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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] [Fwd: [ready] New java-based ARLplot program in READY] 002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Ball Lightning Reported 003 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com] Ball Lightning Reported 004 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] Ball Lightning Reported 005 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 006 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 008 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 009 "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com] Last weekends Chase....... 010 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. NPMOC status... 012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 013 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal 014 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) shear and SRH 015 Jonty Hall [jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au] NPMOC status... 016 "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] In Darwin 017 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au In Darwin 018 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] NPMOC status... 019 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com] In Darwin 020 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) NPMOC status... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:02:07 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: [Fwd: [ready] New java-based ARLplot program in READY] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I thought that I'd forward this email to the list as some people might be interested in it. It's a new plotting programme, so that you can choose an area (ie rectangle, rather than a square, and you don't have to worry about lat/longs). Only one catch - the only way to get Australia the right side up in your final plot is to just click on the map, but you only get a square image again, and you have to fiddle with how many degrees radius you want. I've emailed and requested that they can devise a way to fix this, and have Australia the right side up. AVN SH is: http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/arlplotsrc.pl?metdata=AVNSH_191_km&hemis=Southern MRF SH is: http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/arlplotsrc.pl?metdata=MRF_191_km&hemis=Southern The email is below: -------- Original Message -------- >Subject: [ready] New java-based ARLplot program in READY >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:4:27 >From: "Glenn Rolph">Reply-To: "Real-time Environmental Applications and Display sYstem" > >To: "Real-time Environmental Applications and Display sYstem" > READY Listserver Message ------------------------ We have added another method to choice a map domain when plotting meteorological fields with the Interactive Forecast Mapping program (ARLPLOT) in READY. You can now use a rubber-banding technique to highlight the rectangle of interest. This will only work on the newer browsers that support java-based programs (the original method is still available for those that don't have a recent browser). As this is new and experimental, please submit problems to the READY webmaster. Enjoy! Glenn Rolph NOAA ARL Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:06:24 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Ball Lightning Reported Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, On Wednesday, the radio apparently interviewed some one who witnessed the phenomenal severe electrical t'storm that hit Texas, and several other towns at around 2:30am Wednesday morning. This person said "...there were balls of lightning rolling across the ground! I have never seen this before in my life..." Tracker was reporting phenomenal amounts of lightning, in excess of 100CG's per minute. As Ben mentioned earlier, there were also reports of people losing their roofs. Anyone care to comment? -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 X-Sender: cmaunder at mail.dynamite.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:31:27 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ball Lightning Reported Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 08:06 AM 10/29/99 +1000, you wrote: >Hi all, > >On Wednesday, the radio apparently interviewed some one who witnessed >the phenomenal severe electrical t'storm that hit Texas, and several >other towns at around 2:30am Wednesday morning. This person said >"...there were balls of lightning rolling across the ground! I have >never seen this before in my life..." > >Tracker was reporting phenomenal amounts of lightning, in excess of >100CG's per minute. As Ben mentioned earlier, there were also reports >of people losing their roofs. > >Anyone care to comment? How about "That's so cool!" or "pix??" :) ------------------------------------ Chris Maunder Canberra, Australia Dundas Software www.dundas.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 10:06:53 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ball Lightning Reported From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My only comment is, WOW! ---------- >From: Anthony Cornelius >To: Australian Weather Mailing List >Subject: aus-wx: Ball Lightning Reported >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 8:06 AM > > Hi all, > > On Wednesday, the radio apparently interviewed some one who witnessed > the phenomenal severe electrical t'storm that hit Texas, and several > other towns at around 2:30am Wednesday morning. This person said > "...there were balls of lightning rolling across the ground! I have > never seen this before in my life..." > > Tracker was reporting phenomenal amounts of lightning, in excess of > 100CG's per minute. As Ben mentioned earlier, there were also reports > of people losing their roofs. > > Anyone care to comment? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:04:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A potentially very nasty tropical cyclone is currently churning away in the Bay of Bengal. It has sustained winds of 135 knots at present, making it a Category 4 storm. It is forecast to intensify further. Given that most Bay of Bengal storms don't get beyond Category 3, this is a fairly serious matter. The forecast landfall point is in just about the worst imaginable place - near the border of India and Bangladesh, putting the Bangladesh coast in the firing line from any storm surge. Given the past history with cyclones in this area, the death toll has a fair chance of being catastrophic. Anyone want to guess what body count will be required for the story to make it onto page 1 of an Australian paper? (There have been six-figure tolls from cyclones on two occasions in the last 30 years in this region). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:37:40 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Probably over 1,000,000 before they will touch it. NOt a bad TC considering that they are at the end of the season - wonder if thats a prelude for our TC season? Blair Trewin on 29/10/99 11:04:55 AM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal A potentially very nasty tropical cyclone is currently churning away in the Bay of Bengal. It has sustained winds of 135 knots at present, making it a Category 4 storm. It is forecast to intensify further. Given that most Bay of Bengal storms don't get beyond Category 3, this is a fairly serious matter. The forecast landfall point is in just about the worst imaginable place - near the border of India and Bangladesh, putting the Bangladesh coast in the firing line from any storm surge. Given the past history with cyclones in this area, the death toll has a fair chance of being catastrophic. Anyone want to guess what body count will be required for the story to make it onto page 1 of an Australian paper? (There have been six-figure tolls from cyclones on two occasions in the last 30 years in this region). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 007 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:34:08 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Blair and all, > A potentially very nasty tropical cyclone is currently churning away > in the Bay of Bengal. It has sustained winds of 135 knots at present, > making it a Category 4 storm. It is forecast to intensify further. > Given that most Bay of Bengal storms don't get beyond Category 3, > this is a fairly serious matter. Certainly this will be a complete disaster - the TC that hit Bangledesh in 1970 killed between 300,000 and 500,000 people. The main killer was the storm surge, much of the area isn't much higher than sea level. The figures I have on this TC was only a Cat 2 (160km/h gusts)...although if some one believes they have more reliable, conflicting figures, I'd be more than happy to accept them (as this sounds too weak to be believable...) -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 12:46:58 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony - They said last night on CNN & BBC news that it was a Cat 4 TC with winds at arounf 130 knots - normally I wouldnt believe the news but they both agreed so they must be getting their info from somewhere. Paul. Anthony Cornelius on 29/10/99 12:34:08 PM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Hi Blair and all, > A potentially very nasty tropical cyclone is currently churning away > in the Bay of Bengal. It has sustained winds of 135 knots at present, > making it a Category 4 storm. It is forecast to intensify further. > Given that most Bay of Bengal storms don't get beyond Category 3, > this is a fairly serious matter. Certainly this will be a complete disaster - the TC that hit Bangledesh in 1970 killed between 300,000 and 500,000 people. The main killer was the storm surge, much of the area isn't much higher than sea level. The figures I have on this TC was only a Cat 2 (160km/h gusts)...although if some one believes they have more reliable, conflicting figures, I'd be more than happy to accept them (as this sounds too weak to be believable...) -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 X-Originating-IP: [210.9.51.34] From: "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Last weekends Chase....... Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:44:56 EST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, I apologize for the lateness of this email. I have been having lots of problems with my email and it is only now that I have been able to post this SATURDAY 23 OCT Well last weekend was a very interesting weekend with the rain really starting to come down on Saturday morning in Sydney and the Low developing to the north things were looking good for NW of Sydney. After a quick check of the LI's and of the latest Sat pic of NSW it was decided that the best place to head would be Dubbo. I set off and picked up Jimmy on the way and were out of Sydney by 9am. We drove across the mountains into Lithgow through steady rain, but as we came to Orange the rain lightened up and revealed a nice looking band of rain and embedded storms. What was interesting was that it was only 11:30am at this stage. Nothing worth chasing as we though. The road from Orange heads N to Dubbo and the whole way up we drove through constant heavy rain with the occasional strike of lightning nearby. A quick phone call from Patrick and Michael Bath assured us that we were not far from the end of the band. And sure enough as we entered Dubbo at around 1pm we could see the clearing to our N to NW. We headed N from Dubbo towards Gilgandra