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001 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Storm Season 1999/2000 Underway
002 "ptera" [adderley at acay.com.au] Storm Season 1999/2000 Underway
003 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] 9AM Obs Error?
004 Paul Yole [vortex at wwdg.com] CB communication Database
005 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Lightning photography aperature
006 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Storm Season 1999/2000 Underway
007 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au 9AM Obs Error?
008 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] More Storms
009 Kevin Burrows [k.burrows at bom.gov.au] 9AM Obs Error?
010 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Storm to NW of Sydney
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. NCEP Operations "Toasted":-)
012 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Storm to NW of Sydney
013 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Olymipic Storm Warning!
014 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Olymipic Storm Warning!
015 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. ASWA Archive Requests Pending...
016 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au] september rain
017 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Olymipic Storm Warning!
018 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] NCEP Operations "Toasted":-)
019 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] More Storms
020 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Sydney.. again
021 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Sydney Storms
022 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] South Australian storms
023 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Olymipic Storm Warning!
024 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Extra show
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001
Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 00:01:05 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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12:01 October 1
..........BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't believe i made it through winter! But i have, and here we are..
this could possibly be one of the most photographed storm seasons in the
history of Australia!
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From: "ptera" [adderley at acay.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm Season 1999/2000 Underway
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:24:10 +1000
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> this could possibly be one of the most photographed storm seasons in the
> history of Australia!
hey, we're not just _talkin_ 'bout the weather..
Pics from Kilcare at midday Thursday 1 Oct.
overlooking Hawkesbury from Kilcare.
(includes pan shot)
http://www.acay.com.au/~adderley/cloud01
Also have a few shots looking north and south from Mangrove Mtn on Wednesday
just before sunset if anyone interested. (not loaded yet)
cheers,
ptera
(ps. still no word from Christian, the phamtom lightning snapper)
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: 9AM Obs Error?
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:47:34 +1000
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Hi all,
I guess you're all gonna tell me this is an error, what was the actual
observation likely to be?
...
Tidbinbilla 8 CALM ... Funnel cloud
...
Andrew.
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
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From: Paul Yole [vortex at wwdg.com]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:07:11 -0600
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Jane,
It's good to see CD handles starting up already. If anyone else wants to, I am willing to start up a database of this and put it online. Send ya handle to my email and I'll add it to the database. Is there anything that should be added to the database. All I can think at the moment is just name and call sign, but if anyone thinks of something, tell me.
Paul.
Paul Yole
Australian Severe Weather Member
Homepage: http://greenfield.fortunecity.com/dreams/238/
Email: vortex at wwdg.com
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning photography aperature
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:41:49 +1000
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Hi Mike and everyone,
Yep for sure. I agree with you also. Although, I can't say I've had much of an
opportunity to photograph close strikes. This both saddens and relieves me (for
the excitement and safety aspects, respectively).
Whilst I didn't capture anything on film, I certainly experienced a ripper
lightning display in Brisbane in January this year. We were at the local
look-out and the lightning was reaching the ground right in front of us about a
km or two away. I was thoroughly excited like I've never been before as I
thought I was getting it all on film, till I started feeling like I'd been
winding the film on for an awful long time; it felt like over 36 frames, so I
proceeded to check the film window on the camera (whilst growing increasingly
nervous), and... it was empty. I couldn't believe it. My heart just absolutely
sank. I felt so defeated and so intensely angry with myself, I just wanted to
scream. My face was red hot and I managed to withhold yelling out a wild
profanity as I was in the company of many other excited storm watchers. With
strongly gritted teeth I loaded the camera with a roll of film and waited. Well,
Murphy's Law can be applied here, as pretty much nothing happened after that;
certainly nothing of note. After a couple of years of chasing lightning and not
getting much in the way of decent photos, I thought my turn had finally come.
The lightning was perfect, right in frame, close to us, and I even had the
camera facing the right direction to capture a bolt striking a hill about 2 kms
in front of us which must have struck a transformer, as, for a full second or
two afterwards, there were three most magnificent, huge and brilliant glowing
balls of green, which seemed to light up the whole night sky. What a photo that
would've been. Darn it all! Oh well. I'm optomistic, and I wait in hope.
