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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Saturday, 11 September 1999

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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    SE QLD Storms 
002 "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au]         Public Hanging #1
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    SE QLD Storms
004 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           SE QLD Storms
005 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              SE QLD Storms (BSCH Updates)
006 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         Lightning tracker loop
007 Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]            Severe Gold Coast Storm
008 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Another storm date...
009 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Severe Gold Coast Storm
010 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           New South Wales meeting 11th September 1999
011 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Fwd: NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
014 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           ASWA members of NSW
015 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]       Western Sydney Funnell Friday 10th

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Storms 
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:57:30 +1000
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Hi all, me again

>By the way, there's some more dev't and lightning activity behind this lot!


That moved through us with more close lightning.  The rain was heavier this
time and the wind gusted a little.  Even more lightning out Dalby way so in
a couple of hours it could be here again.  Anyway, time for bed...signing
off

James Chambers
Logan City

PS:  I'll see all those Brisbane people at the Seminar this arvo!



>>Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>>
>>Well what a stormy night in parts of SE QLD tonight.. after a nice
>>little storm this afternoon around 4pm, the evening has provided a very
>>nice lightning show.. i have had some great Anvil crawlers and Cg's here
>>from around 9:15pm to 10:30pm.. 1-2 seconds between thunder and
>>lightning here for about 20 mins as well.. it feels great to listen to
>>the long deep rumbles of anvil crawlers letting loose directly over me
>>again.. Can't wait for storm season to really kick in..


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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Public Hanging #1
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:12:01 +1000
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jane ONeill [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 11:35 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Public Hanging #1


> Our first public hanging will take place at the Victorian ASWA meeting on
> the 9th October of the aforementioned Paul Yole........and no I'm not
> getting any older or wiser  - thanks Paul!!!!!!
>
> Jane
>
>
> > Hi All.
> >
> > Just thought I would take this oppertunity to wish our very own Jane
> O'Niell a big happy birthday for this Sunday, the 12th of September.

I hope you're not charging for the seats to the hanging
Jane.............don't despair...mine's not that far orf
either............(oh gawd)
John from Ballina

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 07:26:25 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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My my, what a lovely night!

After seemingly missing out for the first part of the night, with
Redcliffe and northern suburbs getting some nice lightning/CG's (even
though they were quite far away, they were quite blinding, and lit up
the entire sky!)  And then it was the southern suburbs turn, with heavy
rain and more nice lightning/CG's/crawlers...and it looked like the
quaint little suburb of Belmont (eastern suburbs) would miss out - but a
small cell popped up just to the west of Brisbane, and gave me 4 close
CG's (1s or less) and some nice lightning, and very loud thunder - gotta
love the house shaking thunder! :)  And the first CG/crack of thunder
(quite unexpected) almost lead me to go and change my pants...

Unfortunately, the rain (and somewhat infrequent lightning) meant no
photographs were able to be attempted.

We received 30.1mm yesterday afternoon from the first line of weak
showers/t'storms - and then from the storms o'night.  Not bad,
considering September is our driest month (avg of 31mm).  Our total for
Sept is 38.4mm now, already taking us over the average.

-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 21:46:55 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> My my, what a lovely night!

Things seem to be hotting up - great stuff....

Les

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:55:29 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Storms (BSCH Updates)
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..

I ended up getting 16mm from the activity yesterday.. including the 24mm
on had on Tuesday it brings my total for this month to 40mm - my average
for September is 29.8mm..

I have updated BSCH with reports on the last 5 events in SE QLD over the
past week or two.. this includes a radar event loop for the slow moving
severe hailstorm(s) that caused major damage to crops west of Brisbane..
reports include up to 90% of crops totally destroyed, and roofs damage
by hail (official), and up to 15 inches of hail covering the New England
Highway west of Brisbane (unofficial)..

There is also a radar event loop and lightning detection images for the
showers and thunderstorms that occurred over SE QLD late yesterday
afternoon.. 

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/recentevents.htm

This section will be updated for any notable event that occurs in SE
QLD..


Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> My my, what a lovely night!
> 
> After seemingly missing out for the first part of the night, with
> Redcliffe and northern suburbs getting some nice lightning/CG's (even
> though they were quite far away, they were quite blinding, and lit up
> the entire sky!)  And then it was the southern suburbs turn, with heavy
> rain and more nice lightning/CG's/crawlers...and it looked like the
> quaint little suburb of Belmont (eastern suburbs) would miss out - but a
> small cell popped up just to the west of Brisbane, and gave me 4 close
> CG's (1s or less) and some nice lightning, and very loud thunder - gotta
> love the house shaking thunder! :)  And the first CG/crack of thunder
> (quite unexpected) almost lead me to go and change my pants...
> 
> Unfortunately, the rain (and somewhat infrequent lightning) meant no
> photographs were able to be attempted.
> 
> We received 30.1mm yesterday afternoon from the first line of weak
> showers/t'storms - and then from the storms o'night.  Not bad,
> considering September is our driest month (avg of 31mm).  Our total for
> Sept is 38.4mm now, already taking us over the average.
> 
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
> Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:13:48 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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Hey again.

Nice and cool here, 19C right now at 11am. Sun has just come out. It was
a nice little evening last night with all the lightning and thunder and
rain. I just finished my Lightning Tracker loop. It's 360kb. Here it is:

http://www.powerup.com.au/~pmiracki/weather/eloop.gif

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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:50:39 +1000
From: Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]
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Hi all,
        I was talking to my neighbour today, and she told me of a storm
she remembers back in the summer of 1969/1970 that hit the Gold Coast.
The details she remembers are:
1) The Corrumbin beach was completely washed away, with the adjacent
road collapsing.

2) Surfers Paradise lost its beach (all sand washed away)

3) Wind damage to buildings, trees uprooted

4) Tennis ball sized hail

In summary, all Gold Coast beaches suffered extensive damage to the
extent that sand and boulders had to be trucked in to rebuild the
beaches - being a huge setback for the local tourist industry. Does
anyone have info on what wx event occurred, how it formed, damage caused
and date/time? Please reply on the list or direct to my email address.
Cheers Peter (Didjman)

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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Another storm date...
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:55:33 +1000
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Hey all,

Firstly - GO THE BLUES (directed at all West Coast supporters)....

Secondly - anyone have any details about a severe storm in metro melbourne
on 21/2/82.  I read in a train magazine that there was a severe storm on
that date which stopped trains for a while.

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

Andy Mac
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Gold Coast Storm
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:00:36 +1000
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The Tennis Ball sized hail and the beach erosion would be completely
unrelated, in fact it would be unlikely to happen within the same week even.
( one event likes wind shear the other hates it )

The first two would be Cyclone, tropical Depression or East Coast low
damage, I would say cyclone.

If you visit Michael & Jimmy's superb site at
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/cyclones/history.htm I would
say that 1971 seems a more likely candidate.

Michael



> 1) The Corrumbin beach was completely washed away, with the adjacent
> road collapsing.
>
> 2) Surfers Paradise lost its beach (all sand washed away)
>
> 3) Wind damage to buildings, trees uprooted
>
> 4) Tennis ball sized hail
>
> In summary, all Gold Coast beaches suffered extensive damage to the
> extent that sand and boulders had to be trucked in to rebuild the
> beaches - being a huge setback for the local tourist industry. Does
> anyone have info on what wx event occurred, how it formed, damage caused
> and date/time? Please reply on the list or direct to my email address.
> Cheers Peter (Didjman)
>
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:41:50 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: New South Wales meeting 11th September 1999
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This message in particular relates to the NSW members but should also send 
a message to others on the list as well. Please read and absorb. I am not 
being negative but I think there has been of late a very serious lack of 
interest arising...I suppose this phase can be expected but perhaps not so 
severe.

Well today we had yet another meeting here in NSW for September. Now the 
meeting was enjoyed by those who attended....by those who did bother to 
attend. Now I am sure a major part of the problem was the short one week 
notice and I am to blame for this but I am sure that some others could have 
turned up. I am baffled as to what can be done to help this almost crisis 
situation!!!! New South Wales has the most members but today you would have 
thought it was a South Australian meeting (no harm intended SA). In fact 
both Queensland and NSW have had a disappointing turn out of late both in 
terms of social events and video nights.

