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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Wednesday, 15 September 1999

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001 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]        Floyd
002 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Clouds with vertical development seen in Melbourne today!
003 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Floyd
004 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Clouds with vertical development seen in Melbourne today!
005 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Clouds with vertical development seen in Melbourne today!
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Floyd
007 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at zdnetmail.com]      Strange clouds....!!
008 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        This weeks low scaled back
009 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Fw: Storms around Ballarat
010 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          This weeks low scaled back
011 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             (no subject)
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Very warm at Alice Springs
013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Fire season for NSW south coast brought forward
014 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Very warm at Alice Springs
015 "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com]          Fire season for NSW south coast brought forward
016 "Rod Aikman" [raikman at hotmail.com]             Very warm at Alice Springs
017 Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]            STORM!
018 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]                STORM!
019 Pjcorlett at aol.com                              STORM!

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001

From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: aus-wx: Floyd
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Hi ASWA,

	Floyd has begun his northward turn, and it is believed
that the Miamians can stop sinking nails into their houses. 
Conficence is high that an approaching trough is going 
to steer Floyd up the coast and into, say, South Carolina.

	The latest stats are:  927mb core pressure; movement
WNW at ~20 km/h; max. sustained winds ~240 km/h (upper end
of category 4).  Since Andrew some Floridians' life
has not been the same, so Floyd is a BIG DEAL (SORRY,
SOMETHING HAPPENED TO MY CAPS LOCK KEY)

HARALD
 
 
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:23:04 +0100
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Jane ONeill wrote:

> 
>
> I can actually see cumulus exhibiting a degree of vertical development along
> the ranges east of Melbourne.

What's vertical development????

Les

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:21:41 +0100
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Harald Richter wrote:

> Hi ASWA,

Nasa were still showing concern about their space shuttles being blown away
this evening (BBC News - 1800GMT) this baby is S-S 4-5!! Apparently the
hangers are rated to 150mph winds max. Silly Nasa.

NB Lightning is a natural process which is essentialy a big spark in the sky
followed by a loud noise. Very rare when being discussed by chasers 

Les

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:34:22 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Les, Everyone..

Vertical development is when clouds like Cu or Tcu tower higher into the
atmosphere.. as opposed to shallow Cu or layered clouds..

Like these:

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/anthony/99mard.htm

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/anthony/99marc.htm



Les Crossan wrote:
> 
> Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> > 
> >
> > I can actually see cumulus exhibiting a degree of vertical development along
> > the ranges east of Melbourne.
> 
> What's vertical development????
> 
> Les
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:57:14 +0100
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Ben Quinn wrote:

> Hey Les, Everyone..

So thats what it looks like - i'd just about forgotten...

Les

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:33:25 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Harald Richter wrote:
> 
> Hi ASWA,
> 
>         Floyd has begun his northward turn, and it is believed
> that the Miamians can stop sinking nails into their houses.
> Conficence is high that an approaching trough is going
> to steer Floyd up the coast and into, say, South Carolina.

Floyd is absolutely huge (although, it has weakened slightly now),
originally it had sustained gales of 930km in diameter!!  At the moment
though, it's decreased to about 680km in diameter.  None the less, it's 
a very large hurricane.  It's weakened slightly - sustained winds to
220km/h  taking it down from a Cat 4/5 to a 'solid' Cat 4 on both
scales  And as you have mentioned, it has begun its northward turn, and
there'd be a lot of nervous people in the Carolina's now.

For sat pics, you might want to see:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/atlantic/storm/dvor-nh1.GIF
for half hour updates,
or:
http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/Atlantic/TRCfloyd257B_N5.jpg
or, you can goto:
http://www.osei.noaa.gov/Events/Tropical/Atlantic/
and view a series of SUPERB special images provided by OSEI.

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Hi every1,

8 a.m. here in Wycheproof and I spy...no!! can it be?? Yes, it appears to be a Cb!!! It's quite dark to the SE and more storms appear to be building to the NW!!!

Whoohoo!!!

Will keep the list updated!

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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: This weeks low scaled back
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> 
> I see that the latest GASP has scaled back the low depression near Tasmania.
> Looks like another fizzer.