Sorry for rabbiting on, I seem to have gotten a little carried away!
Cheers,
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d
ICQ: 11790565
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Date: Wednesday, 29 September 1999 12:56
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning photography aperature
>Marty and all,
>
>I agree entirely with you about choosing different apertures for different
>situations.
>
>The other day I was getting lightning flashing within 2 km and I was getting it
on
>film.
>
>I (not through choice as I forgot to set it otherwise) had it set at 5.6 or 2
stops
>down.
>
>To have the shutter open right up on that type of lightning with a 100 asa film
>speed is going to mean the lightning channel is over exposed to the nth degree.
>
>But I have caught very close lightning with the aperture fully open on 100 asa
>negatives here
>
>http://strikeone.com.au/close/close.htm
>and this is not over exposed except the lightning channel itself.
>
>It really comes down, as you say, to what you want to get out of a lightning
>strike.
>
>Personally to me a lightning strike that has no depth of field (i.e. no
foreground)
>is out of balance and not as appealing. Hence I am more inclined to go for
>landscape as well as lightning and keep the aperture open more.
>
>and also I am not too concerned about the thickness of lightning as that
actually
>adds to the overall appeal from other peoples point of view anyway. Showing
people
>the "fattest" strikes always seem to get there attention more than the thin
ones.
>This is brought out in the fact that a lightning strike I took that was out of
>focus seems to be the more popular one simply as it is fatter in looks.
>
>The issue with Greg's lightning photos is that when you look at the negative
the
>area around the strike (the landscape) has not been developed. You are not able
to
>see the difference between the individual frames.
>
>It is this part I was explaining to him. You need to make sure that the film
around
>the strike is also exposed enough otherwise you suffer graininess when you try
to
>enlarge it as the crystals have not formed properly.
>
>All up the photo in question is very nice on computer and an achievement in
itself.
>But Greg will come away with this a better lightning photographer and I really
>admire his attitude that there is lots to learn in this field.
>
>I still am learning how to get that "Perfect" shot as well.
>
>I will tell you all whether I can celebrate a unique lightning strike I caught
the
>other night on film when I get them back today.
>
>I have learnt the hard way to never count your chickens before they hatch when
it
>comes to thinking you got it and actually getting it.
>
>Regards
>
>--
>Michael Fewings
>
>Photographer of:
>Strike One Lightning Photos
>http://strikeone.com.au
>
>Web Master of:
>Australian Severe Weather Association Inc.
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
>Marty wrote:
>
>> Hi Greg and everyone,
>>
>> While using the widest aperture will acheive a more highly exposed shot, it
>> certainly is not a 'mistake' to use a different aperture. I guess that's
where
>> it becomes an art, and individual taste will determine the exposure you want
>> (within the limits of your camera)!
>>
>> A wide aperture will certainly give you the most amount of lightning branch
>> detail, but you may want your main channel to look thinner purposely, so you
>> would use a smaller aperture. Another use for stopping down would be if the
>> lightning activity is close. Using a wide aperture will often over-expose the
>> shot, when it's the detail in the main channel that you want to retain.
>>
>> But, as always, it's a matter of personal taste. I thought photo number 5 was
>> pretty awesome too, so good on you! :)
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Marty.
