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001 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
002 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] The weekend in Canberra
003 Dion Williams [onamission at start.com.au] Energex lightning tracker down?
004 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Electrical Storms
005 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Energex lightning tracker down?
006 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Electrical Storms
007 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Storm Chase
008 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] ASWA Weekly Newsletter
009 "Halden Boyd" [haldenboyd at hotmail.com] Decipering Sydney Lightning Tracker
010 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at pacific.net.au] Hail in Ashwood
011 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Energex lightning tracker down?
012 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au] grafton weekend and photos
013 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Common sayings
014 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Strahan Weather
015 "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au] Lightning tracker back up
016 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] 30 million dollar hail storm
017 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Vantage Points Database
018 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
019 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
020 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
021 "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au] New Sydney Obs sites
022 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
023 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Vantage Points Database
024 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Illawarra Flash Flood possible 10Mil$ damage
025 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
026 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Vantage Points Database
027 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Sydney hailstorms on Sunday
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001
From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:36:59 +1000
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>Michael raises an interesting point about the issuing of warnings - it
would be
>interesting to know when the Illawarra was put on alert - I understand that
it
>was definitely about midnight on Saturday night - with the first calls for
help
>to Council engineers/SES about 8.00am on Sunday down in the Dapto area
>
A flood alert was issued by the BoM at 1048 Aust Eastern Time on Saturday 23
October for all coastal rivers Sydney and south to the Victorian border.
Patrick
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: The weekend in Canberra
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:33:55 +1000
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Blair,
Firstly, thanks for letting the list know about the snow events seminar - I
found it most interesting (please let me know about getting copies of the
slides).
>By the way, there's a new synoptic station opening in Canberra this
>week - at the new vineyard west of Holt. It seems quite an exposed
>location (although I don't know the precise details of the site) on
>top of a ridge, so I'd expect that the minimum temperatures would
>be somewhat higher than those at the airport or Tuggeranong.
>
This station is about 2km to the west of where I live - so I will be
extremely interested in its figures. The vineyard is up on a ridge in
undulating country. The ground slopes away quite rapidly to the west, NW and
South (into the Molonglo and Murrumbidgee rivers). A bit further west (about
10km) the main Brindabellas rise up to 1200-1400m.
Based on what I record in Higgins, I would expect this station to record
more rain than the airport in most situations and particularly with any
event coming from the west; winter minima of 2-3 degrees above the airport
and Tuggeranong and maxima 1-2 degrees lower than the airport. Summer temps
may be slightly higher - it will be interesting to see.
Patrick
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:59:59 +1000
From: Dion Williams [onamission at start.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Energex lightning tracker down?
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Is it just me or has the Energex SE Qld lightning tracker been down
since 11am Monday?
Dion
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Electrical Storms
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:44:30 +1000
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Yo Ben & Others,
I actually sent something like this email Sunday night, but it has so far
failed to turn up on the list...
So a retry...
After a wet and uncomfortably cold weekend in Sydney, I flew
Sydney->Brisbane Sunday night leaving Sydney at 7:30pm. I was fortunate
enough to score a window seat on the right hand side of the aircraft
(starboard), purely by chance. And what a sight!!! I was treated to the
second best display of storm activity I have seen from the air. A clean
unbroken line of storms lay out to sea and approximately parallel to the
coast from around Taree all the way to the Gold Coast. Every 20-30km along
the line was an intense cell with lightning ranging from 1 per 5 secs to 1
per sec, depending on the cell. The activity appeared to get better
farther North, with the best cell off Ballina. The anvils from all storms
merged together in a continuous cloud bank, with overshoots above the
intense cells. Interesting how different anvil crawlers look when you're
at 28,000 feet - they really highlight the boiling anvil tops :)
At 8:30pm, the line ended just off Southport, with a new cell showing
backshearing with a classic flanking line extending all the way back into
Moreton Bay. There was a full moon, so the entire structure was quite
clear and appeared beautifully superimposed in 3d relief on a moonlit
Ocean.
I believe this storm line was an extension of a quite nice guster and rain
curtain which came through the North Shore in Sydney around 3:15pm, and
which to me appeared to represent a cold front, delivering a quick
temperature drop with winds backing SW. The Sunday 12UTC IR Sat Pic, shows
this line having moved well out to sea, with the Northern most extension
evident as a storm line crossing the coast South of Fraser Island.
