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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Skew - T charts 002 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] high Pressure 003 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] High, Snow, etc 004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] high Pressure 005 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] high Pressure 006 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] game prediction 007 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Strahan wx 008 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Warm July day in Perth 009 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] [Fwd: Re: [WX-CHASE] evapotranspiration] 010 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] high Pressure 011 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] High pressures sytems and Hadley Cells 012 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Warm July day in Perth 013 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] game prediction 014 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Dry Winter 015 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Dry Winter 016 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au] Dry Winter/Victorian Is Just Alive 017 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Lifted Index page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:36:05 +0100 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Personal - ICQ 17296776 - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aus-wx [aussie-weather at world.std.com] David Croan, Jimmy Deguara , Matt Smith Subject: aus-wx: Skew - T charts Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear all (and the list) A useful source of data from guess where??? http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html Les +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 002 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:21:24 -0700 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: high Pressure Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very funny John! The comedian in me will try and think of something to better it when i get time. :-) Lindsay Pearce > > But... Lack of storms is really getting to me - I had to fill up the > spa-bath last night with really hot water so I could create TCu in the > bathroom. Really is fascinating stuff, convection in microcosm. You even > get the occasional very brief vortex. You need to get the room dew point > right to see the development and I find it helps if you can arrange (as I > can) open windows high near the ceiling to provide a cold cross layer... > (reckon it beats throwing a bucket of ice cubes over the backyard to > simulate hail, Anthony). > > John. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lindsay [SMTP:writer at lisp.com.au] > Sent: Saturday, 24 July 1999 1:23 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: high Pressure > > God, look at the size of that bloody big High over Southern Australia > again! > > Please go away. > > Anybody have any insights into further snow/cold front developments > heading our way? Why are these highs so low this year? > > Lindsay P. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 003 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:26:35 -0700 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: High, Snow, etc Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What influences are causing such big and strong Highs to remain so low on the continent this year? Lindsay Pearce. Michael Scollay wrote: > > McDonald wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > Leaving for Falls Creek in less than half an hour. > > > > WWWWWOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!1 > > Leaving for Perisher at 3:47 this afternoon. I know the > resort like the back of my hand and always find a place > to ski out of the crowds. Perisher-Blue is Australia's > largest ski resport bar none and they also got the most > amount of snow in the last week and a half. Looks like > this is "the weekend of the season so far". > > According to the long-term models, such as; > > http://meteora.ucsd.edu/ecpc/m2s/m2s_ECPC_forecasts.html > > not a good outlook at all for the remainder of the season. > On the positive side, the above model has often been > notoriously wrong, but when they persist with above average > temperature forecasts for the Snowy Mountains part of > Australia over such a long period, it often rings true:-( > I've been monitoring this model's output for some time now > by a rough check against reality. Don't take any note of > W10-W13, there seems to be a major trend flaw in the model > that is persistent. Big Note: These are "experimental > forecasts only". Use at your own risk. > > [snip] > > Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 004 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 10:48:07 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: high Pressure Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > But... Lack of storms is really getting to me - Meanwhile, MN (Minnesota, did I spell it correctly??) had CAPE's up to 7000 yesterday (mentioned in a severe thunderstorm warning for them) with DP's in the low 80's (high 20's) - it really shows how much moisture can effect CAPE. But, when you think of the position