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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Friday, 30 July 1999

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001 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Heat Wave continues in USA
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Heat Wave continues in USA
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Fw: Question for the Weather Guru
004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Lightning Detection
005 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        Wind Power
006 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Wind Power
007 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Wind Power
008 "Peter Adderley" [adderley at acay.com.au]        lunar eclipse
009 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Lightning Detection
010 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Wind Power
011 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             who aussie-weather
012 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       Calling all map people....?
013 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  ASWA AGM - T-shirts

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001

Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:00:51 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat Wave continues in USA
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Me tooooooooooo!

It deadset felt like September/October here today in the Upper
Mountains.

Climate change? Well, what else can it be? It's certainly been a pretty
warm decade.

Lindsay

.  
I  want the winter back!
> 
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:27:29 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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What's this???  You want winter back???  It's here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Too cold
for me still!  We have had more SE winds then SW winds though for winter, and
while max temps have not really been higher/lower - I believe that mins have
been slightly higher, but I don't think that much.  Our July min is 9.6C, and
we've had more 9.6+ then 9.6 - temps, but yes - still far too cold.  I can't
wait for summer!!!!!!!!!!!!

Meanwhile, about the heatwave in the US - there have been some incredible CAPE's
there....on the week-end, CAPE's went off the scale (scale goes to 8000) and the
SLI's (surface lifted index) was up to (or down to) -14, but on one Skew-T that
I was looking at, the 300mb LI's were -30C!!!  This was due to a combination of
high temperatures, and extremely high DP's (31C/28C in this case).

Meanwhile...it looks like my 'forecast' for much colder wx when I was going down
to Sydney came true...who needs forecast models when you can just use Murphy's
Law!!! :)

I'll be uncontactable from this email address until late Sunday, as I'll be
leaving for Sydney this afternoon.

Anthony Cornelius (from Brisbane)

Lindsay wrote:

> Me tooooooooooo!
>
> It deadset felt like September/October here today in the Upper
> Mountains.
>
> Climate change? Well, what else can it be? It's certainly been a pretty
> warm decade.
>
> Lindsay
>
> .
> I  want the winter back!
> >
> > Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> > paisley at cobweb.com.au
> > www.cobweb.com.au/~paisley
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:19:04 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Anyone want to tackle this request ?? Bit out of my league.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Bill
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ingrid Christiansen 
> > To: Bill Webb (E-mail) 
> > Date: Thursday, 29 July 1999 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Question for the Weather Guru
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Hi Webby,
> > >
> > >Here's an odd request for you.
> > >Anyway you could find me a long range weather forecast for Nepal in
> > >December?
> > >Trying to figure out if there's likely to be snowstorms when I'm
> > >planning to go up this mountain thing!
> > >
> > >Ta
> > >Ingrid
> I don't know about long-range forecasts, but December is very much the
> dry season in Nepal - at Kathmandu (which is the only place I can
> get data for easily) the December mean precipitation (all rain at
> their elevation) is only 10mm. I imagine this goes up as you get into
> the mountains (and snow becomes more probable), but not drastically
> so.

Ummph! Been there, done that and caught in a snowstorm too.
Kathmandu is way down there away from the mountain action.
Snowstorms sweep in from the NW and mainly deposit their load
when the cold continental air meets the slightly wetter stuff
(by comparison) still living toward the south of Nepal. Not 
uncommon to be bone dry in Kathmandu with 40cm of snow falling
in the mountains above 3,000m to the NW,N and NE. We got caught
in October with 0.5m falling over 3,500m while trekking around
Annapurna. Couldn't move for 2 days while avalanches thundered
day and night. That snowstorm went as low as 2,500m in October!
Friends I know have been there during December. They were caught
in snow above 2,000m that got heavier toward 4,000m but were
prepared. It was below -12C when they crossed a minor pass at 
4,200m. That's my advice - be prepared for any weather in Nepal.
It can be snowing on one side of the "pass" but fine on the other.
October to December is supposed to be clearer. That is 
statistically so according to the records but no person that
I know who's been there at that time has ever had totally clear
trekking but there is almost certain to be clear spells.
 
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:49:46 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,

I found this site today that has some (partially free) lightning tracker
images for AU (well, the globe) it's not the best...but it's worth a
visit.  Look at "browse OTD data"

http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/otd/

Anthony Cornlius

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:52:48 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,

The wind farm in Tasmania sounds like a great idea. 400 megawatts is huge!!!

Esperance (where I come from) has two wind farms that supply 14% of the
elsectricity needs of the town. But the total production from that wind farm
is only around 1.5 megawatts.

I hope that it shows the use of such a renewable energy source and that it
becomes a viable choice without too much government funding.

It must be windy down there too as it is in Esperance. Wind Grenerators in
Esperance produce power for around 80% to 90% of the time. It saves millions
of litres of deisel fuel each year as well.

Thank you for alerting me to that Chas as I will be keeping my ears out for
more information on it.