Meantime it is interesting to note that while Ipswich may have gotton some
nice hail on Sunday, nothing materialised at Mt. Crosby 11km north. In
fact, after the emphatic forecasts of the previous week, from both the BoM
and (sigh) the BSCH site, for showers tending to rain periods with storms,
lasting at least 24 hours (originally Thursday, then Friday, the Friday
night/Saturday), my 7 day rainfall figure for Mt. Crosby to 9:00am this
morning is a humungous 0.0mm. Not a measurable drop. But of course I was
in Sydney, which is where it did rain, in fact it pissed down. Maybe I am
a rain god after all...
John.
>snip
Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Just when i thought the storms had cleared, a line of electrical storms
has developed in line NE of Brisbane.. the line cuts the coast around
the northern end of the Sunshine coast, extends NW into the Wide Bay and
also extends SE into northern Moreton Bay.. a storm on the northern end
of the line is truly electrical with very frequent lightning and some
awesome anvil crawlers (i even observed a CG striking OUTSIDE of the
storm from the top of the anvil!!!!).. some storms also developed
further on the southern end of the line after 9pm, and in no time at all
one of the storms had a very large overshoot and the lightning was just
going spastic with tonnes of anvil crawlers and a few strong Cg's
observed (i am a considerable distance from these storms)..
90% of the lightning is in cloud or anvil crawler lightning.. the
tracker is picking up 90 Cg's every 5 minutes at the moment (10:30pm)..
but if it picked up all lightning it would be showing in excess of 500
per 5 minutes..
It has calmed down a little now (the storm on the northern end of the
line is still going strong though).. but the whole line remains quite
active.. they could go all night..
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Energex lightning tracker down?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:11:30 +1000
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Hmm Looks like it doesn't it. Hope it gets fixed real soon.
John.
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Subject: aus-wx: Energex lightning tracker down?
Is it just me or has the Energex SE Qld lightning tracker been down
since 11am Monday?
Dion
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:12:59 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey John, Everyone..
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Yo Ben & Others,
>
The Sunday 12UTC IR Sat Pic, shows
> this line having moved well out to sea, with the Northern most extension
> evident as a storm line crossing the coast South of Fraser Island.
All radar, sat pics and lightning tracker images are being uploaded to
BSCH as i write this email (over 12 meg worth).. the sat pic loop really
shows the storms well..
> Meantime it is interesting to note that while Ipswich may have gotton some
> nice hail on Sunday, nothing materialised at Mt. Crosby 11km north. In
> fact, after the emphatic forecasts of the previous week, from both the BoM
> and (sigh) the BSCH site, for showers tending to rain periods with storms,
> lasting at least 24 hours (originally Thursday, then Friday, the Friday
> night/Saturday), my 7 day rainfall figure for Mt. Crosby to 9:00am this
> morning is a humungous 0.0mm. Not a measurable drop. But of course I was
> in Sydney, which is where it did rain, in fact it pissed down. Maybe I am
> a rain god after all...
Don't worry i didn't get very much at all either (about 3mm or so from
the whole system).. it was VERY hard to forecast though.. AVN performed
extremely poorly for us in SE QLD.. Anthony worked the LI to be -10 and
CAPE 3000 on Sunday (and the sky reflected this instability), and AVN
had forecast barely a fraction of this.. and even the analysis did not
show this (this is not uncommon unfortunately).. meanwhile we had 2
(probable) supercells in 24 hours..
This next system for us tomorrow and Thursday could be a good one
though.. the last AVN forecast i saw (AVN raw data is down at the
moment) had -7 and -8 LI's in the SE quarter of QLD, with 2000 CAPE and
lots and lots of precip Wednesday afternoon and overnight Wednesday..
the wind profile is also quite nice, so i wouldn't be surprised at some
very nice storms around Wednesday afternoon and evening..
Rain is looking possible overnight Wednesday as well.. we mentioned this
in the forecast discussion last night.. and today the BOM forecasts
mention rain for us..
> John.
> >snip
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
> Just when i thought the storms had cleared, a line of electrical storms
> has developed in line NE of Brisbane.. the line cuts the coast around
> the northern end of the Sunshine coast, extends NW into the Wide Bay and
> also extends SE into northern Moreton Bay.. a storm on the northern end
> of the line is truly electrical with very frequent lightning and some
> awesome anvil crawlers (i even observed a CG striking OUTSIDE of the
> storm from the top of the anvil!!!!).. some storms also developed
> further on the southern end of the line after 9pm, and in no time at all
> one of the storms had a very large overshoot and the lightning was just
> going spastic with tonnes of anvil crawlers and a few strong Cg's
> observed (i am a considerable distance from these storms)..