I know the NSW meetings were administration orientated but that has now 
been minimised and will not take up too much time. This means you can 
expect something to be discussed or perhaps a guest speaker to be invited 
or a talk given by a member in most meetings from now on. Please note this 
guys.

Here are some explanations, proposals and solutions to what I think may be 
the problems.

-First, I think perhaps a yearly planner has to be adopted wherever 
possible to help give some warning in terms of dates of future events 
including video nights and other activities. Now, meetings in NSW will be 
held normally on the first Saturday of each month but we were unfortunately 
thrown around a little because of a planned venue change not coming on 
time. Hopefully that will be ready by the first Saturday in October.

-I think there are members who are not reading the aussie-weather list 
e-mails and therefore were not aware of the date today.

-Some people are not reading the ASWA newsletter. Now this relates to the 
problem of people not reading the aussie-weather list e-mail. The solution 
to this is for e-mail announcements to be e-mailed by the mass e-mail 
member form sender. Please make use of this for ASWA items please. I think 
mail will have to go out to those who are not on e-mail by state reps 
sening snail mail or a simple phone call be made.

-People, particularly the younger members, work on Saturdays. There is no 
real solution to this problem except perhaps keeping with the formal base 
date as was suggested decided by each state.

-Some people have lost interest or just are undecided whether to go or not. 
They then probably decide that they may turn up to the next one. Please, 
try and turn up to as many as possible wherever possible. This allows for a 
friendly exchange of stories, information and ideas. It allows newer 
members to meet others and also feel part of a unique group. Your input is 
extremely important. Even if you turn up for one hour at the beginning or 
the end; that is better than not turning up at all.

- It is winter which means nothing is happening (for Qld and NSW) so a lot 
of the members particularly in the eastern states will not think there is 
much to discuss. Believe me, that is when you reflect on the past and 
prepare for the future. Such ideas as how to take lightning photographs, 
what to do in a storm chase, how can you storm chase effectively and 
safely. Now these can be discussed during the non-active months of the year 
by members. I would like to see more members giving presentations of their 
be it brief and simple to help them get the confidence of some public 
speaking and help spread the message if invited to a local meeting in a 
club of sorts. I have done a few of these already and it is another way of 
educating the public.

The main thing is that we are going through a phase and I think the 
interest will spark up again. But this should not be somnething we can 
expect during the winter months. I would like to see the interest 
maintained throughout the year. If you have any ideas discussed or would 
like something discussed in a meeting, please approach your State 
Representative.

The key to success of ASWA is activity created by the members themselves. 
You are ASWA.

Jimmy Deguara

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
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Hi Jimmy here,

The next NSW  ASWA meeting is going to be held on Saturday 9th October 
1999. Now, the venue has yet to be decided but it is important to decide 
the time we will have meetings.

We need to try and agree on a time that would suite most and people then 
should try and honour these times and turn up to meetings. Now the current 
times we meet is

9:30am and make it a whole midday affair...

The new proposed time will be after 5:30pm to allow people working and 
playing soccer, jumping off cliffs etc to take part. Please indicate your 
preferences to me please not replying to the list.

My e-mail is jdeguara at ihug.com.au

We are also going to have to send out mail to those not on the internet and 
mass e-mail those not on the list. Please send me your comments and 
suggestions asap by this Wednesday 15th September

Thanks from a much cooler

Jimmy Deguara

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If there Jumping off cliff's i doubt they will attend at the new proposed
time :)

Matt Smith


>Hi Jimmy here,
>
>The next NSW  ASWA meeting is going to be held on Saturday 9th October 
>1999. Now, the venue has yet to be decided but it is important to decide 
>the time we will have meetings.
>
>We need to try and agree on a time that would suite most and people then 
>should try and honour these times and turn up to meetings. Now the current 
>times we meet is
>
>9:30am and make it a whole midday affair...
>
>The new proposed time will be after 5:30pm to allow people working and 
>playing soccer, jumping off cliffs etc to take part. Please indicate your 
>preferences to me please not replying to the list.
>
>My e-mail is jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
>We are also going to have to send out mail to those not on the internet and 
>mass e-mail those not on the list. Please send me your comments and 
>suggestions asap by this Wednesday 15th September
>
>Thanks from a much cooler
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
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Please note if you wish to not be included into future e-mails regarding 
ASWA (Australian Severe Weather Association) announcements, please reply 
and indicate so. I am definitely not trying to spam anyone with such e-mail 
announcements. I know just how irritating messages that keep coming even 
though you are not interested can be...

