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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Tuesday, 13 July 1999

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001 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Microclimates, was Cold spots in Blackheath
002 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Microclimates, was Cold spots in Blackheath
003 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
004 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    ECL.....waiting waiting.......Anything happening Sydney
005 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            ECL.....waiting waiting.......Anything happening 
006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Thanx Don & ECL progress.
007 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Winter, what winter?
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Cooee Terry...
010 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Cooee Terry...
011 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Update!!
012 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]              Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
013 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             (no subject)
014 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Rain started in Canberra
015 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           T shirts - IMPORTANT NOTE
016 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Updated Mid North Coast obs... Low is on the Way!
017 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    T shirts - IMPORTANT NOTE
018 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
019 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
020 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
021 Craig Geddes [CRAIG.GEDDES at Warringah.nsw.gov.  Wet in Sydney
022 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                rain in Sydney
023 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             rain in Sydney
024 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
025 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Updated Mid North Coast obs... Low is on the Way!
026 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
027 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Updated Mid North Coast obs... Low is on the Way!
028 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          (no subject)
029 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Severe Thunderstorm Warning - Perth Metro Area
030 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Current Obs.
031 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Microclimates, was Cold spots in Blackheath
032 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   swell
033 "Adam Mayo" [oyam at bigpond.com]                 Rain in Sydney
034 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       rain in Sydney
035 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Re:
036 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Re:
037 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Re:
038 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    TC Thelma 6-12 Dec '98
039 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        Uh Oh Photo Comp
040 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   Rain Now, Snow on Tue?

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001

From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aus-wx: Microclimates, was Cold spots in Blackheath
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:43:38 GMT
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On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:42:29 -0700, Lindsay 
wrote:

>Could you explain this inversion cap as it relates to this cold pool,
>when you get time? 
>
Hi Lindsay

The atmosphere usually gets colder as you go up. The greater the rate
of cooling (or lapse rate) the more unstable the air.

On still nights when a cold pool forms, however, the atmosphere
actually gets warmer as you go up the valley side, and as a result is
highly stable. The fact that the air in the valley floor is cold also
makes it denser, and the colder it becomes, the less likely it is to
be shifted by light breezes springing up. In fact, the breezes will
slide over the top of the cold pool and enhance the temperature
difference and sharpness at the interface, strengthening the inversion
further. This point is where the inversion cap lies -- if you plotted
the temperature of the lowest few hundred metres (vertical) in the
valley, you'd find the temperature was at a fairly even temperature
through the cold pool, but then would rise very quickly (sometimes in
a few metres) at the top of the cold air pool. It's an "inversion"
because the normal temperature drop with height is inverted, and a cap
because it caps the cold air and helps preserve it.

A not-uncommon event in many parts of the world (I've experienced it
in Sydney) is to have a strong inversion which has formed overnight
suddenly blown apart by the arrival of strengthening gusty NW winds;
the temperature change can be instantaneous and quite dramatic.

I greatly enjoy riding my motorbike on still nights, and experiencing
the dramatic temperature variations there can be between west-facing
slopes, valley bottoms, and east-facing slopes. It would be
interesting to do a temperature traverse with a recording thermometer
suspended outside a car on such nights to see how well the shape of
the temperature graph related to the topography.

I well remember riding from Picton to Campbelltown via Douglas Park
one late autumn evening. The road sidles around the lower slopes of
Razorback mountain, rising and falling over short rounded ridges
between shallow valleys that drain the southern side of the mountain.
Katabatic cold-air flows were in full force down each of these
depressions, with streams of cold, moist air with whisps of fog
rolling across the road at maybe 10km/h. As I rode *out* of each
gully's cold moist air into the much warmer air on the west-facing
sides of the ridges, my visor and rear vision mirrors would
instantaneously fog up, only to clear nearly as suddenly as I neared
each crest. The regularity of it was so surprising that I went back
and rode through it again, wondering about both the temperature and
humidity structure. I've never fully understood the physics at work in
that situation, but suspect it was something akin to condensation
forming quickly on a bottle of soft drink taken out of the frig on a
warm, fairly humid day. 

-- 
Laurier Williams
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Microclimates, was Cold spots in Blackheath
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:55:19 +1000
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Hi Laurier

I have experienced a more severe form of this at Hornsby:  Landcruiser 
parked outside approx 1/4 way down the Waitara Ck valley.  Get up one very 
cold winter morning - hop into car, surprisingly I have clear vision. 
 Drive up towards plateau level - just 100m horizontal, 25m vertical 
distance, only to have ice form rapidly over windscreen and obscure vision. 
(Hop out and scrape away...)

