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001 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Las Vegas Weather
002 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Las Vegas Weather
003 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Rain in Northern Territory
004 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Rain in Northern Territory
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Re: Las Vegas Rain
007 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] rain in Sydney
008 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] rain in Sydney
009 "Presenter" [presenter at weather21.com.au] Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North Coast O
010 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject)
011 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Fwd: GMS Satellite
012 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au rain in Sydney - Special feature Low Cloud.
013 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. unathorised use of copyright images
014 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Canberra Wx
015 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au LV Rain & Mid North Coast Obs.
016 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Thick FOG in Adelaide
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Las Vegas Weather
018 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] ASWA AGM
019 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Winter, what winter?
020 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au ECL - ????
021 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] ECL - ????
022 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au ECL - ????
023 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] ECL - ????
024 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au ECL - ????
025 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] ECL - ????
026 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject)
027 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] rain in Sydney
028 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Las Vegas Weather
029 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au ECL - ????
030 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Las Vegas Weather
031 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Current Obs.
032 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Las Vegas Weather
033 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Sydney - a soggy forecast
034 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] West to get action overnight
035 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Winter, what winter?
036 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] (no subject)
037 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Very heavy rain in So. Illawarra
038 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North Coast O
039 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] rain in Sydney
040 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Re:
041 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Re:
042 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Re:
043 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
044 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Orange weather
045 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Winter, what winter?
046 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] rain in Sydney
047 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Early storm signs????
048 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Early storm signs????
049 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Trip to Melbourne and Sydney Rain
050 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Early storm signs????
051 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Winter, what winter?
052 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Strong Wind Warning: NSW
053 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Looking like some heavy rain to hit South Illawarra
054 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Re:
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001
From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Las Vegas Weather
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:26:16 +1000
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I think the figure mentoined was 7.5 inches and it was mentioned as being greater than the annual average.
John.
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Sent: Sunday, 11 July 1999 22:17
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Las Vegas Weather
Don,
There was some footage on ABC TV news on
Saturday night (I think) showing scenes
of water flowing through the streets.
Also showed shots of vehicles washed away
along drainage lines and made the point
that a lot of locals - unused to any
significant precipitation - panicked and
engaged in inappropriate escape activities
(like crossing flooded streams etc).
Can't recall if the report actually
mentioned a rainfall figure. I think I
would have remembered a figure as high
as you are quoting...
Patrick
>
>Having just come back from a few day's break, I read a press report on
>freak storms in Las Vegas, fdumping 750 mm in several hours !
>750 ??? - hard to believe when the annual average is less than 100 mm
>but does anyone know anything more about these recent events ?
>Don White
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Hi Don
There was an article on it in the telegraph in sydney a couple of days
ago.. i think possibly friday or saturdays paper, in the "world news"
section it was the first story,and it had a photo of a road washed away.
Matt Smith
>Having just come back from a few day's break, I read a press report on
>freak storms in Las Vegas, fdumping 750 mm in several hours !
>750 ??? - hard to believe when the annual average is less than 100 mm
>but does anyone know anything more about these recent events ?
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:38:59 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Northern Territory
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Hi all,
Does anyone know anything about this rain that is indicated
on the rainfall map from the bom?
This must be near or over 4 times there annual rainfall if
this is right and all in the last week!!
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/weeke.shtml
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:32:02 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Michael,
Curtin Springs (SE of Ularu)reported 989 mm for the week - obviously a
coding error - it should have been 0.8 or 0.9 mm but "got through" the
system all the way.
Don White
Michael Fewings wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know anything about this rain that is indicated
> on the rainfall map from the bom?
>
> This must be near or over 4 times there annual rainfall if
> this is right and all in the last week!!
>
> http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/weeke.shtml
>
> Cheers
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:16:18 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North
Coast Obs.
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Howdy Don, Patrick & All..
