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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
002 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Question
003 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Snow for Weekend!
004 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Swiss flash flood
005 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
006 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
007 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
008 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Swiss flash flood
009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Swiss flash flood
010 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Heat Wave continues in USA
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow - fizzer again?
012 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Heat Wave continues in USA
013 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
014 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Numbers OF Torndoes in Aus
015 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Snow - fizzer again?
016 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Fw: Question for the Weather Guru
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Fw: Question for the Weather Guru
018 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Snow - fizzer again?
019 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow - fizzer again?
020 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Snow - fizzer again?
021 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Wind Power
022 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Snow - fizzer again?
023 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
024 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Numbers or Torndoes in Ausstralia
025 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Snow - fizzer again?
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001
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:21:28 +1000
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Do you really want an answer to that !
> What's the Doppler coverage of Australia like?
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:44:12 +1000
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I wish I did know as it looks spectacular, my guess it may be from rain
cooled air behind it meeting the warmer ( and calm ) air in the foreground.
Michael
> I have a question for the list, I saw this very unusual cloud formation
> about two weeks ago. Basically i have no idea what to call it! The pic can
> be seen at
> http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/wierd.jpg
> I scanned it alittle crappy so its fast to load.
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow for Weekend!
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:33:42 +1000
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Yes, the NGP has the 540 going near to the Queensland border.
The big reservation I have is the lack of low level moisture that appears to
be setting up, I really hate those ' football laying on the ground ' shaped
highs. Don't be surprised if this one brings more snow to the Northern
Tablelands then the Central Tablelands.
Michael
>
> In their 11:35 forecasts for SE NSW the BoM has decided that this next
> change looks a bit more than it initally did, it seems that snow will be
> likely on the Central and Southern Tablelands on Friday night and
Saturday.
> It's interesting that GASP still doesn't have the 540 thickness line
coming
> as far north as some of the US modells do. I know who I hope's right!!
>
> Hopefully it continues to develop toward the upper bounds of the
forecasts!
>
> Andrew.
>
> --
> Andrew Miskelly
> Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:44:10 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swiss flash flood
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> I haven't seen any rainfall figures yet, but hopefully something
> might turn up on uk.sci.weather - this is accessible via DejaNews if
> you don't have a newsserver which carries it.
>
>
Have posted a request to uk.sci.weather, know nothing about the rainfall
figures myself!!
This event was widely reported in the press as "freak", which it isn't. ):
BTW, Switzerland has had two supercells in the last 10 years.....
Les
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:59:10 +0100
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Michael Thompson wrote:
> Do you really want an answer to that !
>
> > What's the Doppler coverage of Australia like?
> >
Presumably it's that good.... (:
The UK has ONE doppler radar, caused much excitement when a severe storm
passed it.
Les
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:23:42 +1000
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Hey Les..
We actually have 3 Dopplers in Australia.. One in Sydney (the capital of
Australia), one in Melbourne (capital of Victoria) and another one in
Darwin (the capital of the Northern Territory) in NW Australia.. why
somewhere like SE Queensland/NE New South Wales, one of the hotspots of
Australia for severe storms, doesn't have one i'll never know.. but
hopefully that'll change over the next few years..
Les Crossan wrote:
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> > Do you really want an answer to that !
> >
> > > What's the Doppler coverage of Australia like?
> > >
>
> Presumably it's that good.... (:
>
> The UK has ONE doppler radar, caused much excitement when a severe storm
> passed it.
>
>
>
> Les
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>Hey Les..
>
>We actually have 3 Dopplers in Australia.. One in Sydney (the capital of
>Australia),
Whooaa Ben! I hope that was just a slip of the wrist or a cheeky attempt
to stir the pot. Last time I checked my taxes were going to Canberra, not
Sydney!!
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swiss flash flood
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:34:44 +1000
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Hi Les and all,
>This event was widely reported in the press as "freak", which it isn't. ):
I do agree with you.... perhaps there's a variation of the word "freak" which
depends on your point of reference. So, if the people who are affected by a
particular event only experience it very rarely, then perhaps THEY could call it
freak, but only using them as a point of reference.
Not very constructive though...
