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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) 002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Perhaps I should leave 003 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Fw: SPACECRAFT PROVIDES FIRST DIRECT EVIDENCE: SMOKE IN THE 004 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Fw: ANNUAL DEPLETION OF ANTARCTIC OZONE RESULTS ARE IN:'OZON 005 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] Perhaps I should leave (fwd) 006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) 007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Perhaps I should leave 008 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Possible good action for northern Victoria 009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) 010 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Some very low rainfall totals for year to date 011 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Perhaps I should leave 012 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Perhaps I should leave 013 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Perhaps I should leave 014 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Possible good action for northern Victoria 015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Perhaps I should leave 016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Perhaps I should leave (fwd) 017 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Severe Weather 018 "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au] Perhaps I should leave 019 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Severe Weather 020 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Severe Weather 021 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Possible good action for northern Victoria 022 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Severe Weather 023 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Severe Weather 024 "Max King" [mnk at zip.com.au] Severe Weather 025 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) 026 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Sunday - Central West NSW a good chance of severe on Sunday? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] Subject: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:08:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, The sounding you put out certainly does not scream 'tornado' at me. Surface moisture is marginal, and moisture depth is less than that. The 500-700 hPa lapse rate is also marginal. Biggest problem appears to be the shear - there is (virtually) none with 500 hPa winds at 15 kts and basically no surface flow. Maybe the marginal laspe rates (and attendant CAPE) whipped up an atmospheric meal at short notice later on. Harald ----- Forwarded message from Paul Graham ----- Hi everyone, I've put the October 4 morning sig-level sounding for Wagga - the day of the reported tornado near Boorowa (NNW of Yass) - at: http://marconi.careless.net/~paul/sigweather/wagga.jpg - Paul G. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----- End of forwarded message from Paul Graham ----- -- ------------------------------------------------------ Harald Richter Postdoctoral Research Associate Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences State University of New York at Albany 1400 Washington Avenue Albany, NY 12222 phone: (518) 442-4273 fax: (518) 442-4494 spatz at atmos.albany.edu http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/spatz/spatz.html ------------------------------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:17:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To all fellow Brisbanites. I have spent the majority of the last ten months in Brisbane, with barely a whisper from the skies since the end of the last storm season. From 9th to 12th September, I went to Canberra. On the 10th, there was a thunderstorm in Brisbane. I was most displeased at missing an event I have seemingly been waiting forever for. Last weekend I went to Melbourne. There was another storm in Brisbane. This I found to be most infuriating. My angst was exacerbated by the fact that I was booked to fly home on Monday night (the evening of the storm), but I cut my arrival at Melbourne airport just a bit too fine as it was hideously busy, and I consequently missed my flight, so I ended up flying out on the bright crisp sunny boring-as-hell Tuesday morning. I feel as if nature's pyrotechnicians are having quite an exhaustive giggle at my expense. My work collegues now insist that I inform them of my next weekend away so they can batton down the hatches. Should I go away again, I'd be happy to provide the list with an incredibly accurate thunderstorm forecast. It's soooo not fair!! Marty. Brisbane, Australia martyp at dynamite.com.au Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d ICQ: 11790565 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Fw: SPACECRAFT PROVIDES FIRST DIRECT EVIDENCE: SMOKE IN THE ATMOSPHERE INHIBITS RAINFALL Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:24:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi guys. Thought this may be of interest. It's a NASA press release. Marty. >RELEASE: 99-110 > >SPACECRAFT PROVIDES FIRST DIRECT EVIDENCE: >SMOKE IN THE ATMOSPHERE INHIBITS RAINFALL > > For the first time, researchers have proven that smoke from >forest fires inhibits rainfall. The findings, to be published in >the Oct. 15 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, are based on an >extensive