My Nan is currently in LA (amazing.....) and I ran her to ask what the figure
was as the media here reported there was 75mm (which I thought was strange as
they Americans use inches ..) so I got her to check - She was told 7.5 inches
(which sounds about right - which is what Patrick Thought). She was lucky not to
be involved in the major flooding, but she did describe the rain as sounding
"like a freight train".
--> Terry Bishop - I thought I read an email saying he was going offline for a
few weeks.....not sure though.
Good rains here on the weekend - total for weekend is 35mm most received Sunday
Morning - Night. Monthly total now is some 50mm which is 2/3 the average
already. If this Low does take off - which is looking doubtful I reckon - we
could be in for major flooding in the area as there is allot of water lying
around, and the river is already running fresh.
Presently large CB just off the Coast (Id say about 50kms) with ominous dark
bases, but no major organisation as yet. Still there is some decent convection
going on.............
PS - A Big thankyou for the excellent team at Weather21 - I rang there viewer
feedback line to let them know of the rain we had received (as the radar
coverage is poor) and the Presenter on the day, Alan Humphries rang me back and
had a great chat!! Was most welcome!
One thing that Alan and I noted was the direction that the rain was coming from
the NE!! - considering the BOM had gone for SE'ers .
So if you have any interesting Weather - let the Team at Weather21 know as they
love real time data, especially from viewers, and they may even mention your
name on National TV!!
Paul at Port.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:18:13 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Las Vegas Rain
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D'oh I just read my email.........and realised that I put Angeles instead of
Vegas.....D'Oh!!!!!!!
Should be Las vegas....apologies for Monday morning dumbness....
Paul at Port.
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Hi
38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
Matthew Smith
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain in Sydney
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Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
>
>Matthew Smith
>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North Coast Obs.
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:45:14 +1000
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>> So if you have any interesting Weather - let the Team at
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain in Sydney
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Been raining steadily here in North Sydney since about 9pm last night. Was
heavy at time through the evening. Currently eased back to light rain, but
low cloud half way down the higher buildings.
MH
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>From: Jimmy Deguara
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain in Sydney
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 9:30 AM
>
> Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
> Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
> At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
>>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
>>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
>>
>>Matthew Smith
>>
>>ASWA Committee Member
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:03:24 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: GMS Satellite
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Those interest in cyclones and hurricanes.... keep watch of this site
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html
I will leave it to you all to watch out and find out from where you would
get the new data.
Jimmy Deguara
>Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 19:47:44 -0500 (CDT)
>From: pmeyer at rimeice.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul J. Meyer)
>To: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
>Subject: GMS Satellite
>Reply-To: paul.meyer at msfc.nasa.gov
>
>Jimmy,
>
> Thanks for the reminder to check it. I noticed where Hawaii had come
>up for a short while, then dropped out. It appears to have come up again,
>and now has been down again. I know they were doing some MAJOR changes.
>They upgraded computer OS to Linux, I believe they had to run new cables
>and power lines to the dishes etc. This required trenches etc to be dug.
>Haven't heard anything from University of Hawaii in a week. I will e-mail
>them in about 14 hours. Hopefully, I will receive a response in 20 or so
>hours from now, so I can get you a response in about 1 day. Isn't it
>great being "upside down" from one another and about 1/2 a day.
>
> We just added a new hurricane "sector" view. Our largest data set yet.
>Each underlying image is 18 MBytes, hopefully we get some really good views
>of this years hurricanes.
>
> As always, great hearing from you. Hopefully, we can get the GMS imagery
>more stable. We are still attempting to do more precise navigation of this
>sensor at our end, but keep running into problems.
>
>Best regards,
>Paul
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It was the same here on Sunday - with Low cloud to I would say 500ft even
obscurring small "hills" including the hills on Oxley & Mitchells Island........
Not raining here - still overcast and no wind.
Paul at Port.
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain in Sydney
Been raining steadily here in North Sydney since about 9pm last night. Was
heavy at time through the evening. Currently eased back to light rain, but
low cloud half way down the higher buildings.
