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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Friday, 10 September 1999

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001 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]             last friday pics
002 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   List 1 year old today
003 Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com]          MRF 9 panel display
004 Soapy [soapyb at tig.com.au]                      Possible excitement for SE Australia mid-next week?
005 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne soundings are back
006 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              SE QLD Storms
007 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           List 1 year old today - My side of the story
008 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  MRF 9 panel display
009 Paul Yole [vortex at wwdg.com]                    Happy Birthday
010 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Public Hanging #1
011 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]                Happy Birthday
012 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]                 Re: WA Advice
013 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Latest Perth Severe thunderstorm advice
014 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Brisbane Storms
015 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]                 Re: Red on Brissie radar!!
016 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   List 1 year old today
017 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   List 1 year old today - My side of the story
018 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   List 1 year old today
019 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]         Re: WA Advice
020 Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com]          MRF 9 panel display
021 Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au]             Happy Birthday
022 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     List 1 year old today
023 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    List 1 year old today
024 Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au]                Perth Wx Tonight
025 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]               List 1 year old today
026 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Another Victorian webcam!!!
027 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              SE QLD Storms 
028 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    SE QLD Storms 
029 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         Storms In SE QLD 

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:00:05 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: last friday pics
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hey all,
got some congestus pics from last friday, turned out pretty good
they are on my site at  
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/weather.html
the last 2 pics

happy birthday to the list!!!! and what a coincidence - 9/9/99. i bet everyone's about sick of that! hahaha

there was a weather special on jjj this morning with that science guy karl kruzelninski! anyone else hear it, they had some meteorligist, clair someone on answering questions. they talked about sprites, lightning, humidity, some other stuff. got to listen to most of it. would have been a perfect opportuinty for one of us to ring in. maybe that should've been moe, but ui'm not goo dwith pubnklic speaking, its as bad as my typing!:(

see yas

steve from gold toast


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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: List 1 year old today
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 00:19:58 +1000
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...yeah, congratulations every one, and thanks!

Andrew.

--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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Date: Thursday, 9 September 1999 19:55
Subject: aus-wx: List 1 year old today


>Hi every1,
>
>"Happy birthday to you,
>Happy birthday to you,
>Happy birthday dear list...
>Happy birthday to you!"
>
>Wow! I think I discovered the list in early October '98 (don't rightly
>remember how...Alzheimer's) ...gee I musta been in on the ground floor!!!
>
>Thanx for being a vibrant, humorous intelligent buncha people...I feel
quite
>priveleged to have been here this long!
>
>...and yep...we are all weird weather heads....Cool!
>
>Kevin from Wycheproof.
>
>P.S. Thanx wiz, Mike, et al!
>
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:42:26 +0100
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From: Norman Lynagh [lynagh at dial.pipex.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: MRF 9 panel display
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In message <37D736C3.68F753EF at telstra.com.au>, Michael Scollay
 writes
>Mark Hardy wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I am looking for a good 9 day+ panel display of the MRF on the web. The best
>> I have found so far is this:
>> http://weather.unisys.com/mrf/mrf_500p_9panel_aus.html
>> 
>> Does anybody know of a better display?
>> Thanks, Mark
>
>Yeh...I download the entire 25 of the 0 to +288hr MRF forecast 
>maps at 12hrs increment from READY with a single script on my
>demand. If you like, I could zip them up and put it on some ftp 
>server for open access. Just spec the parameters needed (max 
>two per map), central lat/long and the radius field of view in 
>degrees.
>
>Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

Michael,

Can you share the script with those of us still climbing the learning
curve :)

Norman (ex-BoM)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:18:34 +1000
From: Soapy [soapyb at tig.com.au]
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The latest GASP model has the low at 962 hPa!

