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001 Greg Spencer [hawk at iinet.net.au] latest pics finally up
002 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] AMOS Weatherwatch meeting
003 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] latest pics finally up
004 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Severe flooding in lower South Island
005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Severe flooding in lower South Island
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] latest pics finally up
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] supercell motion (fwd)
008 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] supercell motion (fwd)
009 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] supercell motion (fwd)
010 Bill Webb [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Qld Central Area storms
011 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Finally Going to get a Storm!!
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Chase - 2 UK chasers arriving late
013 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] supercell motion (fwd)
014 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] supercell motion (fwd)
015 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Severe flooding in lower South Island
016 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com] supercell motion (fwd)
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Severe flooding in lower South Island
018 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] supercell motion (fwd)
019 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Waterspout off Newcastle. Is this heaven!
020 "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz] Severe flooding in lower South Island
021 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Waterspout off Newcastle. Is this heaven!
022 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. ASWA Archive Radar Additions...
023 "Matt Smith" [ozchase at hotmail.com] Chase Update
024 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au] Great Rain totals last night til 9am this morning
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001
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 21:57:50 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at iinet.net.au]
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Les,
All the pics were taken within a few minutes of each other. There was a
huge line of storms runnning parallel to almost the entire west coast of
WA. Ben Quinn has a copy of the sat pic on his web site, I cant remember
the URL though :-(
The storms were about 100km east of me
Regards
Greg
"Leslie R. Lemon" wrote:
>
> Greg:
>
> > Enjoy :-)
>
> I will join the long chorus of applause! Great pics! I assume that all
> the photos are facing east or some variation of east, except, assuming the
> earth rotates the same direction in the southern hemisphere , for the
> wonderful sunset, of course. Do you know the time differences between
> photo's and the approximate distance to the storms?
>
> Les
>
> ************************
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: AMOS Weatherwatch meeting
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Please note the next Weatherwatch meeting is Wednesday November 24th 1999
at 7:30pm at Macquarie University. Parking $1.00 per hour and must have it
in coins.
Subject of the meeting is "Results of Phenomena Associated with Severe
Weather" More details phone Alan WIlliams (02) 9488 9975 or e-mail him
at alanjwilliams at ozemail.com.au
Please note that this is separate from the combined ASWA/AMOS
Weatherwatch meeting on the 15th December. More info on that later.
Those on the chase will obviously not go to next Wednesday's meeting.
Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:33:11 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest pics finally up
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Greg, thanks very much for this info! Again, great pics! [S]
> All the pics were taken within a few minutes of each other. There was a
> huge line of storms runnning parallel to almost the entire west coast of
> WA. Ben Quinn has a copy of the sat pic on his web site, I cant remember
> the URL though :-(
>
> The storms were about 100km east of me
Les
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe flooding in lower South Island
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:55:43 +1300
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The rain system has moved off, but the Southern Lakes area is still
suffering the effects of the worst flooding since 1878. Many roads are
still closed, and the Clutha River remains dangerously high. Indeed the
worst of the flooding is only now affecting the lower reaches (property
damage at Balclutha, southwest of Dunedin), though the waters are
stabilising upstream. Parts of downtown Queenstown are still under lake
water, while flooding is also affecting major Southland rivers. Snow still
blanketed the Te Anau area yesterday; depths varying from 10 to 25cm.
By contrast, only about 6mm in Christchurch yesterday. (all in afternoon)
Cloudy, cool (about 8 degrees), and calm in the city this morning. However,
more showers are forecast today and tomorrow, possibly with hail and
thunder, which are also expected through many other parts of NZ.
Ben Tichborne
Christchurch
NZ
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:19:50 +1000
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Hi Ben and all,
Ben Tichborne wrote:
I saw some footage of the floods on the news last night, some of the
footage was certainly amazing! They (the media) were saying it was the
worse flood in the area since the 1840's - is this true, or a media
exaggeration?
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(ASWA)
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:17:41 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Greg and all,
Not sure either exactly where Ben has put the WA satpics, but I have
some sat pics & radar saved on my HD. I've finally been able to start
extracting files from my caching 'system' for my archive.
