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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Monday, 19 July 1999

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001 "Redback Dave" [redback at lisp.com.au]           Storms and rain band approaching Sydney
002 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au]              SA Weather
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Melbourne Weather
004 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Sydney 1947 Thunderstorm
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Report re: ECL/Low Week Commencing 12.7.99, Question for Bla
006 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Chase Report 990604 Thedford, NE
007 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]        (no subject)
008 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        SA winds
009 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            SA Weather
010 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]        (no subject)
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Big Snowfalls Expected...
012 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Weatherwatch meeting for those in Sydney
013 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               MT BULLER WIND

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001

From: "Redback Dave" [redback at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storms and rain band approaching Sydney
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:37:57 +1000
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Hi Peoples,

I'm in Parkes (NSW) at the moment, and said rain band has just passed over
here.
No thunderstorms associated with it out here, just periods of moderate rain.
Oh well...................


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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Sent: Sunday, July 18, 1999 3:24 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Storms and rain band approaching Sydney


> I told a couple of guys this morning that Sydney may be in or just missing
> out on thunderstorms. The LI got it spot on and the indications were of
> warm air and some instability from this morning.
>
> On radar at the moment, there is a rasin band and embedded thunderstorms
> heading E-SE but general the whole system is moving E. It is a text book
> case of a cold front situation that occurs usually in early spring. To get
> an idea of what it looks like, refer to the type of cloud band in the
following
> Although a different time of the year, it is initially looking like
>
>
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1995/010
> 6jd01.jpg
>
> but as it approaches, will have the following type of situation..
>
>
>
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1996/093
> 0jd01.jpg
>
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1996/093
> 0jd02.jpg
>
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1996/093
> 0jd03.jpg
>
> Oh well, We will enjoy this before the westerlies break through.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
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> Jimmy Deguara
> Vice President ASWA
> from Schofields, Sydney
> e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
> homepage with Michael Bath
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:22:05 +1000
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From: Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: SA Weather
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Hi all

Anyone down south with any updates/reports? radar shows the low right on
top  of kangaroo island/adelaide spinning around, looks pretty good, they
have had some great weather there the last couple of days, anyone been out
chasing/observing ?

Matt Smith

SEVERE WEATHER ADVICE
Issued at 7:55 am on Monday, 19 July 1999
For people in the Greater Adelaide and Mount Lofty Ranges district;  the West
Coast south of Minnipa, Lower and Eastern Eyre Peninsula, Kangaroo Island,
Yorke
Peninsula, the Mid North and  the Murraylands west Lameroo.   

An intense low pressure system will bring squally gale force winds and heavy
rain to  the above districts this morning and early afternoon.  

Localised damage and flash flooding may occur and you are advised to take
sensible precautions. For example, secure loose outside objects and drive with
extra caution.
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:45:54 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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McDonald wrote:
> 
> Morning all,
> 
> Been a while since i've posted to the list...

Hi Andrew,

You're way ahead of schedule also:-) Take a look at the
time/date stamp in your mail header. The offending sample
is below;

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>Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Weather
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:40:52 +1000
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Michael Scollay
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney 1947 Thunderstorm
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:49:30 +1000 (EST)
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I went to the BoM today to talk with Jeff with a few things, and also
> share some information with him that I found by going through old
> newspapers on microfilm last week.
> 
> Anyway - Jeff gave me a job to do, and that was to type up the list of
> severe t'storms (in particular hailstorms) in QLD between 1935 and
> 1953.  It also contains othern information on other significant
> thunderstorms in Australia.
> 
> One that caught my eye, was a Sydney thunderstorm, of which I've typed
> out below:
> 
> 1.1.47 SYDNEY.  Roofs damaged in hailstorms.  Also furniture, etc.
> 
> And then below this it says:
> 
> 1.1.47 SYDNEY (additional to above).  Record hailstorm, over a million
> pounds damage, neon signs, aircraft, cars, gardens, electric wires,
> damaged.  Trees stripped.  Roofs caved in, tiles, windows panes, roofs
> smashed.  Over 300 people injured by hail, glass and tiles and Randwick
> race course and Bondi and Sports ground.  Hail stones up to 8 inches
> across, bigger than cricket balls, worst area Hurstville and Bankstown
> northeast to the Harbour.  Greatest damage east of City and eastern
> suburbs, area 15 X 12 miles affected, lasted 10 minutes, about 2.30pm.
> 
> For those who are wondering, 8 inches = 20cm across.  And one million
> pounds in 1947 would be a phenomenal amount of money if they were
> inflated - my guess is if it were inflated, then this figure would be
> around the figure of the April 14 t'storm.
> 
> Certainly, a very interesting event - does anyone else have more
> information on this???  If anyone is interested in researching this
> event (going through newspapers for articles and clippings) I will
> gladly go halves with the cost.  Please email me personally.
> 
> Anthony from Brisbane
Anthony,

Following up on my last mail (did it make it to the list? - I haven't
got it back myself but suspect that may be due to problems at my
end), I've dug up from the Bureau clippings files reports from two
Melbourne newspapers - what's your mailing address?