MH
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>From: Jimmy Deguara
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: rain in Sydney
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 9:30 AM
>
> Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
> Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
> At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
>>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
>>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
>>
>>Matthew Smith
>>
>>ASWA Committee Member
>>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:27:08 +1000
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Michael Bath wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> When you're browsing the net and come across weather images that look
> familiar (ie. they are yours or someone you know), note if the images
> are credited in any way - photographers, links back.
>
> James Chambers brought to my attention a site using one of our Hail
> pics, totally unauthorised at:
> http://fieldhockey.net/fieldhockeydita/goalsticdith.html
Good point Michael. This mob seem to have fixed up the problem
already...
[snip]
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Hi all,
No rain received in Canberra as yet we have overcast
conditions with showers visible to the N and NW.
The sky looks a bit like a summer trough morning
A few precipitating alto cumulus with a some cu
starting to form over the Brindabellas. A few Ci
visible through holes in the AC.
Middle level cloud coming from NNW, surface winds
from ESE.
I would expect some decent showers later on.
Patrick
PS John Woodbridge should get the credit for
having the right figure for the Las Vegas rain.
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Patrick - Noted - welld one John!
Currently heavy "sun shower" falling here at the moment.
Paul at Port Macquarie.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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> Hi everyone,
>
> At approx 8:45pm local time, a band of Thick fog had moved in over
> Paralowie, 20km's North of Adelaide, visability is reduced to approx 30
> meters. Looks like a very foggy night in store for us.
This was quite an interesting event. I was in South Australia over
the weekend and, coming north towards Adelaide, ran into thick fog
just north of Meningie (on the coast, 150km SE of Adelaide) at about
4 p.m. This persisted until near the top of the Adelaide Hills. I
believe that fog locally persisted all day around the Murray River.
There were also areas of fog around Adelaide during Sunday morning.
The football commentators were making a big deal of it, but I wouldn't
have said there was anything more than haze by the time I got to the
game at 1.15.
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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> I think the figure mentoined was 7.5 inches and it was mentioned as being greater than the annual average.
>
> John.
>
The media reports I've seen said 75mm, but 7.5 inches would also
seem credible to me, given the apparent scale of the flooding.
Las Vegas Airport has only recorded 1.33 inches (33mm) for the month
so far, but, as I'm sure most of you would be aware, thunderstorm
flooding can be very localised (and I don't know how far out of town
Las Vegas Airport is).
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:12:01 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
For those who don't know yet - I will be attending the ASWA AGM in
Sydney (July 31, Saturday night). I look forward to meeting everyone
down there - and putting my two bob worth in! And I hope to meet many
other travellers and/or interstaters as well!
Just thought I'd let everyone know...it's still not too late to say
you're coming too, but you'll need to tell Jimmy soon!
Anthony Cornelius (from Brisbane)
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:39:48 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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RE our winter so far, Don White's thoughts in the Telegraph today, 12/7
seem to confirm my fears.
Why couldn't I have been born a hundred years ago. :-(
Lindsay P.
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Howdy all.
The radio announcers here have just made a big deal of the BOM's revised
forecast for the next 4 days being upgraded or downgraded to rain.
I am interested to hear if that's because they suspect that the Low will
intensify or for what reasons? Anyone want to take a shot at it? It doesn't look
like ECL action here at the moment - its overcast with the occasional shower but
the sky has that "light" look about it with no dark ominous patches anywhere.
Last ECL that I remember the sky was very dark with deep convection occurring
out to sea the day before action developed. Quite the opposite here at the
moment.
Paul at Port Macquarie.
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Hi Paul
Models are indicating a rain situation, the low staying off the coast (if i
remember) but rain all down the NSW coast.AVN predicted it a few days ago,
as did MRF, and now GASP has caught on as well, should be interesting none
the less
So far 8mm today, and the sun is shining for the 1st time today as i write
this.
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>
>
>Howdy all.
>
>The radio announcers here have just made a big deal of the BOM's revised
>forecast for the next 4 days being upgraded or downgraded to rain.