Go here: http://bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/WA/
gmsc(a, b, c, d) are the sat pics, and PerthLoop is a combination of
loops I've joined together of the storms.
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(ASWA)
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QLD, 4153
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:39:16 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Les,
"Leslie R. Lemon" wrote:
>
> Anthony:
> What are the roads like out there? Are there any? That would be really
> fascinating if those storms and situations could be chased!
As John W. mentioned before, the road system is very poor. But it
improves somewhat when you travel east into the Maranoa and Darling
Downs district. In fact, the Darling Downs has a very good road
network, and is quite flat. I think this deterioates as you head into
the Maranoa region, and further as you go into the channel country. The
roads around Longreach etc are also quite poor, most of them would be
4WD country (especially in the rain!) But, you might (if you're lucky,
and very polite), be able to get permission to drive on a farmer's
property, but I've never tried this before.
The Darling Downs also receive more than their fair share of
thunderstorms, but radar is almost non-existant in this area. None the
less, some towns have been hit very hard in this area.
I would like to echo Paul Graham's thoughts though; have you ever
considered to coming to Australia for a chase? NE NSW/SE QLD also
receives many severe thunderstorms, and have been quite spectacular.
I have some historical data on the region, a map of severe thunderstorms
around Queensland, was compiled about 80 years ago. It includes:
- Number of significant severe thunderstorms in Brisbane (only) from
1852 to 1912.
- Number of significant severe thunderstorms on the Downs, around SE
QLD, central coast and central districts from about 1872-1912 (it says
35-50yrs, but most were taken from about 40yrs) - so given this, you
really should multiply the data by one and a half to compare it with
Brisbane. And remember, that these places were very very small towns
back in the 1800's, a town would have been very unlikely to be hit from
a severe thunderstorm back then, because of their size.
- Number of significant thunderstorms in western QLD, and the tropics in
the past 30 years. Even when you double the tropics data, you can see
it tapers off quite quickly after Rockhampton (and west).
I've scanned the map, you can go here to see it:
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/anthony/QLDStorms.jpg
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Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
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QLD, 4153
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:42:39 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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I Jane,
There's no real cutoff points for a WER and BWER, but a BWER is
'bounded' - ie, on the diagram I drew, you can see that the WER is
'bounded' by a distinct overhang. Whereas the normal WER on a typical
severe multicell cell, is not bounded, and the overhang is fairly flat,
and does not dip in t the front. Somewhat difficult to explain on here,
if you require further clarification, I'll tell you when I meet up with
you on the chase, much easier to talk face to face :)
Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> So what exactly is the difference between a WER & a BWER?
> ie: what are the cutoff points? (excuse me for being slow)
>
> Jane ONeill
> Melbourne
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:56:13 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Les,
Thanks very much for the informatin regarding BWER's vs supercells &
multicells. If you could perhaps find some papers and scan them onto
the web, I'd *VERY* much appreciate it! We lack many texts here in
Australia, it's very difficult to find books on weather here. Most
bookstores contain 1 or 2 weather books, but are very basic. Sydney is
much more fortunate, for those Sydney Siders looking for weather
textbooks, they should goto Dymocks in the CBD. They have their own
meteorology section there, and when I was in Sydney last year for the
Brisbane/Cantebury Grand Final, I blew all my money on books there!
>From memory, they had at least two uni met textbooks. One was
specifically on Australia and NZ.
I also had a ball in the US in September, with over 50 weather books to
choose from! Unfortunately, they only had one uni-level met textbook
(Thunderstorm Morphology and Dynamics by Kessler), but I was able to get
other in depth books (and accounts) of tornadoes. I was hoping for a
few more, but I would guess that the plains of the US would contain many
more?
People can of course, see a fairly extensive met book collection at:
http://www.chaseday.com/wx-books2.htm
But they're all very expensive, and in $US to make it worse, not to
mention postage for books over here is very costly. Also, I don't have
a credit card - another problem! As it costs more money to convert a
bank cheque into $US.
When I attend next year's ASWA AGM in Sydney, if I get a chance, I'd
like to go into the CBD to purchase a few more.