Blair Trewin wrote:

> It's still a fair way out, but days 7 and 8 of GASP are getting
> very interesting indeed - it has a deep low developing south of
> Australia, situated just south of Tasmania on Thursday night with
> a central pressure of 970 hPa. This is accompanied by a burst of
> sub-532 thicknesses covering almost all of Victoria (with 528 touching
> the southern coast) and westerly to southwesterly gales.
>
> I'll believe it when I see it, but it's exciting to speculate. If
> this pattern were to eventuate, we would probably be looking at 24
> hours of blizzard conditions in Victoria above the 600-metre level.
>
> Yesterday's EC was also very windy at its end, but more in the
> northerlies ahead of the low. Today's run should come through in the
> next hour or two. The UK model doesn't go out far enough (yet).
>
> Blair Trewin
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne soundings are back
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:42:34 +1000
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The soundings site for Melbourne has changed from Laverton to Melbourne
airport..........

>I've added Melbourne to my database.  Incidently, the WMO number for
Melbourne is 94866.
>You can use this number if you want to retrieve older soundings.

http://www-das.uwyo.edu/upperair/au.html

Larry Oolman
Department of Atmospheric Science
University of Wyoming

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Many thanks from all of us Melbournites to Larry for his help with this!!!!

Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:48:13 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

8:30am here and overcast, with band of light rain moving in from the
west.. Not exactly what you like to see on the morning of a potential
storm day.. but i'm not worried.. the rain is moving quite swiftly, and
i think it will clear the coast before midday.. hopefully leaving us hot
and steamy for the afternoon.. AVN forecasted this rain, and had it
moving offshore by the afternoon..

It has already cleared up on the darling downs, where the LI's are -3
and less early this morning..

16C with 82% humidity and a DP of 13C at Brisbane Airport..
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David,

I would like to second that!!! It has been a challenge for all but I am 
quite pleased that this list has become successful. And to add to your 
comments, it is from this list that the association ASWA sprung up and I 
think you and Jacob for that opportunity.

Jimmy Deguara

At 00:57 9/09/99 -0400, you wrote:
>A little over a year ago, I was chatting on the undernet channel #weather
>(as I do almost every night) with Jacob. I had an inactive mailing list
>that I was paying for, but out of which no one was getting any benefit. I
>asked Jacob if he thought a list devoted to Australian Weather would be of
>any interest to anyone. He told me he wasn't sure as he'd never seen such
>a thing, and only knew a handful of weather fans there himself. We
>decided to give it a go anyway.
>
>I was expecting, based on my experience with other mailing lists, a low
>volume list with maybe 20 subscriber (only 4 or 5 of whom would actually
>contribute actively), maybe we'd get one or two messages a day on average.
>I was certainly suprised! As Jacob said, we have 126 subscribed addresses
>(note that some people may be subscribed with more than one address)
>another 17 addresses subscribed to the aussie-weather-digest, and we have
>a large number of folks who actively participate.
>
>I have observed with other mailing lists, that they go in a cycle.
>First everyone is very excited about the list and tries to think of ways to
>get new subscribers, then there is a period where there are arguments
>about what on-topic or not. This is followed by long threads on topics
>that none but a few care about, followed by the flame wars, segmentation,
>long tirades about how how much better the list was in the "good ol' days"
>and then finally one group leaves. The remaining subscribers never seem to
>have the same enthusiasm, and the list just sort of stagnates.
>
>I have been pleasantly suprised to see that this really hasn't happened to
>aussie-weather. This is the nicest list I have ever been on. While there
>has been some disagreement, mis-understanding, and hurt feelings (as will
>happen in any group) it's always been manageable. We don't even get
>grumblings about administrative things like no html or binaries. I find
>that the subscribers are respectful of one another, don't really argue
>about what is off topic (because everyone has a pretty good shared
>understanding of what the topic is), and post interesting messages that I
>often post to other weather lists (with the authors permission).
>
>What has made this list so successful? Well, its not me. From the
>beginning, I decided to be just a technical advisor. Jacob (who has done a
>great job!) is a very hands off list manager. Don't mis-understand. Jacob
>and I are kept very busy with the list. We get at least 20 - 40 notices a
>day about messages that didn't go through. We also have to help folks who
>are having trouble subscribing, unsubscribing, or whose mail isn't going
>through, and approve all the mail from folks who send messages from e-mail
>address other that those by which they are subscribed. I'm so glad we
>don't have to maintain the archive too! I feel we have set-up the list,
>and maintained it, but not really lead it. We just sort of let it happen
>and only guided it at arms length.
>
>All of which brings me at last to the conclusion of this overly long
>posting: This list has been successful far beyond my expectations because
>of you the subscribers. You are an extraordinary group of 'netizens and I
>am proud to be a part of this.
>
>The future hold many exciting things for us as the technology improves.
>Jacob and I will be unveiling new things in the days to come. I do think
>we should all have a party on the IRC (Inter Relay Chat) to celebrate the
>first anniversary of the creation of the list, where, in addition to
>discussing weather, we can just socialize.
>
>David K. Hart
>list co-manager #aussie-weather
>Boston MA USA
>
>
>P.S. Just a small correction to Jacob's post I used to work for the World
>(world.std.com, the first commercial Internet Service Provider in the
>world) but left there before I started the list. My connections to "the
>World" have been very useful to the list. When we have had problems with
>majordomo, I have been able to call one of my friends who still work "the
>World" and get matters expedited. I now work for ON Technology, the
>makers of Meeting Maker, he leading real-time, cross-platform enterprise
>calendaring & scheduling solution. I'm happy to say we have many customers
>in Australia, despite the fact that we don't do anything to market there.
>
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:42:57 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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[snip original message by Mark Hardy]