This was interesting because normally the ice forms on the car while in the 
valley.  In this case the cold air in the valley must have been also quite 
dry, chilling the car exterior to below zero but subliming off any 
condensation.  Sufficiently cold to then cause condensation & instant ice 
upon drriving up into warmer and presumably also more humid air.

John.
>snip

I well remember riding from Picton to Campbelltown via Douglas Park
one late autumn evening. The road sidles around the lower slopes of
Razorback mountain, rising and falling over short rounded ridges
between shallow valleys that drain the southern side of the mountain.
Katabatic cold-air flows were in full force down each of these
depressions, with streams of cold, moist air with whisps of fog
rolling across the road at maybe 10km/h. As I rode *out* of each
gully's cold moist air into the much warmer air on the west-facing
sides of the ridges, my visor and rear vision mirrors would
instantaneously fog up, only to clear nearly as suddenly as I neared
each crest. The regularity of it was so surprising that I went back
and rode through it again, wondering about both the temperature and
humidity structure. I've never fully understood the physics at work in
that situation, but suspect it was something akin to condensation
forming quickly on a bottle of soft drink taken out of the frig on a
warm, fairly humid day.

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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:13:34 +0100
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Paul Graham wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> A rotating, oceanic thunderstorm was spotted on radar off Sydney.  The radar
> even showed a hook shaped echo for about 30 minutes before the whole thing
> collapsed.  I speculate: a type of low, convective energy supercell.  It was
> moving very slowly and although supercells tend to move quickly at around
> 85% of the mean tropospheric wind, it can vary significantly and, of course,
> depends on the average tropospheric wind speed.
> - Paul G.
>

It certainly looks like a supercell on radar:  V shaped with a hook,  have there
been any reports from the BoM or ship stations????

Interesting event for your winter.

Les

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 07:58:57 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: ECL.....waiting waiting.......Anything happening Sydney
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Well the wind has changed here now......gently ESE'ers at this stage with the
cloud thickening and moving in from the ESE. The Low is obv starting to make an
impression - its expected to be off the Mid North Coast by Noon today, though I
would say prob later this evening - no rain here now for some hours and there
are breaks in the cloud around.

Any reports form you Southerners yet? Any rain?

Man this is like waiting for a tropical cyclone to come your way..........wish
it would hurry up!

Forecast is for Rain with Heavy falls til Friday - well bring it on!

Paul at Port Macquarie (waiting with baited breath.............)

PS Michael Thompson is 100% correct about the Sat Pic loops on Weather21 - they
are the best you prob will ever see - every detail is excellent - and the tight
circluation around Low's clearly shows - very very good! Pity you city
folk......... yeehaaa Im goin back to the howdown now........pardner.


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:21:28 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Paul...
Rainfall overnight concentrated on the Illawarra coast and south.
showers in Sydney brough only a few mms  but Darkes Forest in hills to
NW of Wollongong had 73 mm overnight and Dumbarton, west of Albion Park
64 mm. Wollongong Ap has had 42 mm between 3pm yesterdsay and 6 am this
morning and other falls for that period included Bellambie 42, Jervis
Bay 38, Moruya Heads 28, Ulladulla 26 and Camden 24 mm
Don White

Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
> 
> Well the wind has changed here now......gently ESE'ers at this stage with the
> cloud thickening and moving in from the ESE. The Low is obv starting to make an
> impression - its expected to be off the Mid North Coast by Noon today, though I
> would say prob later this evening - no rain here now for some hours and there
> are breaks in the cloud around.
> 
> Any reports form you Southerners yet? Any rain?
> 
> Man this is like waiting for a tropical cyclone to come your way..........wish
> it would hurry up!
> 
> Forecast is for Rain with Heavy falls til Friday - well bring it on!
> 
> Paul at Port Macquarie (waiting with baited breath.............)
> 
> PS Michael Thompson is 100% correct about the Sat Pic loops on Weather21 - they
> are the best you prob will ever see - every detail is excellent - and the tight
> circluation around Low's clearly shows - very very good! Pity you city
> folk......... yeehaaa Im goin back to the howdown now........pardner.
> 
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Thanx Don.