GASP is on its own here - LAPS, the US and UK all have strong systems
(the new EC run isn't through yet). Also, if LAPS (which outputs every 
12 hours) is anything to go by, the low is likely to be at its strongest
tomorrow morning - falling between the 24-hour and 48-hour runs.

I was actually reading a 1909 publication on that year's floods in
western Victoria and South Australia (which appear to have been
amongst the most severe on record in that region) and noticed a 
striking similarity between the chart sequence in that episode and
that forecast for the next 72 hours - although the lead-up period was
far wetter in 1909. I still wouldn't be surprised to see some flooding
of consequence in the Avoca and Loddon, and possibly the Wimmera.

Blair Trewin

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Storms around Ballarat
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:27:04 +1000
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Things are starting to happen.....

>From: Leslie Baxter 
>Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 1999 12:01
>Subject: Storms around Ballarat


> Hey folks, well here's a early warning, just back from a recon, Storms
cells
> developing due west and south of here, not much out to the north but, CBs
on
> the rise, I got a few snaps, hope they look as good as in real life when I
> get the film developed. Well good chgasing
> Les
> PS AM radio picking up Crackles from Lighnting......
>

Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria

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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:46:58 +1000 (EST), Blair Trewin
 wrote:

>> 
>> I see that the latest GASP has scaled back the low depression near Tasmania.
>> Looks like another fizzer.
>
>GASP is on its own here - LAPS, the US and UK all have strong systems
>(the new EC run isn't through yet). Also, if LAPS (which outputs every 
>12 hours) is anything to go by, the low is likely to be at its strongest
>tomorrow morning - falling between the 24-hour and 48-hour runs.
>
This morning's GASP is bringing fairly cold air over SE Aust late this
week and into the weekend, with the 536 thickness line and sub-zero
850hPa temperatures covering all southern and central NSW by 12z on
Saturday. The latest (00z) LAPS is pointing that way, too, with a
tongue of 532 thickness touching Mt Gambier at +48hours (Friday 9am
EST) and obviously heading inland. 


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For those who have access, this morning's meso-laps showed an extremely 
strong low forming off  Portland VIC (west of Strahan) by 00Z tomorrow.
Central pressure 975 and winds up to 50kts. BoM forecasts already talking
about 45kts for West Bass Strait. Will be interesting to see what the next
run of the model produces..
Mark

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>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 1:00 PM
>

> On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:46:58 +1000 (EST), Blair Trewin
>  wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I see that the latest GASP has scaled back the low depression near Tasmania.
>>> Looks like another fizzer.
>>
>>GASP is on its own here - LAPS, the US and UK all have strong systems
>>(the new EC run isn't through yet). Also, if LAPS (which outputs every
>>12 hours) is anything to go by, the low is likely to be at its strongest
>>tomorrow morning - falling between the 24-hour and 48-hour runs.
>>
> This morning's GASP is bringing fairly cold air over SE Aust late this
> week and into the weekend, with the 536 thickness line and sub-zero
> 850hPa temperatures covering all southern and central NSW by 12z on
> Saturday. The latest (00z) LAPS is pointing that way, too, with a
> tongue of 532 thickness touching Mt Gambier at +48hours (Friday 9am
> EST) and obviously heading inland.
>
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Very warm at Alice Springs
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Alice Springs was reporting 36.6 at 1449 local time. This is an
early-season record and is starting to get within striking distance
of the September record there (37.7 on 26/9/1972).

They're also reporting 32-knot wind gusts.

It will be interesting to see what some of the traditional hot spots
get to - I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Mount Dare and
Birdsville get within striking distance of 40. 

NSW could also get some very warm temperatures tomorrow, particularly
the coast.

Blair Trewin
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There is also another moderate but serious fire at the moment I would say 
near Warragamba Dam or to its South.