Michael Scollay wrote on Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:25:39 +1000
> >
> >Yeh...I download the entire 25 of the 0 to +288hr MRF forecast
> >maps at 12hrs increment from READY with a single script on my
> >demand. If you like, I could zip them up and put it on some ftp
> >server for open access. Just spec the parameters needed (max
> >two per map), central lat/long and the radius field of view in
> >degrees...
 
Norman Lynagh wrote on Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:42:26 +0100:
>
> Michael,
> 
> Can you share the script with those of us still climbing the learning
> curve :)
> 
> Norman (ex-BoM)

Perhaps...what you need is a UNIX box (I use a Sun SS5 with 
Solaris 2.5.1), Perl 5.00402 at least, access to a standard 
UNIX sh (shell) plus utilities like sed, grep etc., gifsicle
1.12 (for cropping the gifs if you want that) and snoop, 
strings etc. for when the interface changes and the script 
"breaks". There would also be some customisation for your 
particular setup so you would need a reasonable knowledge 
of how to write sh scripts and perl. If you're on another 
UNIX O/S, gifsicle and perl would need to be built from source 
or installed from a compatible release. I use the perl for 
http proxy-firewall access. This has some customisation for
working behind particular firewalls. There are other stdin/out
http access software such as wwwgrap which I havn't played 
with yet...so recustomisation is a steep learning curve for 
the novice but easy for someone suitably experienced. Like all
"open-source", any release that I may make is without any 
formal support obligation...but then again, I hardly ever 
need to use a "real" browser leaving my computer (rather than
me) to hit over 100 URL's every 10 mins for the ASWA archive 
and all my other "work-related" hits. That leaves my fingers
and brain free for detailed emails instead:-)

I might just briefly explain how it (the script) works...
Firstly a "hit" is made to retrieve the dates for the current
model run (AVN or MRF). This differs a little for the READY
metrogram case and the chart case. The script terminates if
no update is required from the previous run. Another "hit"
is made with "metdata" parameters to generate the metrogram
or chart required. The final "hit" is then made to retrieve
the generated metrogram (plus data) or chart. For each case
of chart (MRF+12hrs, AVN+6hrs), a fresh "hit" is needed to 
generate the chart and another to retrieve it. I also post-
process the metrogram data for import into MS-Excel where I 
then run a macro to generate some customised metrograms
with appropriate corrections applied e.g for altitude. I'm
looking at other scripting utlities for this function so
that I can kiss goodbye to MS-Excel once and for all:-)
Human time taken for all this is less than 3 minutes and
most of that is spent adjusting my model "correction" 
static parameters (weightings for correcting outgoing 
radiation flux etc.) By-the-way, MS-Excel is run within
SunPC/Win95/Office97, but it looks like StarOffice 5.1 
will do everything that I need. That's a major improvement
from where I sit in a dogmatic UNIX world:-)

Phew!...I needed to write that up:-)

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: Paul Yole [vortex at wwdg.com]
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:54:11 -0600
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Subject: aus-wx: Happy Birthday
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Hi All.