of MN, and the position of the Gulf of Mexico, that's some serious moisture advection happening to travel that far north!! It makes me wonder though sometimes, that is what would happen of the Eastern Highlands (Great Dividing Range) didn't exist. In January, a cold pool moved up there and gave LI's of -8 to -10, and going through AVN archived skew-ts, CAPE was generally around 2500-3500 (kept lower by a large cap at the surface). Temperature were typically in the high 30's, but DP's were in the mid to high teens. One could assume, that without the Eastern Highlands, moisture advection from NE winds would be fairly great (especially if there's an inland trough, which with the 'summer heat trough' there often is). Instability certainly would increase significantly. Whether or not this would actually cause more severe thunderstorms would depend on the shearing though. Does anyone have any thoughts/comments? > I had to fill up the spa-bath last night with really hot water so I could > create TCu in the bathroom. Really is fascinating stuff, convection in > microcosm. You even > get the occasional very brief vortex. You need to get the room dew point > right to see the development and I find it helps if you can arrange (as I > can) open windows high near the ceiling to provide a cold cross layer... > (reckon it beats throwing a bucket of ice cubes over the backyard to > simulate hail, Anthony). ROFL!!! Hmm...I'm still not sure if anything beats throwing a 4kg block of ice onto concrete to stimulate hail :) I'd throw it on the roof, but I think I might need that!! You should get the Mr Matey bubble bath out to help make some more solid looking TCU, and if you're really clever, you might be able to add an anvil too! We had 8.4mm to 9am there, currently 13.8C (10:47am).... brrrrrrr cold!!!! Anthony from Brisbane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 005 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: high Pressure Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:19:48 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >snip Yeah Anthony, I tried the Mr Matey, but all the bubbles acts as an insulator inhibiting the generation of steamy updraughts. I find turning on the spa jets greatly assists however. John. p.s. I hope all this adds some amusement to our otherwise rather boring times. > I had to fill up the spa-bath last night with really hot water so I could > create TCu in the bathroom. Really is fascinating stuff, convection in > microcosm. You even > get the occasional very brief vortex. You need to get the room dew point > right to see the development and I find it helps if you can arrange (as I > can) open windows high near the ceiling to provide a cold cross layer... > (reckon it beats throwing a bucket of ice cubes over the backyard to > simulate hail, Anthony). ROFL!!! Hmm...I'm still not sure if anything beats throwing a 4kg block of ice onto concrete to stimulate hail :) I'd throw it on the roof, but I think I might need that!! You should get the Mr Matey bubble bath out to help make some more solid looking TCU, and if you're really clever, you might be able to add an anvil too! We had 8.4mm to 9am there, currently 13.8C (10:47am).... brrrrrrr cold!!!! Anthony from Brisbane +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 006 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: game prediction Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:22:45 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, The BoM's LAPS+36 prognosis chart suggests this also. Given recent sat pics & continued drizzle here with zero wind (when we should have a howling SE'ter) , something is 'up'. The UTC=0 IR pic shows a kink in the cloud band developing over SE QLD. John. -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy Deguara [SMTP:jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, 23 July 1999 21:32 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: game prediction Hi Jimmy here, I know this is game but it is always a challenge to make a punt in the weather forecasting business. I am closely monitoring the situation over SE Qld. I believe this will develop into a trough of low pressure and a possible low off the coast despite what the models suggest. It will take a few days though, though I expect rain from this system. Oh well. Always good to have a go. Jimmy Deguara +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 007 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:37:11 +1000 From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Strahan wx Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone We just had a cold front pass over us with 3.6mm rainfall. The wind now in the SW at 15 knots. Forecast is for snow down to 700m tonight. Current temp 10C. Chas Strahan Tasmania +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 008 X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 14:15:43 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: Warm July day in Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite warm in Perth today for July, currently at 2:10pm its 25.2C, warmest July day since the 21st July, 1994 when it got to 25.8C. Warmest July day on record at the city site occured in July, 1976 when we had a 4 days in a row of over 25C, it was 25.0 on the 16th, 26.3 on the 17th, 26.3 on the 18th, and 25.2C on the 19th. Tomorrow may be another warm day, but it depends when the cloud comes in before that next cold front, BoM are forecasting 22C. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 009 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:54:39 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: [Fwd: Re: [WX-CHASE] evapotranspiration] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I thought this was a very interesting email, involving evapotranspiration and how it effects the wx. Makes you wonder how much we have really altered the climate by doing things like this, although I'd like concrete evidence on the evapotranspiration effects before I start saying too much, but in theory, it appears sound. Anthony Cornelius -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: [WX-CHASE] evapotranspiration >Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:07:58 -0400 >From: Stephen Jascourt >Reply-To: Stephen Jascourt >To: WX-CHASE at POSTOFFICE.CSO.UIUC.EDU Lon Curtis provided a fine description of evapotranspiration. A few things I should add: Corn is extremely efficient at evapotranspiration. Corn fields will give off more water than evaporation over a flat surface of water! Wheat is not nearly as effective - agreeing with what you might think would be the case - wheat is a grass and is adapted to a drier climate than corn. This is why you see 80 dewpoints in the upper midwest but seldom in the southern plains/lower midwest. As the air moves north from the Gulf, more moisture is being added enroute! The models have vegetation and soil models within them, but due to computer constraints for running the forecast in real time, they cannot be too terribly sophisticated. Further, there are many important details affecting exchanges of water and heat between the vegetation, the earth, and the atmosphere which we don't know how to model well or may not even have many good measurements on to know if we are doing it right or not. Recent investigation found that the NCEP Eta model has some problems with the amount of solar energy it calculates should be stored in the ground under bare soil conditions and with the energy balance with vegetation. It turns out that when the ground has a moderate amount of vegetation so it takes an average of these conditions, the model makes a good prediction, but during the vegetation peak, the model is too warm and with bare ground the model has too little diurnal range and can be too cool. Other models probably have other problems. I don't know if there is a systematic problem or not in the amount of evapotranspiration simulated in the forecast models (I will probably be finding out soon). But it most definitely is included in the model, as Lon said. The extent to which it affects the surface dewpoints predicted depends also on how accurately the model is simulating the depth of the daytime boundary layer and mixing across the top of the boundary layer. For instance, if it has the right amount of evapotranspiration but has the mixed layer too shallow, the forecast dewpoint will be too high but the vertically integrated water content (precipitable water) would be correct. Enough for now. Stephen Jascourt jascourt at earthlink.net +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from WX-CHASE send e-mail to LISTSERV at PO.UIUC.EDU with "unsub wx-chase" in the body of your message. For help with WX-CHASE see http://ralph.centerone.com/wxfaq.html or write chris at siu.edu. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 010 From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: high Pressure Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:07:54 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Sailors(s), (Mr Matey add from years ago!!) John, I'm sure Mr Fujita would have been very interested in you and your bathroom, keep up the good work! -- Andrew Miskelly Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW amiskelly at ozemail.com.au -----Original Message----- From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com' [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Date: Saturday, 24 July 1999 14:18 Subject: RE: aus-wx: high Pressure >>snip > >Yeah Anthony, I tried the Mr Matey, but all the bubbles acts as an >insulator inhibiting the generation of steamy updraughts. I find turning >on the spa jets greatly assists however. > >John. > >p.s. I hope all this adds some amusement to our otherwise rather boring >times. > >> I had to fill up the spa-bath last night with really hot water so I could >> create TCu in the bathroom. Really is fascinating stuff, convection in >> microcosm. You even >> get the occasional very brief vortex. You need to get the room dew point >> right to see the development and I find it helps if you can arrange (as I >> can) open windows high near the ceiling to provide a cold cross layer... >> (reckon it beats throwing a bucket of ice cubes over the backyard to >> simulate hail, Anthony). > >ROFL!!! Hmm...I'm still not sure if anything beats throwing a 4kg block of >ice onto concrete to stimulate hail :) I'd throw it on the roof, but I >think >I might need that!! >You should get the Mr Matey bubble bath out to help make some more solid >looking TCU, and if you're really clever, you might be able to add an anvil >too! > >We had 8.4mm to 9am there, currently 13.8C (10:47am).... brrrrrrr cold!!!! > >Anthony