analysis of data taken from NASA's Tropical Rainfall >Measuring Mission (TRMM) spacecraft. > > The study shows that the "warm rain" processes that often >create rain in tropical clouds are practically shut off when the >clouds are polluted with heavy smoke from forest fires. In these >clouds, scientists found, the cloud tops must grow considerably >above the freezing level (16,000 feet) in order for them to start >producing rain by an alternative mechanism. > > "We've seen evidence of decreased precipitation in clouds >contaminated by smoke, but it wasn't until now that we had direct >evidence showing that smoke actually suppresses precipitation >completely from certain clouds," said Dr. Daniel Rosenfeld, the >paper's author and a TRMM scientist at the Institute of Earth >Sciences, Hebrew University of Jerusalem. > > Scientists have a keen interest in how changes in global >precipitation affect human activities, such as crop production, >and the global rainfall weather pattern. More precise information >about rainfall and its variability is crucial to understanding the >global climate and predicting climate change. > > In his paper, Rosenfeld highlights one specific area: >Kalimantan, Indonesia. During the satellite's overpass on March >1, 1998, the southeastern portion of the island was engulfed in >smoke, while the northwestern portion was relatively smoke free. >The spacecraft's radar detected precipitation in smoke-free >clouds, but almost none in the smoke-plagued clouds, showing the >impact of smoke from fires on precipitation over the rainforest. > > "It's important to note that this is not a unique case," said >Rosenfeld. "We observed and documented several other cases that >showed similar behavior. In some instances even less severe smoke >concentration was found to have comparable impacts on clouds." > > This research further validates earlier studies on urban air >pollution showing that pollution in Manila, the Philippines, has >an effect similar to forest fires, according to Rosenfeld. > > "Findings such as these are making the first inroads into the >difficult problem of understanding humanity's impacts on global >precipitation," said Dr. Christian Kummerow, TRMM project >scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD. > > Raindrops in the atmosphere grow by two means. In the first, >called the "warm rain" process, a few cloud drops get large enough >to start falling. As they fall, they pick up other cloud drops >until they become big enough to fall to Earth as raindrops. > > The second process requires ice particles and water colder >than 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Ice particles surrounded by this >"supercooled" water may grow extremely rapidly as water freezes >onto the ice core. As these large ice particles fall, they >eventually melt and become raindrops. > > Scientists have known for some time that smoke from burning >vegetation suppresses rainfall, but did not know to what extent >until now. Thanks to TRMM observations, scientists are able to >see both precipitation and cloud droplets over large areas, >including clouds in and out of smoke plumes. > > TRMM has produced continuous data since December 1997. >Tropical rainfall, which falls between 35 degrees north latitude >and 35 degrees south latitude, comprises more than two-thirds of >the rainfall on Earth. > > TRMM is a U.S.-Japanese mission and part of NASA's Earth >Science Enterprise, a long-term research program designed to study >the Earth's land, oceans, air, ice and life as a total system. >Information and images from the TRMM mission are available on the >Internet at URL: > > http://trmm.gsfc.nasa.gov/ > > -end- > > * * * > >NASA press releases and other information are available automatically >by sending an Internet electronic mail message to domo at hq.nasa.gov. >In the body of the message (not the subject line) users should type >the words "subscribe press-release" (no quotes). The system will >reply with a confirmation via E-mail of each subscription. A second >automatic message will include additional information on the service. >NASA releases also are available via CompuServe using the command >GO NASA. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, address an E-mail >message to domo at hq.nasa.gov, leave the subject blank, and type only >"unsubscribe press-release" (no quotes) in the body of the message. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Fw: ANNUAL DEPLETION OF ANTARCTIC OZONE RESULTS ARE IN:'OZONE HOLE' SMALLER THAN LAST YEAR Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:33:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got another good one today, too. It's another NASA press release which is loosely related to weather. >RELEASE: 99-116 > >ANNUAL DEPLETION OF ANTARCTIC OZONE RESULTS ARE IN: >'OZONE HOLE' SMALLER THAN LAST YEAR > > A NASA satellite has shown that the area of ozone depletion >over the Antarctic -- the well-known ozone "hole" -- is a bit less >in 1999 than it was last year. > > "This Antarctic year's ozone depletion area, or ozone 'hole,' >is very large, but slightly smaller than that of 1998," said Dr. >Richard McPeters, principal investigator for the instrument that >made the measurements. > > This year's study found that an ozone "low" had formed >between New Zealand and Antarctica on Sept. 17. This sort of >ozone low, commonly referred to as a "mini-hole," is a result of >the redistribution of ozone by a large weather system. The "mini- >hole" moved eastward along the rim of the