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001 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] shear and SRH
002 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com] intro
003 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast Storm
004 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] SE QLD Lightning Tracker
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
006 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Bundaberg storms
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Bundaberg storms
008 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au latest SOI Figure
009 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
011 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] latest SOI Figure
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] latest SOI Figure
013 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au] Bundaberg rain
014 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au latest SOI Figure
015 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] latest SOI Figure
016 "Steve" [sselka at ozemail.com.au] The Season Ahead
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Lack of hot days in Melbourne
018 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] SE QLD Lightning Tracker
019 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Bundaberg rain
020 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] QLD/NSW Border storms
021 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Lack of hot days in Melbourne
022 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Capricornia Severe T'storm Warning
023 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
024 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au] SE QLD Lightning Tracker
025 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Sydney hailstorms on Sunday
026 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
027 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] SE QLD Lightning Tracker
028 "paulmoss at tpgi.com.au" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
029 Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.ne Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
030 "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au] SE QLD Lightning Tracker
031 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
032 "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au] Question Re:Lightning Tracker
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001
From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: aus-wx: shear and SRH
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:27:03 +0000 (GMT)
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Hi all,
Fortunate Anthony in stormy Brisbane wrote:
# One thing that I've learnt though, is that the SRH values on the
# sounding on Wyoming, are always different to the ones the BoM have, the
# BoM SRH values that I get given are always higher, the same goes with
# CAPE and LI's. So I'm not 100% sure about the reliability of the
# soundings that we receive sometimes. The strength of shear appears
# sufficient for at the very least, strong-severe multicellular growth
# from experience of what I've seen in SE QLD.
Not surprising. In the beginning there is one (1) balloon going
up to take the sounding. Even after error-checks (hydrostatic,
no superadiabatic gear etc.) the actual soundings, regardless
of who puts them on the net, should be very similar.
ATM is still believe that soundings in raw form are reliable.
Where things get more fishy is the diagnostics done with them:
SRH, CAPE,... SRH is sensitive to "storm motion" as computed
by some rule of thumb. People take 0-3 or 0-4 or 0-6 km shear
vectors, walk along x % of them and turn right for a while and
call the resulting vector the storm motion vector which then
goes into the SRH calculation. Depending on your storm motion
calculation you can lower/enhance SRH within quite generous bounds,
I think.
Regarding supercell shear: I try and cut out the "middle man"
and look at the 0-6 km shear vector. If that's big enough
(40 kts +) I smile, if not, I write negative emails.
I know, that 40+ value is an empirically based choice
looking at Southern Plains (US) storms only. But at this
stage (assuming the laws of physics are the same everywhere)
I see no reason to adjust the value with latitude/time of year/other
stuff.
Cheers from a zero-CAPE environment,
Harald
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:30:49 +1000
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: intro
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Hi Stuart - welcome!
>>Also receiving images direct from satellites- I have had [5yrs] an isa card
>receiver in my computer that takes apt images down from noaa and meteor
>satellites
I remember reading a Dick Smith article on making one of these for yourself.
(LONG time ago :) Are they commercially available for the solder-and-circuit-
board challenged amongst us?
cheers,
Chris
At 03:48 PM 10/27/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>It has been some time since I joined this list and I think that it is about
>time
>I introduced myself
>
>I am Stuart Montgomery [ a sensible 50+ yrs] and I live in Ellangowan [about
>20k south of Casino, NSW].
>
>Brief history:
> Lived on the south coast of WA. The first piece of real excitment
>was experiencing the Cylone Alby event. This started my interest in
>cyclones.
>After 30+ yrs I then shifted to Halls Creek in the Kimberleys.
>Over the next 12 yrs, during the wet season I had to watch heat driven
>thunderstorms develop on almost a daily basis.
>About two years ago I shifted here to find out what green grass [ and not
>spinifex]
>looked like and found out that thunderstorms here occur for what seems like
>almost any reason.
>
>My interests are anythig to do with cyclones [ I have yet to see any real
>ones over this side of the country] and increasingly about thunderstorms and
>their effects.
>There was one thunderstorm last season that passed nearby, it sounded like a
>train roaring along and left a trail of wrecked trees and rubbish all over
>the place.
>Also receiving images direct from satellites- I have had [5yrs] an isa card
>receiver in my computer that takes apt images down from noaa and meteor
>satellites
>
>Last weekend we had some lively storms go over head with a few strikes
>close handy
>After the first strike,[ the flash and tghunder almost together] when we
>had got
>some visibility back we rushed around and turned the computer off and
>settled a pair
> very nervous cats down. We ended up with 39mm rain.