The funniest thing has just happened......the Local FM radio station (Rox FM)
has just rung up the BOM and asked them to stop the rain !! ..... and the Poor
guy at the BOM who answered the phone had no idea!! hehehehehe poor guy.........
he the promptly transferred the Crew to a Forecaster...hehehe

Seems that events like this do raise the awareness of the Weather amongst other
things!

The BOM guy did however say that the LOW is still off the Brisbane Coastal
area........ so I guess the waiting game continues.

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
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A forecaster I spoke to at the BoM mentioned that this storm was associated 
with a localised low pressure cell.  Hence the bow and then spiral shaped 
echo.  So it was no co-incidence.
>From the books I have read on radar meteorology, this can often be a sign of 
tornadic activity and usually indicates rotation within the storm system, 
especially if it is a persistent feature.  On this occasion, it was apparent 
for 3 radar scans which meant about half and hour.  The storm itself lasted 
only an hour before dissipating.
As an aside, spiral shaped storms have been observed on radar in the rain 
bands of tropical cyclones and tornadoes and waterspouts have been 
associated with mid-lattitude cyclones too.  Often for waterspouts, their 
scale is too small to be detected by radar such as Sydney's.  However, for 
larger supercell type storms, such as found in the rainbands of TC's, 
features such as hook and bow shape echoes may be apparent on radar.
- Paul G.


>From: Les Crossan 
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:13:34 +0100
>
>
>
>Paul Graham wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> > A rotating, oceanic thunderstorm was spotted on radar off Sydney.  The 
>radar
> > even showed a hook shaped echo for about 30 minutes before the whole 
>thing
> > collapsed.  I speculate: a type of low, convective energy supercell.  It 
>was
> > moving very slowly and although supercells tend to move quickly at 
>around
> > 85% of the mean tropospheric wind, it can vary significantly and, of 
>course,
> > depends on the average tropospheric wind speed.
> > - Paul G.
> >
>
>It certainly looks like a supercell on radar:  V shaped with a hook,  have 
>there
>been any reports from the BoM or ship stations????
>
>Interesting event for your winter.
>
>Les
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:32:41 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Don White wrote:

Sounds great to me Don. Can't wait. 

Why have we seen so little of the maturing SW frontal systems this year?

Lindsay Pearce

 
> Lindsay,
> What I was saying that there is little indication at the moment of
> significantly cold air advection across SE Austrlaia. Some progs go for
> upslide on Thursday - Friday and with SSE'ers bringing in moisture there
> may be a little snow about the peaks. What we need is a good, cold SW
> outbreak. .... a maturing frontal system, sweeping up from the SW under
> Adelaide, rather than maturung systems weakening as they drift SE across
> the Bight. Time will tell.
> don w
> 
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Don was talking about the falls of snow in the 1890's and thereabouts
> > compared to now and how they had at least one heavy fall of snow each
> > year, even up to Queensland.
> >
> > Um, he was also talking about the snow season in the Alps looking a
> > little dismal at the moment and that there wasn't much sign of it
> > changing. Mind you, as it came out today, (Monday) it may have been
> > written a day or three ago.
> >
> > Lindsay P.
> >
> > Phil Bagust wrote:
> > >
> > > >RE our winter so far, Don White's thoughts in the Telegraph today, 12/7
> > > >seem to confirm my fears.
> > > >
> > > >Why couldn't I have been born a hundred years ago. :-(
> > > >
> > > >Lindsay P.
> > >
> > > For the benefit of the mortals who live to the west of the great divide,
> > > what did Mr White have to say for himself?
> > >
> > > Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> > > paisley at cobweb.com.au
> > > www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley
> > >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 20:26:54 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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No luck in finding Terry Bishop.

I phoned him but the number is no longer connected and the only other
listed Terry Bishop in Orange definately wasn't the Terry Bishop from
Aussie-Weather. "Who are ya? Lindsay Piss from Horsie Wither? Say
again?" 

Sure it was a bad line but...:-)

Lindsay Pearce



Don White wrote:
> 
> There was a time when "Terry Bishop" from Orange provided this list with
> many interesting bits on the local wetaher - even mentioned he was
> setting up a rain gauge network around the town.
> What has happened to Terry ?
> Anyone know?
> Don W.
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heheehe Lindsay you are a card........... u need to be dealt with!

Good try... maybe its time to call in Mulder & scully!

Weather update - NONE! Still nothing happening..........