and stopped about half way right underneath the clearing. What a sight it was, perfect conditions also. There were storms to the N, NE, E the rain storm band to SE and S with more developing stuff to our W with some great accas to be seen in the clearing. Another Phone call advised us that the storm to our NE was a Severe storm . It certainly looked good with a nice boiling updraught coming from behind but it looked a bit too far to go after and considering the speed they were traveling it was decided it was not worth it and we would wait for the action to the clearing in the W to develop. We also noted the inflow from SE to NW of the developing storms to our NW. The visible low cloud was really being pulled into the new system and the wind on ground level was extremely strong. We ducked into Gilgandra and picked up some lunch before heading onto the road W to Warren. We stopped about 10 kms out of Gilgandra and watched as the cloud cover had formed above and to our N to E a band of embedded storms were once again teasing us to go after them. But still we stood our ground and waited for the new development (now above and to the W) to do something. There was now 100% cloud above us which is a pity as we couldn't see any vertical development. By about 3pm heavy rain dropped from the sky to the S, above us and to the N. Nothing too exciting though. What took our attention though was the sky to the W. It had taken on a very dark appearance and so was decided we would head further W and see what we could make of it. About 10kms further we pulled over to get some shots of a now active storm to the W. It had a very nice green tinge with what seemed to be a mixture of hail shafts and heavy rain underneath. There was however not too much lightning to be seen. The cell passed and all that was witnessed was one very close CG and some very heavy rain. Once passed there wasn't too much further W at that stage just a lot of cloud cover. We headed back towards the storm and Dubbo but couldn't catch it. Some very nice Mammatus be seen from the back end. At 5pm we started back the journey to Sydney .There was more developing Congestus turning to Cb to our west again, but it looked very weak. Arrived back into Sydney about 10pm after traveling 900kms for the day. It was definitely worth the trip and I know it gave me a great incite on how Low pressure systems affect the weather across the state. SUNDAY 24 OCT 9am - Once again a quick check of the LI's, winds and satellite and once again I was off to Williamtown to meet up with Jimmy. There certainly was a chance for some strong storms especially with the shear and the strong upper level winds near the Hunter and Northwards. On my way out I stopped at a lookout at the end of my street with a clear view over the City and Southwards. Well I can see why Wollongong copped a hammering. There was clear sky all around but to the South a wall of CB's .A very pretty sight. I even had people walking past commenting on how amazing it looked, and I m happy to say that I got some great shots and video of it. By now it was around 10am , crap I was going to be late meeting Jimmy, but it was worth it.Headed straight up the F3 and in no time at all was past Newcastle. A quick call from Jimmy alerted me that there was already some severe storms to our north near Taree and onwards. Bulahdelah was our new target area. At Newcastle I ran into a decaying cell that was just dumping alot of rain.I meet Jimmy near Buladelah at around 12:30pm and received a call from Max who advised that the more intense cells had passed out across the sea and were moving again at high speeds. There was one in particular near Taree that had been showing Red for a while. Apparently there was more development to the N and NW of Taree all heading SE which at this stage was covered by low cloud. After a quick bite it was back on to the Pacific HWY towards Taree. On the Bulladelah range we encountered a nice cell with some very heavy rain which made the trip across quite interesting. On the other side we broke clear of that cell and could see to our north through the broken middle level and low level cloud some very nice anvils.Near Nabiac at around 1 - 2pm we picked up some petrol and was advised by the garage owner that Taree had reported up to golf ball size hail in places from the Big cell that went through about 12pm. A quick look out the window showed a very dark base heading towards us. Unfortunately the low level cloud flowing into the cell was covering all the features of it. A quick look again and it was decided to head N of the cell hopefully to get a better view of it and to get out of the way off the Hail. We ended up at Old Bar about 15km E of Taree and watched as the main cell passed to our South. Some weaker cells with just heavy rain passed over head but the annoying part was that the Lowcloud didn't clear so no significant features could be seen, not even the back of the storm. Some more calls from Max and Anthony gave us the news that the main stuff had passed out to sea but there was stillmore developing to the W and SW. It was now about 3pm and not wanting to be too far from home headed back to Williamtown. We got there about 4:30pm and witnessed something that I have never seen before. On the whole coastal fringe N and S was a mid- high level Stratus type cloud. To the W and NW was just blue sky, but very dry looking. Right on the edge of the stratus cloud was a large congestus that had grown right through the cloud layer. Just that looked great but what really made it special was the fact that from side on we could see the whole formation of it very clearly. This cloud also seemed to be rotating clockwise as it rose!!!! it sure was a great example of the rotational shear that day it. It was just south of Newcastle