>
>I am interested to hear if that's because they suspect that the Low will
>intensify or for what reasons? Anyone want to take a shot at it? It
doesn't look
>like ECL action here at the moment - its overcast with the occasional
shower but
>the sky has that "light" look about it with no dark ominous patches anywhere.
>
>Last ECL that I remember the sky was very dark with deep convection occurring
>out to sea the day before action developed. Quite the opposite here at the
>moment.
>
>Paul at Port Macquarie.
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Howdy there Matt!
Hmm I hope so.........it would be great to see a decent rain event.
I would say that we havnt even had more then 2mm today so far.....maybe a rain
event for Southern NSW Coast?
Rgds,
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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> Hi Paul
>
> Models are indicating a rain situation, the low staying off the coast (if i
> remember) but rain all down the NSW coast.AVN predicted it a few days ago,
> as did MRF, and now GASP has caught on as well, should be interesting none
> the less
>
The latest ECMWF run has a deep low off the northern NSW coast - I'd
guess that is what the revised NSW forecast is responding to.
Blair Trewin
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Thanx Blair.
Just seems strange............maybe Northern NSW is experiencing the
winds..........but it is very still here.
Maybe the calm before the storm?
Any estimates yet as what wind speeds are expected?
Paul.
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>From the far north coast NSW:
Moderate to large sized cumulus about and stratocu, with an isolated
shower, though looking more like showers to the east now. Some cirrus as
well and light E/SW (?) winds.
Michael
PS. Just bought land today for a home at McLeans Ridges, about 4km NNW from
where I live now. It is the northern most ridge of the Alstonville plateau
and faces north towards the Lismore (Wilson River 150m below) flood plain,
and then with 180 views from W-N-E to the Border Ranges - a weather watches
dream site!
At 15:18 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Thanx Blair.
>
>Just seems strange............maybe Northern NSW is experiencing the
>winds..........but it is very still here.
>
>Maybe the calm before the storm?
>
>Any estimates yet as what wind speeds are expected?
>
>Paul.
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Meso LAPS is going for an ECL to form off the north coast over the next 24
hours. Precip prog has around 100mm of rain over a broad area of coast from
Ulladulla to Coffs Harbour.
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>
>
>
> Thanx Blair.
>
> Just seems strange............maybe Northern NSW is experiencing the
> winds..........but it is very still here.
>
> Maybe the calm before the storm?
>
> Any estimates yet as what wind speeds are expected?
>
> Paul.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:59:09 +1000
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Jimmy...
TOP METOP FALLS WERE 55 AT MOSMAN, 54 NORTHBRIDGE 53 LITTLE BAY AND
COOGEE, 52 ROSE BAY AND ALMOST THAT IN THE CITY.
Don
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
> Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
> At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
> >10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
> >and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
> >
> >Matthew Smith
> >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:02:54 +1000
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Thanks for the information - I now gather 100-150 mm of rain fell
between 10.30 am and 11.30 am in the NW of the city. The air port, from
memory (hazy in more ways than one) from my last visit in 1975 is to the
Se of the main strip. Strange time for a storm of that quality and
location, don't you think??
Don White
Blair Trewin wrote:
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> >
> > I think the figure mentoined was 7.5 inches and it was mentioned as being greater than the annual average.
> >
> > John.
> >
> The media reports I've seen said 75mm, but 7.5 inches would also
> seem credible to me, given the apparent scale of the flooding.
>
> Las Vegas Airport has only recorded 1.33 inches (33mm) for the month
> so far, but, as I'm sure most of you would be aware, thunderstorm
> flooding can be very localised (and I don't know how far out of town
> Las Vegas Airport is).
>
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Mark - yet again a wealth of information......thanx.
Might start building the ark now...............
'
Paul.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:26:31 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Don,
in a way, it would be somewhat unusual, but on Jan 28, 1998 we had some
very heavy storm rains, up to 150mm in 90mins in some places. This
occurred at lunch time, I remember this event, because the drains at
school blocked up, and we were all standing on tables and chairs as the
quadrangle flooded with water. To my knowledge, storm tops reached 16km
during these storms, but more storms north of Brisbane formed with tops
to 18.9km.