>
>This morning another round of storms that woke us up at aound 5am and over
>the
>next four hours gave 18mm. There has been 15mm and a few storms around
>midday.
>Not to bad - we have had 117mm this month so far.
>
>Anyhow that's enough from me for now....
>
>
>Stuart Montgomery
>
>Ellangowan
>Ph. (02) 66637029
>smontgom at nor.com.au
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:42:36 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast Storm
Chase Sunday
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Howdy all.
Last weekends ECL would be typical! I leave the State and that happens. Anyways
wash up at my house was 78mm most received between 10.30pm & 11.30pm on the
Saturday night! Highest return rate was 2.5mm per minute sustained for 3 minutes
blocks ( 3 about 11pm the heaviest period of rain).
The Storm that hit Taree areas on the Sunday brought golf ball size hail, plenty
of cg lightning and heavy rain that brought about 10mm in 3 minutes. Max wind
gust recorded at my house was 72km/h.
At leats I got to chase a QLD storm on the Sunday. I chased it from the Gold
Coast area to Coomera (sick) near Dreamworld when torrential rain reduced
visibility to about 10ms. I later checked the radar loop and it was shown to be
pink about that area. Some decent lightning. The 2nd cell that formed at the
flank of the 1st had something interesting happen - it shot out a small squall
line directly south over the Gold Coast with 3 cg's and some rain but had a
decent lowering - that's why I chased it - and the fact it was moving a
completely different way then the main storm (it was moving sort of ESE).
Anyways sounds like VERY interesting weather in NSW! But typically boring
weather in QLD! (Sorry guys but it was........).
Paul at Taree.
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004
From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:14:57 +1000
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Yeah, Hi Marty,
The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised Ben &
Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it
was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5
and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the
former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like
214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the
next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread activity, it
just doesn't start & stop like that.
I saved some of the more bizarre displays at:
http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker
The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and
suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come
off the range at Toowoomba.
John.
>snip
Hi all,
Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this
evening?
Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at
one
point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago;
700
or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was
painted
in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700
(yes
two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been
about
8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to
myself
at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available.
Cheers!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:29:45 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
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Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?
I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.
For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
5-10 degree contrast?
Taa
Lindsay P.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Bundaberg storms
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Bundaberg Airport recorded 166mm in the 24 hours to 0900 this morning.
News reports I've seen suggest that this came over a period of 2-3
hours from a slow-moving thunderstorm - can any Queenslanders
confirm?
This is a record for the airport (with ~35 years of data), although
the now-closed Post Office site has had 199.6mm in October before.
It was the only three-figure total, although there were several other
falls in the 70+ range, scattered through several areas (Darling
Downs, Gold Coast hinterland, Sunshine Coast, Cape Moreton). Also
83 at Tenterfield (NSW).
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:20:54 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Balir,
I think the news reports have said that this fell in around 2 hours,
certainly some very heavy rain and showers passed through. I'm
currently uploading a broad loop onto BSCH, it's uploading slowly, but I
think Ben will send the URL to the list a bit later. Certainly a very
nice line of thunderstorms, they developed very quickly on the northern
edge, as one would expect given the extra heating from less cloud.
Blair Trewin wrote:
>
> Bundaberg Airport recorded 166mm in the 24 hours to 0900 this morning.
> News reports I've seen suggest that this came over a period of 2-3
> hours from a slow-moving thunderstorm - can any Queenslanders
> confirm?
>
> This is a record for the airport (with ~35 years of data), although
> the now-closed Post Office site has had 199.6mm in October before.
>
> It was the only three-figure total, although there were several other
> falls in the 70+ range, scattered through several areas (Darling
> Downs, Gold Coast hinterland, Sunshine Coast, Cape Moreton). Also
> 83 at Tenterfield (NSW).
>
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38:02 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
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Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to +8.
Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina" event
with above average rainfall?
Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?
All I can say is bring it on...
PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for October.
Not too bad.
Paul at Taree.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:39:22 +0800
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From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast
StormChase Sunday
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Hi all,
Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> Anyways sounds like VERY interesting weather in NSW! But typically boring
> weather in QLD! (Sorry guys but it was........).
>
> Paul at Taree.
>
Geeze if that is boring I would love to know what category our weather of late falls
into.