>> Brisbane, Australia
>> martyp at dynamite.com.au
>> Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
>> Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
>> 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d
>> ICQ: 11790565
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Spencer
>> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> Date: Tuesday, 28 September 1999 0:22
>> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning pics
>>
>> >Michael
>> >
>> >Yeah, I think I was lukcy with that one. I had the camera settings
>> >almost right, also it was a really bright strike so it sorta overcame
>> >the half closed appeture, certainly a mistake I'll never make again :-)
>> >
>> >Regards
>> >
>> >Greg
>> >
>> >Michael Thompson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I bet you wish they would all come out like light5.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Greg Spencer
>> >> To:
>> >> Sent: Monday, 27 September 1999 1:42
>> >> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning pics
>> >>
>> >> > Hey peoples
>> >> >
>> >> > Well I got my lightning pics back today and I must say im a little
>> >> > dissappointed. I thought they would be better than they were :-(. I went
>> >> > to M. Fewings place after getting them developed for some advice on what
>> >> > I did wron and found that I didnt have the appeture wide enough plus I
>> >> > had the zoom angle too wide. I had it set between 28 and 50 for
>> >> > lightning that was about 10km away. I should have put the other lense on
>> >> > the camera and zoomed right in on the action. Oh well, i can only learn
>> >> > from my mistakes and get it right next time.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was lucky with getting 2 daytime shots. I have uploaded the best pics
>> >> > to a temp folder on the ASWA site since my own web site isnt working
>> >> > properly at the moment. Ther URLS are:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light1.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light2.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light3.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light4.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light5.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light6.jpg
>> >> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/temp/light7.jpg
>> >> >
>> >> > I have enlarged the strikes so a couple of them look grainy. IF anyone
>> >> > else has any tips on what else I may have done wrong, please let me know
>> >> > so I can get it right next time :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Greg
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Storm Season 1999/2000 Underway
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 12:06:36 +1000
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Yes Ben AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could be a HUGE year given the amount of unseasonal moisture that there
seems to be around. Mt. Crosby September rainfall total 79.4mm, probably
about twice the average for what is normally the driest month. But here
we are 1st Oct, and it even feels stickier this morning.
I notice no-one has mentioned the CH 9 5:30pm EXTRA show where we were
ON... last night. Oh Man, it must be even worse than I thought.... (I
can't believe I said what I did - and then to have it put as counterpoint
to the BoM spokesman,.... crawl, hide). :(
John
>snip
12:01 October 1
..........BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:27:09 +1000
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>I guess you're all gonna tell me this is an error, what was the actual
>observation likely to be?
>...
>Tidbinbilla 8 CALM ... Funnel cloud
>...
>Andrew.
Tidbinbilla is a nature reserve about 40km to the SW of Canberra.
Overnight we have had light rain periods with between 6 - 9mm recorded
around the city. There has been the usual stratus and scud associated with
such wx but no storms or Cb's.
I rang the Nature Reserve to confirm the reported observation and they
contacted the observer by radio. Both the observer and the person I spoke
to were intrigued (and amused?) by my inquiry (particularly when I mentioned
the possible "T" word associated with funnel clouds). They assured me that
all they had was a calm, overcast sky with the same light rain that was
falling elsewhere in the region.
At 11.30am, it is overcast with continuing rain periods in Canberra.
Patrick
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 12:40:44 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: More Storms
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Hi folks,
Well what the heck!! Why not pump a few more storms here near Sydney on
the mtns. There is already widespread activity from the NNW to the W and
some also developing to the N and SW at 12:30pm... Great stuff. I am unable
to catch up here. We have had so much action that I have had the report
started for the chase over the weekend and not finished even to half way!!!
Anyway, I will have it done.....................
Some day
Jimmy Deguara
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From: Kevin Burrows [k.burrows at bom.gov.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: 9AM Obs Error?
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Hi All,
The funnell cloud was indead reported by Tidbinbilla as their present
weather. I presume that this was either a wrongly coded message or a
message that was corrupted in transmission. The funnell cloud present
weather code is 19. Moderate intermittant drizzle was reported as past
weather but no precipitation.
The visibility at 9am was given as 500 metres so the correct present
weather could have been 49 which is "Fog at the time of observation, sky
invisible, depositing rime" Observers sometimes confuse depositing water
droplets with rime (which is ice).
I suggest that you contact the NSW Regional Forecasting Centre of the
Bureau of Meteorology and ask them if they have obtained the correct
present weather from the observer.
Kevin Burrows
At 11:27 01/10/1999 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>I guess you're all gonna tell me this is an error, what was the actual
>>observation likely to be?
>
>>...
>>Tidbinbilla 8 CALM ... Funnel cloud
>>...
>
>>Andrew.
>
>Tidbinbilla is a nature reserve about 40km to the SW of Canberra.
>Overnight we have had light rain periods with between 6 - 9mm recorded
>around the city. There has been the usual stratus and scud associated with
>such wx but no storms or Cb's.