Hopefully you'll have some success in finding those papers, thanks and
talk to you later,
"Leslie R. Lemon" wrote:
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(ASWA)
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QLD, 4153
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:07:52 +1000
From: Bill Webb [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
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Hi list,
VERY active afternoon and evening up here yesterday (Thursday).
Rainfall reports from 5mm to 145mm along a stretch of coast between
Carmila and Bowen. Some minor damage reported from Mackay and Pioneer
Valley - reports of two houses unroofed. Some hail reported, and trees
down. Power out in Proserpine for some hours early in the night plus
some minor local urban flooding. Crop damage (cotton/grapes) from hail
(size unknown) around Emerald further west, and hail at Blackwater. No
doubt (from radar) some fair storms across the Central highlands and
coalfields. One I saw on Mackay radar 0610 UTC about 150 km SW of Mackay
looked pretty savage by our standards.
Southern end of contributing trough system currently (0900 EST) about
the Whitsundays and moving north, so most of the action this evening
should be north of Proserpine. E/SE winds becoming established in place
of N/NE yesterday - back to coastal showers.
Regards,
Bill,
Proserpine, Q.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally Going to get a Storm!!
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>
> Not trying to label anything, just stating the facts. While the area
> around Darwin does indeed get their fair share of thunderstorms,
> many/most of these are non-severe. Please keep in mind, that by
> "severe" I'm refering to the BoM definition of:
> - Wind gusts of 90km/h or over (wind gusts of 30kn or more are not
> uncommon, in fact, this would be the "norm" in many "normal"
> thunderstorms I'd imagine, especially in high CAPE environments);
> - Rain accumulation of 25-50mm (or more) in one hour or less, no doubt
> Darwin tops the list on this criteria;
Actually, the rain criterion is based on a given return period (10
years, I think) - so the rainfall rate required for severe status
would vary considerably by location. (It's hard to imagine too many
thunderstorms in Darwin which wouldn't achieve 25-50mm/hour at their
peak!).
> - Tornadoes;
> - Hail of 2cm or larger in diameter. Last year, I spoke with the Darwin
> BoM, and they informed me that hail has never been officially reported
> in Darwin itself, only residents phoning and telling them of "rice
> grain/mushy stuff." The WBZ is just too high there, not to mention the
> warm atmosphere.
>
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:46:30 +0000
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Jimmy Deguara ,
Jane ONeill
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list -
Due to contractual problems at my end (i) not been paid (... a lot!)
this month (ii) problems with the company I'm working for - I'm not
going to be able to make it 8pm on Saturday Night until I get this issue
sorted out - I'm not prepared to go several thousand in the red... , we
shall be out on the first standby flight to Sydney / Canberra, etc.
Sorry about this - I'll catch up with the fun there please keep me in
the know via ICQ / email.
Fortunately Quntas will try and get us on another flight sometime in the
next 3-4 days.
(very unhappy) Les & Christine (UK)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:18:42 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: supercell motion (fwd)
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Anthony and all:
> I would like to echo Paul Graham's thoughts though; have you ever
> considered to coming to Australia for a chase? NE NSW/SE QLD also
> receives many severe thunderstorms, and have been quite spectacular.
I would love to. For a variety of reasons I would very much like to come
to Australia but do not have the $ nor the time now. Perhaps in the
future.
Thank you for your kind invitation. I hope to see you all in OK if not
before. (BTW, in OK they have "section line" roads which are each a mile
apart, both north and south and east and west.)
Les
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 20:32:44 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: supercell motion (fwd)
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Anthony:
I do not have a web site as yet but do need one. I may be able to get some
papers on the web soon, however. We will see. You are quite welcome, btw.
I do appreciate your difficulty in getting good resources. Perhaps, if
the ASWA collects dues, copies of the AMS Sever Local Storms and
Conference's on Radar preprints could be ordered. They are really rather
economical.
Les
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe flooding in lower South Island
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:55:39 +1300
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I saw some footage of the floods on the news last night, some of the
> footage was certainly amazing! They (the media) were saying it was the
> worse flood in the area since the 1840's - is this true, or a media
> exaggeration?