Forecast for Perth for the next week is FINE :(
Give me Qld weather any day over what we have been getting here.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:46:34 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
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Lindsay wrote:
>
> Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
> Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?
>
> I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
> out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
> they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.
>
> For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
> any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
> coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
> 5-10 degree contrast?
As I used to live in Katoomba, the lapse rate often intrigued me. All
has to do with the amount of moisture in the air and how much of that
moisture is precipitated on the windward side to the west of the Blue
Mountains before the air decends on the leeward side to the East.
Without getting too technical, an air mass rising to the west might
have 95% RH at Oberon with temp around 2C, possibly wet snow or
heavy drizzle falling. Further west, it was, say 80% RH and 5C at
Bathurst, so this air is cooling close to the moist air lapse rate
(-6C/1000m). Now the air is dryer as it approaches Katoomba, perhaps
65% RH and 5C. Remember that Bathurst is 744.5M, Oberon is 1190m,
Mt. Boyce is 1080m and Katoomba is 1030m. The air is warming at
closer to the dry-air lapse rate. There's also some gaps in the
cloud adding some radiative heating. So by the time it reaches
Penrith, it's 40% RH and 17C. Under these circumstances, I've seen
temp differences between Katoomba and Sydney of 14C! with 2C at
Katoomba and 16C in Sydney. Turn the prevailing wind around from
the east and you get a different lapse rate because now the air is
80% RH and 16C at Penrith, 95% RH and 13C at Springwood, 100% RH
and 11C at Wentworth Falls (classic mountain mists) and maybe 100%
RH and 10C at Katoomba with perhaps 9C at Mt. Boyce. I hope that
explains this phenomena without getting too technical...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:04:03 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark
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>From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38 AM
>
>
>
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to
+8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina"
event
> with above average rainfall?
>
> Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?
>
> All I can say is bring it on...
>
> PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for
October.
> Not too bad.
>
> Paul at Taree.
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:09:43 +1000 (EST)
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>
>
>
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to +8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina" event
> with above average rainfall?
The shift actually happened a few weeks ago - the jump has become
noticeable because some low values in late September (it's a 30-day
running mean) have dropped out of the 30-day mean.
Blair Trewin
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Hi all,
Noticed this morning that Bundaberg received 166mm in 24 hours. The AWS
recorded an incredible 120mm in one hour. This would certainly cause
substantial flooding. Has anybody heard any damage reports?
Mark
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Gday Mark.
Is that indicative of anything?
Rgds, paul.
"Mark Hardy" on 28/10/99 12:04:03 PM
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Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark
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>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38 AM
>
>
>
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to
+8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina"
event
> with above average rainfall?
>
> Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?
>
> All I can say is bring it on...
>
> PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for
October.
> Not too bad.
>
> Paul at Taree.
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:50:37 +1000
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Yeh, sounds like the long paddock's gonna get wet :)
>snip
Gday Mark.
Is that indicative of anything?
Rgds, paul.
Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark
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Ellangowan
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Lack of hot days in Melbourne
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The likely passing of October without a 30-degree day (highest so far
27.5) in Melbourne got me looking at years with few hot days in
spring.
This is nowhere near record-setting - in fact, only 43% of years in
Melbourne have a 30+ day in October. The last five years, however,
have all featured such a day. If it doesn't get any warmer on
Saturday, 27.5 will rank 105th of 145 years for 'highest maximum'.
Out of interest:
Latest first day over 25:
6 November 1905
5 November 1890
4 November 1958
2 November 1860
1 November 1976
Latest first day over 30:
19 December 1856
14 December 1879
10 December 1992
7 December 1860
7 December 1916
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:41:31 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey John, Everyone..
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Yeah, Hi Marty,
>
> The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised Ben &
> Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it
> was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5
> and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the
> former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like
> 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the
> next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread activity, it
> just doesn't start & stop like that.
It was a shocking bust chase.. we drove into a rain band just after
midday, then we drove out of the rainband about 8:30pm or so that
night.. after driving 650km through thundery rain... oh well.. can't win
them all i guess.. we were just in the wrong area, 150km or more to our
north was where we needed to be..
> I saved some of the more bizarre displays at:
> http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker
I have put together a lightning tracker loop from 2-3 am Wednesday
morning (MAJOR electrical storms in northern NSW) till around midnight
last night.. thanks to Jason Bush and Anthony Cornelius for saving these
images..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop.htm
> The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and
> suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come
> off the range at Toowoomba.
