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001 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
002 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
003 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] Melbourne early storms
004 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] Interesting Weather Situation....
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
006 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] Interesting Weather Situation....
007 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
008 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] South America
009 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] World Synoptic Map
010 Ross Wilson [ross at cww.octec.org.au] Snow in Orange
011 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Weather on Ranges
012 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Small Hail in the Lower Blue Mtns
013 Patrick Tobin [pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au] Canberra sleet
014 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Matt Smith has gone Chasing
015 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Weather on Ranges
016 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
017 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Chilly in Blackheath
018 Ross Wilson [ross at cww.octec.org.au] Still snowing near Orange
019 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] World Synoptic Map
020 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] South America
021 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Sydney's weather
022 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Chilly in Blackheath
023 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Snow in Taralga!
024 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Sydney's weather
025 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] South America
026 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Oberon Snow
027 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Chilly in Blackheath
028 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] Sydney Wx
029 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] South America
030 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] Sydney wx
031 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] snow
032 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Surprise!! Another Fizzer!
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001
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 06:29:06 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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7am Saturday
Temp 1.5
Wet bulb = 0
Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
Lindsay P.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:17:54 +1000
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Lindsay and the "snow watchers"
a weak surface low appears to have developed inland from Bega and moving
NNE. It may be a reflection of upper cold pool. the BOM 1800 (3 am)
chart draws a front from this out over central west but from 3 am
surface data it is difficult to see why they have. In any case, either
that "front" or the movement NE of the possible low should see something
happening in the Sydney region by mid afternoon at the latest. However,
air could be very dry not far west of coast line. small hail more likely
don White
Lindsay wrote:
>
> 7am Saturday
>
> Temp 1.5
>
> Wet bulb = 0
>
> Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
> but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
>
> Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
> moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
>
> Lindsay P.
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne early storms
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:10:02 +1000
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Morning All
After the rain started at 6:30pm last night out here in Greensborough I was
hoping for some action (hail) while I was driving around delivering pizzas
but to no avail - it just rained and i got wet and cold. The rain stopped
at about 9:30ish and I got home from work at 11:00pm and in bed by 11:30.
I was woken up by heavy rain which promptly turned to hail at about 2:30am
so i ran outside (brrrrr) and had a quick look - tiny rice grain hail -
probably not enough to warrant a trip outside in my boxershorts at 2:30am.
Anyway - I was woken by my sister this morning as she was whinging about
the fact that she had to get up early. No more than five minutes later I
heard it. The sound. Tink. Tink. Tinktink. Then the little roar.
Louder. Louder. Then Whhoooooshhhhhh. HAIL HAIL HAIL. I have never got
out of bed on a saturday morning so quickly. Straight to the lounge room
window to see hail absolutely pissing down. WOOOOOHHHHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! It
was only small (pea sze - with the biggest about 1cm) but there was a fair
bit in the 2-3 mins that it lasted. I could see another curtain of it
coming across the shallow valley and then i could hear it again. Next
thing I know the street light goes out and there is a huge FLASH!!! and
then CRACK!!!!. Prolly about 600m away. I jumped up and down and ran
around the house screaming (SDS does this to a person). Anyway - after the
rain stopped i went for a look around. Not all that much to see but I've
been hanging out for these proper winter Cb's to kick in. I rang the BoM
to let them know about the hail and thunder and the guy was not surprised
about the hail but very surprised about the thunder. Another more distant
thunder was heard just after that phone call and that was the end. I went
outside and watched the line disappear over to the N.
What a lovely way to wake up of a morning. Thanks to the waether god (feel
free to do it again).
Andrew McDonald.
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Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Weather Situation....
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:32:10 PDT
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This is what I tried to send last night:
Hi Everyone,
It certainly looks like an interesting situation with this cold air
approaching. One of the things I noticed was that the upper levels have
become very unstable in advance with 500temps at Wagga this morning nearly
-30c, while at Sydney Airport this afternoon they were nearing -25c! Total
Totals for Williamtown this morning was 52 which gives some indication of
the instability. I also observed spetacular lightning off the coast this
evening. Also, the MRF model shows a high RH forecast for tomorrow at the
850Mb level, so we may indeed see some more thunderstorm activity.
And who knows what this could mean!!!!
- Paul G.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:42:16 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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9 am
Thanks Don,
It is sleeting lightly here at the moment in Blackheath. Shards of ice
and some small flakes. Quite decent cloud cover.