They were, according to the NZ media, the worst (as defined by lake and
river levels) since the great floods of September 1878. BTW, the 1878
floods were caused by the melting of snows which had accumulated (in huge
quantities) in the mountains during the winter of that year. (believed to
be during a major El Nino event)
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:44:22 -0500
From: David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: supercell motion (fwd)
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This message was bounce by Majordomo because the included binaries made it
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Jane:
The slopping echo overhang is, as I pointed out in the storm photo, preci=
p
that is descending from the anvil. It slopes because it is initially
contained in the anvil at higher levels and will sometimes extend up-shea=
r
all the way to the anvil edge furthest from the storm. As it falls, it i=
s
advected toward the the cumulonimbus tower (by the storm relative winds)
that has created the anvil. The lower reaches of the falling precip
create, as detected by the radar, the base of the echo overhang. It slop=
es
because the precip falls further and further as it approaches the storm C=
B
and it finally reaches the surface as the low-level echo and precip regio=
n.
The region beneath the echo overhang is the WER. In some storms, the
updraft core within that CB tower is so intense that precip is not allowe=
d
to grow from the cloud droplets before they reach high levels. Moreover,=
once those cloud droplets do reach precip sizes, and do grow aloft they
are not allowed to fall back into the updraft. This creates a high
reflectivity core of precip held well aloft above the visual CB tower. S=
o,
what has happened, is that the descending precip from the anvil within th=
e
overhang continues to fall outside and around the CB tower. But remember=
the core of intense updraft within the tower keeps appreciable precip out=
of it. Thus, it appears that the base of the overhang is lifted far abov=
e
the surrounding base within that CB tower and thus, forms a cone or
cylinder-like region of weak reflectivities within the CB tower but
surrounded by higher reflectivities in the overhang. That conically shap=
ed
region or cylinder shaped region is the Bounded Weak Echo Region. If the=
radar is scanned quasi horizontally across that region, what is seen is
similar to a donut of high reflectivities surrounding the donut hole. Th=
at
donut hole is the BWER. Above the BWER is the canopy of high
reflectivities, an echo core, which is, in reality, abundant supercooled
water, growing hail, grapul, and snow in the summit of the updraft itself=
. =
Where does that concentration of precip go? It is forced outward in the
anvil by the intense divergence that caries that precip outward, some int=
o
the upwind direction where it then falls out of the anvil forming the
overhang already described. I produced a series of figures to illustrate=
this. For the northern hemisphere and with some written text (that needs=
revision) they are shown here: =
. =
Keep in mind these are figures which are modified versions of my own but =
produced by others from my publications. Another site where more
explanatory info can be found is: =
and =
continued here:
. =
South Africa translated those for the southern hemisphere. Thy are
attached. They include both the PPI type radar scans with the low-level=
echo, mid -level echo and echo top all overlaid. The other version is fo=
r
the RHI or vertical cross sections.
I will send you the copies of figures from my tech memo and the captions
later.
Now you may ask away. I am sure you are now very confused!!! [S].
Les
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe flooding in lower South Island
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:00:11 +1100 (EST)
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>
>
>
> I saw some footage of the floods on the news last night, some of the
> > footage was certainly amazing! They (the media) were saying it was the
> > worse flood in the area since the 1840's - is this true, or a media
> > exaggeration?
>
> They were, according to the NZ media, the worst (as defined by lake and
> river levels) since the great floods of September 1878. BTW, the 1878
> floods were caused by the melting of snows which had accumulated (in huge
> quantities) in the mountains during the winter of that year. (believed to
> be during a major El Nino event)
Was snowmelt a significant contributor to this event?
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:52:49 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: supercell motion (fwd)
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Dave:
Thank you for rescuing the message. After I sent it and realized it had
gone to the group with the attachments, I realized I had made a mistake.
I hope the message did not end up to be so disjointed as to be
unintelligible. I could resend it if needed. In reality I was going to
send it just to Jane where I know there would not have been a problem with
the attachments. Another Sr. moment! [S]
Once again....I am sorry for the inconvenience.