Even though the lightning tracker showed a very high lightning rate just
north of where we ended up, it was totally overcast with
light/occasionally moderate rain from Toowoomba west.. with plenty of
low cloud.. so we basically saw stuff all.. frustrating to say the
least..
> John.
> >snip
> Hi all,
8>
> Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this
> evening?
> Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at
> one
> point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago;
> 700
> or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was
> painted
> in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700
> (yes
> two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been
> about
> 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to
> myself
> at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Marty.
> Brisbane, Australia
> martyp at dynamite.com.au
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:09 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Mark, everyone..
I did a bit of snooping around and no-one knew of any flooding from the
rain.. and i haven't seen anything on the news yet, although you would
think rain that heavy would have to cause at least some local flooding..
I have put together a satellite picture animation of the storms in SE
QLD and northwards yesterday afternoon and overnight..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/satpicloop.htm
And also Anthony has put together a Brisbane broad scale radar event
loop..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/eventloop.htm
The tracker doesn't go as far north as Bundaberg.. but there was a line
of storms at the far northern end of the map overnight..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop-overnight2.htm
Mark Hardy wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Noticed this morning that Bundaberg received 166mm in 24 hours. The AWS
> recorded an incredible 120mm in one hour. This would certainly cause
> substantial flooding. Has anybody heard any damage reports?
> Mark
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:16:05 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
Most people probably already know a line of strong storms moved through
NSW/QLD border areas early Wednesday morning.. one of these storms
unroofed a house (possibly more than one) and uprooted trees at Texas..
the storms moved further east unleashing HUGE amounts of lightning in
northern NSW in the early hours of the morning, with the lightning
tracker recording up to almost 600 Cg's in every 5 minute period at one
stage (in just one storm!!!!)..
I posted to the list early that morning saying there was a very strong
storm on the border ranges with a large area of red.. i have made a
short local loop of the storm.. quite spectacular.. huge area of red for
40 mins straight..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/border-range/localloop.htm
There is also a Brisbane broad scale event loop of the storms that move
through Texas and other border areas..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/border-range/eventloop.htm
We were hanging on to the hope of a few lingering storms in SE QLD
today.. but it doesn't look like there will be anything significant
around.. a congestus shower forming to my SW at the moment, but i'm not
convinced it's going to do much..
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lack of hot days in Melbourne
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:00:29 +1000
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Hmmm,,
Not overly surprising when you consider that Brisbane hasn't officially been over 30 yet (ooo, maybe it just made it the other day).
John.
>snip
The likely passing of October without a 30-degree day (highest so far
27.5) in Melbourne got me looking at years with few hot days in
spring.
This is nowhere near record-setting - in fact, only 43% of years in
Melbourne have a 30+ day in October. The last five years, however,
have all featured such a day. If it doesn't get any warmer on
Saturday, 27.5 will rank 105th of 145 years for 'highest maximum'.
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Hi all
It's all happening in Qld once again...this time near Rockhamton, Central
Qld. Gladstone, the place that scored 120mm in an hour last night *should*
be spared by the big ones, but other areas won't be. Just a pity the radar
in the region is so poor.
Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this
warning.
TOP PRIORITY
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
at 4:14pm EST on Thursday the 28th of October 1999
For the Capricornia District
The Bureau of Meteorology advises people of the possibility of severe
thunderstorms with damaging winds and large hail in the Capricornia
district.
Radar observations show two large thunderstorm cells just north of
Rockhampton
and near Yaamba moving northeast.
People are advised to secure outside items, move cars under cover and seek
shelter.
The next warning will be issued at 5pm.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:46:28 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Lindsay
Weather with Tim Bailey??? Surely you don't expect accuracy?
Lindsay wrote:
>
> Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
> Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?
>
> I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
> out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
> they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.
>
> For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
> any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
> coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
> 5-10 degree contrast?
>
> Taa
>
> Lindsay P.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:43:13 +1000
From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]
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> Hey all...
About the lightning tracker.. What I think happened is that it was
basically turning off and then on again. So if it turned off for 7
minutes or so then it would have missed out on all the whites and just
shown the strikes before that as we can see in this image:
http://www.powerup.com.au/~pmiracki/weather/nice1.gif
You can also see that there is no green strikes so it propably wasn't
working during that time too. There was also a period when it was off
for quiet a while and only had greens and blues on it. But then It came
back on. So I don't think
it was adding the strikes together but was simply not working from time
to time.
