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001 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] Sydney storms (22/8)
002 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] My latest photos (also)
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Newspaper article
004 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Sydney storms (22/8)
005 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au] STA ISSED FOR NSW
006 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at pacific.net.au] Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
007 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
008 "Max King" [mnk at zip.com.au] Sydney storms (22/8)
009 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] introduction
010 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Storm Chasing Saturday
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Storm Chasing Saturday
012 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Blaxland Weather Station
013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Little Storm with nice bolts
014 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
015 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] Storm Chasing Saturday
016 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Newspaper article
017 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Sydney storms (22/8)
018 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Sydney storms (22/8)
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001
From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: re: aus-wx: Sydney storms (22/8)
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:49:28 +0000 (GMT)
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Hi all,
A look at Benn's radar loop of the recent Sydney storms,
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sydney/eventloop.gif
shows an interesting development in the last few frames.
Seems to me the ever backbuilding line of storms eventually
forms a mesolow very near Sydney. Any surface obs that
confirm this guess?
Harald
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 05:19:05 +0930
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: My latest photos (also)
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Hey ppls,
I also have some new pics from Friday the 17th of Sept.
http://lightning.virtualave.net/newpic1.jpg through to newpic8.jpg
I am still sorting out rolls of film, so more will be added soon.
Newpic 1. Gust front
Newpic 2. Gust front
Newpic 3. Closer shot from behind main cell showing hail curtain
Newpic 4. Almost the whole of the rear, showing Fibrous Anvil
Newpic 5. Left hand side of the main cell, showing more Cb's going up.
Newpic 6. Right hand side of the main cell.
Newpic 7. Another cell dropping huge amounts of rain. note the small
rainbow below the base.
Newpic 8. Bright halo around moon. 3 second exp.
I hope you enjoy :)
Just a little something from Adelaide to you!
Andrew Wall (VK5NAJ)
15 Elio Drv,
Paralowie 5108,
South Australia.
ph. (08) 82854590
S.A. / N.T. Co-ordinator for the ASWA Inc.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:06:04 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Marty wrote:
>
> Hi Anthony and all,
>
> Got home this evening and opened the local paper to discover a story
> on Anthony Cornelius and the Australian Severe Weather Association!
Good on you, AC!
> If you haven't yet seen it, it's on page 6 of the Northern News
> (dated Thu 23 Sep). Perhaps on a different page for the paper in your
> area?
That's unlikely unless the Northern News is part of the Fairfax or
Packer group of papers. If it's an independant, then the artical
will more than likely remain local to QLD people. Would someone
be kind enough to scan the artical in and paste it up on the
appropriate ASWA server for all people in ASWA to see?
[snip]
,-_|\ Michael Scollay
/ASWA \ mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:52:24 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Ben,
I would like to thank you for doing the animated gif of the Sydney storms the
otherday.
Regards
--
Michael Fewings
Photographer of:
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au
Web Master of:
Australian Severe Weather Association Inc.
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
Ben Quinn wrote:
> Hey John, Everyone..
>
> I saved radar for Mathew and Dann while they were out chasing.. and i
> compiled this loop of the storms..
>
> http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sydney/eventloop.gif
>
> The movement of the storm on the northern edge of the line was
> interesting..
>
> If you cut back that directory to
>
> http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sydney/
>
> You will find all the stuff i saved..
>
> John Woodbridge wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Has anyone saved a radar loop of the storms as they crossed Sydney please?
> >
> > John.
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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: STA ISSED FOR NSW
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:43:34 +1000
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Afternoon all
Looks like the NSW people could be in for yet another interesting
afternoon......
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF
METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1410 on Friday the
24th of September 1999 This advice affects people in the following weather
districts: Mid-North Coast Hunter Thunderstorms are forecast within the
advice area from 2:00pm until 8:00pm tonight. Some of these are expected to
be severe, bringing large hailstones, destructive winds and very heavy
rainfall.
Congestus here on the ranges to the N of Melbourne currently trying to
break/wear away at a 6C cap - might (only might) be lucky enough to see a
distant storm later this arvo/evening.
ENJOY....
Andrew McDonald
(Macca)
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at pacific.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:19:53 +1000
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Hey all
Well it looks like winter has departed from SE Australia, for the next week
at least anyway. All models are in agreement that a huge high will become
cemented in the Tasman, any fronts/troughs dieing in the arse. The BOM are
forecasting 32 for Adelaide on Tuesday and 26 for Melbourne. I'm thinking
Melbourne could approach 30 next week. This warm weather looks extending
until the end of the week, the only hiccup been a weak front mid week.
Reached 31 in Mildura today (forecast high of 24), and temps are now
approaching 40 in northern SA.
Bring it on.
Nick Sykes
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
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>
> Hey all
>
> Well it looks like winter has departed from SE Australia, for the next week
> at least anyway. All models are in agreement that a huge high will become
> cemented in the Tasman, any fronts/troughs dieing in the arse. The BOM are
> forecasting 32 for Adelaide on Tuesday and 26 for Melbourne. I'm thinking
> Melbourne could approach 30 next week. This warm weather looks extending
> until the end of the week, the only hiccup been a weak front mid week.