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Date: Thursday, 29 July 1999 3:49
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swiss flash flood
>> I haven't seen any rainfall figures yet, but hopefully something
>> might turn up on uk.sci.weather - this is accessible via DejaNews if
>> you don't have a newsserver which carries it.
>>
>>
>
>Have posted a request to uk.sci.weather, know nothing about the rainfall
>figures myself!!
>
>This event was widely reported in the press as "freak", which it isn't. ):
>
>BTW, Switzerland has had two supercells in the last 10 years.....
>
>Les
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swiss flash flood
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:56:46 +1000 (EST)
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>
> This event was widely reported in the press as "freak", which it isn't. ):
Couldn't agree more. The Illgraben flood of August 1996 which I
described in my last post - which by all reports was of comparable
severity to this one (fortunately there was no-one in the way) -
was, according to the locals, to be expected 1-2 times per year in
that stream. To steal a line from the 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Galaxy', if that is freak, then evidently a new definition of the
word 'freak' exists that I wasn't previously aware of. (Any
journalists reading be warned - any use of the f-word will be
sent directly to 'Media Watch'....).
> BTW, Switzerland has had two supercells in the last 10 years.....
>
> Les
I'm surprised it was only two - although most of the thunderstorms
I've experienced in that region (and I once experienced seven
separate thunderstorms there in the space of 48 hours) have had heavy
rain but no severe winds, hail etc.
(Probably not good chase country - too many mountains in the way!)
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:54:37 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Heat Wave continues in USA
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44 people killed in USA from heatwave conditions....... seems that the "freak"
conditions continue......
Paul at Port.
Ps Its is absolutely beautiful here today!
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:42:48 -0700
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow - fizzer again?
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Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems to be the
Bom's forecast.
Anybody else got any thoughts?
Lindsay P.
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>44 people killed in USA from heatwave conditions....... seems that the "freak"
>conditions continue......
>
>Paul at Port.
How long is it going to be before these conditions stop becoming 'freak'
and finally get accepted as a sign of possible global climate change, or is
this just going against human nature?
(Note that I haven't brought up whether climate change is human
induced...after noting the pointless diatribes about this one on many
different newsgroups over the years - I'm bying out of that one)
Phil, from an incredibly warm and sunny (its over 20 degrees) Adelaide. I
want the winter back!
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Numbers or Torndoes in Aus
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:32:28 +1000
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Perhaps I am not the best to ask, but I think the Australian count is
similar.
Michael
>
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> > Do you really want an answer to that !
> >
> > > What's the Doppler coverage of Australia like?
> > >
>
> Presumably it's that good.... (:
>
> The UK has ONE doppler radar, caused much excitement when a severe storm
> passed it.
>
>
>
> Les
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Numbers OF Torndoes in Aus
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Michael - Ben has already told Les how many. There are 3 dopplers used by the
BOM in Australia.
Sydney
Melbourne
Darwin.
Paul.
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Perhaps I am not the best to ask, but I think the Australian count is
similar.
Michael
>
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> > Do you really want an answer to that !
> >
> > > What's the Doppler coverage of Australia like?
> > >
>
> Presumably it's that good.... (:
>
> The UK has ONE doppler radar, caused much excitement when a severe storm
> passed it.
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>
>
> Les
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:17:03 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Looks like a fizer - but what about the next one (Thursday?)
Don W.
Lindsay wrote:
>
> Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
>
> That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems to be the
> Bom's forecast.
>
> Anybody else got any thoughts?
>
> Lindsay P.
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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Question for the Weather Guru
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:34:21 +1000
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Hi All,
Anyone want to tackle this request ?? Bit out of my league.
Regards,
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Ingrid Christiansen [IChristiansen at BSES.org.au]
To: Bill Webb (E-mail) [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
Date: Thursday, 29 July 1999 3:51 PM
Subject: Question for the Weather Guru
>
>Hi Webby,
>
>Here's an odd request for you.
>Anyway you could find me a long range weather forecast for Nepal in
>December?
>Trying to figure out if there's likely to be snowstorms when I'm
>planning to go up this mountain thing!