At 9am, CAPE was 1995 and LI's were -6.5 - but the cap was very weak,
which was why the storms occurred so early. I'm presuming that a
similar scenario occurred in Las Vegas. The PW values were also high,
about 55 - but moisture advection plays a large part in flood rain
storms.
Anthony Cornelius
Don White wrote:
>
> Thanks for the information - I now gather 100-150 mm of rain fell
> between 10.30 am and 11.30 am in the NW of the city. The air port, from
> memory (hazy in more ways than one) from my last visit in 1975 is to the
> Se of the main strip. Strange time for a storm of that quality and
> location, don't you think??
> Don White
> Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think the figure mentoined was 7.5 inches and it was mentioned as being greater than the annual average.
> > >
> > > John.
> > >
> > The media reports I've seen said 75mm, but 7.5 inches would also
> > seem credible to me, given the apparent scale of the flooding.
> >
> > Las Vegas Airport has only recorded 1.33 inches (33mm) for the month
> > so far, but, as I'm sure most of you would be aware, thunderstorm
> > flooding can be very localised (and I don't know how far out of town
> > Las Vegas Airport is).
> >
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Howdy all......well........it is starting to look ominous now..........so maybe
there is something about to happen.......hmm.
(and its not just because the sun will set soon either!)
Paul at Port.
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There is some footage of the floods on
the US Weather Channel site at
http://www.weather.com/weather_center/full_story/full1.html
The site also advises that flash flood
watches continue for the SW US with
more storms forecast on top of recent
rains.
Only 1 or 2 light showers so far in
Canberra. BoM has upgraded to showers
tending to rain periods for us
tomorrow.
Patrick
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>Hi Don,
>
>in a way, it would be somewhat unusual, but on Jan 28, 1998 we had some
>very heavy storm rains, up to 150mm in 90mins in some places. This
>occurred at lunch time, I remember this event, because the drains at
>school blocked up, and we were all standing on tables and chairs as the
>quadrangle flooded with water. To my knowledge, storm tops reached 16km
>during these storms, but more storms north of Brisbane formed with tops
>to 18.9km.
>
>At 9am, CAPE was 1995 and LI's were -6.5 - but the cap was very weak,
>which was why the storms occurred so early. I'm presuming that a
>similar scenario occurred in Las Vegas. The PW values were also high,
>about 55 - but moisture advection plays a large part in flood rain
>storms.
>
>Anthony Cornelius
>
>Don White wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the information - I now gather 100-150 mm of rain fell
> > between 10.30 am and 11.30 am in the NW of the city. The air port, from
> > memory (hazy in more ways than one) from my last visit in 1975 is to the
> > Se of the main strip. Strange time for a storm of that quality and
> > location, don't you think??
> > Don White
> > Blair Trewin wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think the figure mentoined was 7.5 inches and it was mentioned as
>being greater than the annual average.
> > > >
> > > > John.
> > > >
> > > The media reports I've seen said 75mm, but 7.5 inches would also
> > > seem credible to me, given the apparent scale of the flooding.
> > >
> > > Las Vegas Airport has only recorded 1.33 inches (33mm) for the month
> > > so far, but, as I'm sure most of you would be aware, thunderstorm
> > > flooding can be very localised (and I don't know how far out of town
> > > Las Vegas Airport is).
> > >
> > > Blair Trewin
> > >
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney - a soggy forecast
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The four-day forecast that's just come out for Sydney reads:
Tuesday: Rain, heavy at times
Wednesday: Rain, heavy at times
Thursday: Rain, heavy at times
Friday: Rain
Could be some interesting river levels if this materialises...
Blair Trewin
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Subject: aus-wx: West to get action overnight
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Quite warm for July here in Perth today, currently at 3:25pm, the
temperatures was sitting at 23.5C, I'd say the max would have got to about
24C an hour ago or so.