The more things change, the more they stay the same: one of the 
reports states 'Hundreds of householders fear there will be great
difficulty in obtaining labour, tiles and window glass to make
repairs' (at least then they had the excuse that the war had only
finished relatively recently).

Compared with 1999, there seem to have been many more injuries - not
surprising given that it was at 2.30 on New Year's afternoon and many
people were caught in the open at locations such as beaches and 
Randwick racecourse - but less property damage. (In particular, many
cars had fabric tops which would be far cheaper to repair or replace
than a metal top would be). The quoted million-pound figure for
damage (almost certainly an under-estimate) would equate to about
$45 million in 1999 dollars.

Blair Trewin
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:26:21 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Report re: ECL/Low Week Commencing 12.7.99, Question for Blair
	/Laurier/Mark H, and Further report of 90 Knot winds
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Howdy all. Heres the gist of what happened here ( My thanx to Mark Hardy for the
inspiration.... ha!).

Total rain figures for Mid North Coast (as reported MRT 16.7.99) for the ECL /
Low event.

Comboyne  318mm including a massive 194mm ( 9am Wed - 9am Thurs)
Innes View     283mm
Taree          143mm
Old Bar        171mm
Wingham   128.6mm
Forster        112mm
Buladelah 170.4mm
Mitchells Island    180.8mm

Damage: Moderate flooding for manning River, most damage occurring downstream
from Taree. Oxley island cut for 3 days as was Mitchells Island. Plenty
landslips, major one west of Gloucester on Nowendoc road. Power cut to old bar /
Mitchells Island for 12 hours, houses received moderate flood damage. Most
damage environmental.

Most rain fell at my place in the 24hr Period between 5pm Tuesday - 5pm
wednesday - 140.4mm (Record is over 200mm)

Highest return rate:     2.2mm per minute sustained for 4 mins Tuesday night at
8pm

Highest wind speed recorded at Mitchells island    43.5 km/h on early Wednesday
Morning  from the South

Total July rainfall to date: 204.00 mm
Average is 65mm (at Taree)

Total rain for this year to date : 1189.2mm
Average for Year is 1177mm (For Taree).

Months Total so far:

January   202.6
Feb       109.2
March          124.4
April          366.8
May       62.8
June      113.4
July (to date) 204.00

Question for Blair, Laurier, mark H or someone. What are Heat Degree Days / Cool
Degree Days? Also what is a  Heat base of 18.3 or Cool Base of 18.3?

Re: The 90 knot winds - there is a automated weather computer that the Qantas
Pilots use for Obs. that recorded the gust - I'm waiting for the printout of the
gust and confirmation. It also appears that the Qantas pilots reported the obs.
as part of their flight reports.

Paul at Port Macq.


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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 19:42:22 -0500
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
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Subject: aus-wx: Chase Report 990604 Thedford, NE
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For anyone interested, I've added text to the Mullen/Thedford,
Nebraska chase report from June 4, 1999.  The URL is:

http://www.k5kj.net/990604.htm

Sam Barricklow

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Subject: aus-wx: SA winds
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]
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Seen some pretty heavy wind reports coming in from SA. Seen mean wind of 42
kts at Snowtown and 31 kts at Editburgh. Has anybody got any reports of
gust?
MH
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: SA winds
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> 
> Seen some pretty heavy wind reports coming in from SA. Seen mean wind of 42
> kts at Snowtown and 31 kts at Editburgh. Has anybody got any reports of
> gust?
> MH
Top mean wind on the 0900 bulletin was 69 km/h (37 kts) at Maitland
(Yorke Peninsula). The rainfall bulletin has 72-hour obs on it -
highest 68mm at Parawa West.

Laurier's page indicates a 57-knot gust at Mt Lofty and 51 knots at
Snowtown.

Blair Trewin
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>Hi all
>
>Anyone down south with any updates/reports? radar shows the low right on
>top  of kangaroo island/adelaide spinning around, looks pretty good, they
>have had some great weather there the last couple of days, anyone been out
>chasing/observing ?
>
>Matt Smith

60-70mm up til 9.00am in some perts of southern Fleurieu peninsula and
Kangaroo Id.  I've also heard report of rain induced landslides.  There was
a neat little storm with that front last night (I got a shot of a neat
anvil crawler) and several thousand homes were blacked out apparently.