>
>Ta
>Ingrid
>
>
>
>INGRID CHRISTIANSEN
>Sustainable Farming Systems Officer
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>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: Question for the Weather Guru
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> Hi All,
>
> Anyone want to tackle this request ?? Bit out of my league.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ingrid Christiansen
> To: Bill Webb (E-mail)
> Date: Thursday, 29 July 1999 3:51 PM
> Subject: Question for the Weather Guru
>
>
> >
> >Hi Webby,
> >
> >Here's an odd request for you.
> >Anyway you could find me a long range weather forecast for Nepal in
> >December?
> >Trying to figure out if there's likely to be snowstorms when I'm
> >planning to go up this mountain thing!
> >
> >Ta
> >Ingrid
I don't know about long-range forecasts, but December is very much the
dry season in Nepal - at Kathmandu (which is the only place I can
get data for easily) the December mean precipitation (all rain at
their elevation) is only 10mm. I imagine this goes up as you get into
the mountains (and snow becomes more probable), but not drastically
so.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:14:19 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Lindsay wrote:
>
> Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
>
> That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems
> to be the Bom's forecast.
>
> Anybody else got any thoughts?
Latest BoM MSL analysis shows 3 fronts all lined-up to attack
that High. If that doesn't work what on Earth will?
Seriously though. Latest GASP puts a front (which front?)
through the Snowy's late Friday night then quickly clearing
as the next High exerts it's unseasonal dominance in that
part of the world then a weird warm-cored low dropping water
on the snow next Tuesday, turning back to snow next Wednesday.
AVN 18Z run has the front arrival in Snowy Mountains at about
16:00 on Friday with more rain preceding (10-15mm) and some
snow from about 20:00 (<10cm) then clearing.
As for MRF, well I've given up on the 144-288hr term because
this year, they seem to be really wrong. Over the period of
GASP, it agrees with the prospect of a cold front late Friday,
but considers less precipitation than GASP. MRF agrees with
GASP about a low forming next Tuesday but makes it a lot colder
with heavier snowfalls (>0.5m) next Tue to Sat if that is to be
believed! Let's hope...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:55:52 -0700
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I hope so Don. Surely those damn highs have to shift eventually so we
can get some of that August moisture...
Hmmm.
Lindsay P.
Don White wrote:
>
> Looks like a fizer - but what about the next one (Thursday?)
> Don W.
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
> >
> > That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems to be the
> > Bom's forecast.
> >
> > Anybody else got any thoughts?
> >
> > Lindsay P.
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:54:16 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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We can only wait in hope Michael. Actually there is a funny side to it.
I was thinking today that I must be one of the few people that gets
depressed with too much sunny weather as opposed to the norm of feeling
down in rainy/cold weather. I love it cold! Not that I don't love the
sun but...
Very Mild here on Thursday, got to 11.5 degrees at my station in
Blackheath.
Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
> >
> > That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems
> > to be the Bom's forecast.
> >
> > Anybody else got any thoughts?
>
> Latest BoM MSL analysis shows 3 fronts all lined-up to attack
> that High. If that doesn't work what on Earth will?
>
> Seriously though. Latest GASP puts a front (which front?)
> through the Snowy's late Friday night then quickly clearing
> as the next High exerts it's unseasonal dominance in that
> part of the world then a weird warm-cored low dropping water
> on the snow next Tuesday, turning back to snow next Wednesday.
>
> AVN 18Z run has the front arrival in Snowy Mountains at about
> 16:00 on Friday with more rain preceding (10-15mm) and some
> snow from about 20:00 (<10cm) then clearing.
>
> As for MRF, well I've given up on the 144-288hr term because
> this year, they seem to be really wrong. Over the period of
> GASP, it agrees with the prospect of a cold front late Friday,
> but considers less precipitation than GASP. MRF agrees with
> GASP about a low forming next Tuesday but makes it a lot colder
> with heavier snowfalls (>0.5m) next Tue to Sat if that is to be
> believed! Let's hope...
>
> Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:40:44 +1000
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Hello Everyone
A different weather topic.
The Hydroelectric Corporation of Tasmania has just purchased 3000Ha of
land in the far North West of Tasmania (Woolnorth) to build a
76MeggaWatt wind farm to come on line by 2004. A further two sites will
eventually produce a total of 400MeggaWatt.
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:15:42 +1200
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> We can only wait in hope Michael. Actually there is a funny side to it.