>
>I rang the Nature Reserve to confirm the reported observation and they
>contacted the observer by radio. Both the observer and the person I spoke
>to were intrigued (and amused?) by my inquiry (particularly when I mentioned
>the possible "T" word associated with funnel clouds). They assured me that
>all they had was a calm, overcast sky with the same light rain that was
>falling elsewhere in the region.
>
>At 11.30am, it is overcast with continuing rain periods in Canberra.
>
>Patrick
>
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:25:21 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Storm to NW of Sydney
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There seems to be a major storm with heavy rain developing to the NW of
Sydney around Mt Tomah area or nearby. The haze has made photographs at
this point not as good. I am going to head out that way soon I just have to
do something first.
My mobile phone is 0408020468 if you want to update you with what is
happening out there. There are other storms developing but this is the
first of the day. It is slow moving and the winds aloft are very light
compared to middle levels. With the amount of moisture we have, the storm
should be a high rainfall event.
It is remarkable to think that a jet is needed to really stir things up but
it may be part of a system that can clear things out. WHich do we want????
Central border areas of NSW and Qld seems to be the area to chase. It would
be interesting to see how things go.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:01:27 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: NCEP Operations "Toasted":-)
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Since I download data/maps from READY for the AVN/MRF NCEP
models, I noticed that MRF fell behind at the 1999092700Z
initialisation with only a 7-day forecast run anticipated:-(
So I dived into NCEP operations at;
http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/getdscn.pl?product=NCEP+Operations
to discover that their Cray C90 super computer got "toasted"
the other day. I don't know which day but it was before
30/09/1999. Nevertheless, the Cray C90 at Suitland NWS campus
caught fire and the fire department put all these chemicals
over it to put the fire out. Silicon Graphics are responsible
for maintaining the Cray C90's. They determined that this
machine was a right-off...me thinks that with the spate of
failures around NCEP lately (this is but one of several),
that either the models are running too hot (sic) or they
need to accelerate the contract already awarded to IBM to
replace the Cray C90's...So any thoughts of an Australian
Weather mob picking up an ex-NCEP/NWS bargain have been
dashed-out by the Suitland Fire Department...NCEP are
literally in damage-control mode...Doesn't our BoM use
Cray C90's or some other Cray supercomputer of that
generation? I'd be looking carefully at the circumstances
surrounding NCEP's Cray-woes to make sure they don't
repeat here in Oz...such is life with computers as they
reach the end of their life...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 14:08:25 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> There seems to be a major storm with heavy rain developing to the NW of
> Sydney around Mt Tomah area or nearby.
Tracking SSE/SE toward Penrith/Camden and intensifying on the
radar significantly from 0320 to 0330Z mainly.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Olymipic Storm Warning!
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:54:32 +1000
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Going off, we haven't seen one of these before!!
Damaging hail has been reported, I'm sure several ppl are chasing...
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Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:19:01 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Andrew Miskelly wrote:
>
> Going off, we haven't seen one of these before!!
>
> Damaging hail has been reported, I'm sure several ppl are chasing...
No need to chase:-) Just take a look out my office window in the
city...Also, radar shows an impressive complex of cells currently
tracking from the NNW/NW to SSE/SW right across the Sydney metro
area.
No doubt, some more ASWA radar requests will follow...more mail
about that later.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:22:27 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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For those who have requested images from the archive that I keep
for ASWA, I have about 90% done and was about to ftp them to no
avail of the Telstra ftp-proxy server:-( I've put a report in
but I expect to have them ftp'd to the simplenet site on Tue
Oct 5, 1999. Sorry for the delay...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: september rain
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hey guys,
here's our readings for thew month, very dry as you can see. there were quite a few days with light rain, but not enuff to measure:(
September
July August September
1 41 0 0
2 0 0 0
3 0 0 1.5
4 0 0 0
5 0 0 0
6 0 1 0
7 0 0.5 0.5
8 0 0 0
9 21 0 0
10 0 0 2
11 8 0 0
12 0 0 0
13 0 0 0
14 0 0 0
15 2 0 0
16 0 0 0
17 0 0 0
18 0 0 0
19 0 0 0
20 0 0 0
21 0 0.5 0
22 0 3.5 1.5
23 0 0.5 0
24 13 21 0
25 0.5 0 0
26 15 1 0
27 4.5 ~ 14
28 0.5 ~ 6
29 7 49 5
30 0 5 0.5
31 0 0
112.5 82 31
cyas
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:37:40 +1000
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We're still waiting for some action in the Illawarra (which is quite amazing
in light of the past week) - I'm watching the cells which are developing
(and undeveloping) NW of Camden at the moment, they're the only ones that
have a chance of getting here.