--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au


Chas & Helen Osborn wrote:

> Hello Everyone
>
> A different weather topic.
> The Hydroelectric Corporation of Tasmania has just purchased 3000Ha of
> land in the far North West of Tasmania (Woolnorth) to build a
> 76MeggaWatt wind farm to come on line by 2004. A further two sites will
> eventually produce a total of 400MeggaWatt.
>
> Chas
> Strahan Tasmania

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind Power
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:10:34 +1000 (EST)
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> The wind farm in Tasmania sounds like a great idea. 400 megawatts is huge!!!
The total electricity production capacity in Australia is ~50000 MW ,
so the farm, if it happened, would supply about 1% of Australia's 
needs (or probably 20-30% of Tasmania's?) - this is highly promising
stuff, not least because the HEC presumably wouldn't be doing it if
it wasn't going to be a commercial proposition.

> Esperance (where I come from) has two wind farms that supply 14% of the
> elsectricity needs of the town. But the total production from that wind farm
> is only around 1.5 megawatts.
> 
> I hope that it shows the use of such a renewable energy source and that it
> becomes a viable choice without too much government funding.
> 
> It must be windy down there too as it is in Esperance. Wind Grenerators in
> Esperance produce power for around 80% to 90% of the time. It saves millions
> of litres of deisel fuel each year as well.

It is a very windy area - it's probably better known in the 
meteorological community as Cape Grim.

Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind Power
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The HEC's media release on the matter is on the web at:

http://www.hydro.com.au/newsroom/1999/29July1999_1319.htm

(I'd paste it into the list, but it's fiddly to do this with my system)

Blair Trewin
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From: "Peter Adderley" [adderley at acay.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: lunar eclipse
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:12:32 +1000
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In case anyone missed the sight I've put up a few pics of the Wednesday's
lunar eclipse at:
http://www.acay.com.au/~adderley/lunareclipse/

Can anyone tell me if there has ever been much research on the effect of the
moon on rainfall?
My late father was working on the subject many years (or moons) ago with the
CSIRO.

Cheers,
Peter Adderley
(resident newbie and lurker)

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Detection
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:19:07 +1000
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A very interesting little map you found all the same. Interesting to note is
how the yellow of SE Australia extends seaward some kilometres, which kind
of reinforces what I thought for many years. Also that there is a patch of
higher activity in line with approx the NW slopes of NSW / Darling Downs -
interesting for our EOY storm chase.

The Amazon is not as ' hot ' as I would have thought, but the medium - high
activity extends well down into almost Patagonia, I have always thought that
the border areas of Argentina / Paraguay must get tornadoes.

Michael





----- Original Message -----
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Sent: Friday, 30 July 1999 10:49
Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Detection


> Hi all,
>
> I found this site today that has some (partially free) lightning tracker
> images for AU (well, the globe) it's not the best...but it's worth a
> visit.  Look at "browse OTD data"
>
> http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/otd/
>
> Anthony Cornlius
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind Power
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:22:47 +1000
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Certainly great to see, I always thought that Wollongong would be an ideal
place for wind generation, the escarpment ensures that there is downslope
offshores on many cold winter mornings ( when power is needed )  even when
there is frost and fog in Sydney's west. In summer the NE sea breeze gets to
20knots regularly.

Michael

> Hi all,
>
> The wind farm in Tasmania sounds like a great idea. 400 megawatts is
huge!!!
>
> Esperance (where I come from) has two wind farms that supply 14% of the
> elsectricity needs of the town. But the total production from that wind
farm
> is only around 1.5 megawatts.
>
> I hope that it shows the use of such a renewable energy source and that it
> becomes a viable choice without too much government funding.
>
> It must be windy down there too as it is in Esperance. Wind Grenerators in
> Esperance produce power for around 80% to 90% of the time. It saves
millions
> of litres of deisel fuel each year as well.
>
> Thank you for alerting me to that Chas as I will be keeping my ears out
for
> more information on it.
>
> --
> Michael Fewings
> Strike One Lightning Photos
> http://strikeone.com.au
>
>
> Chas & Helen Osborn wrote:
>
> > Hello Everyone
> >
> > A different weather topic.
> > The Hydroelectric Corporation of Tasmania has just purchased 3000Ha of
> > land in the far North West of Tasmania (Woolnorth) to build a
> > 76MeggaWatt wind farm to come on line by 2004. A further two sites will
> > eventually produce a total of 400MeggaWatt.
> >
> > Chas
> > Strahan Tasmania
>
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:37:36 +1000
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Hey guys

Send your email to majordomo at world.std.com with: who aussie-weather  in the
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Matt Smith


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Subject: aus-wx: Calling all map people....?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:54:16 EST
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Hey everyone

I must apologise for the blank email preceding this. In the efforts of doing 
the database thingy I have come upon a stumbling block. That is maps. I 
wished to include some simple maps in the publication but all companies I 
have contacted either want a royalty fee or haven't got back to me.
I spoke to Susan at a meeting and she said something about government maps 
which are free of charge or somethig. I was just seeing if she is still on 
the list.
If anyone knows anything about maps and copyright, and where I could get 
some, that I could reproduce, any correspondance would be greatly 
appreciated. Don't forget that they need to be pretty localised and cover 
country areas.
Thanks

daniel weatherhead
weatherhead at ozemail.com.au


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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:34:14 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA AGM - T-shirts
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For those attending the ASWA AGM tomorrow and who have ordered
T-shirts from Jane O'Neil, please have your money ready to pay.
I will be bringing along all T-shirts etc. that were ordered
for NSW people so they can pick them up at the ASWA AGM.

Michael Scollay
mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
Treasurer, ASWA Inc.
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