from Brisbane > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 011 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:34:52 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: High pressures sytems and Hadley Cells Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane here.. In reply to the email about why why the highs are so strong and so far south this winter (accidentally deleted the email).. I don't know why i have this stuck in my head.. but i was reading up about the Hadley cells a few weeks ago, and i could have sworn i read something like "if the SE trades are stronger then in turn the hadley cells are stronger and the mid latitude high pressure systems may be further south" or something along those lines.. I tried looking for the book/internet page that i may have read this on.. but couldn't find it again.. this could be totally wrong.. wish i could find where i read it.. I will be emailing a few Met ppl in the states and around Australia on this subject, as i wouldn't mind finding out some possible reasons for the high placements and strength this winter.. Any thoughts/theories from the more experienced weather folk on the list? I know there are a few BOM people on the list, any thoughts? Mind you, i'm not complaining.. we have had one of the wettest winter for years.. with a further 40mm in the past 24 hours from steady light rain, with the odd occasional moderate period.. It looks like the best of it has just passed out to see over the last few hours though (5pm Saturday) going by the sat pics.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 012 X-Sender: jacob at iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:15:56 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warm July day in Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The maximum today ended up reaching 25.4C, the 4th warmest July day ever recorded. IDA00W00 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NOTES ON THE WEATHER FOR WESTERN AUSTRALIA Issued at 4:00pm WST on Saturday the 24th of July 1999 RECENT EVENTS: NORTHERN HALF: Fine conditions persist with fresh, gusty E'ly winds. SOUTHERN HALF: It was a fine, sunny day generally after a cold night. Perth experienced the fourth warmest July on record, with a maximum of 25.4 degrees. Jacob At 02:15 24/07/99 +0800, you wrote: > >Quite warm in Perth today for July, currently at 2:10pm its 25.2C, warmest >July day since the 21st July, 1994 when it got to 25.8C. > >Warmest July day on record at the city site occured in July, 1976 when we >had a 4 days in a row of over 25C, it was 25.0 on the 16th, 26.3 on the >17th, 26.3 on the 18th, and 25.2C on the 19th. > >Tomorrow may be another warm day, but it depends when the cloud comes in >before that next cold front, BoM are forecasting 22C. > >Jacob > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 013 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:43:38 +1000 From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: game prediction Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The prognostic chart for Monday has a low in the Coral Sea with a strong high in the south Tasman. Looks exactly like a summer chart and if it were summer we'd have a TC. If the 7-day forecast chart is reliable, I'd say this low will get a wriggle on and move south-southwest to be off the north coast next weekend or soon after, between the retreating high and the next one coming in from the west. As usual, time will tell... Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi Jimmy here, > > I know this is game but it is always a challenge to make a punt in the > weather forecasting business. I am closely monitoring the situation over SE > Qld. I believe this will develop into a trough of low pressure and a > possible low off the coast despite what the models suggest. It will take a > few days though, though I expect rain from this system. > > Oh well. Always good to have a go. > > Jimmy Deguara > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Vice President ASWA > from Schofields, Sydney > e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au > homepage with Michael Bath > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 014 X-Originating-Ip: [203.108.0.58] From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Dry Winter Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 02:00:41 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I notice that Canberra so far is running at well under 50% of July average rainfall - with little prospect of getting any more before the end of the month. Blair's comments about Melbourne's weather (or lack of) combined with the almost invisibility of any other Victorians on the list - are there any other Victorians on the list?? - made me a bit more curious as to how winter was going elsewhere. The BOM has an interesting new page titled "Southern Wet Season to date" which displays rain from 1 April to date. The address is: http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/pseason1a.shtml The picture is a dry one. Apart from an area in the Pilbara, W Cape York and E Arnhem Land and tiny bits of Nthn NSW and SE Qld coast, the rest of the country is well below average. I would say two thirds of the country has received less that 40% of normal rainfall since April. Things must be looking a bit ominous in the Vic, SA and parts of NSW