Very nice storm out at Bowral in the last hour, might get down to Kiama but
seems to be weakening.
Hoping...
Andrew.
(Does anyone know how the traffic is on the Hume Highway to the SW of
Sydney?)
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
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Date: Friday, 1 October 1999 17:07
Subject: aus-wx: Olymipic Storm Warning!
>Going off, we haven't seen one of these before!!
>
>Damaging hail has been reported, I'm sure several ppl are chasing...
>
>
>--
>Andrew Miskelly
>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:46:06 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Michael, Everyone..
After reading some posts to other lists and information on the NCEP
websites.. it looks like our model runs could be a little chaotic over
the next week or so.. as usual the information bulletins they release
never really state clearly what is happening, but i think AVN will only
be updated twice daily instead of 4 times daily, and the resolution of
some models may be decreased? Not sure on the last one though..
I might add that AVN is all over the place at the moment.. while the
general MSLP pattern might be OK, the finer points like the LI's are
changing constantly.. makes it hard to forecast with..
Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> Since I download data/maps from READY for the AVN/MRF NCEP
> models, I noticed that MRF fell behind at the 1999092700Z
> initialisation with only a 7-day forecast run anticipated:-(
> So I dived into NCEP operations at;
>
> http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/getdscn.pl?product=NCEP+Operations
>
> to discover that their Cray C90 super computer got "toasted"
> the other day. I don't know which day but it was before
> 30/09/1999. Nevertheless, the Cray C90 at Suitland NWS campus
> caught fire and the fire department put all these chemicals
> over it to put the fire out. Silicon Graphics are responsible
> for maintaining the Cray C90's. They determined that this
> machine was a right-off...me thinks that with the spate of
> failures around NCEP lately (this is but one of several),
> that either the models are running too hot (sic) or they
> need to accelerate the contract already awarded to IBM to
> replace the Cray C90's...So any thoughts of an Australian
> Weather mob picking up an ex-NCEP/NWS bargain have been
> dashed-out by the Suitland Fire Department...NCEP are
> literally in damage-control mode...Doesn't our BoM use
> Cray C90's or some other Cray supercomputer of that
> generation? I'd be looking carefully at the circumstances
> surrounding NCEP's Cray-woes to make sure they don't
> repeat here in Oz...such is life with computers as they
> reach the end of their life...
>
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:06:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Storms
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--- Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Well what the heck!! Why not pump a few more storms
> here near Sydney on
> the mtns. There is already widespread activity from
> the NNW to the W and
> some also developing to the N and SW at 12:30pm...
Hi Jimmy and everyone,
Pump they did!.
I had the am radio tuned into my favourite lightning
station at work - at 4:30 pm static crackles were
virtually constant so I thought bugger it and just
took off (some experiments will just have to run until
Tuesday :)
The storm, at least when I first sighted it, was
probably over the Hills district with a nice shelf
cloud evident. Given the peak hour traffic, as well as
the fact that the storm was heading towards the north
shore, I decided to camp at a Gordon car park and just
watch it roll in. The CGs dropping from this storm
were even better than the 22/9 and were probably
comparable to the 14/4 supercell...very powerful bolts
dropping one after the other. The rain was very heavy
for quite some time so there was plenty of localised
flash flooding in the area.
I heard radio reports of hail damage in the
northwestern suburbs and wind damage somewhere else -
wasn't surprised based on the structure of the storm.
David
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2 interesting points first..
1)Ben's email "Bring it on" for the start of the storm season.
2)Jimmy and the turtle we saw yesterday, and he said it might be an
idication we are in for some wet weather..
Anyway my work shift was from 11am-6pm, so i was at work for the whole storm.