Paul at Port Macquarie


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Well - is this the start of the action?

rain is falling here now, only light at this stage............. but has been
consistent now for 30mins with it looking darker to the NE.

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rotating Storm off Sydney Coast...
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--- Paul Graham  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> A rotating, oceanic thunderstorm was spotted on
> radar off Sydney.  The radar 
> even showed a hook shaped echo for about 30 minutes
> before the whole thing 
> collapsed.  I speculate: a type of low, convective
> energy supercell.  

Hi Paul and everyone,

I noticed some lightning off the coast of Sydney as I was driving to
the city at a little after 6:00pm last night. I only saw seven flashes
over about 10 minutes although I think the storm would have been dying
at that time.

I remember some storms which developed off the Sydney coast last year.
Several had very meaty anvils and pronounced overshooting tops at
various stages which had me thinking, without the benefit of radar,
that they may have been this sort of supercell variant. Maybe we need a boat....
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:40:46 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ECL.....waiting waiting.......Anything happening 
	 Sydney/Wollongong way?
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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The progs are pointing towards tomorrow as being the peak day in this ECL.
Should start to see the rain becoming more organised tonight. Focus appears
to be north of Sydney.
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>From: Don White 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ECL.....waiting waiting.......Anything happening
Sydney/Wollongong way?
>Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 8:21 AM
>

> Paul...
> Rainfall overnight concentrated on the Illawarra coast and south.
> showers in Sydney brough only a few mms  but Darkes Forest in hills to
> NW of Wollongong had 73 mm overnight and Dumbarton, west of Albion Park
> 64 mm. Wollongong Ap has had 42 mm between 3pm yesterdsay and 6 am this
> morning and other falls for that period included Bellambie 42, Jervis
> Bay 38, Moruya Heads 28, Ulladulla 26 and Camden 24 mm
> Don White
>
> Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:

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Hi all,

A couple of very brief showers received overnight
in Canberra - around 1.00am - with minimal totals.

Steady moderate rain began falling around 10.30am
this morning. Sky is overcast with showers merging
and some heavier rain areas are visible around the
Brindabella ranges and to the east.

As with some other locations, radar does not
pick up precipitation in Canberra very well
(especially from lower level clouds).

ESE surface winds, clouds coming in from the E.

Patrick


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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: T shirts - IMPORTANT NOTE
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 11:47:44 +1000
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T shirts have arrived just now.  I'll get them on their way to your state
reps in the next day or so.

Ironing instructions are as follows:

THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!   Always iron INSIDE OUT - do not iron the logo
directly!!!!!!!!!

Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria


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Steady light rain with occasional heavy-light shower.

More of note is the increase in wind. Enough to make tree branches move now in
stronger gusts - Wind from the E/ESE?

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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So I take it Jane we dont iron the logo?

:-)

Paul.

Still raining............


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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Now it's Getting Seroius - ECL
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Why, oh why am I not in wollongong this week!! Damned uni holidays!!

--
IDW42N00
FLOOD ALERT
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1159 on Tuesday the 13th of July 1999
FOR  The LOWER HUNTER, GEORGES, WORONORA and SHOALHAVEN RIVERS  and the
ILLAWARRA REGION
A low pressure system located off the NSW Northern Coast combined with a
high
pressure system located near Tasmania will produce more rain  with local
heavy
falls along the NSW coast tonight and tomorrow.
Local flash  flooding is possible along the coastal areas from Coffs Harbour
to
the NSW south coast.
Minor to moderate main river flooding also possible along the Lower Hunter
[including Paterson and Williams], Georges, Woronora and Shoalhaven Rivers.
Tidal  peaks are also higher than normal, which will also increase the risk
of
flooding in some coastal areas.
This flood alert will be updated by noon Wednesday 14/7/99

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Wind has now started to increase to a constant breeze with trees being moved.

Direction: E / ESE

Rain constant moderate-light.

Now its getting interesting...............  I hope this doesnt fizzle out......

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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****** Update *******


Moderate rain is falling now, with winds gusting to "howling" strength....  Move
over baby Mr Low is coming to tea.


Paul at Port Macquarie.

Ps Any other updates?