:-)
> Yeah, Hi Marty,
>
> The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised
> Ben &
> Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase,
> that it
> was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling
> the <5
> and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the
>
> former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things
> like
> 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then
> the
> next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread
> activity, it
> just doesn't start & stop like that.
>
> I saved some of the more bizarre displays at:
> http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker
>
> The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys
> and
> suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just
> come
> off the range at Toowoomba.
>
> John.
> >snip
> Hi all,
>
> Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this
> evening?
> Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on,
> because at
> one
> point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins
> ago;
> 700
> or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was
>
> painted
> in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around
> 2,700
> (yes
> two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've
> been
> about
> 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email
> to
> myself
> at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it
> available.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Marty.
> Brisbane, Australia
> martyp at dynamite.com.au
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Landillo (spelling) is about 5-10km NE of Penrith I suppose between
Penrith and Scofields And no Schofields did not get hail only 2.2mm of
rain from that storm. Apparently Werrington got about 5 minutes or so
hail again around pea sized. Werrington is just east of Penrith.
Jimmy Deguara
At 06:47 27/10/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Where the hell is Landilo???
>Don W
>
>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Last Sunday, there were hailstorms reported in quite a few suburbs. Now I
> > have word from my friend Troy Green at Landilo that hail fell for about 20
> > minutes and covered the ground in a blanket of white. Hail was about marble
> > sized. Now as I said on Sunday, this type of event was anticipated with
> > similar situations in September1988 and possibly August1989. I would have
> > to check the dates on these though.
> >
> > Quite an interesting system. Oh, if you are wondering about our report for
> > both chases for Saturday and Sunday, James Harris has volunteered to do it
> > (no I didn't force him..... just twisted his arm instead).
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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Hey, hang on Don, he still gets all his data from the Bureau of Met.
Mark
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>From: Don White
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 4:46 PM
>
> Lindsay
> Weather with Tim Bailey??? Surely you don't expect accuracy?
>
>
> Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
>> Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?
>>
>> I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
>> out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
>> they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.
>>
>> For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
>> any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
>> coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
>> 5-10 degree contrast?
>>
>> Taa
>>
>> Lindsay P.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:23:26 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker
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Ben, that is part of chasing. Try driving a similar distance and seeing
nothing. Thta is what we had to contend with a few years ago - even last
Year!!!!!! But that is part of this never-ending experiment. Keep chasing
and you will eventually get the good stuff. If you stay at home, you will
get bugger all. I am enjoying these regular chases.
Jimmy Deguara
At 14:41 28/10/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hey John, Everyone..
>
>John Woodbridge wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, Hi Marty,
> >
> > The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised Ben &
> > Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it
> > was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5
> > and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the
> > former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like
> > 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the
> > next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread activity, it
> > just doesn't start & stop like that.
>
>It was a shocking bust chase.. we drove into a rain band just after
>midday, then we drove out of the rainband about 8:30pm or so that
>night.. after driving 650km through thundery rain... oh well.. can't win
>them all i guess.. we were just in the wrong area, 150km or more to our
>north was where we needed to be..
>
> > I saved some of the more bizarre displays at:
> > http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker
>
>I have put together a lightning tracker loop from 2-3 am Wednesday
>morning (MAJOR electrical storms in northern NSW) till around midnight
>last night.. thanks to Jason Bush and Anthony Cornelius for saving these
>images..
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop.htm
>
>
> > The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and
> > suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come
> > off the range at Toowoomba.
>
>Even though the lightning tracker showed a very high lightning rate just
>north of where we ended up, it was totally overcast with
>light/occasionally moderate rain from Toowoomba west.. with plenty of
>low cloud.. so we basically saw stuff all.. frustrating to say the
>least..
>
>
> > John.
> > >snip
> > Hi all,
>8>
> > Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this
> > evening?
> > Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at
> > one
> > point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago;
> > 700
> > or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was
> > painted
> > in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700
> > (yes
> > two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been
> > about
> > 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to
> > myself
> > at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Marty.
> > Brisbane, Australia
> > martyp at dynamite.com.au
> > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
> > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
> > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d
> > ICQ: 11790565
> >
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:19:34 +1000
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From: "paulmoss at tpgi.com.au" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
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Howdy all.
I am looking for decent sites with low-res visual & infrared satpics that
are quick loading. I have checked all the ones on Michael + Jimmys page but
most seem to be out of order or extremely slow. Any help?
