning,
>squally 40 km/h winds and torrential rain was most welcome!
>
>Still raining quite heavy....would be very interested to know rainfall figures?
>
>Laurier, Mark Hardy or Balir can you assist???
>
Coffs Harbour had 78mm between midnight and 3am, Port Mac 27mm 6 to
9am (of which 8.6mm fell in 10 mins to 8am) and Smoky Cape 45mm 9am to
noon. The only other sig rainfall 9am to noon was 6mm at Port Mac AP.
If you look at the half-hourly AWS obs for Coffs on the new current
AWS reports link on my site, you'll see that it was quite consistent
heavy rain over the three hours.
BTW, the current AWS and synoptic reports are updated hourly about 20
minutes past the hour, so in situations like this it's worth checking
in about 25 past the hour to get the latest information.
Coffs topped the 24-hour rainlist with 121mm. Others were:
NORTHERN RIVERS:
Alstonville 30 Ballina 28 Ballina Ap 44 Cape Byron 7
Casino 6 Casino Ap AWS 7 Coolangatta AWS 5 Evans Head AWS 39
Grafton 4 Lismore 21 Mullumbimby 9 Murwillumbah 5 Nimbin 11
Woodburn 45 Yamba 45
MID-NORTH COAST:
Bellbrook 4 Bulahdelah 46 Coffs Harbour 121 Dorrigo 11
Forster 28 Gloucester 3 Kempsey 12 Laurieton 45 Lorne 47
Macksville 6 Mt Seaview 10 Port Macquarie 52
Pt Macquarie AWS 65 Seal Rocks 10 Smoky Cape 38 Taree AP AWS 28
Wauchope 22
HUNTER:
Carrowbrook 7 Cessnock 3 Cessnock Ap AWS 4 Clarence Town 22
Denman 0.6 Gosford 23 Gosford RN 21 Hunter Springs 3
Jerrys Plains 1 Lostock Dam 7 Maitland 19 Mangrove MT AWS 8
Newcastle Uni 43 Nobbys Head 19 Norah Head AWS 3
Peats Ridge 17 Scone Ap AWS 0.2 Stroud 17 Tocal 14
Upper Chichester 13 Williamtown 32
--
Laurier Williams
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 06:38:22 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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No worries Keith,
I think I am following you. I have my max/min horizontal now and its
working a treat.
Taa,
Lindsay
Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> I may have confused all and sundry Lindsay in that I was referring to
> separate max and min thermometers..the max is the 'doctor's' one but the
> min has an index, just like Mr Six's (so too does the grass min only it
> has no wooden support). In any event they are all mounted almost
> horizontally. The trouble with the Six's thermometer is that the scale
> is shown vertically so if it's horizontally mounted it'll obviously be a
> bit harder to read. Still that's better than a slipping marker and thus
> no reading at all (or a very wrong one)...
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Keith! What a smart idea!
> >
> > You're a champion! Why didn't I think of that. Multiple heads are always
> > better than one when it comes to good ideas.
> >
> > I like that saying. "The difference between a wise person and a foolish
> > person is that the wise person knows how foolish they are." It applies
> > to learning about the weather and I certainly have much to learn about
> > such things and mind you, I'm not afraid to ask.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Lindsay P.
> > PS: They shoulda included that above saying in the bible. Maybe it was
> > in the original, in Aramaic or Hebrew. ;-)
> > Keith Barnett wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't seen a push button one Lindsay but with the BoM standard one I
> > > use (it's like a giant doctor's thermometer you shake down every day) I
> > > mount it almost horizontally (in a Stevenson screen), the bulb slightly
> > > lower than the other end. You might minimise the slipping marker if you
> > > can do this with your one.
> > > Hope this helps...
> > >
> > > Lindsay wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me with a max/min thermometer problem.
> > > >
> > > > The marker keeps sliding down on the maximum side, so it is hard to get
> > > > an accurate reading. It's one of those push button ones, that you reset
> > > > daily. When I turn it upside down and let the markers "Drain" to the top
> > > > of the thermometer and then release them, it seems to help somewhat but
> > > > the problem seems to persist. What is the process involved in these
> > > > thermometers? How do they work?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know of places that I can purchase a moderately priced
> > > > max/min thermometer if this one ends up being stuffed?
> > > >
> > > > Also, apologies if I haven't got back to anyone that has emailed me. As
> > > > I said, I've been out of action for two weeks.
> > > >
> > > > Lindsay Pearce
> > > >
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:10:05 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Laurier,
Sounds great. Get back to me re a good time for us to do this. My
mobility is limited just now, I've stuffed up my back (pinched nerve)
and I'm feeling a lot older than 33 just now, dammit.
I have a basic homemade S.Screen, (white with louvres) and it is
surprisingly accurate for home weather records. It isn't directly out in
the open, as it should be, but it is in a reasonable good spot that
channels the wind well, so there is almost always some sort of breeze to
mix up the air, especially being high on the escarpment as we are. I
can't afford a proper S.Screen so this will have to suffice, for now. I
guess I can't really have an ideal weather monitoring situation on a
typical house block, with trees and building radiation etc.