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Hi All,

Just for info,  current obs at Terrey Hills (Northern Sydney)
T 14.7
H 90.4%
mB 1015 steady
Wind 7-19kph ESE

We have had 31.4 mm of rain since 9am

The State Emergency Service and Rural Fire Service have just been
activated for localised flooding along the coast.

regards

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Ben Munro here, from Cherrybrook
I had 21.5mm to 9am on the 12th, 9.2 to 9am this morning, and 12 so far today

>Hi Jimmy here in Schofields.  Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to 
>see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don 
>White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>
>Schofields   11.6mm   Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>
>At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Hi
>>
>>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
>>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
>>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
>>
>>Matthew Smith
>>
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I dont know if my emails are getting through to the list or not.

28mm so far since 9am today in Burwood with another heavy downpour now with
some wind

Local flooding around the place according to the radio, nothing serious
though.

Matt Smith

>Ben Munro here, from Cherrybrook
>I had 21.5mm to 9am on the 12th, 9.2 to 9am this morning, and 12 so far today
>
>>Hi Jimmy here in Schofields.  Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to 
>>see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don 
>>White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
>>
>>Schofields   11.6mm   Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
>>
>>At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
>>>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for months,
>>>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
>>>
>>>Matthew Smith
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Im not going to comment on your "move over baby Mr Low is comming to tea" :P

Update: rain has been falling in sydney, widespread.. large yellow area was
moving west but has died off a bit now. I have had 24mm since 9am here in
Burwood and its still raining now, with the odd heavy bit now and then.
wind- barely any, occassional gust but otherwise its just calm.

Matt Smith

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>
>
>****** Update *******
>
>
>Moderate rain is falling now, with winds gusting to "howling" strength....
 Move
>over baby Mr Low is coming to tea.
>
>
>Paul at Port Macquarie.
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>Ps Any other updates?
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Hi paul/everyone

Raining here in sydney.. yellow all over the place and ive had 8mm so far
since 9am, increasing alot now which is great to see :)
Only thing is the hail damaged homes wont be liking this :(
I have tomorrow off so if there are any flooding events ill do my best to
reach them and take some photos.
Matt Smith
>
>
>Steady light rain with occasional heavy-light shower.
>
>More of note is the increase in wind. Enough to make tree branches move
now in
>stronger gusts - Wind from the E/ESE?
>
>Paul at Port Macquarie.
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Thanx Matt.


Still raining here - only lightly now - was heavy for about 1.5hrs between 1pm -
2.30pm

Plenty of water now around. Setting up perfectly for flooding if heavy rain
falls tonight / tomorrow.

We will see....................

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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Hey Matt - looks like your email went via Cyberspace!

Posted some 2.5hrs ago

:-(

Must be busy somewhere......

Paul.


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Hi Folks,

Jimmy here from Schofields sub-marine

We went to the Central Coast at Wyee today and it rained a little up there 
in 2 or 3 periods quite steadily. But on the way down back to Sydney from 
Ourimbah Wyong it began to bucket down. Good to see people driving 
carefully. It is starting to increase here in Schofields as well.

Jimmy Deguara
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PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued at 2:15 pm WST on Tuesday, 13 July 1999

People in the coastal suburbs of the Perth Metropolitan Area are warned that
there is the risk of localised squalls with thunderstorms this afternoon

One or two reports of damage in Rockingham from strong squalls have been
received this afternoon.

Storms may be accompanied by strong winds that could result in damage to
property in coastal suburbs in the next half hour. 

People in these suburbs are advised to secure loose items, move vechicles
under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Yachts and small
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the river and local waters should seek shelter immediately.

The next warning will be issued about 4pm.

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Conditions have deteriorated here now

Wind squally, rain moderate - heavy with squalls. Lot of water around.

Great weather! Look forward to hearing the rain pound on the roof tonight......
and listening to the mornings rain reports!

Paul at Port Macquarie.


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:08:21 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks again Laurier,

When I get time, I'll sit down and wade through your thoughts more
thoroughly. Fascinating. I love all of this stuff. I've got this young
guy (17) at tennis that is fascinated by the weather and he laps up this
info. He knows its not from me, I tell him there are much more informed
minds than mine.

I must say, I am looking forward to my partner's brother moving into the
Canberra area soon (he was in Tassy). He studied as a medical physicist
but has since moved into Oceanography etc. It's hard to get a lot out of
him as he is a quiet chap but he has good weather knowledge. Must try
and get him on the list.

Does anyone on Aussie-Weather know him? (Dr) Stephen Walker is his name.


