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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] Photos of Saturdays storms. 002 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Chinese temps 003 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Descriptions of hail... 004 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Photos of Saturdays storms. 005 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Chinese temps 006 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Rough Perth Weather 007 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] (no subject) 008 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Perth warm overnight for August 009 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] perth this morning 010 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Photos of Saturdays storms. 011 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Photos of Saturdays storms. 012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Chinese temps 013 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Chinese temps 014 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Photos of Saturdays storms. 015 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Photos of Saturdays storms. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:08:01 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone. I have scanned some of the better photos and put them on my web page of the small storms in Sydney on Saturday the 14th of August. http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm click on "1999", then "August 14" for the photos and a small report. Most of the photos were either overexposed or underexposed, (a close towering cumulus at midday turned out black/grey in the photo:(, I have no idea why, it could either be the film,the camera,me,or the developer. I had it on manual focus with auto for all other settings. My camera is a Pentax MZ-50, and if anyone can help id appreciate it. Enjoy Matt Smith ASWA Committee Member PS-> Michael Thompson , I emailed that TV station in SLC yesterday about getting a copy of the video, im waiting for a reply. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 002 X-Originating-Ip: [210.8.232.2] From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Chinese temps Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:49:20 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com An interesting piece on Radio National yesterday morning.. the Chinese Weather Bureau has now adopted a policy of "truth in reporting" and they will now pass on to the public accurate data on temperature readings. Because of a lack of air-conditioning, Chinese industry generally has a policy of allowing workers to go home if the temperature exceeds 40C. The local bureau is always under a lot of pressure to keep the wheels of industry running and to "ensure" that the temperature doesn't get much above 32. Apparently this summer in Beijing has been so hot that the charade was not able to be continued - hence the change in policy. I am not sure whether the recorded temps are massaged only for internal consumption. If not then a Chinese change of policy would be a major contributor to observed global warming (as opposed to being a - possible - mere victim). I wonder what they have done in winter?? Perhaps a new ice-age could be on the way. I am sure that Blair would find the challenges of ensuring high integrity data in places like China would make anything in Australia seem pretty straightforward in comparison. Patrick PS Excellent snow at Perisher Valley at the weekend - patches of snow on the ground from around 1100m. Depths increased rapidly upwards of 1200m. Hopefully any inland depressions that form over the weekend will drag in cold air from the SSE over SE Aust and not too much warm, moist air from the NE. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 003 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: Descriptions of hail... Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:29:39 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com umm bonking? >snip Good thought :-) Um, belting, pelting, pounding, smashing, crashing, bashing, thrashing, ripping, tearing, thumping, banging, "diveting down" - Thinking of impact words here etc. And maybe things like, The hail here is: cranking, trenching, carving, and...shredding! :-) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 004 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:55:08 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Matt, I must be dumb or something, darned if I could find a 1999 which I could click on. John. >snip Hi Everyone. I have scanned some of the better photos and put them on my web page of the small storms in Sydney on Saturday the 14th of August. http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm click on "1999", then "August 14" for the photos and a small report. Most of the photos were either overexposed or underexposed, (a close towering cumulus at midday turned out black/grey in the photo:(, I have no idea why, it could either be the film,the camera,me,or the developer. I had it on manual focus with auto for all other settings. My camera is a Pentax MZ-50, and if anyone can help id appreciate it. Enjoy Matt Smith ASWA Committee Member +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 005 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:02:16 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > An interesting piece on Radio National yesterday morning.. the Chinese > Weather Bureau has now adopted a policy of "truth in reporting" and they > will now pass on to the public accurate data on temperature readings. > > Because of a lack of air-conditioning, Chinese industry generally has a > policy of allowing workers to go home if the temperature exceeds 40C. > > The local bureau is always under a lot of pressure to keep the wheels of > industry running and to "ensure" that the temperature doesn't get much above > 32. > > Apparently this summer in Beijing has been so hot that the charade was not > able to be continued - hence the change in policy. > > I am not sure whether the recorded temps are massaged only for internal > consumption. If not then > a Chinese change of policy would be a major contributor to observed global > warming (as opposed to being a - possible - mere victim). I've heard of similar things happening (only this time with low winter temperatures) in Romania during the Ceausescu era - but again don't know whether this was merely for public consumption or found its way into the official observations. Closer to home, it is widely alleged that the various north Queensland candidates for the wettest town in Australia have been known to fiddle their readings from time to time. > I wonder what they have done in winter?? Perhaps a new ice-age could be on > the way. Actually, the last two winters in Beijing (especially the last one) have been exceptionally mild. > I am sure that Blair would find the challenges of ensuring high integrity > data in places like China would make anything in Australia seem pretty > straightforward in comparison. A challenge, certainly - although anything seriously wrong on a nationwide basis ought to show up in comparisons with neighbouring countries (especially Mongolia, which, surprisingly, has lots of internationally reported data). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 006 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:51:27 +0800 From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Rough Perth Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, IT sure is winter here today. A cold front passing through now is stirring things up a bit but the one coming through later on today is really moving along and will blows us around when it comes through. This just through from the bom. PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE WIND WARNING Issued at 9:40 am WST on Tuesday, 17 August 1999 For the Southwest District, including Bunbury and Busselton for late this afternoon, and for the Lower West District including the Perth metropolitan area and Mandurah for this evening. A cold front has crossed the west coast this morning and another strong front is expected to cross the SW Capes later this afternoon and reach the Perth metropolitan area this evening. Damaging wind gusts up to 120 km/h can be expected with the passage of the second front. Ah Winter :) Regards -- Michael Fewings Strike One Lightning Photos http://strikeone.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 007 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:16:33 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair It has been suspected that NSW snow resorts have been guilty of the same practice with the goal of being the lowest in the state on the evening news. Mark -- _____________________________________________________ Mark Hardy. The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060 Ph (02) 9955 7704. Fax (02) 9955 1536. Mobile 0414 642 739 email: mhardy at theweather.com.au _____________________________________________________ ---------- >From: Blair Trewin>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:02 AM > >> >> An interesting piece on Radio National yesterday morning.. the Chinese >> Weather Bureau has now adopted a policy of "truth in reporting" and they >> will now pass on to the public accurate data on temperature readings. >> >> Because of a lack of air-conditioning, Chinese industry generally has a >> policy of allowing workers to go home if the temperature exceeds 40C. >> >> The local bureau is always under a lot of pressure to keep the wheels of >> industry running and to "ensure" that the temperature doesn't get much above >> 32. >> >> Apparently this summer in Beijing has been so hot that the charade was not >> able to be continued - hence the change in policy. >> >> I am not sure whether the recorded temps are massaged only for internal >> consumption. If not then >> a Chinese change of policy would be a major contributor to observed global >> warming (as opposed to being a - possible - mere victim). > > I've heard of similar things happening (only this time with low winter > temperatures) in Romania during the Ceausescu era - but again don't know > whether this was merely for public consumption or found its way into > the official observations. > > Closer to home, it is widely alleged that the various north > Queensland candidates for the wettest town in Australia have been > known to fiddle their readings from time to time. > >> I wonder what they have done in winter?? Perhaps a new ice-age could be on >> the way. > > Actually, the last two winters in Beijing (especially the last one) > have been exceptionally mild. > >> I am sure that Blair would find the challenges of ensuring high integrity >> data in places like China would make anything in Australia seem pretty >> straightforward in comparison. > > A challenge, certainly - although anything seriously wrong on a > nationwide basis ought to show up in comparisons with neighbouring > countries (especially Mongolia, which, surprisingly, has lots of > internationally reported data). > > Blair Trewin > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 008 X-Sender: jacob at jacob at iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:37:20 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: Perth warm overnight for August Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting to note Perth's overnight minimum temperatures, the city temperature only got down to 16.1C at 6:19am this morning, the August record for the city site, even though its not directly comparable to the new site is 16.6C. The Perth Airport 24 hour min temp in rounded numbers was 16C, the August record for the Perth Airport site is 16.8C. So both records getting pretty close. Other warm 24 hour minimums came from Lancelin and Jurien Bay, both with 17C. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 009 X-Sender: bayns at nornet.nor.