Cheers,
Lindsay Pearce
PS: Still saving for some Lowther or Goodforest acres to set up a real
station! :-)
> On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:32:15 -0700, Lindsay
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks John,
> >
> >I just rang up National Parks and Wildlife here in Blackheath and their
> >weather station (worth thousands of dollars more than mine) gave me a
> >reading of 11.8 degrees at 4:30pm. My min/max had 11.5 and my wet bulb
> >and thermometer combo had 12. So, I am presuming these reasonably cheap
> >instruments are accurate enough for home records, I guess? The NPWS
> >station is about 500 metres from my place so I reason that its a
> >reasonable representation of my area too, same alitude and similar
> >surrounds. Would that be fair to say?
>
> Hi Lindsay. Temperature, especially by day, can vary considerably
> depending on exposure. If you're going to compare your thermometer
> with one more than a metre or so away, do it on a windy night, when
> good mixing will result in an even temperature over a wide area
> provided the altitude is within 30m or so. There's also no problem
> from sunshine or reflected radiation. The thermometer should be out in
> the open, not under awnings or trees.
>
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From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Kevin and others,
Some good thoughts there to sift through. I'm just trying to work out
the possibility of snow on the Central Tablelands this season. We had
quite a lot of rain last winter and some fun falls up here, including a
blizzard, whereas the year before, the SOI was negative and we had
hardly any snow except for one night that I recall.
Lindsay Pearce.
Keith Barnett wrote:
>
> Today's 30 day average (the one the ABC uses) is 1.8. It was down to
> just below zero earlier in the week. The 90 day average is 7.31. The
> latest probability for rainfall indicates a 'rapidly falling' phase
> (there are 5 'phases' altogether, I think).
> Paul is correct in that, before you start to worry about a bad season,
> the 30 day average would have to be below zero for a whole month or so.
>
> Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> >
> > When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points - eg from +
> > 11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I think its
> > about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last weekend).
> >
> > So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
> >
> >
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Thanks Blair,
On that note, how is it looking for this season by your reckoning?
> I don't think it has ever got as far as a paper, but Clem Davis of the
> Canberra Met. Office had a piece - in FHM, of all places - on
> influences on snowfall - there's also been a bit of back-of-the-
> envelope work done here. It seems that a warm eastern Pacific (= El
> Nino) is bad for snow (too little precipitation), as is a warm Indian
> Ocean (too much rain); the good years tend to be the ones in between
> (i.e. the average ones).
>
> (The resorts cope better with a dry winter these days than they did in,
> say, 1982, because such conditions are ideal for snowmaking. Not a lot
> they can do about warm, rainy winters though).
>
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SOI on the ABC
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Lindsay,
Where are you, I spend alot of time (almost every weekend) in Taralga which
is in the far north of the Southern Tablelands, about 20 Km east of the top
of the divide. The latter makes it very frustrating on many occasions where
Crookwell and the like (even Oberon) are getting snow and we get the dregs.
We had one good fall last year (the one that caused all the havoc) but it
only lasted half a day - it started raining after a wind shift!! We haven't
had what used to be an annual good fall for many years now and I believe
this is SOI related - it's been cold enough, but too dry!
Andrew
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> From: Lindsay
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: SOI on the ABC
> Date: Saturday, 5 June 1999 4:25
>
> Thanks Kevin and others,
>
> Some good thoughts there to sift through. I'm just trying to work out
> the possibility of snow on the Central Tablelands this season. We had
> quite a lot of rain last winter and some fun falls up here, including a
> blizzard, whereas the year before, the SOI was negative and we had
> hardly any snow except for one night that I recall.
>
>
>
>
> Lindsay Pearce.
>
> Keith Barnett wrote:
> >
> > Today's 30 day average (the one the ABC uses) is 1.8. It was down to
> > just below zero earlier in the week. The 90 day average is 7.31. The
> > latest probability for rainfall indicates a 'rapidly falling' phase
> > (there are 5 'phases' altogether, I think).
> > Paul is correct in that, before you start to worry about a bad season,
> > the 30 day average would have to be below zero for a whole month or so.
> >
> > Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> > >
> > > When they say negative it means that it actually fell a few points -
eg from +
> > > 11 to +9 (a loss of 2) - the SOI is still way into the positive (I
think its
> > > about +9 - last time I saw it on Weather 21 - which was last
weekend).
> > >
> > > So dont go slashing your wrists yet......................
> > >
> > >
>
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:33:04 +1000
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Grant Boyden wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> For the last month Jim and myself have been working on a media campaign for
> the NSW div of ASWA.
I need to think about these CSA's some more. I'll reply again on Monday.
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Just as a sideline.....Syney has received very little in the way of rain. Just one
or 2 showers
Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> Heavy rains continues....................
>
> Port Macquarie is receiving heavy rain right now....and has most of the night.
> Nice surprise last night with a nice little thunderstorm with CG lightning,
> squally 40 km/h winds and torrential rain was most welcome!
>
> Still raining quite heavy....would be very interested to know rainfall figures?
>
> Laurier, Mark Hardy or Balir can you assist???
>
> Paul at Port.