crossing the coast , no chance of going after it but a very nice sight. Back on the F3 again and heading to Sydney at about 6pm and another surprise for us. Another Cell coming across from the W. With the Sun setting in the background it sure made for some nice photo opportunities. At wyong we passed to the side of it and was surprised again as hail started pounding against the roof of the car. A quick stop at the Servo (protection for the car) and some nice CC's and we were on our way home again. Another interesting day chasing. It was great being able to get out and witness these events first hand. A big thanks goes out to Anthony, Max, Michael, Patrick and others who called with regular updates. What a season so far ......... and its only October ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:53:08 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Anthony - > They said last night on CNN & BBC news that it was a Cat 4 TC with winds at > arounf 130 knots - normally I wouldnt believe the news but they both agreed so > they must be getting their info from somewhere. > > Paul. > The Weather Channel's web site (www.weather.com) also backs this up. This article also quotes possible storm surges of 6-12 metres. I gather Bangladesh has a better emergency response system than they did in 1970 (when there was also a lot of political unrest), but evacuating everyone on the coast to higher ground, which is what the Americans would be doing in a similar situation, is presumably still beyond them. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:03:47 +1000 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: NPMOC status... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com WX & ASWA-people, I've just lost contact with http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/ from 13:30 today which is returning the error "client forbidden". Can this be confirmed or otherwise by other persons on the list or in ASWA ASAP please? I'm trying to isolate the problem. Please note that if access is not restored from my computer, then the hourly archive of gmsd/gmsc/gmsfull will cease and you will need to obtain archive satpic images from elsewhere Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:06:48 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just checked out the latest warnings (via the Hong Kong Weather Underground) on this storm. The good news is that it isn't heading for Bangladesh. The bad news is that it has intensified further and now has sustained winds of 140 knots. It is currently about 300km SSW of Calcutta and is expected to make landfall by 0600Z (1600 AEST) about 60km NE of Cuttack (a city of some size which I know of chiefly because Australia's played the odd cricket game there). I don't know much about how heavily populated this coastline is (although presumably there's no such thing as sparsely populated coastline in India). Still, it sounds like a less horrific scenario than it could have been (although I'd still expect the death toll to be in the hundreds or thousands). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:24:57 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not good news for those over there - BUT excellent stuff Blair keep it up! Paul Blair Trewin on 29/10/99 02:06:48 PM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nasty TC in Bay of Bengal Just checked out the latest warnings (via the Hong Kong Weather Underground) on this storm. The good news is that it isn't heading for Bangladesh. The bad news is that it has intensified further and now has sustained winds of 140 knots. It is currently about 300km SSW of Calcutta and is expected to make landfall by 0600Z (1600 AEST) about 60km NE of Cuttack (a city of some size which I know of chiefly because Australia's played the odd cricket game there). I don't know much about how heavily populated this coastline is (although presumably there's no such thing as sparsely populated coastline in India). Still, it sounds like a less horrific scenario than it could have been (although I'd still expect the death toll to be in the hundreds or thousands). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: shear and SRH Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:28:53 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id AAA28037 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:27:03 +0000 (GMT), Harald Richter wrote: >Regarding supercell shear: I try and cut out the "middle man" >and look at the 0-6 km shear vector. If that's big enough >(40 kts +) I smile, if not, I write negative emails. >I know, that 40+ value is an empirically based choice >looking at Southern Plains (US) storms only. But at this >stage (assuming the laws of physics are the same everywhere) >I see no reason to adjust the value with latitude/time of year/other >stuff. > The CIMSS satpic cloud motion data is useful here, showing the average windsheer between the 925/700hPa layer and the 350/150hPa layer every 6 hours. They have also just introduced (yesterday) panels showing the 24-hour windsheer change. URL is http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/shemi/winds/winds.html -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather Links and News http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:42:07 -1100 (DST) From: Jonty Hall [jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au] To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: NPMOC status... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, This is my first post here, so hi! everybody.... I can confirm that there is some trouble with http://www.npmoc.navy.mil - I get the same error message. All the information is stillavailable at the NRL Monterey California: kauai.nrlmry.navy.mil:80/sat-bin/tc_home At 00Z the cyclone was more or less on the coast not far from Cuttack and had started to weaken rapidly. There is still good organisation there, but the cloud tops have warmed considerably, and the eye was becoming ragged. Definitely not a worse case scenario for Bangladesh, but not good either. There has been strong on-shore winds up the entire Bay of Bengal striking the Ganges delta - there will be a substantial storm surge there, even though the cyclone did not hit directly. The forecast recurvature has been delayed, and that has partially saved Bangladesh. But recurvature is still likely, which will take the remains of the storm over Bangladesh. There's going to be a lot of water hanging around there with not many places to go. A death toll in the thousands would seem likely all things considered, but anything above 10 000 would be slightly surprising IMO (depening on the immediate future of the TC of course). Jonty. ____________________________________________________________________ Jonty Hall jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au CRC Southern Hemisphere Meteorology Monash University Wellington Road, Clayton, Vic 3168 Ph +61 3 9905 9684 ____________________________________________________________________ On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Michael Scollay wrote: > WX & ASWA-people, > > I've just lost contact with http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/ from 13:30 > today which is returning the error "client forbidden". Can this > be confirmed or otherwise by other persons on the list or in ASWA > ASAP please? I'm trying to isolate the problem. > > Please note that if access is not restored from my computer, then > the hourly archive of gmsd/gmsc/gmsfull will cease and you will > need to obtain archive satpic images from elsewhere > > Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 016 X-Originating-IP: [203.21.6.48] From: "Chris Gribben" [chrisgribben at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: In Darwin Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:27:25 PDT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all - made it safely to Darwin - bloody hot although it is raining as we speak. Storm already which is a good start. Cells galore atm - only clear area really is the NW. Hector is going and is its usual 18-20km or so in height. Cells from E round to the W. Off to have a look now and run around in the rain to cool off a bit :) May everyone get good storms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: NSW_AG To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:37:05 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: In Darwin Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Im Jealous - only 8 days to go before Im there as well Chris! Looking forward to it! Bring it on........ Paul. "Chris Gribben" on 29/10/99 03:27:25 PM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: (bcc: Paul Mossman/LCO/NSW_AG) Subject: aus-wx: In Darwin Hi all - made it safely to Darwin - bloody hot although it is raining as we speak. Storm already which is a good start. Cells galore atm - only clear area really is the NW. Hector is going and is its usual 18-20km or so in height. Cells from E round to the W. Off to have a look now and run around in the rain to cool off a bit :) May everyone get good storms ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: NPMOC status... Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:36:07 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have no problem at 3:35 AEST. John. >snip WX & ASWA-people, I've just lost contact with http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/ from 13:30 today which is returning the error "client forbidden". Can this be confirmed or otherwise by other persons on the list or in ASWA ASAP please? I'm trying to isolate the problem. Please note that if access is not restored from my computer, then the hourly archive of gmsd/gmsc/gmsfull will cease and you will need to obtain archive satpic images from elsewhere Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 X-Sender: cmaunder at mail.dynamite.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:51:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: In Darwin Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:27 PM 10/28/99 PDT, you wrote: >Hi all - made it safely to Darwin - bloody hot although it is raining as we >speak. Storm already which is a good start. Cells galore atm - only clear >area really is the NW. Hector is going and is its usual 18-20km or so in >height. Cells from E round to the W. Off to have a look now and run around >in the rain to cool off a bit :) Cruel, too cruel Chris, in sunny, breezy, cloud-free Canberra. ------------------------------------ Chris Maunder Canberra, Australia Dundas Software www.dundas.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NPMOC status... Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 05:50:34 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id BAA06742 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:03:47 +1000, Michael Scollay wrote: >WX & ASWA-people, > >I've just lost contact with http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/ from 13:30 >today which is returning the error "client forbidden". Can this >be confirmed or otherwise by other persons on the list or in ASWA >ASAP please? I'm trying to isolate the problem. > I can get on to http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/ and http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/products/jtwc/GMSFull_ir2.jpg ok (at 15.50EST). The full ir2 is a bit strange, with the top 10% normal and the bottom 90% reversed and purplish. Maybe they're having problems. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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