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 15:57:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: perth this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hey all, i'm guessing a few ppl from perth may have missed this on radar this morning cos there was noone online that i could see anyway, so i saved the local loop, it is here http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/IDR123lp.gif +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 010 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:59:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Matt / John I too had the same problem, there are two tiny red squares which when the mouse was passed over told me 1998 and 1999. Michael > Hi Matt, > > I must be dumb or something, darned if I could find a 1999 which I could click on. > > John. > > >snip > Hi Everyone. > > I have scanned some of the better photos and put them on my web page of the > small storms in Sydney on Saturday the 14th of August. > > http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm click on "1999", then "August 14" for the > photos and a small report. > > Most of the photos were either overexposed or underexposed, (a close > towering cumulus at midday turned out black/grey in the photo:(, I have no > idea why, it could either be the film,the camera,me,or the developer. I had > it on manual focus with auto for all other settings. My camera is a Pentax > MZ-50, and if anyone can help id appreciate it. > Enjoy > Matt Smith > ASWA Committee Member > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 011 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:57:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Pretty spectacular pics regardless, the hail shafts are quite evident in your Sydney shots, the clouds were down here in the Illawarra did not have well developed features. The MZ-50 is a camera that I have considered purchasing and I hold it high regard. I have learnt two things about cloud photos 1) get as much of the foreground out the picture as possible. With a pic spilt with the bottom half dark foreground vs light sky the light meter tends to overcompensate for the foreground and over expose the picture in regard to clouds. Not sure on the MZ50 metering system, if its centre weighted the answer is to simply make sure that the viewfinder middle is your primary target. If some other fancy metering ( as is often the case these days ) see if there is a exposure lock and lock it on a cloud filled pic. 2) number two is a possible cause or often adds to number one, and that is mini lab processing is crap. They cannot handle very well pics with light / dark extremes. Somebody correct me if I am talking rubbish, but I think the mini lab scan your whole roll of film first, then apply an average exposure, this is a great recipe for stuffing your nightime lightning pics, especially if you have sunny scenic days at the beach pics on the same roll. Regards Michael > I have scanned some of the better photos and put them on my web page of the > small storms in Sydney on Saturday the 14th of August. > > http://www.braenet.com.au/~disarm click on "1999", then "August 14" for the > photos and a small report. > > Most of the photos were either overexposed or underexposed, (a close > towering cumulus at midday turned out black/grey in the photo:(, I have no > idea why, it could either be the film,the camera,me,or the developer. I had > it on manual focus with auto for all other settings. My camera is a Pentax > MZ-50, and if anyone can help id appreciate it. > Enjoy > Matt Smith > ASWA Committee Member > > PS-> Michael Thompson , I emailed that TV station in SLC yesterday about > getting a copy of the video, im waiting for a reply. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 012 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:01:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ...and if you watch channel 9 Perisher Blue always seems to be rated good - excellent, even earlier this season when it was a joke. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Hardy [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Tuesday, 17 August 1999 12:16 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps > Blair > > It has been suspected that NSW snow resorts have been guilty of the same > practice with the goal of being the lowest in the state on the evening news. > > Mark > -- > _____________________________________________________ > Mark Hardy. > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060 > Ph (02) 9955 7704. Fax (02) 9955 1536. > Mobile 0414 642 739 > email: mhardy at theweather.com.au > _____________________________________________________ > > > ---------- > >From: Blair Trewin > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps > >Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:02 AM > > > > >> > >> An interesting piece on Radio National yesterday morning.. the Chinese > >> Weather Bureau has now adopted a policy of "truth in reporting" and they > >> will now pass on to the public accurate data on temperature readings. > >> > >> Because of a lack of air-conditioning, Chinese industry generally has a > >> policy of allowing workers to go home if the temperature exceeds 40C. > >> > >> The local bureau is always under a lot of pressure to keep the wheels of > >> industry running and to "ensure" that the temperature doesn't get much above > >> 32. > >> > >> Apparently this summer in Beijing has been so hot that the charade was not > >> able to be continued - hence the change in policy. > >> > >> I am not sure whether the recorded temps are massaged only for internal > >> consumption. If not then > >> a Chinese change of policy would be a major contributor to observed global > >> warming (as opposed to being a - possible - mere victim). > > > > I've heard of similar things happening (only this time with low winter > > temperatures) in Romania during the Ceausescu era - but again don't know > > whether this was merely for public consumption or found its way into > > the official observations. > > > > Closer to home, it is widely alleged that the various north > > Queensland candidates for the wettest town in Australia have been > > known to fiddle their readings from time to time. > > > >> I wonder what they have done in winter?? Perhaps a new ice-age could be on > >> the way. > > > > Actually, the last two winters in Beijing (especially the last one) > > have been exceptionally mild. > > > >> I am sure that Blair would find the challenges of ensuring high integrity > >> data in places like China would make anything in Australia seem pretty > >> straightforward in comparison. > > > > A challenge, certainly - although anything seriously wrong on a > > nationwide basis ought to show up in comparisons with neighbouring > > countries (especially Mongolia, which, surprisingly, has lots of > > internationally reported data). > > > > Blair Trewin > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 013 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chinese temps To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:21:42 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > ...and if you watch channel 9 Perisher Blue always seems to be rated good - > excellent, even earlier this season when it was a joke. > > Michael I seem to recall 'Media Watch' had something to say about this a few weeks back. (For those who are unaware, both Perisher Blue and Channel 9 are owned by Kerry Packer) Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 014 X-Sender: jra at upnaway.