>
> Reached 31 in Mildura today (forecast high of 24), and temps are now
> approaching 40 in northern SA.
>
All sorts of records could be in jeopardy here. Inland there doesn't seem
to be even a glimmer of a break during next week.
Mt Dare (SA) reached 39 today. Even Whyalla is forecasting 37 on
Tuesday. The SA state record for September is 40.5 and could well go,
as might the Victorian one of 35.6 and the NSW one of 38.9, in the
middle of next week.
I'll be offline for the next week or so. Enjoy the sunshine!
Blair Trewin
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From: "Max King" [mnk at zip.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney storms (22/8)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:13:17 +1000
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Hi Harald,
Would the wind backing form NW to S/SW immeditely behind the storm (which it
did) add any creedence to that theory?
Max.
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From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 1:49 AM
Subject: re: aus-wx: Sydney storms (22/8)
> Hi all,
>
> A look at Benn's radar loop of the recent Sydney storms,
>
> http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sydney/eventloop.gif
>
> shows an interesting development in the last few frames.
> Seems to me the ever backbuilding line of storms eventually
> forms a mesolow very near Sydney. Any surface obs that
> confirm this guess?
>
> Harald
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:25:44 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
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Hi Malcom,
Welcome to the list. Great stuff and excellent introduction. I will be
looking forward to meeting you. The next ASWA meeting will be the 2nd
Saturday of October which is the 9th October. Now I am also interested
whether you will attend the AMOS weatherwatch meeting next Wednesday night
at Macqurie University. I can send you the details again if you wish.
Jimmy Deguara
At 13:59 23/09/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>After lurking for a few weeks on the list (and having browsed through a few
>of the list archives for a few months), I thought I'd better introduce
>myself. :)
>
>Anyhow, my name is Malcolm Ninnes and I live at Wentworthville, in the
>Western Sydney area. I'm 23 years old, and used to live in sunny QLD until
>1997, when I moved down here and started doing unix sysadmin work for a
>large retail company. (wonder who?)
>
>Of particular interest to me is the formation of tornadoes, and also
>upper-level winds and how shear affects thunderstorm development. I guess
>my interest started just prior to 1992, which, incidentally, was when an F3
>tornado 'breezed' past my house in Maryborough, November (1992). Scary
>stuff!
>Since then I have chased to a very small extent to further study
>thunderstorm development, but have lacked the communication with others, and
>the knowledge that goes along with it ; hence joining this list (and most
>likely ASWA). I figured that I might as well use my work email address, as
>that's where I'll be most of the time, waiting for storms to develop (and
>itching to get out the door and in my car at 5pm!)
>
>Can't wait for the next ASWA meeting to put some faces/voices to the names
>that I have been reading about for so long on the mailing list.
>
>I've gotta say also that the storms moving over the sydney metro area last
>night were superb - the feeling of 'summer storm season' was definitely
>alive and well last night :) I left the office here in Strathfield around
>5.30pm just in time to see a weird roll cloud coming in, just in front of
>huge towers filled with lightning in front of a multicoloured sunset. It was
>even nicer heading eastbound on Parramatta road, loading up realtime radar
>loops on the laptop (never done that before!) then glancing periodically out
>the back window of the car and
>noticing a couple of large cells in tow :) Needless to say, I wasn't
>driving.
>Pea sized hailstones in Crows Nest around 8pm though, which left me
>wondering how the rest of Sydney was faring.
>
>Anyhow that's about it from me for now....
>
>
>Malcolm Ninnes
>Unix Systems Admin / Operations Support
>National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd
>Ph. (02) 9722-1862
>ninnesm at franklins.com.au
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:31:11 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chasing Saturday
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Now I will be heading somewhere tomorrow and hopefully can go with someone
else perhaps in the Hunter or maybe to the NW of Sydney near Mudgee or
whatever. I like the trough lines that are moving through. I wish there was
more upper level divergence though. The air just unstable and sending
storms up everywhere. Now the activity was observable from sunrise this
morning in the Hunter and to the NW. I think tomorrow, the activity may be
in the inland...
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:46:43 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Now I will be heading somewhere tomorrow and hopefully can go with someone
> else perhaps in the Hunter or maybe to the NW of Sydney near Mudgee or
> whatever. I like the trough lines that are moving through. I wish there was
> more upper level divergence though. The air just unstable and sending
> storms up everywhere. Now the activity was observable from sunrise this
> morning in the Hunter and to the NW. I think tomorrow, the activity may be
> in the inland...
Hi Jimmy & others,
I've been monitoring the AVN model for some weeks and it has been
very close to reality up to their 72hr forecast. AVN puts a trough
through Sth NSW today as well as through the Sydney to Mid North
coast area from tonight and staying in that vicinity throughout
Sat/Sun. I'm betting on not having to go too far away from Sydney
given the building that NE moisture can add coupled with a little
colder conditions aloft and that famous "Sydney Effect" that has
given great storms in the past...So much for a dry September and
probability for Y2000 Olympics. This looks like a spectacular
weekend of storms...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Blaxland Weather Station
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:02:18 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
I have hooked my Davis Weather Monitor II up to the net today. For all those
interested in seeing Blaxlands current weather conditions go to
www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/aws.htm
Alternatively you can go to www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/index.htm and scroll
down to Live Weather Observations. Also there is some trend graphs of the
last 24hrs accessible from that page.