These warm northerly winds are ahead of this impressive looking cold front,
due overnight or tomorrow morning, with thunderstorms and strong winds on
it. We havent had any action here in Perth for about 2 weeks or so, its
about time!
Jacob
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>RE our winter so far, Don White's thoughts in the Telegraph today, 12/7
>seem to confirm my fears.
>
>Why couldn't I have been born a hundred years ago. :-(
>
>Lindsay P.
For the benefit of the mortals who live to the west of the great divide,
what did Mr White have to say for himself?
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and you
will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney Very interesting.
For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
bookmark it as it will not remain there
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 you get
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Very heavy rain in So. Illawarra
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:33:19 +1000
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Not missing out for change, light rain most of day from about 4am this
morning, but heavier rain started about 3pm, very heavy in the last hour
from 5.30pm, my roof gutter is overflowing. Radar indicates that there is
not much in Sydney ? Radar also shows an interesting section of pink about
50 kms off the coast. This is interesting if looped as there seems to a
degree of micro circulation around it, I know the models have a ECL off
north coast, but there may be a weaker circulation just offshore Sydney -
Wollongong. The Austar animated satellite ( which is excellent ) shows that
cloud literally exploded off the central NSW coast today.
Point to think about, but it looks like a damp couple of days and perhaps
some flash flooding if the present stuff keeps up.
Michael Thompson
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Terry Bishop ,LA Rain, Weather21 & Present Mid North Coast Obs.
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:38:36 +1000
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Hi Paul
I did hear your name mentioned too ! 20mm I think.
It is a pity that the city folk cannot get Weather 21 as their stuff is
excellent. The animations of radar and sat are what I like.
Michael
>
> PS - A Big thankyou for the excellent team at Weather21 - I rang there
viewer
> feedback line to let them know of the rain we had received (as the radar
> coverage is poor) and the Presenter on the day, Alan Humphries rang me
back and
> had a great chat!! Was most welcome!
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:46:00 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Seven Hills 20.8mm to 6pm,12.8 of it to 6am and probably most of the
rest up to 10am.
I notice the Bureau (or is the forecast wording due to the elliptic
proclivities of the media?) is going for heavy rain up to Friday.
I'm a bit doubtful that will eventuate..if it does it'll be the
exception, I think..
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
> Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
> At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
> >10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
> >and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
> >
> >Matthew Smith
> >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 18:54:06 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and you
> will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney Very interesting.
>
> For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> bookmark it as it will not remain there
>
> http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
>
> Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 you get
> free radar.
>
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In a way yes the cloud moved off the coast and has begun to develop this
is a separate circulation from the one off NNSW
Quite intersting. In 1974, a circulation similar to this moved up the coast
of Sydney and Central Coast during May and it caused a lot of damage!!!
This is remaining stationary but perhaps moving slightly W-NW
Jimmy Deguara
At 18:54 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
>Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
>
>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and you
> > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney Very interesting.
> >
> > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> >
> > http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> >
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> >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:07:46 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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That was the one (I think) that 'exploded' off Newcastle or Gosford as a
secondary depression to one further out in the Tasman Sea, this
happening as soon as it moved offshore from the southwest. I think that
day we had a huge thunderstorm move in from the southeast dumping at
least 40mm in most places with cloud tops up to 40,000 feet..
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> In a way yes the cloud moved off the coast and has begun to develop this
> is a separate circulation from the one off NNSW
>
> Quite intersting. In 1974, a circulation similar to this moved up the coast
> of Sydney and Central Coast during May and it caused a lot of damage!!!
> This is remaining stationary but perhaps moving slightly W-NW
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 18:54 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
> >Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
> >
> >Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > >
> > > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and you
> > > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney Very interesting.
> > >
> > > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> > >
> > > http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> > >
> > > Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 you get
> > > free radar.