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:09:20 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree with Michael totally, after many getting many films back with dissapointing exposures i spoke to a lab technician who said exactley what Michael T said, they do an average exposure. So I started taking my films to special lab (Gerry Gibbs Camera House) that expose each neg on its own. The only downside is a few more bucks and you have to wait longer for em. I dont do it all the time but i do when it counts and you will notice the difference. My only other tip is, (some will disagree) but buy Fuji film, ive done my own tests and in my opinion it stands up way better than other brands. If you take care of all the little pieces your will find an overall improvement for sure. Ira Fehlberg PS: BTW the pics look great anyway!!!! At 17:57 17/08/99 +1000, you wrote: >Pretty spectacular pics regardless, the hail shafts are quite evident in >your Sydney shots, the clouds were down here in the Illawarra did not have >well developed features. > >The MZ-50 is a camera that I have considered purchasing and I hold it high >regard. I have learnt two things about cloud photos 1) get as much of the >foreground out the picture as possible. With a pic spilt with the bottom >half dark foreground vs light sky the light meter tends to overcompensate >for the foreground and over expose the picture in regard to clouds. Not sure >on the MZ50 metering system, if its centre weighted the answer is to simply >make sure that the viewfinder middle is your primary target. If some other >fancy metering ( as is often the case these days ) see if there is a >exposure lock and lock it on a cloud filled pic. 2) number two is a possible >cause or often adds to number one, and that is mini lab processing is crap. >They cannot handle very well pics with light / dark extremes. Somebody >correct me if I am talking rubbish, but I think the mini lab scan your whole >roll of film first, then apply an average exposure, this is a great recipe >for stuffing your nightime lightning pics, especially if you have sunny >scenic days at the beach pics on the same roll. > >Regards >Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 015 From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:32:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Whenever I take a roll of film, which I know to contain some night/lightning shots (or extremes of exposure between frames), into a one-hour mini-lab, I simply tell them this at the start, and they're happy to take extra care and develop each shot seperately without charging extra, just to keep my business. I am a regular customer, so I guess my business is particularly valuable, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter where I get my photos developed how quickly the job is done, I expect each frame to be developed correctly. The fact that they can 'average' the exposure on most people's films is not an excuse to supply me with an inferior product. Every store I've requested extra care from have done so happily. So, Ira, I see no need for you to take your films to a more expensive lab, unless you want some serious quality work. Cheers! Marty. Brisbane, Australia martyp at dynamite.com.au Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning ICQ: 11790565 -----Original Message----- From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Date: Tuesday, 17 August 1999 19:45 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos of Saturdays storms. > I agree with Michael totally, after many getting many films back with >dissapointing exposures i spoke to a lab technician who said exactley what >Michael T said, they do an average exposure. So I started taking my films >to special lab (Gerry Gibbs Camera House) that expose each neg on its own. >The only downside is a few more bucks and you have to wait longer for em. I >dont do it all the time but i do when it counts and you will notice the >difference. My only other tip is, (some will disagree) but buy Fuji film, >ive done my own tests and in my opinion it stands up way better than other >brands. If you take care of all the little pieces your will find an overall >improvement for sure. > > Ira Fehlberg > >PS: BTW the pics look great anyway!!!! > >At 17:57 17/08/99 +1000, you wrote: >>Pretty spectacular pics regardless, the hail shafts are quite evident in >>your Sydney shots, the clouds were down here in the Illawarra did not have >>well developed features. >> >>The MZ-50 is a camera that I have considered purchasing and I hold it high >>regard. I have learnt two things about cloud photos 1) get as much of the >>foreground out the picture as possible. With a pic spilt with the bottom >>half dark foreground vs light sky the light meter tends to overcompensate >>for the foreground and over expose the picture in regard to clouds. Not sure >>on the MZ50 metering system, if its centre weighted the answer is to simply >>make sure that the viewfinder middle is your primary target. If some other >>fancy metering ( as is often the case these days ) see if there is a >>exposure lock and lock it on a cloud filled pic. 2) number two is a possible >>cause or often adds to number one, and that is mini lab processing is crap. >>They cannot handle very well pics with light / dark extremes. Somebody >>correct me if I am talking rubbish, but I think the mini lab scan your whole >>roll of film first, then apply an average exposure, this is a great recipe >>for stuffing your nightime lightning pics, especially if you have sunny >>scenic days at the beach pics on the same roll. >> >>Regards >>Michael > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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