>
> 90% of the lightning is in cloud or anvil crawler lightning.. the
> tracker is picking up 90 Cg's every 5 minutes at the moment (10:30pm)..
> but if it picked up all lightning it would be showing in excess of 500
> per 5 minutes..
>
> It has calmed down a little now (the storm on the northern end of the
> line is still going strong though).. but the whole line remains quite
> active.. they could go all night..
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:18:29 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Ross Portas and myself are more than likely chasing in SE QLD tomorrow..
if anyone is interested in joining us you are more than welcome.. I
guess you can email one of us personally, or you can call me on:
3889-4323
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Yo Ben & Others,
>
> I actually sent something like this email Sunday night, but it has so far
> failed to turn up on the list...
> So a retry...
>
> After a wet and uncomfortably cold weekend in Sydney, I flew
> Sydney->Brisbane Sunday night leaving Sydney at 7:30pm. I was fortunate
> enough to score a window seat on the right hand side of the aircraft
> (starboard), purely by chance. And what a sight!!! I was treated to the
> second best display of storm activity I have seen from the air. A clean
> unbroken line of storms lay out to sea and approximately parallel to the
> coast from around Taree all the way to the Gold Coast. Every 20-30km along
> the line was an intense cell with lightning ranging from 1 per 5 secs to 1
> per sec, depending on the cell. The activity appeared to get better
> farther North, with the best cell off Ballina. The anvils from all storms
> merged together in a continuous cloud bank, with overshoots above the
> intense cells. Interesting how different anvil crawlers look when you're
> at 28,000 feet - they really highlight the boiling anvil tops :)
>
> At 8:30pm, the line ended just off Southport, with a new cell showing
> backshearing with a classic flanking line extending all the way back into
> Moreton Bay. There was a full moon, so the entire structure was quite
> clear and appeared beautifully superimposed in 3d relief on a moonlit
> Ocean.
>
> I believe this storm line was an extension of a quite nice guster and rain
> curtain which came through the North Shore in Sydney around 3:15pm, and
> which to me appeared to represent a cold front, delivering a quick
> temperature drop with winds backing SW. The Sunday 12UTC IR Sat Pic, shows
> this line having moved well out to sea, with the Northern most extension
> evident as a storm line crossing the coast South of Fraser Island.
>
> Meantime it is interesting to note that while Ipswich may have gotton some
> nice hail on Sunday, nothing materialised at Mt. Crosby 11km north. In
> fact, after the emphatic forecasts of the previous week, from both the BoM
> and (sigh) the BSCH site, for showers tending to rain periods with storms,
> lasting at least 24 hours (originally Thursday, then Friday, the Friday
> night/Saturday), my 7 day rainfall figure for Mt. Crosby to 9:00am this
> morning is a humungous 0.0mm. Not a measurable drop. But of course I was
> in Sydney, which is where it did rain, in fact it pissed down. Maybe I am
> a rain god after all...
>
> John.
> >snip
> Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
>
> Just when i thought the storms had cleared, a line of electrical storms
> has developed in line NE of Brisbane.. the line cuts the coast around
> the northern end of the Sunshine coast, extends NW into the Wide Bay and
> also extends SE into northern Moreton Bay.. a storm on the northern end
> of the line is truly electrical with very frequent lightning and some
> awesome anvil crawlers (i even observed a CG striking OUTSIDE of the
> storm from the top of the anvil!!!!).. some storms also developed
> further on the southern end of the line after 9pm, and in no time at all
> one of the storms had a very large overshoot and the lightning was just
> going spastic with tonnes of anvil crawlers and a few strong Cg's
> observed (i am a considerable distance from these storms)..
>
> 90% of the lightning is in cloud or anvil crawler lightning.. the
> tracker is picking up 90 Cg's every 5 minutes at the moment (10:30pm)..
> but if it picked up all lightning it would be showing in excess of 500
> per 5 minutes..
>
> It has calmed down a little now (the storm on the northern end of the
> line is still going strong though).. but the whole line remains quite
> active.. they could go all night..
>
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Hey Everyone
This is just to let you know the reason why you didn't receive a weekly
newsletter via your IN box on Sunday Night. As I am the editor of this
newsletter, I have now decided to make this newsletter a fortnightly thing.