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
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Subject: aus-wx: Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
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Hi everyone,
A rotating, oceanic thunderstorm was spotted on radar off Sydney. The radar
even showed a hook shaped echo for about 30 minutes before the whole thing
collapsed. I speculate: a type of low, convective energy supercell. It was
moving very slowly and although supercells tend to move quickly at around
85% of the mean tropospheric wind, it can vary significantly and, of course,
depends on the average tropospheric wind speed.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:19:54 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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I sent an email to Terry but no reply. It seems unusual because he was
sending me some good stuff on local weather etc there for a while then
it suddenly stopped. Maybe I could go back into old mail and see if he
has a phone number. Is that too intrusive? Whaddya think?
Lindsay P.
Don White wrote:
>
> There was a time when "Terry Bishop" from Orange provided this list with
> many interesting bits on the local wetaher - even mentioned he was
> setting up a rain gauge network around the town.
> What has happened to Terry ?
> Anyone know?
> Don W.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:38:34 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Don was talking about the falls of snow in the 1890's and thereabouts
compared to now and how they had at least one heavy fall of snow each
year, even up to Queensland.
Um, he was also talking about the snow season in the Alps looking a
little dismal at the moment and that there wasn't much sign of it
changing. Mind you, as it came out today, (Monday) it may have been
written a day or three ago.
Lindsay P.
Phil Bagust wrote:
>
> >RE our winter so far, Don White's thoughts in the Telegraph today, 12/7
> >seem to confirm my fears.
> >
> >Why couldn't I have been born a hundred years ago. :-(
> >
> >Lindsay P.
>
> For the benefit of the mortals who live to the west of the great divide,
> what did Mr White have to say for himself?
>
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:24:28 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Blackheath had 11mm at my place to 9am Monday the 12th.
I am situated just to the east of the "Hill" on Blackheath's south side
as you drive into town. One of the higher places near town.
Lindsay P.
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Hi Jimmy here in Schofields. Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
> Schofields 11.6mm Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
> At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
> >10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
> >and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
> >
> >Matthew Smith
> >
> >ASWA Committee Member
> >
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Hi all,
I was watching Storm Warning on channel 10 tonight, and one thing caught my
attention. On the program a meteorologist said that a halo around the moon
was an early sign of incoming fronts/storms, does anyone know if this can
be used as an early sign of incoming storms???
I have seen a few nights where a halo was present around the moon, but I
had always known it was due to ice crystals high in the atmosphere, but I
am unsure if a frontal system was coming in at the time I saw it.
Andrew Wall (VK5NAJ)
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South Australia.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:52:22 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Andrew,
What actually causes the moon halo is cirrostratus (which is a thin
layer of ice crystals high in the troposphere). Cirrostratus sometimes
precedes a cold front, and a cold front sometimes brings thunderstorms.
I have not used the word 'often' here, because I disagree with that -
it's a generalisation, and I was surprised that a professional
meteorologist actually said it. Any wx person knows that there's far
too many exceptions to use that example, and such patterns rarely occur
outside 30-60degrees N/S of the equator.
I personally wouldn't use this, unless you actually knew there was a
cold front coming (ie from sat pics).
Hope this helps,
Anthony Cornelius
Andrew Wall wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was watching Storm Warning on channel 10 tonight, and one thing caught my
> attention. On the program a meteorologist said that a halo around the moon
> was an early sign of incoming fronts/storms, does anyone know if this can
> be used as an early sign of incoming storms???
>
> I have seen a few nights where a halo was present around the moon, but I
> had always known it was due to ice crystals high in the atmosphere, but I
> am unsure if a frontal system was coming in at the time I saw it.
>
> Andrew Wall (VK5NAJ)
> 15 Elio Drv,
> Paralowie 5108,
> South Australia.
>
> ph. (08) 82854590
>
> S.A. / N.T. Co-ordinator for the ASWA Inc.
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Trip to Melbourne and Sydney Rain
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:57:59 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
Today I booked my trip to Melbourne. Ill be there from the evening of the
6th August to the afternoon of the 8th August. Ill be staying at the Centra
St Kilda Rd in South Melbourne. I hope to meet as many Vic members of ASWA
as possible while im there.