> I was thinking today that I must be one of the few people that gets
> depressed with too much sunny weather as opposed to the norm of feeling
> down in rainy/cold weather. I love it cold! Not that I don't love the
> sun but...
I find wintry, stormy weather exciting - the blasts of rain, hail, snow
etc - but it becomes a pain when instead of clearing up to fine skies, the
wet weather lingers on the form of drizzly rain and low cloud from a
persistent onshore flow. This scenario is typical of a La Nina cold
outbreak in Christchurch (and the one we've just had certainly followed
this pattern), wheras in an El Nino, the stormy stuff may come in with a
savage bang, but it usually goes just as quickly.
Back to rain again in the city (from a disturbance coming back to NZ from
the system that delivered the wintry blast of the previous few days) and
still chilly - somewhere around 5 C. Still we've had some sunny weather
today - you certainly appreciate it when you've been in continuous low
cloud for 2 days in a row.
Ben Tichborne
Christchurch
NZ
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:17:13 +1000
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Hey Phil..
Cheeky attempt to stir the pot
Phil Bagust wrote:
>
> >Hey Les..
> >
> >We actually have 3 Dopplers in Australia.. One in Sydney (the capital of
> >Australia),
>
> Whooaa Ben! I hope that was just a slip of the wrist or a cheeky attempt
> to stir the pot. Last time I checked my taxes were going to Canberra, not
> Sydney!!
>
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au
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John and Ira,
Based on John's point, I decided not to keep out of this and dig out one of
the Journal papers I acquired from the Bureau several years back. (I have
read most of it...I am simply lazy and hate reading!!!)
I hope you are aware that there was a combined study done by a BoM person
and two from the US on Australian tornadoes. The paper written on the
subject is called:
Characteristics of Australian Tornadoes
J.E. Minor, R.E. Peterson, and R.S. Lourensz (from the Bom)
This paper is interesting reading as it suggests that based on population
densities and reports of tornadoes, there are areas in Australia that
compare higher than the US for tornado densities!! But based on area
density, the US has far more.
The manuscript was revised in 1979.
It is worth a read and I would suggest looking in the BoM library for it.
If you want to find out more desparately, just call me as I am too bust at
this stage to write up the figures. I am preparing my 3rd presentation on
storm chasing to the Rotary Club for next monday.
Jimmy Deguara
At 11:29 28/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Just to add to this....
>
>I would think that WA would be in a similar position to QLD, given the size
>of the state and sparseness of population. It is interesting to observe
>how Tornado estimates for the USA have crept up over the years as
>population, awareness and monitoring tools have increased. Old
>publications have it as few as 60 per year.
>
>Obviously the same will happen in Oz. But I think Anthony, that attempting
>to get a handle on it is a good thing we should strive for, and we should
>not dismiss it as 'too hard'. Maybe we could come up with a simplistic
>model which estimates the possible number by using the actual number
>recorded, combined with a bunch of fudge factors relating to area,
>thunderstorm density and population density.
>
>John.
>
> >snip
>
>Thanks Anthony for your reply, your points are valid for all states i
>think, i spose the only hope we've got for an apporoximation on event
>numbers is a greater network of spotters. The reason I asked was cause i
>have a few interviews coming up and just wanted a general figure i could
>say. I have a fair idea for WA but for most other states i only have BOM
>recorded events and we know how accurate they are! Im also glad to see that
>you are taking the time to go through microfilms as well to gain some kind
>of idea, keep me posted on what you turn up
>
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:39:13 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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I can remember something from my earlier music studies about a medieval
folk song in which people of that time asked why 'winter storms invert
the year'. Looking at current surface charts, the current equivalent
would be 'summer highs inverting the weather map'. So many charts of
late have looked like summer or early autumn ones. The forecast charts a
few days hence more or less have another massive blocking high near NZ
and low pressure giving them another caning.And this is the first July I
have known in 27 years in which I have not observed a single frost (at
this location).Too much moisture perhaps, or the temperature inversion
just hasn't struggled up the hills far enough...
Lindsay wrote:
>
> Looks like that front on its way east is a fizzer again.
>
> That bloody high is attacking it again. At least this seems to be the
> Bom's forecast.
>
> Anybody else got any thoughts?
>
> Lindsay P.
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