Temp is around 1 with wetbulb nudging zero. Moderate westerly winds.
Still quite dry though.
My partner and I are planning on checking out Oberon this morning on our
way to Lithgow - we'll take the camera.
Don White wrote:
>
> Lindsay and the "snow watchers"
> a weak surface low appears to have developed inland from Bega and moving
> NNE. It may be a reflection of upper cold pool. the BOM 1800 (3 am)
> chart draws a front from this out over central west but from 3 am
> surface data it is difficult to see why they have. In any case, either
> that "front" or the movement NE of the possible low should see something
> happening in the Sydney region by mid afternoon at the latest. However,
> air could be very dry not far west of coast line. small hail more likely
> don White
>
> Lindsay wrote:
> >
> > 7am Saturday
> >
> > Temp 1.5
> >
> > Wet bulb = 0
> >
> > Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
> > but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
> >
> > Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
> > moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
> >
> > Lindsay P.
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Also, MRF was showing a TTI forecast of 60 through some central parts of NSW
owing to the degree of instability...
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>Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:32:10 PDT
>
>This is what I tried to send last night:
>Hi Everyone,
>It certainly looks like an interesting situation with this cold air
>approaching. One of the things I noticed was that the upper levels have
>become very unstable in advance with 500temps at Wagga this morning nearly
>-30c, while at Sydney Airport this afternoon they were nearing -25c! Total
>Totals for Williamtown this morning was 52 which gives some indication of
>the instability. I also observed spetacular lightning off the coast this
>evening. Also, the MRF model shows a high RH forecast for tomorrow at the
>850Mb level, so we may indeed see some more thunderstorm activity.
>And who knows what this could mean!!!!
>- Paul G.
>
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:23:54 +1000
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Not much happening in Taralga, still waiting for the damn SW winds to turn
up! The best we've had is a few sleet showers. Min over night was 1C, when I
did the obs at 9 it was 3C with WB at 2C, westerly winds at about 12 knots
and gusty.
Seems a little too warm and a little too dry here at the moment as is usual
with westerlys. I expect Crookwell and the like would have had a bit more
action over night.
Andrew.
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From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Date: Saturday, 14 August 1999 9:03
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chilly in Blackheath
>9 am
>
>Thanks Don,
>
>It is sleeting lightly here at the moment in Blackheath. Shards of ice
>and some small flakes. Quite decent cloud cover.
>
>Temp is around 1 with wetbulb nudging zero. Moderate westerly winds.
>Still quite dry though.
>
>
>My partner and I are planning on checking out Oberon this morning on our
>way to Lithgow - we'll take the camera.
>
>
>Don White wrote:
>>
>> Lindsay and the "snow watchers"
>> a weak surface low appears to have developed inland from Bega and moving
>> NNE. It may be a reflection of upper cold pool. the BOM 1800 (3 am)
>> chart draws a front from this out over central west but from 3 am
>> surface data it is difficult to see why they have. In any case, either
>> that "front" or the movement NE of the possible low should see something
>> happening in the Sydney region by mid afternoon at the latest. However,
>> air could be very dry not far west of coast line. small hail more likely
>> don White
>>
>> Lindsay wrote:
>> >
>> > 7am Saturday
>> >
>> > Temp 1.5
>> >
>> > Wet bulb = 0
>> >
>> > Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
>> > but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
>> >
>> > Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
>> > moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
>> >
>> > Lindsay P.
>> >
>> >
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:09:53 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
Looks as though the East Pacific is where the action is.
http://www.intellicast.com/Sail/World/UnitedStates/World/
May take 2min to download
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:12:56 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
Does anyone know a URL for a World Synoptic Analysis Map?
Chas
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:18:55 -0700
From: Ross Wilson [ross at cww.octec.org.au]
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Light overnight snowfalls in and around Orange, estimated at only
10-15mm, just light groundcover really. Rapidly melting in exposed
areas too. There has been the odd snowshower during the morning up
here, in the Towac Valley, about 10 km SE of Orange.
Conditions need to become more favourable for substantial snow though,
and not much sign of that at the moment.
>From past experience, the first dump of snow is generally the heaviest.
Current obs: Wind 260/10-15 Drybulb +2 Dewpoint +1 Overnight low
-1 Barom 1012 rising.