Lindsay P.
PS: Re your biking, I miss my bike days. I did more off track stuff and
it got a bit addictive. My dad used to have a side car ages ago. It's my
dream to get into it again, heading out west towards Orange and
Canobolas with my tent (And in search of Terry Bishop) but we need
another car first. :-( And my partner worries about me too much as I
have a rather adventurous streak. But this all belongs to another
list...sorry weather folk.

Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:42:29 -0700, Lindsay 
> wrote:
> 
> >Could you explain this inversion cap as it relates to this cold pool,
> >when you get time?
> >
> Hi Lindsay
> 
> The atmosphere usually gets colder as you go up. The greater the rate
> of cooling (or lapse rate) the more unstable the air.
> 
> On still nights when a cold pool forms, however, the atmosphere
> actually gets warmer as you go up the valley side, and as a result is
> highly stable. The fact that the air in the valley floor is cold also
> makes it denser, and the colder it becomes, the less likely it is to
> be shifted by light breezes springing up. In fact, the breezes will
> slide over the top of the cold pool and enhance the temperature
> difference and sharpness at the interface, strengthening the inversion
> further. This point is where the inversion cap lies -- if you plotted
> the temperature of the lowest few hundred metres (vertical) in the
> valley, you'd find the temperature was at a fairly even temperature
> through the cold pool, but then would rise very quickly (sometimes in
> a few metres) at the top of the cold air pool. It's an "inversion"
> because the normal temperature drop with height is inverted, and a cap
> because it caps the cold air and helps preserve it.
>  8-<
>


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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:23:02 -0700
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Michael Thompson,

Hows the swell looking down your way? 

I was just looking at old pics of the south coast. Pipe in particular.

I think I've got one disc left in my back that isn't herniated, might
head your way and see if I can rectify that...


"There was one good disc hanging on the wall..."


Lindsay Pearce.

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Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 00:58:29 +1000
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Hi everyone,

Thought you might be interested in the rainfall at Mona Vale -

28.25mm 8pm 11/7/99 to 9am 12/7/99
 5.25mm  to 9am 13/7/99
42.0mm  9am to 5.30pm 13.7.99

All the waterfalls on McCarr's Creek Road look quite spectacular, and also the road over Oxford Falls is closed due to the volume of water, quite a sight.

Don't think our back or front yard will ever dry out.

Judy Mayo.
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Daniel Weatherhead here from Blaxland, Lower Blue Mountians

We had 28.2mm til 9am Monday and 17.8 til 9am Tuesday. At 2pm this 
afternoon-(last time I checked ) we had had a further 12.6mm. Most of that 
came after 12:30.



>
>Ben Munro here, from Cherrybrook
>I had 21.5mm to 9am on the 12th, 9.2 to 9am this morning, and 12 so far 
>today
>
> >Hi Jimmy here in Schofields.  Perhaps we should all add to this e-mail to
> >see what happened around the place in terms of rainfall. Like myself, Don
> >White loves to study the rainfall variations around Sydney.
> >
> >Schofields   11.6mm   Mainly in the early hours of the morning.
> >
> >At 09:21 12/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>38mm here in Burwood to 9am this morning, all of it falling since about
> >>10pm the night before. It would have to be the best fall here for 
>months,
> >>and on the AWS at 9am Observatory Hill recorded 50mm.
> >>
> >>Matthew Smith
> >>
> >>ASWA Committee Member
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:15:49 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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I think we all might get a turn tonight..presently raining here at 4.5mm
per hour with occasional heavier showers, and the entire average
rainfall for July here in the last 36 hours (47mm).So far the wettest
July since 1988.
And that drought index is really dropping..down to about 40mm now..

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> Keith
> 
> I was thinking that very thing myself ! if the larger low off NSW north
> coast develops it should straighten things out a little and the heavy rain
> return. You had your turn last night, we are having ours tonight.
> 
> Michael
> 
> > This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
> > Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > >
> > > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and
> you
> > > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney  Very interesting.
> > >
> > > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> > >
> > > http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> > >
> > > Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 you get
> > > free radar.
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > > ---------------
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > Vice President ASWA
> > > from Schofields, Sydney
> > > e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
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Keith, do you have a flood index?? I think we are in for major rainfall but 
the models are a little confusing. One interesting point is that the rain 
bands are moving in from the E!!! I haven't seen this for wuite some time 
in this type of event.