Jimmy Deguara

At 17:45 14/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Anybody living north of Sydney would be flat out lighting any sort of fire
>of late. But southwards the rainfall has been below average, although enough
>to keep things in a "green drought". The start of the fire season has been
>brought forward 1 month on the NSW South Coast.
>
>I was only reminded of this this afternoon when a small brush fire broke out
>near Albion Park.
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Very warm at Alice Springs
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> 
> Alice Springs was reporting 36.6 at 1449 local time. This is an
> early-season record and is starting to get within striking distance
> of the September record there (37.7 on 26/9/1972).
> 
> They're also reporting 32-knot wind gusts.
> 
> It will be interesting to see what some of the traditional hot spots
> get to - I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Mount Dare and
> Birdsville get within striking distance of 40. 

1500 bulletins are through. 39 at Birdsville, 38 at Mount Dare,
37 at Moomba and Alice Springs, 36 at Tibooburra. The Birdsville and
Alice Springs values are early-season records.

Also a fire weather warning for Alice Springs. Very unusually, this 
has been issued in the afternoon for a 3-hour period only.

Blair Trewin
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Hey All,

Yes you can see the smoke haze drifting to the south of the city at present.
The BOM have issued a Fire Weather Warning for the Illawarra , Metro and 
Hunter areas for tommorow with Hot, dry and windy conditions to continue.
I also noticed they are forecasting 31c for Sydney and up to 33c out west 
for tommorow. Certainly looks interesting

James


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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fire season for NSW south coast brought forward
>Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:31:12 +1000
>
>There is also another moderate but serious fire at the moment I would say
>near Warragamba Dam or to its South.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 17:45 14/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>Anybody living north of Sydney would be flat out lighting any sort of fire
>>of late. But southwards the rainfall has been below average, although 
>>enough
>>to keep things in a "green drought". The start of the fire season has been
>>brought forward 1 month on the NSW South Coast.
>>
>>I was only reminded of this this afternoon when a small brush fire broke 
>>out
>>near Albion Park.
>>
>>
>>Michael Thompson
>>http://thunder.simplenet.com
>>
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Hi Blair and others,

This is probably an important factor inasmuch as the rather scanty rainfall 
received (and expected) from the deep depression in the Bight - the air over 
the interior of the continent is rather dry and hot. It would be 
interesting, if it were possible, to see a satelite image or nephanalysis 
chart of the August 1909 event. I suspect that this event would have had a 
good tropical-extratropical connection, ie. a northwest cloud band, 
associated with it, similar to the event of August 27-29 1992.(Ref Aust. 
Met. Magazine vol. 44, pp 201-218).
Just my thoughts for what they are worth.
Regards
Rod Aikman
Bendigo


Alice Springs was reporting 36.6 at 1449 local time. This is an
early-season record and is starting to get within striking distance
of the September record there (37.7 on 26/9/1972).

They're also reporting 32-knot wind gusts.

It will be interesting to see what some of the traditional hot spots
get to - I wouldn't be surprised if the likes of Mount Dare and
Birdsville get within striking distance of 40.

NSW could also get some very warm temperatures tomorrow, particularly
the coast.

Blair Trewin
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:11:53 +1000
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Hi all,
        I can finally hear thunder!! It is east of Seymour and Ne of
Broadford. CC's inconsistent at between 3-10 sec's
Cheers Peter(Didjman)

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Yeah Peter I can see those CG's, distant to the north of here, only about
one or two a minute. Dane.
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>Hi all,
>        I can finally hear thunder!! It is east of Seymour and Ne of
>Broadford. CC's inconsistent at between 3-10 sec's
>Cheers Peter(Didjman)
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From: Pjcorlett at aol.com
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Hi all,
        There are very infrequent flashes to the NW of Melbourne as I write, 
but the real action appears to be in SA. There is a nice line of storms on 
radar stretching from Adelaide to Mt Gambier. The Mt Gambier cells are 
showing plenty of pink and red. 

I contemplated driving West, but I don't hold much hope that I could reach 
the storms before they die.

Yours in SDS,

Pete.





In a message dated 9/15/99 8:01:09 PM AUS Eastern Standard Time, 
dpn at bigpond.com writes:

<< Yeah Peter I can see those CG's, distant to the north of here, only about
 one or two a minute. Dane.
 -----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Matters 

 
 
 >Hi all,
 >        I can finally hear thunder!! It is east of Seymour and Ne of
 >Broadford. CC's inconsistent at between 3-10 sec's
 >Cheers Peter(Didjman)
 > >>
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