I have been having trouble getting people to give me information, as it
seems to be emails the have to with the ASWA seem to be going straight to
the aus-wx list again. It is very disheartening for me on occasions when I
ask each week for people to send me something for the newsletter even if it
just to say what there weather has been like and when it comes to writing
up the newsletter on a Sunday night I have no information for it all, after
being promised by numerous people they will email me something in.
PLEASE if you have something anything at all send it to me at
astrolady99 at netscape.net do not hit the reply button on this email. This
will be the last time I get down on my hands and knees begging for people
to help me out.
Yours Sincerely
Kathryn Jolly
ASWA Fortnighly Newsletter - Editor
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Decipering Sydney Lightning Tracker
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:51:09 PDT
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Can anyone enlighten me on how to decipher the symbols on the Sydney
lightning tracker on the BOM Olympic site???
Thanks
Halden Boyd
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at pacific.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Hail in Ashwood
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:53:11 +1000
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Hey all
Small Cell just moved over my house bringing a brief squall with heavy rain
and a bit of small winter type hail, certainly was welcome to see.
Plenty of cold air Cb's over southern Vic as an upper level trough moves
through. Radar is showing plenty of cells around and this is backed up by
sat pic which shows a well defined cold air pool over southern vic.
bring it on
Nick
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Energex lightning tracker down?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:36:13 +1000
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Update from Energex :(
>snip
Mr Woodbridge
Thank you for your email dated 26 October 1999. We appreciate you taking
the time to provide feedback to ENERGEX.
Your request is being investigated and will be responded to within 5 working
days.
Thank you for you valued comments.
ENERGEX Customer Service
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From: Form Mailer [mailto:blackhole at energex.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 26 October 1999 12:35 PM
To: CustomerFeedback at energex.com.au
Subject: Form Contents
name: John Woodbridge
email: jrw at pixelcom.net
topic: LightningTracker
message: As a member of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA), I make extensive use of the Lightning Tracker facility to assist
tracking of storms and estimating severity.
I notice it has been not been updated since 11:00 am yesterday.
I was wondering whether this is a glitch or something more permanent, and
when it might become available again, given the likelihood of storms in the
next few days.
Regards,
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:39:12 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: grafton weekend and photos
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hey guys,
had a nice weekend in grafton, weather wise and other!:) a huge deluge that lasted over an hour, maybe longer on saturday early afternoon or so - in which my car window was kinda alll the way down!!:( anyway...
then on sunday got a nice thundery shower around lunch time, didn't look to creash hot as it approached, but its arse end looked nice http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410991.jpg
the moon and sun, made a good combination http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410992.jpg
then soon after
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410993.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410994.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410995.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410996.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/2410997.jpg
and also i forgot to adjust the focusser:( live and let learn however teh hell it goes:)
see yas
steve baynham
p.s. didn't get a drop on the gold coast at all over the weekend!
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Common sayings
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:05:19 +1000
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For us, the saying "slow as a wet week" doesn't actually apply (as I
suddenly realised while describing the speed of a 286)...maybe we should
assist with the development of the English language by redefining some of
the sayings.....
we could have.........
slow as a Bight anticyclone
slow as a dry week
slow as a stratocumulus chase day
help!!!!! - more please....
if you need inspiration try this
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~enigman/australia/slang.html
(I've sent the URL to Les & Chris so they'll understand us when they get
here next month - my goodness, it'n next month!!!!!)
Jane
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:22:53 +1100
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
A windy day here in Strahan with heavy showers starting around 4pm EDST.
This is what living in the roaring forties is all about with westerlies,
developing lows and cold fronts lining up.
Out at the airport at 9pm EDST the wind is W 25 gusting 36 knots temp
10C pressure 1004Hpa.
6.30pm EDST coastal observations.
CAPE SORELL
WIND W 25KT
It is expected that Wave rider observations will resume in October
subject to
favourable weather conditions allowing the Wave rider buoy to be
replaced.
Wave rider significant wave height: No report
Maximum height over the past 3 hours: No report
Average period: No report
CAPE GRIM
WIND W 32KT
RECENT PRECIPITATION
MAATSUYKER IS
WIND NNW 26KT
SEA MODERATE HEIGHT 1.25-2.5M
SWELL SW LOW HEIGHT 1M
DISTANT PRECIPITATION
LOW ROCKY PT
WIND NNW 25KT
RAIN
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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From: "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Lightning tracker back up
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:33:29 +1000
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Energex lightning tracker appears to up and working
again.