Otherwise for those interested, a new time has been arranged for ASWA 
meetings for consideration. Please indicate your preference. The most 
popular one will win.

Jimmy Deguara


>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 20:55:00 +1000
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>From: Jimmy Deguara 
>Subject: NSW ASWA members - preferred meeting time and date
>
>Hi Jimmy here,
>
>The next NSW  ASWA meeting is going to be held on Saturday 9th October 
>1999. Now, the venue has yet to be decided but it is important to decide 
>the time we will have meetings.
>
>We need to try and agree on a time that would suite most and people then 
>should try and honour these times and turn up to meetings. Now the current 
>times we meet is
>
>9:30am and make it a whole midday affair...
>
>The new proposed time will be after 5:30pm to allow people working and 
>playing soccer, jumping off cliffs etc to take part. Please indicate your 
>preferences to me please not replying to the list.
>
>My e-mail is jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
>We are also going to have to send out mail to those not on the internet 
>and mass e-mail those not on the list. Please send me your comments and 
>suggestions asap by this Wednesday 15th September
>
>Thanks from a much cooler
>
>Jimmy Deguara


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        Michael Fewings 
From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA members of NSW
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Hi me again,

Just another point which I am going to clarify. I think there needs to be a 
little more communication between members offline as well. One thing I 
would like to propose is for people that live near each other and know 
others particularly off the list to keep each other informed of coming 
dates as well as just chat on weather events. You could compare what 
happened in your region as compared to others living nearby. You could also 
car pool if the need arises.

We need to try and increase attendances back to the respectable levels 
earlier in the year.

Jimmy Deguara

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From: "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Western Sydney Funnell Friday 10th
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:53:20 EST
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Hey everyone,

I sent a message to the list friday, however, for some reason it didn't make 
the list, so here tis.

At about 1:45 yesterday, a heavy shower/storm approached from the south of 
where i was (UWS Werrington). It was fairly dark, and their was a lowered 
front as the storm was apporaching.
When i finished uni about 25 minutes later the storm has passed, dumping 
only a brief shower of cold rain. So as I was driving out of the uni, 
(looking north) I could see a very dark area of the cloud, so naturally I 
enquired. (2:10pm) From where i was i could see a menacing looking front, 
and a lowering, with a brown/pinky rain curtain. Associated with this 
lowering was alot of swirling scud which was situated near the ground and 
being quickly sucked up into the storm. Then over the next few minutes the 
scud, grew denser, and organised itself, so now the lowering was broader and 
more defined.It was it this stage i discovered my fatal error- no camera. 
Then a block of cloud slowly spun out of the lowering. Initially it was very 
coarse, and more like scud, but as the cloud descended, it became smoother, 
and rotation was evident.
The size was hard to tell, i am bad with sizes, so i will direct you to a 
picture of one like it
http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/funcld1.jpg
it was very similar to this except probably shorter in length by a quarter, 
and a little thinner.
It lasted for 60 seconds. It slowly kept descending until it spun itself 
out.
Then a minute after, another spindly funnel descended, very thin, like a 
rope, but only lasted 5 secs. The same thing happened again before the 
lowering basically broke up.
After reporting it to the BOM who thought, that it was 'interesting'., and 
that they had been watching the 'cell'. The storm dumped a fair bit of rain 
around cranebrook, so much so there was water over the road on Taylor Rd and 
Londonderry Rd, and cranebrook rd.
An interesting piece of weather phenmonea.




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Daniel Weatherhead
weatherhead at ozemail.com.au
Blaxland, NSW
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