Jimmy Deguara

At 18:15 13/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>I think we all might get a turn tonight..presently raining here at 4.5mm
>per hour with occasional heavier showers, and the entire average
>rainfall for July here in the last 36 hours (47mm).So far the wettest
>July since 1988.
>And that drought index is really dropping..down to about 40mm now..
>
>Michael Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > I was thinking that very thing myself ! if the larger low off NSW north
> > coast develops it should straighten things out a little and the heavy rain
> > return. You had your turn last night, we are having ours tonight.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > > This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
> > > Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and
> > you
> > > > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney  Very interesting.
> > > >
> > > > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > > > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> > > >
> > > > 
> http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30 
> you get
> > > > free radar.
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > > 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > > > ---------------
> > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > Vice President ASWA
> > > > from Schofields, Sydney
> > > > e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
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> > > >
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 18:31:47 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Just think of the drought index serving an inverse purpose in weather
like this..
I did notice some cirrostratus moving from the NNW above the Sydney CBD
at 7.15 this morning but some of that stuff coming in from the east
looked almost like thunderstorm material late this afternoon over the
north shore..

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Keith, do you have a flood index?? I think we are in for major rainfall but
> the models are a little confusing. One interesting point is that the rain
> bands are moving in from the E!!! I haven't seen this for wuite some time
> in this type of event.
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 18:15 13/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >I think we all might get a turn tonight..presently raining here at 4.5mm
> >per hour with occasional heavier showers, and the entire average
> >rainfall for July here in the last 36 hours (47mm).So far the wettest
> >July since 1988.
> >And that drought index is really dropping..down to about 40mm now..
> >
> >Michael Thompson wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > I was thinking that very thing myself ! if the larger low off NSW north
> > > coast develops it should straighten things out a little and the heavy rain
> > > return. You had your turn last night, we are having ours tonight.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > This is probably a dumb question but is that why the rain has eased in
> > > > Sydney itself (ie we are just to the north of this circulation)?
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I would suggest people look at the radar at the moment off Sydney and
> > > you
> > > > > will see a localised rotation SE of Sydney  Very interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who don't have radar on, check the following link but do not
> > > > > bookmark it as it will not remain there
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/radar/07121800.gif
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy. For those without radar, you should join ASWA and for $30
> > you get
> > > > > free radar.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > >
> > > >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > > > ---------------
> > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > > Vice President ASWA
> > > > > from Schofields, Sydney
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> > > > > homepage with Michael Bath
> > > > >
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: TC Thelma 6-12 Dec '98
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:05:17 +1000
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Hi all

I'm pretty sure these pages by the BoM are new...
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/nt/inside/thelma/index.shtml
There are some high quality sat pics, radar images, track and damage pics of
the category 5 Tropical Cyclone.  There are links to the Vance 'report' as
well.

Regards
James Chambers
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:13:21 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,

I was wondering with me being away why there has not been
any submissions for this months photo competition. And well
maybe it is because I haven't asked for any. Doh.

Well this month submission deadline is fast approaching for
the 26th of July.

The theme for submissions is ----

Hail, Snow and Frost on the ground/buildings/trees/cars etc.

So if you have a photo that you are particularly proud of
that falls into this category please submit it to

webmaster at severeweather.asn.au

by the 26th of July

1. If sending the images by email, convert the images to
"JPG" format and keep them under 100 kb in size.
2. Make the image 400 pixels in width. (I will except larger
ones and rescale them to fit but they must be under 100kb's
in size)
3. Include your Name, Postal address, Email (if you have
one), The location and date the photo/photos where taken,
short description of the weather that day (as you remember
it) and (if possible) the camera type, film type and camera
settings.

Winners of each months competition will be included in the
following years ASWA Inc. calendar and the three top photos
will be placed into "ASWA Inc. Photo Hall Of Fame"


For any more information on the submission details please
look at the description page at
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/
And while your there you might like to vote for this moths
contenders if you haven't already done so.

Regards
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Rain Now, Snow on Tue?
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:10:09 +1000
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Hi all,

Here in Taralga (NE Southern Tablelands) we've had heavy drizzle with some
'bordering on rain' patches all day, with the same situation continuing now.
Looks like Wollongong - which is directly E of here - is drying out all the
air!! Plenty of Fog and Low cloud though!

All models, as I look at them now, show a good chance of a little snow
developing next Tuesday on NSW ranges. I doesn't seem to be the major cold
snap we've been waiting for though. Ah, it's a 144 hr chart, anything could
happen!

Andrew.

PS Sorry I can't provide exact rainfall totals...

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