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Possibly lower SOI's lead to higher CAPE's...The correlation being that less
cloudiness means more surface heating...Just a theory.
- Paul G.
>From: "James Chambers"
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>Subject: aus-wx: SOI and severe t'storms
>Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:22:54 +1000
>
>Hi All
>
>If the SOI 'trend' continues to decrease like it has been recently that
>could be good news for those wanting a good storm season - in the Brisbane
>area anyway.
>
>Jeff Callaghan, the head of the Severe Weather Section of the Brisbane BoM
>has compiled a list: "Notable Severe Thunderstorms in the Greater Brisbane
>(Including Redcliffe and Ipswich) Since January 1955"...
>"Relationship with the S.O.I."
>
>He found that of 61 very serious events since 1955, 45 of those occurred
>while the SOI was negative, the remaining 16 during positive phases. "The
>average SOI at the time of severe t'storm occurrence is -2.5". So from
>those numbers you could obviously say in the Brisbane area there is a
>higher
>probability of severe storms during periods of negative SOI then positive
>SOI. A very interesting finding - a trend too broad to believe it was only
>coincidence.
>
>It would be interesting to have a similar study across the whole country.
>
>Regards
>------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:11:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
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--- James Chambers wrote:
> Hi All
>
> If the SOI 'trend' continues to decrease like it has
> been recently that
> could be good news for those wanting a good storm
> season - in the Brisbane
> area anyway.
That is really interesting. I have wondered for quite a while whether
there was some significant correlation between the SOI and probability
of thunderstorms; in Sydney that is. I know there was a hail study
being conducted to that end although haven't heard anything come out of
it.
A while ago I did a 'visual inspection' (probably not too scientific)
and could see no trend between the frequency of severe thunderstorms in
Sydney and SOI being +ve, -ve (
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml ). Still, in order
to see what's really happening, and reduce the background noise of
season-season variation over a small area, a rigorous statistical study
would probably need to take in a larger area, as did the Brisbane
study. I hope someone has the time and inclination to do it!
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 17:23:56 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at rmitel.com.au]
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Hi David and all,
This is an interesting point about CAPE, I know a lot of people thought
SE QLD had a "bumper year" for thunderstorms, and yes, there certainly
was a few - but only about average (if that!) However, my point was
that while I received an average number of thunderdays at my house,
about half of these included a few rumbles of thunder from distant pulse
storms - and I envisage that this would have been fairly uniform across
much of the SE QLD area. There were two reasons for this...the first
was that there was often weak caps, and by mid-late morning it was
already mostly cloudy! This can normally be counter-balanced by NW-N-NE
winds, however very rarely were they present last summer.
Secondly - the jetstream was pretty poor, yes the jetstream does die in
summer for us (hence why Nov/Dec is the best for us) but in mid-Dec, the
jet was fairly poor...now, I haven't had enough experience with the wx
to know much about El-Nino vs La-Nina upper level winds, but La Nina/El
Nino alters the "walker circulation" - sometimes an El Nino can even
reverse this...perhaps this effects the patterns of upper level winds -
and the positioning and strength of the "sub-tropical jetstream" - only
a month ago, Brisbane was experiencing 120-150kn winds at the 200-300mb
level, and it was at this stage that there were signs the La Nina were
weakening...
Anyone care to comment?
Anthony from Brisbane
David Croan wrote:
>
> --- James Chambers wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > If the SOI 'trend' continues to decrease like it has
> > been recently that
> > could be good news for those wanting a good storm
> > season - in the Brisbane
> > area anyway.
>
> That is really interesting. I have wondered for quite a while whether
> there was some significant correlation between the SOI and probability
> of thunderstorms; in Sydney that is. I know there was a hail study
> being conducted to that end although haven't heard anything come out of
> it.
>
> A while ago I did a 'visual inspection' (probably not too scientific)
> and could see no trend between the frequency of severe thunderstorms in
> Sydney and SOI being +ve, -ve (
> http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/soihtm1.shtml ). Still, in order
> to see what's really happening, and reduce the background noise of
> season-season variation over a small area, a rigorous statistical study
> would probably need to take in a larger area, as did the Brisbane
> study. I hope someone has the time and inclination to do it!
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sol's family
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:56:43 +1000
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Michael S, I was going to keep my mouth shut as I could see a real debate
here, but you have tempted me along as well.
I agree with all you said and that would be a great scenario for a worldwide
flood if your world was the Tigris and Euphrates delta.
Michael
> We do know from archeology and scientific studies that the last
> Ice Age ended perhaps 12,000 years ago (thereabouts that time).
> See levels were over 100m lower than they are today (I could dig
> up precise figures). Evidence is pointing to a somewhat abrupt
> end to the last ice age that would account for most of the sea
> level rise taking place within a generation or two. That's more
> than enough time to move ones family and animal possessions via
> a reasonably-sized raft/boat to another location. Despite this
> hypothesis, Ice-Age people would have found the going very tough
> at these times forcing the relocation of many coastal villages
> and much change in the weather from Ice-Age times. Many legends
> would arise from such events. One perhaps surviving within our
> Bible (no offence intended to other religeous groups).
>
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