Avfax info for Area 21 :
AMEND AREA FORECAST 132300 TO 141100 AREA 21
AMD OVERVIEW:
SURFACE LOW EXPECTED NEAR MORUYA AT 23Z MOVING EAST. UPPER TROUGH
DEVELOPING NEAR MERIMBULA/WAGGA BY 05Z, MOVING NORTH TO CLEAR
AREA BY
11Z. SCATTERED SHOWERS, MOSTLY W SLOPES/RANGES, FALLING AS SNOW
ON
THE RANGES. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL DEVELOPING AFTER
02Z.
LOW CLOUD WITH SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS.
SEV TURB BLW 10000 SEE SIGMET .
For Orange:
TAF TAF AMD YORG 132246Z 2308 34015G25KT 9999 LIGHT SHOWERS OF RAIN
BKN005 SCT020 FM23 MOD/SEV TURB BLW 5000FT T 02 04 06 08 Q 1012
1012
1012 1015
METAR METAR YORG 2300Z 27012KT 9999 LIGHT SNOW BKN010 02/01 Q1012 RMK
RF00.0/005.6
Ross Wilson
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather on Ranges
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:09:40 +1000
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Hi all,
I took a drive out to Roslyn this morning. It's a small town high just west
of the divide on the Southern Tablelands. The most I saw was a few snow
showers and a lot of sleet, definately no settled snow.
In Taralga now it's 5 and light showers are falling. Occasional sleet. The
wind is STILL a WNWer. I'm desperately hoping we're gonna see at least a few
hours of SWers here today to see what they will bring!
What's happening at Oberon Lindsay?
Andrew.
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Small Hail in the Lower Blue Mtns
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:56:30 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
Just had the tiniest bit of hail here in Blaxland a few minutes ago. Only
was the size of rice and lasted for no more than a minute. I expect more
soon as it is looking very icy further up the ranges to the west.
Matthew Piper
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:19:58 -0700
From: Patrick Tobin [pdtobin at mail.act.apana.org.au]
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Hi all,
Just over 6 degrees at 12 Noon, Saturday in Canberra. We have had showers
with the occasional bit of sleet over the last 2 hours -easing up a bit now
which has allowed the temp to increase from the 3 - 5 that it was
oscillating around for much of the morning.
I was at Mt Ainslie (812m alt overlooking the City Centre) around 11.00am
where the sleet alternated with more consistent but very wet snow - although
not settling. Brindabellas ranges were well and truly obscured by cloud but
should be quite spectacular tomorrow.
8/8 cloud cover of Cu, Cb and Sc. Most of the Cb and even the dreaded Sc
is glaciated. Very light winds are tending around from S to SSE/SE.
Radar suggests the surface low is somewhere just to the SW of Jervis Bay.
The news has just reported wide-spread snow falls across SE NSW with
Perisher reporting 40cm overnight.
Patrick
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Matt Smith has gone Chasing
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:31:04 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
Matt Smith has just told me on IRC to say that he has gone chasing and is
contactable on 0407 069693 for any updates.
Matthew Piper
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:20:28 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Sat. 12:40pm
Andrew,
Haven't got to Oberon yet. Trying to fit in time this arvo.
It's warm here in Blackheatb, around 3.5 at !2:40pm with decent cover
but it is still quite dry.
Ice showers, then snow mixed with rain at Lithgow at 11:30. Some very
large flakes - very wet. No settling.
Oberon looks to covered in low cloud, might be around 1 out there. I'll
try and get there this arvo.
Lindsay P.
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Lindsay - I reckon we need to put our heads together. McDonald wrote earlier that hail was pissing down. Hmmm I know that rain pisses down,- but hail. Now there has to be a better word. Spattering? clattering? c'mon friend - help me. Maybe we need to invent a new word - somehow pissing is just not right.
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> 7am Saturday
I didn'r get out of bed until 10am:-)
>
> Temp 1.5
Not that cold - no wind - but a leaden sky.
>
> Wet bulb = 0
>
> Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
> but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
We just had rain - lots of it. Huddled over the heater and watched the footy.
>
> Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
> moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
Well, Andrew?
>
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> Lindsay - I reckon we need to put our heads together. McDonald wrote
earlier that hail was pissing down. Hmmm I know that rain pisses down,-
but hail. Now there has to be a better word. Spattering? clattering? c'mon
friend - help me. Maybe we need to invent a new word - somehow pissing is
just not right.