Antarctic "ozone hole" >for a number of days after Sept. 17. > > Preliminary data from the satellite show that this year's >Antarctic ozone depletion covered 9.8 million square miles on >Sept. 15. The record area of Antarctic ozone depletion of 10.5 >million square miles was set on Sept. 19, 1998. > > The ozone levels are expected to decrease over the next two >weeks. The lowest amount of total-column ozone recorded to date >this year was 92 Dobson Units on Oct. 1. In contrast, ozone >levels of 90 Dobson Units were observed at one point last year. >Dobson units measure how thick the ozone layer would be if all the >overhead ozone molecules in a column of atmosphere could be >brought down to the Earth's surface. > > Globally, the ozone layer averages approximately 300 Dobson >Units, which would correspond to a layer about 1/8th of an inch (3 >millimeters) thick at the Earth's surface, about the thickness of >two stacked pennies. In contrast, during the annual Antarctic >ozone "hole," the amount of ozone in the ozone "hole" is about 100 >Dobson Units, about 1/25th of an inch, or approximately the >thickness of a single dime. > > The slightly decreased size of the ozone "hole" from last >year is not an indication of the recovery of Antarctic ozone >levels. The current year-to-year variations of size and depth of >the ozone "hole" depend primarily on the variations in >meteorological conditions. > > The Antarctic ozone losses are caused by chlorine and bromine >compounds released by chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and halons. Due >to international treaties regulating the production of these >gases, the amount of chlorine in the stratosphere is close to >maximum value and, in some regions, is beginning to decline. In >the next century, chlorine-induced ozone losses will be reduced as >chlorine amounts throughout the stratosphere decline, and ozone >levels will begin to recover. The actual rate of recovery will >likely be affected by the increasing abundance of greenhouse gases >in the atmosphere. Detecting the recovery of the ozone hole will >require a number of years of measurements. > > Ozone molecules, made up of three atoms of oxygen, comprise a >thin layer of the atmosphere that absorbs harmful ultraviolet >radiation from the Sun. Most atmospheric ozone is found between 6 >and 18 miles above the Earth's surface. > > Ozone shields life on Earth from the harmful effects of the >Sun's ultraviolet radiation. Scientists and others have a keen >interest in ozone depletion. Increased amounts of ultraviolet >radiation that reach the Earth's surface due to ozone loss might >increase the incidence of skin cancer and cataracts in humans, >depress the human immune system, harm some crops and interfere >with marine life. > > These measurements were obtained between mid-August and early >October using the Total Ozone Mapping Spectrometer (TOMS) >instrument aboard NASA's Earth Probe (TOMS-EP) satellite. NASA >instruments have been measuring Antarctic ozone levels since the >early 1970s. Since the discovery of the ozone "hole" in 1985, >TOMS has been a key instrument for monitoring ozone levels over >the Earth. > > TOMS ozone data and pictures are available on the Internet: > > http://toms.gsfc.nasa.gov or http://pao.gsfc.nasa.gov/ > > TOMS-EP and other ozone-measurement programs are important >parts of a global environmental effort of NASA's Earth Science >enterprise, a long-term research program designed to study Earth's >land, oceans, atmosphere, ice and life as a total integrated >system. > -end- > > * * * > >NASA press releases and other information are available automatically >by sending an Internet electronic mail message to domo at hq.nasa.gov. >In the body of the message (not the subject line) users should type >the words "subscribe press-release" (no quotes). The system will >reply with a confirmation via E-mail of each subscription. A second >automatic message will include additional information on the service. >NASA releases also are available via CompuServe using the command >GO NASA. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, address an E-mail >message to domo at hq.nasa.gov, leave the subject blank, and type only >"unsubscribe press-release" (no quotes) in the body of the message. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] Subject: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:53:13 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Marty, You are suffering from what I tend to call the 'Lance effect', named after my boss. Wherever he goes, clear skies follow him. Over several years now people in the Southern Plain States of the US have been running for their lives during their tornado season although the fix is so incredibly easy: Lance flies down there, the skies clear, even most of the cirrus clears out. Congratulations on your abilities, Marty. If we position you and Lance just right on our globe, I know where I'd like to be: far far away from both of you :) :) Under clear skies [boss is in today], Harald ----- Forwarded message from Marty ----- >From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Thu Oct 7 14:36:16 1999 Message-ID: <006501bf10ce$bc697b00$34b83ecb at acercust> From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] To all fellow Brisbanites. I have spent the majority of the last ten months in Brisbane, with barely a whisper from the skies since the end of the last storm season. From 9th to 12th September, I went to Canberra. On the 10th, there was a thunderstorm in Brisbane. I