I will try to have the online weather station running as much as possible
however it will not be online 24hrs a day as I do not have a permanent net
connection. The rainfall figures given are also not yet valid as I am going
to connect the rain guage this weekend.
Matthew Piper
P.S. Had some weak thundery showers pass by here today. Only heard a couple
of rumbles of thunder. At sunset there was a very impressive looking storm
on the northern horizon which I noticed on radar was over the Putty Rd area.
Took a photo of it with my new camera so it should be interesting to see how
it comes out.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:03:45 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Little Storm with nice bolts
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I was coming home from the pub this
arvo and I saw the last few trailing cumulus developing in a row moving
NE. When I turned off Richmond Road onto Grange Avenue, a bright
flash!!!! It can't be lightning as that is just a little pissy thing.
Well further down it happened again and then I saw a car following me...
And then it happened again whilst I was driving NW. What a great bolt of
lightning in clear air with nothing but the darkening sky although still
quite light. I couldn't stop so I charge home, ran up stairs set up the
video but nothing much happened except when I decided to turn off the
video camera!!!!!
By the way, the other night I thought the batteries were playing up!!!
Nope, the tape was set to non-writeable mode!!! My father had left the
tape like that. I missed some good lightning bolts from that night. Oh
well....
Jimymy Deguara
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Early taste of summer for South Eastern Australia
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:23:33 +1200
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>
> > Well it looks like winter has departed from SE Australia
... and moved to NZ. An active front is expected to cross the country next
Monday and Tuseday followed by a brief period of wintry southerlies, and
possibly snow to low levels in the south. Could be a repeat of this weeks
(Monday/Tuesday) wintry blast which saw (light) snow to about 300 metres in
the South Island, and on the North Island high country. BTW, we had
scattered thunder and hailstorms in Canterbury (but not Christchurch -
though thunder on Banks Peninsula) just prior to the wintry change on the
20th.
All models are in agreement that a huge high will become
> > cemented in the Tasman,
...and ridge onto NZ, so spring should soon return after this late taste of
winter.
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 04:32:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm Chasing Saturday
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Hi Jimmy,
Tomorrow seems to hold some promise. I will be going
on a chase tomorrow, if anything develops locally, as
I wont have time to get out of Sydney.
David
--- Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> Now I will be heading somewhere tomorrow and
> hopefully can go with someone
> else perhaps in the Hunter or maybe to the NW of
> Sydney near Mudgee or
> whatever. I like the trough lines that are moving
> through. I wish there was
> more upper level divergence though. The air just
> unstable and sending
> storms up everywhere. Now the activity was
> observable from sunrise this
> morning in the Hunter and to the NW. I think
> tomorrow, the activity may be
> in the inland...
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
>
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Newspaper article
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:31:10 +1000
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>That's unlikely unless the Northern News is part of the Fairfax or
>Packer group of papers. If it's an independant, then the artical
>will more than likely remain local to QLD people. Would someone
>be kind enough to scan the artical in and paste it up on the
>appropriate ASWA server for all people in ASWA to see?
Hi all
Well I found the article on page 4 in my local "Albert & Logan News" which
is part of the Quest Newspaper Group. I think it's only for around
Brisbane, but someone might prove me wrong.
Here's the article:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/temp/antsarticle.jpg
He did a very good job too. I hope Anthony doesn't mind me having his pic
shown to millions of people! hehehehe
Regards
James Chambers
Logan City
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney storms (22/8)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:32:25 +1000
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Thanx ben Just what I wanted.
John.
>snip
Hey John, Everyone..
I saved radar for Mathew and Dann while they were out chasing.. and i
compiled this loop of the storms..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/sydney/eventloop.gif
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney storms (22/8)
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:49:31 +1000
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Hi Max.
My interpretation is as follows...
Initially all cells moved ESE. An inidividual cell which originated near
Katoomba merged with a line of storms from West of Camden, around
Paramatta. At this point the cell intensified dramatically, and then moved
NE towards Avalon. This is what I would call a "left mover" and I believe
this indicates a cell which has
become sufficiently intense to exert control over the local atmosphere. At
the end of the loop, you can just see the NE movement lessen as the cell
weakens near Avalon. In the wake of this storm line another cell developed
near Penrith and then moved ESE to give a second event for the lower North
shore. This is quite unusual as the first line would usually kill off the
convective potential. The consistent ESE direction of this latter storm
would suggest there was no overall wind change at least in the middle
layers of the atmosphere.
But please feel free to rubbish this - any other/alternate interpretations
would be welcome.
John.
>snip
Hi Harald,
Would the wind backing form NW to S/SW immeditely behind the storm (which
it
did) add any creedence to that theory?
Max.
>
> shows an interesting development in the last few frames.
> Seems to me the ever backbuilding line of storms eventually
> forms a mesolow very near Sydney. Any surface obs that
> confirm this guess?
>
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