Hammering down. (if it's heavy hail)
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Hi everyone
Still light snowfalls in the Towac Valley, below Mt Canobolas, near
Orange. But not settling much at all. Roads are clear, and the usual
local traffic. Might be more substantial snow on Canobolas, as it is
about 1500 ft higher than the valley here.
I drove into Orange this morning, and there was a little snow there, but
the rain mostly washed it away.
Can't see the top of the mountain (Canobolas) as the cloud base is down
to about 3500 ft.
Quite cold, about +3C, and probably won't go much higher today.
Winds were strong and gusty from W/SW earlier, but now have moderated to
15/20 knots.
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Hey Chas/Helen, Everyone..
Laurier Williams has some links to global model data on his site..
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/forecast_models_us.html
I'm not sure if this next URL is in that list though..
http://lumahai.soest.hawaii.edu/gifs/models/GLOBAL/
On another note.. we actually had some weak showes and local storms in
SE QLD last night.. I was greeted to a nice close Cg as i walked out the
back door at 7:30pm, cracking thunder about 6 seconds later.. but that
was about all that i saw myself.. although the tracker was picking up a
few strokes here and there, and Anthony reported heavy rain at one
stage.. better than nothing i guess..
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> Does anyone know a URL for a World Synoptic Analysis Map?
>
> Chas
> Strahan Tasmania
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Check out the surface chart for South America at
http://www.meteochile.cl/cartasup.htm
The satellite photo looks more severe than the southern depression and
associated front but the 1040 high at latitude 40-45 with a cut off
trough
to its north is unusual, I would say...
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> Looks as though the East Pacific is where the action is.
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> http://www.intellicast.com/Sail/World/UnitedStates/World/
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I wish I had a camera..Cb clouds all over the place with associated
showers. No thunder yet here as yet. Sunny patches and 11
degrees..pretty cold for Sydney for this time of the day. The radar
suggests the low is east of Ulladulla but I don't think we'll get much
rain even if it moves NNE as expected..
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Don and everyone
Nothing at Blackheath more than a few very light showers of sleet
until a bit before 15.00. The wind and lower cloud movement has swung
SW during the afternoon, with some more purposeful looking large Cu
drifting off the high country around Oberon -- we've had several
showers of 2 to 5mm size sago snow, though the temp at 15.00 was still
4.2 in my screen (3.5 at Mt Boyce). Hourly satpic animation shows a
good cloudmass stretching from the southern Northern Tablelands down
to the Victorian coast with movement from the south over southern NSW,
so there may be something left in this system yet. The midday analysis
from the Bureau shows another frontal complex west of Tas, though it's
hard to justify it from the satpix which just show a thin line of low
cloud. Latest ACARS data from Sydney shows freezing level at 14.30
around 4,500 feet and wind between 240 and 260 up to 15,000 feet with
nothing above 15 knots!
The ABC news item this morning about widespread snow was a bit
misleading. Widely and thinly spread would a better description.
Oberon observer reported 3cm snow on ground this morning, and was
reporting steady a max of 2 degrees and snow during the day (though
only 2mm in the gauge 9 to 3), which tallies with the view across to
Oberon of gloomy SCu/FCu/Large Cu. 3pm reports of snow showers from
Woolbrook (near Walcha on the Northern Tablelands), and Orange
(Lithgow didn't report). In Victoria, Omeo reported some light snow
before 9am, nothing else of note. Good falls in the resorts in NSW,
though, with 21mm in the precip gauge at Thredbo Village and 40 at
Perisher -- so, say, ~ foot of new snow.
There may be some excitement left in the southerly surge (which the
models predicted quite nicely), but I don't think this system has the
oomph to do much -- temperatures are marginal for snow at most
stations around the 1000m mark, and the air is dry (which the models
predicted quite nicely!)
Laurier
On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:17:54 +1000, Don White
wrote:
>Lindsay and the "snow watchers"
>a weak surface low appears to have developed inland from Bega and moving
>NNE. It may be a reflection of upper cold pool. the BOM 1800 (3 am)
>chart draws a front from this out over central west but from 3 am
>surface data it is difficult to see why they have. In any case, either
>that "front" or the movement NE of the possible low should see something
>happening in the Sydney region by mid afternoon at the latest. However,
>air could be very dry not far west of coast line. small hail more likely
>don White
>
>Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> 7am Saturday
>>
>> Temp 1.5
>>
>> Wet bulb = 0
>>
>> Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
>> but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
>>
>> Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
>> moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
>>
>> Lindsay P.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow in Taralga!