Matthew Piper
P.S. On the rain front ive received 18mm here (Blaxland) up til 9am and 2mm
since. I cant wait to see what the next few days may bring.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early storm signs????
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 21:54:56 +1000
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Andrew,
High cloud is generally (but obviously not necessarily) associated with
pre-cold-frontal weather. Pre-cold-frontal weather is sometimes (but even
less necessarily) associated with storms. Both of these are a byproduct of
the rising air and instability ahead of cold fronts.
Andrew M.
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
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Date: Monday, 12 July 1999 21:10
Subject: aus-wx: Early storm signs????
>Hi all,
>
>I was watching Storm Warning on channel 10 tonight, and one thing caught my
>attention. On the program a meteorologist said that a halo around the moon
>was an early sign of incoming fronts/storms, does anyone know if this can
>be used as an early sign of incoming storms???
>
>I have seen a few nights where a halo was present around the moon, but I
>had always known it was due to ice crystals high in the atmosphere, but I
>am unsure if a frontal system was coming in at the time I saw it.
>
>
>Andrew Wall (VK5NAJ)
>15 Elio Drv,
>Paralowie 5108,
>South Australia.
>
>ph. (08) 82854590
>
>S.A. / N.T. Co-ordinator for the ASWA Inc.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:12:48 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Lindsay,
What I was saying that there is little indication at the moment of
significantly cold air advection across SE Austrlaia. Some progs go for
upslide on Thursday - Friday and with SSE'ers bringing in moisture there
may be a little snow about the peaks. What we need is a good, cold SW
outbreak. .... a maturing frontal system, sweeping up from the SW under
Adelaide, rather than maturung systems weakening as they drift SE across
the Bight. Time will tell.
don w
Lindsay wrote:
>
> Don was talking about the falls of snow in the 1890's and thereabouts
> compared to now and how they had at least one heavy fall of snow each
> year, even up to Queensland.
>
> Um, he was also talking about the snow season in the Alps looking a
> little dismal at the moment and that there wasn't much sign of it
> changing. Mind you, as it came out today, (Monday) it may have been
> written a day or three ago.
>
> Lindsay P.
>
> Phil Bagust wrote:
> >
> > >RE our winter so far, Don White's thoughts in the Telegraph today, 12/7
> > >seem to confirm my fears.
> > >
> > >Why couldn't I have been born a hundred years ago. :-(
> > >
> > >Lindsay P.
> >
> > For the benefit of the mortals who live to the west of the great divide,
> > what did Mr White have to say for himself?
> >
> > Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> > paisley at cobweb.com.au
> > www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Strong Wind Warning: NSW
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 22:31:24 +1000
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Hi all
The BoM has recognised the secondary low off Woolongong.
Regards
James Chambers
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 2216 on Monday the 12th of July 1999
Synoptic Situation
Low 1008hPa east of Fraser Island, Qld, expected to deepen Tuesday and move
south. Trough off NSW coast with low 1015 hPa about 75nm east of Wollongong.
Warning
S/SE winds 20/30 knots at times Port Hacking to Broken Bay tonight, and
strengthening in remainder during or later Tuesday.
Seas rising to 2 to 3 metres. Swell 2 to 3 metres.
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Looking like some heavy rain to hit South Illawarra
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 23:17:29 +1000
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Looking at the radar ( 11.15pm ) and there is a large area of yellow / green
reflect moving from E/NE towards the south of Illawarra, we have had some
heavy rain around evening, then moderate since. This next load may just
brush past with the largest falls from Kiama to Nowra.
It should be an interesting night !!!!
Michael Thompson
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Keith
I was thinking that very thing myself ! if the larger low off NSW north
coast develops it should straighten things out a little and the heavy rain
return. You had your turn last night, we are having ours tonight.
Michael
> This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
> Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and
you
> > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney Very interesting.
> >
> > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> >
> > http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> >
> > Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 you get
> > free radar.
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > Vice President ASWA
> > from Schofields, Sydney
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