I managed to get outside just before 4.30 (i was by myself from 4pm-6pm)
after hearing on the radio there was a severe storm warning out for the
sydney met area.. (its one of the best things you can hear on the radio
when you dont expect it).. anyway i saw a nice cloud lowering and counted
my lucky stars when i remembered i had bought my camera/video camera to
work..i closed the shop for 10 minutes (shh dont tell anyone hehe) and took
some photos and set the video up inside the car to shoot while i was
inside..i think i taped an hour or so of the storm before the tape ran out..
but this cloud lowering had mean and nasty written all over it..i ran out
of film and went to the servo to by some, they only had kodak (yuck), but i
got it and took a few more pics..Heavy rain started around 5pmish i think..
it went for a good 20 minutes, very heavy and flash flooding everywhere (at
Fivedock).
Some great CG's pounding around etc, usual stuff i guess you could say..
Got out of work to a dissipating storm .. oh well, im glad Jimmy and James
Harris had a good chase, and Rune took some good video i hear as well!
And dare i say again.. some more tomorrow? :)
Matthew Smith
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Storms
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:49:59 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
I too observed the storms that swept across Sydney this evening. Got a
fantastic view of the cloud structure from work. Was watching the lightning
with a number of other work mates and when we went for drinks at Darling
Harbour it started to pour down with rain. I observed a lovely green tinge
to the clouds just before the storm hit and there was quite a few very close
lightning strikes. One of them was almost right on top of me and was
absolutely deafening.
Unfortunately I didnt get any pics as my camera was at home. Anyway
hopefully there will be more storms over the coming days to photograph. Glad
to see so many people out and about getting photos and film of this storm
from different vantage points. Cant wait until the next meeting to see the
mountain of footage and pics we have obtained from the last few weeks.
Matthew Piper
P.S. Its starting to pour down with rain here at Blaxland as I type this
(8:48pm).
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If I were living in Adelaide, I would keep track of the action that might
occur tomorrow.. The action near Ceduna is excellent and should be over
Adelaide tomorrow around the right time too.. We will see
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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It has been very frustrating here in the Illawarra, three days in a row
storms have formed around Bowral but have drifted S/SE along the southern
highlands, almost as if they knew the high ground route. They have been
coming off the highlands around Nowra, but in the same three days there has
been a mysterious 'no go' corridor in a line from Picton to Wollongong.
Still stormless Thompson !
Michael
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Sent: Sunday, 1 August 1999 17:37
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Olymipic Storm Warning!
> We're still waiting for some action in the Illawarra (which is quite
amazing
> in light of the past week) - I'm watching the cells which are developing
> (and undeveloping) NW of Camden at the moment, they're the only ones that
> have a chance of getting here.
>
> Very nice storm out at Bowral in the last hour, might get down to Kiama
but
> seems to be weakening.
>
> Hoping...
>
> Andrew.
>
> (Does anyone know how the traffic is on the Hume Highway to the SW of
> Sydney?)
>
> --
> Andrew Miskelly
> Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
> amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Miskelly
> To: AusWx
> Date: Friday, 1 October 1999 17:07
> Subject: aus-wx: Olymipic Storm Warning!
>
>
> >Going off, we haven't seen one of these before!!
> >
> >Damaging hail has been reported, I'm sure several ppl are chasing...
> >
> >
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> >Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Extra show
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:03:56 +1000
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>I notice no-one has mentioned the CH 9 5:30pm EXTRA show where we were
>ON... last night. Oh Man, it must be even worse than I thought.... (I
>can't believe I said what I did - and then to have it put as counterpoint
>to the BoM spokesman,.... crawl, hide). :(
>
>John
Hi John
I think it was a pretty good report though rather embarrassing on my behalf
(you know, that umbrella). That was a great adjective you used to describe
a storm...I just can't think of the word at the moment. Hey by the way, you
were actually John Woodridge in the story not Woodbridge!! Made me laugh.
Anyway see ya later everyone - I'll see some of the Qlders at the meeting
tomorrow.
Regards
James Chambers
P.S. I'm a tad jealous of those Sydney people with all the storms...but
don't worry...we'll better whatever you get this season!
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