Just thought I would take this oppertunity to wish our very own Jane O'Niell a big happy birthday for this Sunday, the 12th of September.

On another note, nothing but a bit of cumulus here in Horsham today with the temp sitting around 11C at the moment.

Paul Yole
Australian Severe Weather Member
Homepage: http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/238/
Email: vortex at wwdg.com
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Public Hanging #1
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:35:50 +1000
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Our first public hanging will take place at the Victorian ASWA meeting on
the 9th October of the aforementioned Paul Yole........and no I'm not
getting any older or wiser  - thanks Paul!!!!!!

Jane


> Hi All.
>
> Just thought I would take this oppertunity to wish our very own Jane
O'Niell a big happy birthday for this Sunday, the 12th of September.
>
> On another note, nothing but a bit of cumulus here in Horsham today with
the temp sitting around 11C at the moment.
>
> Paul Yole
> Australian Severe Weather Member
> Homepage: http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/238/
> Email: vortex at wwdg.com
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From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Happy Birthday
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:48:04 +1000
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Yeah Happy birthday to the list and thanks to everyone who helped set it up,
its been great and can only get better. Also Happy Birthday Jane for Sunday.
Dane.
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>From: Paul Yole 

>Hi All.
>
>Just thought I would take this oppertunity to wish our very own Jane
O'Niell a big happy birthday for this Sunday, the 12th of September.
>
>On another note, nothing but a bit of cumulus here in Horsham today with
the temp sitting around 11C at the moment.
>
>Paul Yole
>Australian Severe Weather Member
>Homepage: http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/238/
>Email: vortex at wwdg.com
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: WA Advice
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY 
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 9:55 am WST on Friday, 10 September 1999

People in the Southwest District including the towns of Bunbury and Busselton
are advised that there is a risk of severe thunderstorms this morning,
extending
to the Lower West District including Mandurah and the Perth metropolitan area
later this afternoon.

Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could
result in damage to property.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vechicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions
may be
hazardous.

This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 2:00pm.

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PRIORITY
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 1:50 pm WST on Friday, 10 September 1999

People in the Southwest District and adjacent Lower West District,
including the
towns of Bunbury and Busselton, are advised that there is a risk of severe
thunderstorms this afternoon. The risk of severe thunderstorms is expected to
extend throughout the Lower West District, including Mandurah and the Perth
metropolitan area, tonight.

Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could
result in damage to property.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vechicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions
may be
hazardous.

This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 6:00pm.

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane Storms
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:13:49 +1000
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Hi all

Currently on radar and lightning tracker there's a number of showers with
mostly weak storms.  These passed through me with a few rumbles and moderate
rain for about 20mins.  (Btw I live in the nice part of Woodridge in Logan
City, just south of Brisbane) The 4pm radar shows lots of good intensity
mostly NW of Brisbane including an area of max reflectivity NE of Crows
Nest.  Some more precip is missing me to the NW but thunder is still
occurring.  Damn...have to go to work soon...

Regards

James Chambers
The Brisbane & SE Qld Storm Site
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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I dont want to spoil the fun for the brisbane guys, they will fill us in
later no doubt,  but if your online check out the brisbane local loop,
there is red and its pretty big!!