and Darling Downs winter cropping areas. I hope I am wrong but perhaps it won't be too long before the "D" word starts to gain currency. Patrick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 015 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:13:20 +1000 From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dry Winter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Especially also when you look at the latest rainfall probability map which shows many areas only having 20-40% chance of exceeding the median rainfall from July to September. But if the SOI doesn't take a dramatic plunge by the end of that period I wouldn't be surprised to see some drought-preventing rain in October as northern troughs develop..it's happened before.. And of course, even with a negative SOI there could still be heavy rain, as in September 1995 for example... Patrick Tobin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I notice that Canberra so far is running at well under > 50% of July average rainfall - with little prospect > of getting any more before the end of the month. > > Blair's comments about Melbourne's weather (or lack of) > combined with the almost invisibility of any other > Victorians on the list - are there any other Victorians > on the list?? - made me a bit more curious as to how > winter was going elsewhere. > > The BOM has an interesting new page titled > "Southern Wet Season to date" which displays rain from > 1 April to date. > > The address is: > http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/pseason1a.shtml > > The picture is a dry one. Apart from an area in the > Pilbara, W Cape York and E Arnhem Land and tiny bits > of Nthn NSW and SE Qld coast, the rest of the country > is well below average. > > I would say two thirds of the country has received > less that 40% of normal rainfall since April. Things > must be looking a bit ominous in the Vic, SA and parts > of NSW and Darling Downs winter cropping areas. > > I hope I am wrong but perhaps it won't be too long > before the "D" word starts to gain currency. > > Patrick > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 016 From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Dry Winter/Victorian Is Just Alive Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:18:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Patrick we are still alive down here in Victoria, holding on to our faint memories of interesting weather. It really has been the most boring winter in Melbourne that I can remember, dominated by high pressure, with cold outbreaks few, well one. Nothing in the outlook period but high pressure, weak fronts and stratocumulus. Oh well, maybe it will be one of the driest July's on record. Looking forward to the drizzle tomorrow morning, will be up nice and early for it :) Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Tobin [pdtobin at hotmail.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: aus-wx: Dry Winter > Hi all, > > I notice that Canberra so far is running at well under > 50% of July average rainfall - with little prospect > of getting any more before the end of the month. > > Blair's comments about Melbourne's weather (or lack of) > combined with the almost invisibility of any other > Victorians on the list - are there any other Victorians > on the list?? - made me a bit more curious as to how > winter was going elsewhere. > > The BOM has an interesting new page titled > "Southern Wet Season to date" which displays rain from > 1 April to date. > > The address is: > http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/pseason1a.shtml > > The picture is a dry one. Apart from an area in the > Pilbara, W Cape York and E Arnhem Land and tiny bits > of Nthn NSW and SE Qld coast, the rest of the country > is well below average. > > I would say two thirds of the country has received > less that 40% of normal rainfall since April. Things > must be looking a bit ominous in the Vic, SA and parts > of NSW and Darling Downs winter cropping areas. > > I hope I am wrong but perhaps it won't be too long > before the "D" word starts to gain currency. > > Patrick > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 017 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:10:28 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lifted Index page Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane here.. Anthony Cornelius and I have been working on a Lifted Index page over the past few weeks, and it is now ready for the web.. You can find it at: http://www.nemas.net/edu/liftedindex/liftedindex.htm And this page is now part of the NEMAS weather education section, which can be found here: http://www.nemas.net/edu/index.htm The page offers an explanation of what the Lifted Index is, how it works and also how to plot Lifted Index forecasts for anywhere in the world (including a guide to the AVN and MRF raw data site).. I cannot recommend this page highly enough for anyone who likes thunderstorms on this list.. the Lifted Index is probably the most useful forecasted variable that we have available in Australia.. and the forecasts are very very easy to comprehend.. I also have to thank Jacob Aufdemkampe (co-owner of the list) for his help on the timezones for the AVN datasets.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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