Paul.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:39:25 +1000
From: Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
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Michael
thanks for the feedback - I'm not sure how much that I could achieve but when
we deal with this issue at Wollongong City Council I could take the opportunity
to ask if this issue could be looked into - maybe the message will get through -
especially as so many individuals are quite shocked at the damage when we had
not had days and says of rain leading up to the event - I could also talk to
individual media reps as I encounter them - one actually spoke of his concern to
me some time back - he had lived in Darwin for quite a while and therefore was
quite responsible about cyclone warnings etc - but he said that at one NSW radio
station that he worked at he would come into his shift and find weather warnings
still sitting on the fax and definitely not communicated to the public -
hopefully that may change now
Cr Kerrie Anne Christian
Ward I Councillor - Wollongong City Council
Michael Thompson wrote:
> I am happy with the BOM performance on this event. East coast lows are
> notoriously tricky to forecast, they virtually spin up overnight and their
> placement in relation to what weather you will get makes them a forecast
> nightmare. As little as 100km can mean the difference between onshore winds
> and heavy rain or offshore dry winds and sunshine.
>
> For example on Sunday morning when houses were again going under at Figtree,
> only 50km away to the NW was in sunshine.
>
> However your second paragraph pretty much sums it up, the public are simply
> not aware of the significance, and rely on media to pass the message on.
> Media tend to be haphazard about this, radio stations generally pass it on
> albeit often well after the event has passed, but I have yet to see TV
> outside the weather report to do such.
>
> One of the long term aims of the ASWA ( Australian Severe Weather
> Association ) is to lift public awareness of Australian weather,
> particularly thunderstorms and other potentially severe situations.
>
> Perhaps you have some suggestions ?
>
> Michael
>
> > Michael raises an interesting point about the issuing of warnings - it
> would be
> > interesting to know when the Illawarra was put on alert - I understand
> that it
> > was definitely about midnight on Saturday night - with the first calls for
> help
> > to Council engineers/SES about 8.00am on Sunday down in the Dapto area
> >
> > also I wonder if enough in the public understand the significance of a
> "severe
> > storm warning" rating - and that we don't necessarily need a week of two
> of rain
> > to saturate a catchment prior to a severe storm incident before real
> problems
> > with flooding can occur
> >
> > Kerrie Christian
> > Thirroul
> >
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From: "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:32:10 +1000
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Hello all,
> The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I
I understand that there is was some more tweaking on the new cluster server
last night.
Regards,
Anthony Spierings
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:30:04 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
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Paul, there are now a few more sites that are on the satpics page!!! They
have been slow lately for some reason - reasons - who knows. One of the
reason given was the position of the sun re the satellite which would
affect everything at this time of the year!!! See how it goes. The GMSD is
the best choice by far when it works fast enough and it usually does except
when you are on a chase!!
Jimmy Deguara
At 19:19 28/10/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Howdy all.
>
>I am looking for decent sites with low-res visual & infrared satpics that
>are quick loading. I have checked all the ones on Michael + Jimmys page but
>most seem to be out of order or extremely slow. Any help?
>
>Paul.
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From: "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:58:13 +1000
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Hi Marty
There is a rain radar on Foxtel(for Sydney at least), and it immediately
follows the current observations. Its fairly useless in terms of rainfall
intensity though, as the colours are awful! However, it gives a good general
idea of where the rain is, and saves a connection to the internet just to
check if anything's on the radar.
I don't know anything about a lightning tracker...its not on the Sydney one.
Matthew
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From: Marty [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999 11:11
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker
>Hi again,
>
>Is there a lightning tracker available on Foxtel?
>
>Also, a while ago someone mentioned that a rain radar was available on
Foxtel's
>weather channel (29). I have checked recently, but have seen no radar.
>
>I went up to Mt Coot-tha this evening around 9 o'clock for a bit of a
bo-peep,
>to see if we could see any lightning in the distance. Forget about not
seeing
>lightning, we couldn't even see the city! It was so foggy! We could barely
see
>the streetlights on the roads at the foot of Mt Coot-tha! Quite an eerie
and
>enjoyable experience.
>
>Ciao,
>
>Marty.
>Brisbane, Australia
>martyp at dynamite.com.au
>Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp
>Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning
>3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d
>ICQ: 11790565
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve
>To: severeweather
>Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999 21:21
>Subject: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker
>
>
> Hi All,
> I notice that the lightning tracker is always about 30 minutes behind,
but
>on the Teletext (page 170) it is only 30 seconds behind, Anyone know why?
>
> Steve
>
>
> http://sselka.tripod.com/
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