Last update 20:01 Tuesday 26/10/99
Greg Curtis
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:39:47 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
I have added a small writeup to the recent events section of BSCH on the
Stanthorpe and Texas hailstorm on Sunday, and also the storms the
following day in SE QLD.. radar/satellite/lightning tracker loops are
included for both days..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/recentevents.htm
Tomorrow is shaping up to be a VERY nice day in SE QLD, there is
certainly a good chance of severe weather in the district.. either from
severe thunderstorms or rain associated with the thunderstorms.. AVN
precip forecasts are very very high..
Ross Portas and I will be chasing SW of Brisbane from about 1pm onwards,
we would appreciate any radar updates people could provide..
Rosco's mobile number is:
0413 911 381
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Vantage Points Database
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 20:56:56 +1000
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A few more Victorian vantage points:-
1. Melbourne's answer to Rooty Hill!!
Location: Melways 44 K1
off Yarra Boulevard north of the eastern freeway. Park at the top of the
hill where the road bends to the right (if coming from the south) - from
here you can look from NW across the city skyline to the SW, and to the NE.
Walk across the road, up the short, steep dirt path & head for the black
trig marker at the top of the hill (~200m). Views from SE round through NW
to SSW.
Pros: ice cream van parked on bend in warm weather at weekends, roadside
parking available
Cons: a couple of black wattles to the N that will die hopefully very soon
, possible snakes in warm weather
2. Corio airfield lookout (NW of Geelong)
Location: Melways 221 F3
Viewing tower - (off Plantation Road)
Pros: 360degree views
Cons: graffiti?
3. Toolern Vale - Black Hill Road (S of Sunbury)
VicRoads Country Directory 78 C3/B2 (off Couangalt Road)
Pros: pull off areas on both sides of the road, sealed
View from E - N - W
4. One Tree Hill - Ararat
VicRoads Country Directory 56 G6
Pros: stunning 360degree view, sealed to the top
Cons: still thinking about this one.....haven't found any yet
Jane
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:42:58 +1000
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*****THE ASWA WEATHER BOOK*****
Do you have a photo of severe weather or the effects of severe weather in
Australia?
The editors (Herbert / ONeill), Victorian members of ASWA are writing /
compiling a book for weather enthusiasts about Australia, with an emphasis
on severe weather. The book will also provide a broad outline of Australian
weather conditions as well as conditions specific to different parts of the
country.
We are looking for photographs of the following:-
storm generated seas, thunderstorms, lightning, gust fronts, shelf clouds,
funnels, tornadoes, wave clouds, morning glory, convergence lines, cyclones,
hail, snow, or anything unusual. Feel free to send anything you feel is a
significant photo.
Selected photographs may receive special attention and may be enhanced by
the inclusion of satellite images, atmospheric sounding profiles & synoptic
charts.
If you have a colour or black & white photo you would like to submit, please
send a 5 x 7" print to
Clyve Herbert
ASWA - Victoria
19 Townview Court
LEOPOLD VICTORIA 3224
or email a copy to cadence at rubix.net.au
The following page has a copy of a photo identification sheet which will
give you a guide to the sort of information we would like to include.
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/bookphotos.htm
All photographs will be credited to the photographer and will remain their
property. Photos will be returned upon completion of the book.
Kind regards,
Clyve Herbert / Jane ONeill
Editors
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Clyve Herbert / Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au mailto:cadence at rubix.net.au
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Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:53:49 +1000
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I am happy with the BOM performance on this event. East coast lows are
notoriously tricky to forecast, they virtually spin up overnight and their
placement in relation to what weather you will get makes them a forecast
nightmare. As little as 100km can mean the difference between onshore winds
and heavy rain or offshore dry winds and sunshine.
For example on Sunday morning when houses were again going under at Figtree,
only 50km away to the NW was in sunshine.
However your second paragraph pretty much sums it up, the public are simply
not aware of the significance, and rely on media to pass the message on.
Media tend to be haphazard about this, radio stations generally pass it on
albeit often well after the event has passed, but I have yet to see TV
outside the weather report to do such.
One of the long term aims of the ASWA ( Australian Severe Weather
Association ) is to lift public awareness of Australian weather,
particularly thunderstorms and other potentially severe situations.
Perhaps you have some suggestions ?
Michael
> Michael raises an interesting point about the issuing of warnings - it
would be
> interesting to know when the Illawarra was put on alert - I understand
that it
> was definitely about midnight on Saturday night - with the first calls for
help
> to Council engineers/SES about 8.00am on Sunday down in the Dapto area
>
> also I wonder if enough in the public understand the significance of a
"severe
> storm warning" rating - and that we don't necessarily need a week of two
of rain
> to saturate a catchment prior to a severe storm incident before real
problems
> with flooding can occur
>
> Kerrie Christian
> Thirroul
>
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Do you wish to have scans or actual photographs at this stage??