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Hi all,
With the Swlys came the snow. I've no doubt it's bucketing everywhere else
but here it's 1C and snowing stdeadily, will probably begin settling if it
keeps going for long enough.
Andrew.
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I had about 12C at the same time, the Cb as you have noticed is much better
developed to the SE.
Still needs to drop to 10C here for possible snow at Robertson, and that is
quite likely. 10C here usually = 1-2C at Robertson.
Michael
> I wish I had a camera..Cb clouds all over the place with associated
> showers. No thunder yet here as yet. Sunny patches and 11
> degrees..pretty cold for Sydney for this time of the day. The radar
> suggests the low is east of Ulladulla but I don't think we'll get much
> rain even if it moves NNE as expected..
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> Check out the surface chart for South America at
> http://www.meteochile.cl/cartasup.htm
> The satellite photo looks more severe than the southern depression and
> associated front but the 1040 high at latitude 40-45 with a cut off
> trough
> to its north is unusual, I would say...
It looks like there's a major polar blast over southeastern South America.
I checked out the Yahoo forecasts for that area, and snow has been forecast
for Curitiba today. From what I know, Curitiba is a city in southeastern
Brazil at an altitude of about 1000 metres. That corner of Brazil is the
only part of the country outside the tropics - I guess the climate there
would be similar to southeast Queensland. (BTW I see the BOM has forecast a
little sleet for the QLD southeast highlands)
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5:41 pm
Just got back from a snow chase south of Oberon.
Around 2pm, there were heavy snow showers on the road leading into
Shooters Hill - 1250 metres, (about 5k's from the sign posted "Shooters
Hill" area - where the showers had already passed through). An inch or
two of snow on the ground in amongst the pine trees in this area and
about the same in the paddocks. (I have the photos) The snow continued
whilst I was parked there for say, 15 minutes. It was pea size, wet and
heavy.
I then drove through to Edith (1080 metres) and it changed from sleet to
heavy snow showers at the Jenolan Caves/Kanagra Walls turn off
(about 1200 metres?) with snow whiting the ground there. I stayed there
for 30 minutes as the heavy snow showers continued for that time. I have
photos of me covered in snow (I stayed out in the snow for ten minutes -
it wasn't cold) and shots of the car and the sign posts, trees etc.
I'd say it was around 0 to 1 degrees at this time, virtually no wind and
a really enjoyable experience. Absolutely great fun!
Lindsay P.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:34:18 -0700
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Laurier, Re Lithgow not reporting...
Lithgow had sleet falling and then a brief, very wet snow shower at
about 12pm, Saturday, when we were there.
Lindsay
Laurier Williams wrote:
>
> Don and everyone
>
> Nothing at Blackheath more than a few very light showers of sleet
> until a bit before 15.00. The wind and lower cloud movement has swung
> SW during the afternoon, with some more purposeful looking large Cu
> drifting off the high country around Oberon -- we've had several
> showers of 2 to 5mm size sago snow, though the temp at 15.00 was still
> 4.2 in my screen (3.5 at Mt Boyce). Hourly satpic animation shows a
> good cloudmass stretching from the southern Northern Tablelands down
> to the Victorian coast with movement from the south over southern NSW,
> so there may be something left in this system yet. The midday analysis
> from the Bureau shows another frontal complex west of Tas, though it's
> hard to justify it from the satpix which just show a thin line of low
> cloud. Latest ACARS data from Sydney shows freezing level at 14.30
> around 4,500 feet and wind between 240 and 260 up to 15,000 feet with
> nothing above 15 knots!
>
> The ABC news item this morning about widespread snow was a bit
> misleading. Widely and thinly spread would a better description.
> Oberon observer reported 3cm snow on ground this morning, and was
> reporting steady a max of 2 degrees and snow during the day (though
> only 2mm in the gauge 9 to 3), which tallies with the view across to
> Oberon of gloomy SCu/FCu/Large Cu. 3pm reports of snow showers from
> Woolbrook (near Walcha on the Northern Tablelands), and Orange
> (Lithgow didn't report). In Victoria, Omeo reported some light snow
> before 9am, nothing else of note. Good falls in the resorts in NSW,
> though, with 21mm in the precip gauge at Thredbo Village and 40 at
> Perisher -- so, say, ~ foot of new snow.