was most displeased at missing an event I have seemingly been waiting forever for. Last weekend I went to Melbourne. There was another storm in Brisbane. This I found to be most infuriating. My angst was exacerbated by the fact that I was booked to fly home on Monday night (the evening of the storm), but I cut my arrival at Melbourne airport just a bit too fine as it was hideously busy, and I consequently missed my flight, so I ended up flying out on the bright crisp sunny boring-as-hell Tuesday morning. I feel as if nature's pyrotechnicians are having quite an exhaustive giggle at my expense. My work collegues now insist that I inform them of my next weekend away so they can batton down the hatches. Should I go away again, I'd be happy to provide the list with an incredibly accurate thunderstorm forecast. It's soooo not fair!! Marty. Brisbane, Australia martyp at dynamite.com.au Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d ICQ: 11790565 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ----- End of forwarded message from Marty ----- -- ------------------------------------------------------ Harald Richter Postdoctoral Research Associate Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences State University of New York at Albany 1400 Washington Avenue Albany, NY 12222 phone: (518) 442-4273 fax: (518) 442-4494 spatz at atmos.albany.edu http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/spatz/spatz.html ------------------------------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 06:41:29 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald and all, > Hi Paul, > > The sounding you put out certainly does not > scream 'tornado' at me. Surface moisture is marginal, and > moisture depth is less than that. The 500-700 hPa > lapse rate is also marginal. Biggest problem > appears to be the shear - there is (virtually) none > with 500 hPa winds at 15 kts and basically no surface > flow. Maybe the marginal laspe rates (and attendant > CAPE) whipped up an atmospheric meal at > short notice later on. I certainly agree with you that that particular sounding, did not 'scream' a tornado at all. However - the sounding was taken at 9am, and the tornado was reported at around 2:30pm - does anyone know the maximum temperature of Wagga on this day? This could certainly have a different effect, and more moisture could have come through during the day, because as you know - 5.5hrs can certainly change a lot of things meteorologically. Although, the shear is still a bit of a worry. An interesting report though...I look forward to seeing the photos! -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 007 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 07:02:47 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I hereby donate $50 to the "Send Marty Away Fund" - now, if the other 20+ QLD members donate $50 too, we could give Marty a one way ticket to say...Africa! People attending the Nov-Dec storm chase may also be interested in donating money! JKA! (Just Kidding Around)-- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:33:48 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Possible good action for northern Victoria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, the Vics have finally got the possibility of some excellent action particularly on Sunday but keep watch of Saturday. However, the ingredient they need is surface moisture and anyone that decides to chase along the dry air and moist air boundary - bingo!!! Hopefully, you also don't have too much mid-level moisture. You need extremely dry air in the middle layers which I think will happen with a NW wind!!! If I were a Victorian, I would travel in the north Central district. Heck that is only 3 hours of driving on Victorian Roads!!!! Jimmy Deguara I may chase further to the SW of Sydney on Sunday +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:49:44 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > I certainly agree with you that that particular sounding, did not > 'scream' a tornado at all. However - the sounding was taken at 9am, and > the tornado was reported at around 2:30pm - does anyone know the maximum > temperature of Wagga on this day? This could certainly have a different > effect, and more moisture could have come through during the day, > because as you know - 5.5hrs can certainly change a lot of things > meteorologically. Although, the shear is still a bit of a worry. Maximum temperature at Wagga on this day was 22.4. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Some very low rainfall totals for year to date To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:19:06 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some very low rainfall totals for the 9 months January-September: Marree 29.5 Alice Springs 55.4 Ceduna 117.2 Birdsville 59.2 Boulia 72.8 The lowest total I could find from a real-time reporting station was 17.8mm at Kalamurina, about halfway between Marree and Birdsville. I haven't analysed these to see if station records are under threat, although my recollection is that Alice Springs' lowest annual total is in the sixties. The question of what the lowest annual rainfall total on record for an Australian station is is probably unanswerable, because of rampant under-reporting of small rainfall amounts. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 11:28:09 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought maybe that it was a case of Rain-Gods & Sun-Gods. For a while I was convinced I was a Sun-God. Every storm I watched seemed to split and go around my location and they still do. But now I feel it is just a natural application of Murphy's Law. The more you want something to happen, the less likely it is and vice versa. But... Looking at his photo's I guess maybe Michael Bath is a Rain God. Must go with the surname . John. >snip I hereby donate $50 to the "Send Marty Away Fund" - now, if the other 20+ QLD members donate $50 too, we could give Marty a one way ticket to say...Africa! People attending the Nov-Dec storm chase may also be interested in donating money! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 12:00:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, I really do believe it's Murphy at work. I get the same thing - if I'm in Wollongong, it's snowing in Taralga, and if I'm in Taralga there's an ECL battering Wollongong! And I often watch a series of Anvil Tops wafting accross the Central Tablelands just north of where I am in Taralga or (as Michael T often points out) through the Metro while it's dry in 'gong! Andrew. -- Andrew Miskelly Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW amiskelly at ozemail.com.au -----Original Message----- From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com' [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Date: Friday, 8 October 1999 11:44 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave >I thought maybe that it was a case of Rain-Gods & Sun-Gods. For a while I >was convinced I was a Sun-God. Every storm I watched seemed to split and >go around my location and they still do. But now I feel it is just a >natural application of Murphy's Law. The more you want something to >happen, the less likely it is and vice versa. But... Looking at his >photo's I guess maybe Michael Bath is a Rain God. Must go with the surname > . > >John. >>snip > >I hereby donate $50 to the "Send Marty Away Fund" - now, if the other >20+ QLD members donate $50 too, we could give Marty a one way ticket to >say...Africa! People attending the Nov-Dec storm chase may also be >interested in donating money! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:53:45 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. Sounds a little like the storm chasers who went to the NT to get some storms and: a) Missed out on a huge storm the night before that had decent winds, heavy rain and heaps of lightning b) had NIL storms for the 13 days that they were in the NT!!! But at least we had a Cat 5 Trop Cyc! That was worth it - had always wanted to experience one of them - even if it was the outer edge! Paul at Port Soon to be Darwin Northern Territory (where the "build up" is starting to kick in!) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.11] From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible good action for northern Victoria Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 13:39:03 EST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, Gee, I hope you're right! My camera's been loaded for five months now! Very warm and sunny here today with a moderate northerly wind. Looks like being even warmer tomorrow...but we need some moisture bad (not just for storm genesis!) Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Possible good action for northern Victoria >Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 08:33:48 +1000 > >Well, the Vics have finally got the possibility of some excellent action >particularly on Sunday but keep watch of Saturday. However, the ingredient >they need is surface moisture and anyone that decides to chase along the >dry air and moist air boundary - bingo!!! Hopefully, you also don't have >too much mid-level moisture. You need extremely dry air in the middle >layers which I think will happen with a NW wind!!! > >If I were a Victorian, I would travel in the north Central district. Heck >that is only 3 hours of driving on Victorian Roads!!!! > >Jimmy Deguara I may chase further to the SW of Sydney on Sunday > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:47:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am really convinced the seabreeze is number one culprit for keeping the storms at bay in the 'gong. Followed next is the lack in the Illawarra of a great heat sink like Sydney's western suburbs. Michael > Yes, I really do believe it's Murphy at work. I get the same thing - if I'm > in Wollongong, it's snowing in Taralga, and if I'm in Taralga there's an ECL > battering Wollongong! And I often watch a series of Anvil Tops wafting > accross the Central Tablelands just north of where I am in Taralga or (as > Michael T often points out) through the Metro while it's dry in 'gong! > > Andrew. > > -- > Andrew Miskelly > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW > amiskelly at ozemail.com.au > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Woodbridge > To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com' > Date: Friday, 8 October 1999 11:44 > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave > > > >I thought maybe that it was a case of Rain-Gods & Sun-Gods. For a while I > >was convinced I was a Sun-God. Every storm I watched seemed to split and > >go around my location and they still do. But now I feel it is just a > >natural application of Murphy's Law. The more you want something to > >happen, the less likely it is and vice versa. But... Looking at his > >photo's I guess maybe Michael Bath is a Rain God. Must go with the surname > > . > > > >John. > >>snip > > > >I hereby donate $50 to the "Send Marty Away Fund" - now, if the other > >20+ QLD members donate $50 too, we could give Marty a one way ticket to > >say...Africa! People attending the Nov-Dec storm chase may also be > >interested in donating money! > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 016 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave (fwd) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 13:43:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I tend to have strato-cumulus follow me around. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] To: Australian Severe Weather Association [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Friday, 8 October 1999 0:53 Subject: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave (fwd) > Marty, > > You are suffering from what I tend to call the 'Lance effect', > named after my boss. Wherever he goes, clear skies follow him. > Over several years now people in the Southern Plain States > of the US have been running for their lives during their > tornado season although the fix is so incredibly easy: Lance > flies down there, the skies clear, even most of the > cirrus clears out. > > Congratulations on your abilities, Marty. If we > position you and Lance just right on our globe, I know > where I'd like to be: far far away from both of you :) :) > > Under clear skies [boss is in today], Harald > > > > > > ----- Forwarded message from Marty ----- > > >From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Thu Oct 7 14:36:16 1999 > Message-ID: <006501bf10ce$bc697b00$34b83ecb at acercust> > From: "Marty" > To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" > Subject: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:17:46 +1000 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 > Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > Precedence: list > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > [Charset iso-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > To all fellow Brisbanites. > > I have spent the majority of the last ten months in Brisbane, with barely a > whisper from the skies since the end of the last storm season. From 9th to 12th > September, I went to Canberra. On the 10th, there was a thunderstorm in > Brisbane. I was most displeased at missing an event I have seemingly been > waiting forever for. Last weekend I went to Melbourne. There was another storm > in Brisbane. This I found to be most infuriating. My angst was exacerbated by > the fact that I was booked to fly home on Monday night (the evening of the > storm), but I cut my arrival at Melbourne airport just a bit too fine as it was > hideously busy, and I consequently missed my flight, so I ended up flying out on > the bright crisp sunny boring-as-hell Tuesday morning. I feel as if nature's > pyrotechnicians are having quite an exhaustive giggle at my expense. My work > collegues now insist that I inform them of my next weekend away so they can > batton down the hatches. Should I go away again, I'd be happy to provide the > list with an incredibly accurate thunderstorm forecast. > > It's soooo not fair!! > > Marty. > Brisbane, Australia > martyp at dynamite.com.au > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d > ICQ: 11790565 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ----- End of forwarded message from Marty ----- > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > Harald Richter > Postdoctoral Research Associate > Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences > State University of New York at Albany > 1400 Washington Avenue > Albany, NY 12222 > phone: (518) 442-4273 fax: (518) 442-4494 > spatz at atmos.albany.edu > http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/spatz/spatz.html > ------------------------------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:02:32 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. Paul at Port. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:19:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Marty [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: Aussie Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 12:17 AM Subject: aus-wx: Perhaps I should leave > To all fellow Brisbanites. > > I have spent the majority of the last ten months in Brisbane, with barely a > whisper from the skies since the end of the last storm season. From 9th to 12th > September, I went to Canberra. On the 10th, there was a thunderstorm in > Brisbane. I was most displeased at missing an event I have seemingly been > waiting forever for. Last weekend I went to Melbourne. There was another storm > in Brisbane. This I found to be most infuriating. My angst was exacerbated by > the fact that I was booked to fly home on Monday night (the evening of the > storm), but I cut my arrival at Melbourne airport just a bit too fine as it was > hideously busy, and I consequently missed my flight, so I ended up flying out on > the bright crisp sunny boring-as-hell Tuesday morning. I feel as if nature's > pyrotechnicians are having quite an exhaustive giggle at my expense. My work > collegues now insist that I inform them of my next weekend away so they can > batton down the hatches. Should I go away again, I'd be happy to provide the > list with an incredibly accurate thunderstorm forecast. > > It's soooo not fair!! > > Marty. > Brisbane, Australia > martyp at dynamite.com.au > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d > ICQ: 11790565 Hey Marty, Are you sure your surname's not Murphy?????? hehehe John from Ballina +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:32:28 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through > a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know > where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to > 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. > > Paul at Port. This will be Perth - they had winds of up to 113 km/h (at Rottnest Island) overnight, associated with a deep low just south of the coast. As far as I can tell, the damage is the sort of small-scale stuff you'd expect with winds of that strength. Also some good rainfalls - Perth got 38mm, and quite a few places were close to 50. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 12:28:05 +0800 From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul and others, Its in WA and its actually spelt Moora and is a town 150 km to the north of Perth :) They would have had the same winds we had here yesterday. There was some structural damage all across the SW of the state yesterday as we had gusts in excess of 100 km/h over much of the SW including Perth for a period of about 12 hours. The barometric pressure got down to 989 hPa in Albany yesterday afternoon and 994 hPa in Mandurah (about 50 km south of Perth) and about 997 in Perth. I don't have statistics on the maximum recorded wind gusts but I am sure that someone on the list would have access to these. It was the best winter system we have had this year but not in winter. Things slowly coming back to normal now (if you can call sunny normal for this time of year) Regards -- Michael Fewings Photographer of: Strike One Lightning Photos http://strikeone.com.au Web Master of: Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. http://www.severeweather.asn.au All up now Perth has had about 65 mm out of this system. Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote: > I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through > a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know > where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to > 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. > > Paul at Port. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 021 Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:31:59 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible good action for northern Victoria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane here.. All models have a nice shortwave upper level trough moving through VIC on Sunday.. these shortwaves are the ones you should watch out for.. they can really turn an ordinary trough system into a major storm producing system.. MRF (Thursdays run) also points to overnight storms for Melbourne on Saturday.. continuing into Sunday, although maybe more likely east of Melbourne on Sunday.. It will be interesting to see how this all unfolds.. the winds throughout the atmosphere are nice and strong, so i wouldn't be surprised at some organised activity.. if not severe storms somewhere in VIC from this system.. Todays EC run is also showing a deep trough over western QLD and NSW mid next week.. Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Well, the Vics have finally got the possibility of some excellent action > particularly on Sunday but keep watch of Saturday. However, the ingredient > they need is surface moisture and anyone that decides to chase along the > dry air and moist air boundary - bingo!!! Hopefully, you also don't have > too much mid-level moisture. You need extremely dry air in the middle > layers which I think will happen with a NW wind!!! > > If I were a Victorian, I would travel in the north Central district. Heck > that is only 3 hours of driving on Victorian Roads!!!! > > Jimmy Deguara I may chase further to the SW of Sydney on Sunday > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 022 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:38:34 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanx Blair - sounds like they had an interesting night! Blair Trewin on 08/10/99 02:32:28 PM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather > > > > I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through > a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know > where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to > 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. > > Paul at Port. This will be Perth - they had winds of up to 113 km/h (at Rottnest Island) overnight, associated with a deep low just south of the coast. As far as I can tell, the damage is the sort of small-scale stuff you'd expect with winds of that strength. Also some good rainfalls - Perth got 38mm, and quite a few places were close to 50. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 023 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 14:42:50 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sound like you had some fun Mike. It looked very intense on the weather 21 satpic animation - lovely spiral action with some embedded TS - very nice - unlike here where it is just beaut and sunny! Boring really.......... Paul at Port. Michael Fewings on 08/10/99 02:28:05 PM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Paul and others, Its in WA and its actually spelt Moora and is a town 150 km to the north of Perth :) They would have had the same winds we had here yesterday. There was some structural damage all across the SW of the state yesterday as we had gusts in excess of 100 km/h over much of the SW including Perth for a period of about 12 hours. The barometric pressure got down to 989 hPa in Albany yesterday afternoon and 994 hPa in Mandurah (about 50 km south of Perth) and about 997 in Perth. I don't have statistics on the maximum recorded wind gusts but I am sure that someone on the list would have access to these. It was the best winter system we have had this year but not in winter. Things slowly coming back to normal now (if you can call sunny normal for this time of year) Regards -- Michael Fewings Photographer of: Strike One Lightning Photos http://strikeone.com.au Web Master of: Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. http://www.severeweather.asn.au All up now Perth has had about 65 mm out of this system. Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote: > I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through > a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know > where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to > 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. > > Paul at Port. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 024 From: "Max King" [mnk at zip.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Weather Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 20:11:30 +1000 Organization: U Bute Enterprizes X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all :) PERTH Paul :) ----- Original Message ----- From: [Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 2:02 PM Subject: aus-wx: Severe Weather > > > I have just heard reports on the radio news about savage storms ripping through > a city in Australia? The only suburb I heard mentioned was Morah?? Anyone know > where and when these storms hit? The radio were talking about winds up to > 100km/h being reported causing reasonable structure damage. > > Paul at Port. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 025 X-Originating-IP: [210.84.6.58] From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 03:10:11 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald & Co, I put the Wagga sounding there mainly because the UWYO site was down and people may have been curious to see what the stability/moisture/wind for the station closest to where the tornado was reported. Certainly, the sounding is far from the type you would expect for tornadic storms so, if indeed the report of a tornado is correct, it was most most likely a non-supercell type. - Paul. >From: Harald Richter >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) >Subject: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... (fwd) >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:08:26 +0000 (GMT) > >Hi Paul, > > The sounding you put out certainly does not >scream 'tornado' at me. Surface moisture is marginal, and >moisture depth is less than that. The 500-700 hPa >lapse rate is also marginal. Biggest problem >appears to be the shear - there is (virtually) none >with 500 hPa winds at 15 kts and basically no surface >flow. Maybe the marginal laspe rates (and attendant >CAPE) whipped up an atmospheric meal at >short notice later on. > >Harald > > > > >----- Forwarded message from Paul Graham ----- > >From aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Thu Oct 7 06:26:50 1999 >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:19:01 -0500 (CDT) >From: Paul Graham >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: 4th October Wagga Sounding... >Message-ID: >Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >Precedence: list >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Hi everyone, > I've put the October 4 morning sig-level sounding for Wagga - >the day of the reported tornado near Boorowa (NNW of Yass) - at: >http://marconi.careless.net/~paul/sigweather/wagga.jpg >- Paul G. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >----- End of forwarded message from Paul Graham ----- > >-- >------------------------------------------------------ >Harald Richter >Postdoctoral Research Associate >Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences >State University of New York at Albany >1400 Washington Avenue >Albany, NY 12222 >phone: (518) 442-4273 fax: (518) 442-4494 >spatz at atmos.albany.edu >http://www.atmos.albany.edu/facstaff/spatz/spatz.html >------------------------------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 026 From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Sunday - Central West NSW a good chance of severe on Sunday? Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 21:40:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just doing a bit of model playing and have noticed that the AVN manual plot site ( you know the one you do the custom maps on ) http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_avn.sh now has CAPE. Interesting little concentration of around 1300 CAPE near Cowra / Young mid afternoon on Sunday, another one in NE Victoria. The upper level winds also look better with around 90knots of W at the 200mb level, there is close to a 45' shear from surface which has N winds predicted, perhaps not enough for rotation, but better then the stuff I seen lately. All this and I cannot chase as my wife is due to have a baby any minute. actually due today ).\ The others probably already know about the CAPE being available. One tip which I know most of you already is to select a custom map, for SE Australia select custom and use the following parameters Long 140' Long Length 20', Latitude = minus 40', Lat Height 20', this way you get a finer scale too. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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