				Ira Fehlberg

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:16:17 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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I echo Kev's remarks,

I have DID (They used to call it MPD = Multiple Personality Disorder,
you know, "I have 4000 personalities and they've all signed contracts
for an Oprah Winfrey Special" etc) Well, its not quite like that but
anyway, the hyperactive, multifarious aspects that are me have
thoroughly enjoyed the mental stimulation that this list brings. Most
DID people have minds like sponges and I am no exception :-) Thanks for
the rich exchange of ideas, it has been a real treat to learn from you
guys during my fledgling flights into the world of meteorology.


Lindsay P.

Kevin Phyland wrote:
> 
> Hi every1,
> 
> "Happy birthday to you,
> Happy birthday to you,
> Happy birthday dear list...
> Happy birthday to you!"
> 
> Wow! I think I discovered the list in early October '98 (don't rightly
> remember how...Alzheimer's) ...gee I musta been in on the ground floor!!!
> 
> Thanx for being a vibrant, humorous intelligent buncha people...I feel quite
> priveleged to have been here this long!
> 
> ...and yep...we are all weird weather heads....Cool!
> 
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
> 
> P.S. Thanx wiz, Mike, et al!
> 
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:34:01 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Perhaps it is the very nature of our topic that has allowed this group
to 
flow along so well. There is a certain romance and simplicity associated
with the weather. It seems to draw people of similar nature into its web
of intrigue.

I mean, right now I am sitting here writing this as the rain bounces off
my tin roof and it is really satisfying, calming. I dunno, there is a
richness about it, watching snow fall, seeing clouds form, standing out
in a storm...and then being struck by lightning!


Lindsay P.


David Hart wrote:
> 
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> I have observed with other mailing lists, that they go in a cycle.
> First everyone is very excited about the list and tries to think of ways to
> get new subscribers, then there is a period where there are arguments
> about what on-topic or not. This is followed by long threads on topics
> that none but a few care about, followed by the flame wars, segmentation,
> long tirades about how how much better the list was in the "good ol' days"
> and then finally one group leaves. The remaining subscribers never seem to
> have the same enthusiasm, and the list just sort of stagnates.
> 
> I have been pleasantly suprised to see that this really hasn't happened to
> aussie-weather. This is the nicest list I have ever been on. While there
> has been some disagreement, mis-understanding, and hurt feelings (as will
> happen in any group) it's always been manageable. We don't even get
> grumblings about administrative things like no html or binaries. I find
> that the subscribers are respectful of one another, don't really argue
> about what is off topic (because everyone has a pretty good shared
> understanding of what the topic is), and post interesting messages that

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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I hate to gate crash the party but I am sure the list is older by at least 1
month. I am pretty sure that the Wollongong Flash Flood of 17th August 1999
occurred whilst the list was active.

Michael


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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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It also looks like there'll be another cold blast for southwest WA early
next week. Is spring 1999 going to be a repeat of 1992?. (It's La Nina not
El Nino at present, and I presume no recent volcanic eruption has been as
powerful as Mt Pinatubo)