>
> There may be some excitement left in the southerly surge (which the
> models predicted quite nicely), but I don't think this system has the
> oomph to do much -- temperatures are marginal for snow at most
> stations around the 1000m mark, and the air is dry (which the models
> predicted quite nicely!)
>
> Laurier
>
> On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 08:17:54 +1000, Don White
> wrote:
>
> >Lindsay and the "snow watchers"
> >a weak surface low appears to have developed inland from Bega and moving
> >NNE. It may be a reflection of upper cold pool. the BOM 1800 (3 am)
> >chart draws a front from this out over central west but from 3 am
> >surface data it is difficult to see why they have. In any case, either
> >that "front" or the movement NE of the possible low should see something
> >happening in the Sydney region by mid afternoon at the latest. However,
> >air could be very dry not far west of coast line. small hail more likely
> >don White
> >
> >Lindsay wrote:
> >>
> >> 7am Saturday
> >>
> >> Temp 1.5
> >>
> >> Wet bulb = 0
> >>
> >> Okay cloud about but it does feel dry. WE had a few flakes last night,
> >> but few is the operative word. No real snow about just yet.
> >>
> >> Anyone know when the guts of this next front is due in and if any more
> >> moisture around? Andrew, how's Taralga?
> >>
> >> Lindsay P.
> >>
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Hi all.
Im starting not to like these cold air situations. Good for structure
photos but thats about it. I took plenty of Anvil photos, and some of
towering cumulus, and hail shafts. I did not hear any thunder, although i
saw 1 CG at around 4.30 off the coast near Manly somewhere. Lots of
development all at once around midday, and from then on it was
Updraught/Anvil/Hail shafts & rain/ dead cell. No good to chase at all. I
counted 9 seperate anvils at one stage, with another 3 possible anvils
hidden,as almost every towering cumulus anvilled out. Most of these cells
were on the ranges or along the coast/illawarra escarpment. Sunset was very
interesting, with 4-5 large bulges which looked like mamatus, but much
larger, lite up yellow with the sunlight, as soon as i pressed the shutter
it started to rain lightly. Certainly an interesting day. Cold now, 10
degrees and i dont know how Victorians put up with these temps days on end!.
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 18:21:40 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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I wish I could get hold of a decent weather map for that part of the
world ie Argentina north to Central America..the map that I found from a
previously-given URL in this thread (and Rio and Buenos Aires forecasts
of 96 and 49 degrees F respectively) would confirm your observations,
Ben (a southern trough a bit like what's off Sydney at present but much
more extensive).
Ben Tichborne wrote:
>
> > Check out the surface chart for South America at
> > http://www.meteochile.cl/cartasup.htm
> > The satellite photo looks more severe than the southern depression and
> > associated front but the 1040 high at latitude 40-45 with a cut off
> > trough
> > to its north is unusual, I would say...
>
> It looks like there's a major polar blast over southeastern South America.
> I checked out the Yahoo forecasts for that area, and snow has been forecast
> for Curitiba today. From what I know, Curitiba is a city in southeastern
> Brazil at an altitude of about 1000 metres. That corner of Brazil is the
> only part of the country outside the tropics - I guess the climate there
> would be similar to southeast Queensland. (BTW I see the BOM has forecast a
> little sleet for the QLD southeast highlands)
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Small cell near botany (Sydney) letting off the odd strike now and then,
its dying though, but Ive heard 3 claps of thunder where I am.
Matt Smith
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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 17:47:45 -0700
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Light snow/sleet here in Blackheath at 6:10pm Saturday
Lindsay
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Surprise!! Another Fizzer!
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 22:33:59 +1000
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Hi all,
The snow I reported earlier has long cleared off. It lasted for about 1/2 an
hour and settled only on the hills out of town where I went to have a look
after the visability came back (900-1000m alt). It's now clear and 0.7C.
It's been up to 3C between times.
I think I can now safely say that from my point of view this has been (isn't
it monotinous) yet another fizzer! Sure, there's been some snow around (how
is it everywhere else??) but all week the forecasts were consistently
predicting a major event and it has turned out to be one that in any other
winter we would not think twice about.
Ofcourse I'll be very happy to be wrong if later, by some miracle I am
proven so!
Andrew.
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