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: MT BULLER WIND
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]
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Mean wind at Mt Buller AWS peaked at 59kts this afternoon. This is close to
hurricane strength. Anybody heard of any damage?
MH
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:10:40 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Big Snowfalls Expected...
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The passage of a neat cold low developing and centred 
around the VIC/NSW border north of Bendigo at 0730UTC plus 
accompanying cold front will produce some big snowfalls 
tonight. This will add to already good snowfalls in the
last 36 hours being +30cm last night and about +10cm since 
9am today at Perisher Valley. Tonight's dump could be looking 
at +30cm also with the added benefit of being colder and dryer. 
These falls may also extend to the Central Tablelands earlier 
than previously expected which was Wed/Thu. It's about time
that winter has finally reinstated itself... 

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Weatherwatch meeting for those in Sydney
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For those in Sydney, I would like you to take note of the following weatherwatch meeting. The ASWA members in Sydney are working in close association with the Weatherwatch group and had a good showing at the last meeting on the Sydney Hailstorm. Now here is your chance to meet Laurier Williams on the list. (Sorry Laurier)
AUSTRALIAN METEOROLOGICAL AND OCEANOGRAPHIC SOCIETY
A.M.0.S. SYDNEY CENTRE  WEATHERWATCH GROUP
NEWSLETTER              No.997  JULY 1999
The Next Meeting of the A.M.0.S. Weatherwatch Group will be held on WEDNESDAY 28TH of JULY 1999 at 730pm(19:30) in Room 143 of Building E5A at Macquarie University. Building E5A is on the left of Eastern Road, near carpark E3 or E4.
The Subject is "Weather and Snowfalls in the Mountains" and we have invited Mr. Laurier Williams to introduce the subject and begin the discussion. This will be an informal meeting with continuous refreshments, and members records, particularly of snow, low temperatures, or winter storms, are to be encouraged.
The Last Meeting of the Weatherwatch Group was held on 26th may, and our speaker was Mr. Rob. Webb from the Severe Weather Section of the Bureau of Meteorology. Rob gave us a very comprehensive study of thunderstorms, and the causes of the various 'severe weather' which can be associated with them, and the radar imaging in use. Rob concluded by answering a barrage of questions from the large, enthusiastic audience, and continued the discussion afterwards during the serving of the refreshments.
The A.M.0.S. Scientific Meeting on 30th June at the Bureau featured Mr. Michael Johnson from the E.P.A. speaking on Meteorological Measurement to support Air Quality Research particularly in the Western Sydney Basin, Badgery's Creek.
Future Weatherwatch Meetings will be held on September 29 and November 24 and maybe December and members are welcome to bring their observations and records of Thunderstorms and plans for Storm Spotting, Storm Chasing, and Analysis of Results. If you want to know more about Weatherwatch, Meetings, or the interests of the Group, Please Phone one of the following on the Committee :
Roger Nurse, Convenor, (02) 9449.1473 Alan Williams, Committee, (02) 9488.9975 Paul Graham, Committee, (02) 9888.2527
visitors are very welcome, but please remember parking in the University Grounds requires a permit, or the paying of money to a nearby parking meter (pay and display) $1.00 per hour (max $4.00 up to midnight). The meter displays the allotted time on its screen as you pay, and issues a ticket which clearly shows the expiry time and the date. The ticket must show clearly inside your windscreen on the drivers side.
Finally, we look forward to seeing you at the Weatherwatch Meeting on Wednesday 28th July. Please bring your ideas to this meeting for future Weatherwatch Meetings, especially for 29th September, and 24th November 1999.
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Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: MT BULLER WIND
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:34:15 +1000
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Mark,

Generally the trees/buildings in the alps are more used to winds of this
speed when compared to trees/buildings down here.   Although - last August
I went to Mt Baw Baw for a weekend and when we got there on the friday
night a gale warning was current and by the next morning 1 in every 3 trees
had been snapped off at half trunk level.  I'm talking serious trees here. 
The largest was about 1ft in diameter.  I guess the wind would've got to
about 130km/h that night - we tried to walk in it but found it almost
impossible.

Macca. 

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> From: Mark Hardy 
> To: AUssie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aus-wx: MT BULLER WIND
> Date: Monday, 19 July 1999 14:42
> 
> Mean wind at Mt Buller AWS peaked at 59kts this afternoon. This is close
to
> hurricane strength. Anybody heard of any damage?
> MH
> --
> _____________________________________________________
> Mark Hardy.
> The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
> Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060
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