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:59:27 +0100
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In message <37D85411.7841914E at telstra.com.au>, Michael Scollay
 writes
>[snip original message by Mark Hardy]
>
>Michael Scollay wrote on Thu, 09 Sep 1999 14:25:39 +1000
>> >
>> >Yeh...I download the entire 25 of the 0 to +288hr MRF forecast
>> >maps at 12hrs increment from READY with a single script on my
>> >demand. If you like, I could zip them up and put it on some ftp
>> >server for open access. Just spec the parameters needed (max
>> >two per map), central lat/long and the radius field of view in
>> >degrees...
> 
>Norman Lynagh wrote on Thu, 9 Sep 1999 06:42:26 +0100:
>>
>> Michael,
>> 
>> Can you share the script with those of us still climbing the learning
>> curve :)
>> 
>> Norman (ex-BoM)
>
>Perhaps...what you need is a UNIX box (I use a Sun SS5 with 
>Solaris 2.5.1), Perl 5.00402 at least, access to a standard 
>UNIX sh (shell) plus utilities like sed, grep etc., gifsicle
>1.12 (for cropping the gifs if you want that) and snoop, 
>strings etc. for when the interface changes and the script 
>"breaks". There would also be some customisation for your 
>particular setup so you would need a reasonable knowledge 
>of how to write sh scripts and perl. If you're on another 
>UNIX O/S, gifsicle and perl would need to be built from source 
>or installed from a compatible release. I use the perl for 
>http proxy-firewall access. This has some customisation for
>working behind particular firewalls. There are other stdin/out
>http access software such as wwwgrap which I havn't played 
>with yet...so recustomisation is a steep learning curve for 
>the novice but easy for someone suitably experienced. Like all
>"open-source", any release that I may make is without any 
>formal support obligation...but then again, I hardly ever 
>need to use a "real" browser leaving my computer (rather than
>me) to hit over 100 URL's every 10 mins for the ASWA archive 
>and all my other "work-related" hits. That leaves my fingers
>and brain free for detailed emails instead:-)
>
>I might just briefly explain how it (the script) works...
>Firstly a "hit" is made to retrieve the dates for the current
>model run (AVN or MRF). This differs a little for the READY
>metrogram case and the chart case. The script terminates if
>no update is required from the previous run. Another "hit"
>is made with "metdata" parameters to generate the metrogram
>or chart required. The final "hit" is then made to retrieve
>the generated metrogram (plus data) or chart. For each case
>of chart (MRF+12hrs, AVN+6hrs), a fresh "hit" is needed to 
>generate the chart and another to retrieve it. I also post-
>process the metrogram data for import into MS-Excel where I 
>then run a macro to generate some customised metrograms
>with appropriate corrections applied e.g for altitude. I'm
>looking at other scripting utlities for this function so
>that I can kiss goodbye to MS-Excel once and for all:-)
>Human time taken for all this is less than 3 minutes and
>most of that is spent adjusting my model "correction" 
>static parameters (weightings for correcting outgoing 
>radiation flux etc.) By-the-way, MS-Excel is run within
>SunPC/Win95/Office97, but it looks like StarOffice 5.1 
>will do everything that I need. That's a major improvement
>from where I sit in a dogmatic UNIX world:-)
>
>Phew!...I needed to write that up:-)
>
>Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

Michael,

Many thanks for that. The learning curve is longer than I thought. For
now I'll have to stick with manual downloads with Windows 98 :(

Norman.
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:43:33 +1100
From: Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au]
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Hi all, HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the list and also Jane ONeill. Hope your 
birthday celebrations are great Jane.

								Deano

Dane Newman wrote:
> 
> Yeah Happy birthday to the list and thanks to everyone who helped set it up,
> its been great and can only get better. Also Happy Birthday Jane for Sunday.
> Dane.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Yole 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
> Date: Friday, September 10, 1999 11:05 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Happy Birthday
> 
> >Hi All.
> >
> >Just thought I would take this oppertunity to wish our very own Jane
> O'Niell a big happy birthday for this Sunday, the 12th of September.
> >
> >On another note, nothing but a bit of cumulus here in Horsham today with
> the temp sitting around 11C at the moment.
> >
> >Paul Yole
> >Australian Severe Weather Member
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Nope, it was definately the 9th September, 1998 when the list was formed
and when the first test and welcome messages etc.. was sent to the list.

Jacob

At 05:29  10/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
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>month. I am pretty sure that the Wollongong Flash Flood of 17th August 1999
>occurred whilst the list was active.
>
>Michael
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:42:16 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Michael and all,
 
> I hate to gate crash the party but I am sure the list is older by at >least 1 month. I am pretty sure that the Wollongong Flash Flood of 17th >August 1999 occurred whilst the list was active.

I think you might be thinking of the online, weekly weather meetings
that preceded the Aus-wx list.  We were all waiting for you in
anticipation for you to come in and tell us what was happening!

As for the list - I think it is absolutely FANTASTIC, never in my life,
did I ever believe that there were so many people in Australia
interested in weather!