Jimmy Deguara
At 21:42 26/10/99 +1000, you wrote:
>*****THE ASWA WEATHER BOOK*****
>
>Do you have a photo of severe weather or the effects of severe weather in
>Australia?
>
>The editors (Herbert / ONeill), Victorian members of ASWA are writing /
>compiling a book for weather enthusiasts about Australia, with an emphasis
>on severe weather. The book will also provide a broad outline of Australian
>weather conditions as well as conditions specific to different parts of the
>country.
>
>We are looking for photographs of the following:-
>storm generated seas, thunderstorms, lightning, gust fronts, shelf clouds,
>funnels, tornadoes, wave clouds, morning glory, convergence lines, cyclones,
>hail, snow, or anything unusual. Feel free to send anything you feel is a
>significant photo.
>Selected photographs may receive special attention and may be enhanced by
>the inclusion of satellite images, atmospheric sounding profiles & synoptic
>charts.
>
>If you have a colour or black & white photo you would like to submit, please
>send a 5 x 7" print to
>
>Clyve Herbert
>ASWA - Victoria
>19 Townview Court
>LEOPOLD VICTORIA 3224
>
>or email a copy to cadence at rubix.net.au
>
>The following page has a copy of a photo identification sheet which will
>give you a guide to the sort of information we would like to include.
>http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/bookphotos.htm
>
>All photographs will be credited to the photographer and will remain their
>property. Photos will be returned upon completion of the book.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Clyve Herbert / Jane ONeill
>Editors
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Clyve Herbert / Jane ONeill
>ASWA - Victoria
>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
>Email: cadence at rubix.net.au mailto:cadence at rubix.net.au
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>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Jane ONeill
>ASWA - Victoria
>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
>Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
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From: "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: New Sydney Obs sites
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:02:24 +1000
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Hi all
I was talking to someone at uni today who works for the Sydney Harbour
Bridge Climb company, running the quided tours etc. He told me about 3 new
wx obs sites planned for Sydney in the next few months - on top of the
Bridge, at the Airport and at Homebush Olympic Site. They're supposed to be
some new kind of sophisticated thing which not only measures rainfall, but
also the size of the raindrops. There's also supposed to be far more
accurate anemometers as apparently the current one on the top of the bridge
keeps failing in slightly windy conditions!
Does anyone else know anything about this proposal?
Matthew
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:04:06 +1000
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:-
>Do you wish to have scans or actual photographs at this stage??
Scans are fine - send as many as you like with captions (ie: fill out the
form for each & email too) and we can get back to you re which hard copies
we'd like later on.
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vantage Points Database
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:05:22 +1000
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Does it have Bindi Eyes too !
> 1. Melbourne's answer to Rooty Hill!!
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Illawarra Flash Flood possible 10Mil$ damage
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:08:13 +1000
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The local media is talking that damages from Sunday's storm could be as high
as 10 million dollars.
Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: The ASWA Weather Book - photos wanted
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:14:08 +1000
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The best idea is to trawl through my site and find the one's you like. I
will send a higher quality scan to you.
Michael
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:-
> >Do you wish to have scans or actual photographs at this stage??
>
> Scans are fine - send as many as you like with captions (ie: fill out the
> form for each & email too) and we can get back to you re which hard copies
> we'd like later on.
>
>
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
> Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
> Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Vantage Points Database
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:26:10 +1000
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Michael Thompson wrote:
>
>Does it have Bindi Eyes too !
>
>> 1. Melbourne's answer to Rooty Hill!!
>
I'll let you know when everything goes to see - I suspect 1 definite con
would be magpies in spring - I forgot that
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com, Andrew Treloar [A.Treloar at bom.gov.au]
From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney hailstorms on Sunday
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Last Sunday, there were hailstorms reported in quite a few suburbs. Now I
have word from my friend Troy Green at Landilo that hail fell for about 20
minutes and covered the ground in a blanket of white. Hail was about marble
sized. Now as I said on Sunday, this type of event was anticipated with
similar situations in September1988 and possibly August1989. I would have
to check the dates on these though.
Quite an interesting system. Oh, if you are wondering about our report for
both chases for Saturday and Sunday, James Harris has volunteered to do it
(no I didn't force him..... just twisted his arm instead).
Jimmy Deguara
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