-- 
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(ASWA)
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QLD, 4153
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:56:18 +0800
From: Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au]
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IDW10W00
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 5:50 pm WST on Friday, 10 September 1999

People in the Southwest District and adjacent Lower West District,
including the
towns of Bunbury and Busselton, are advised that there is a risk of
severe
thunderstorms this evening. The risk of severe thunderstorms is expected
to
extend throughout the Lower West District, including Mandurah and the
Perth
metropolitan area, overnight.

Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that
could
result in damage to property.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout
for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vechicles
under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving
conditions may be
hazardous.

This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated at 10:00pm.

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:16:11 -0400
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On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Lindsay wrote:

> ... "I have 4000 personalities and they've all signed contracts
> for an Oprah Winfrey Special" etc) ...

HA! I loved that. 

> ... it has been a real treat to learn from you
> guys during my fledgling flights into the world of meteorology.

I to have been impressed with the lists ability to have room for folks
with different levels of meteorological knowledge.

-dkh-


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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Cc: 
Subject: aus-wx: Another Victorian webcam!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:51:59 +1000
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Another great webcam, courtesy of Peter Hutton of OMNIconnect, to join the
brilliant one in Melbourne that has produced images featured in some of the
Melbourne chases over the last year http://webcam.omni.net.au/ - this one is
located in Swan Hill and can be found at www.murraytel.com.au   Definitely
worth a look!!

Many thanks from all of us to Peter for letting us know about this
development - it'll be a great early warning system for anything that moves
down upon us from the NW especially in summer!!!!

Many thanks again Peter!!

Jane
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Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
Melbourne Storm Chasers
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:46:55 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

Well what a stormy night in parts of SE QLD tonight.. after a nice
little storm this afternoon around 4pm, the evening has provided a very
nice lightning show.. i have had some great Anvil crawlers and Cg's here
from around 9:15pm to 10:30pm.. 1-2 seconds between thunder and
lightning here for about 20 mins as well.. it feels great to listen to
the long deep rumbles of anvil crawlers letting loose directly over me
again.. Can't wait for storm season to really kick in..


Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> Another great webcam, courtesy of Peter Hutton of OMNIconnect, to join the
> brilliant one in Melbourne that has produced images featured in some of the
> Melbourne chases over the last year http://webcam.omni.net.au/ - this one is
> located in Swan Hill and can be found at www.murraytel.com.au   Definitely
> worth a look!!
> 
> Many thanks from all of us to Peter for letting us know about this
> development - it'll be a great early warning system for anything that moves
> down upon us from the NW especially in summer!!!!
> 
> Many thanks again Peter!!
> 
> Jane
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Storms 
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:22:30 +1000
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Hi all

Yeah its all happening here just south of Brisbane.  The rain is only steady
but there's some really nice CC lightning about with the odd (every few
mins) close CG with "house shaking" thunder.  Perhaps I should go offline
soon...

Anyway the stuff that Ben is talking about missed us here but now we're
getting it :)

By the way, there's some more dev't and lightning activity behind this lot!

James Chambers
Logan City

>Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
>Well what a stormy night in parts of SE QLD tonight.. after a nice
>little storm this afternoon around 4pm, the evening has provided a very
>nice lightning show.. i have had some great Anvil crawlers and Cg's here
>from around 9:15pm to 10:30pm.. 1-2 seconds between thunder and
>lightning here for about 20 mins as well.. it feels great to listen to
>the long deep rumbles of anvil crawlers letting loose directly over me
>again.. Can't wait for storm season to really kick in..

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:43:59 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Storms In SE QLD 
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Hey all,  Paul from Brisbane here.

Had some very nice stuff here. A lot of lightning around in the past 90
minutes or so. Nothing too close but still very nice. The rain has been
on and off for a while now. But I did get a few short bursts of very
heavy rain. The lightning tracker has had new strikes on it since 1pm
this afternoon. Looks like a nice day so far. Just saw another flash!!
ok cya later..

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Document: 990910.htm
Updated: 22 September 1999

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