Les
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Waterspout off Newcastle. Is this heaven!
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:46:42 +1100
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Yes, the surf in the waterspout pic foreground was sort of lame, 3ft of
onshore mush.
Michael
> Geeze just when i thought nothing could be finer to look out then my
> poster of the "Hot Buttered" girl from Octobers surfing paper Tracks, this
> comes along!!!!!! A pic of a waterspout with surfers in the
foreground!!!!I
> wonder what could be better. Mmmmmmm would it be possible for the
Newcastle
> ppl to arrange a pic of a guy pulling into a barrel, fully slotted, with
an
> F-5 down in bushland on the coast? Oh, oh and the Hot Buttered Girly lying
> on the beach maybe? Ta
>
> Ira Fehlberg
>
>
>
> At 19:06 18/11/99 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >Rumours of a waterspout off Newcastle this morning (around 7.30) were
> >confirmed by a vision captured by a surfcam on one of our beaches here.
> >Local weather reporter, Nat Jeffrey, called it a "waterspout or
tornado" -
> >when will they get it right??!! You can see it at www.surfcam.com.au
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Rob Lord
> >Charlestown
> >
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From: "Ben Tichborne" [tich at netaccess.co.nz]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe flooding in lower South Island
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:18:12 +1300
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> They were, according to the NZ media, the worst (as defined by lake and
> > river levels) since the great floods of September 1878. BTW, the 1878
> > floods were caused by the melting of snows which had accumulated (in
huge
> > quantities) in the mountains during the winter of that year. (believed
to
> > be during a major El Nino event)
>
> Was snowmelt a significant contributor to this event?
I'm not sure, but there has been no reference to it in the media as a
cause. There was a severe snowstorm in the Southern Lakes area in early
July, resulting in a thicker than normal snow cover in the mountains for
the remainder of winter, but that area has experienced a much warmer than
usual early spring, so a good deal of the snow should have melted.
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 03:35:11 +0800
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From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Waterspout off Newcastle. Is this heaven!
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yeah i know but hey its a start!
At 17:46 19/11/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Yes, the surf in the waterspout pic foreground was sort of lame, 3ft of
>onshore mush.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>> Geeze just when i thought nothing could be finer to look out then my
>> poster of the "Hot Buttered" girl from Octobers surfing paper Tracks, this
>> comes along!!!!!! A pic of a waterspout with surfers in the
>foreground!!!!I
>> wonder what could be better. Mmmmmmm would it be possible for the
>Newcastle
>> ppl to arrange a pic of a guy pulling into a barrel, fully slotted, with
>an
>> F-5 down in bushland on the coast? Oh, oh and the Hot Buttered Girly lying
>> on the beach maybe? Ta
>>
>> Ira Fehlberg
>>
>>
>>
>> At 19:06 18/11/99 +1100, you wrote:
>> >Hi all,
>> >Rumours of a waterspout off Newcastle this morning (around 7.30) were
>> >confirmed by a vision captured by a surfcam on one of our beaches here.
>> >Local weather reporter, Nat Jeffrey, called it a "waterspout or
>tornado" -
>> >when will they get it right??!! You can see it at www.surfcam.com.au
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >Rob Lord
>> >Charlestown
>> >
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 19:25:36 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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The following sites comprise the total ASWA radar archives as of
199911190800 UTC. Additions are mainly for the benefit of the Storm
Chase in the next two weeks and the transfer of one ASWA member to
Darwin;
syd1024 Sydney broad-scale
syd256 Sydney narrow-scale
wil256 Williamtown narrow-scale (added)
gra256 Grafton narrow-scale
cof256 Coffs Harbour narrow-scale (added)
mor256 Moree narrow-scale (added)
wag256 Wagga narrow-scale (added)
bri1024 Brisbane broad-scale
bri256 Brisbane narrow-scale
gym256 Gympie narrow-scale (added)
cha256 Charleville narrow-scale (added)
lon256 Longreach narrow-scale (added)
gla256 Gladstone narrow-scale (added)
mel1024 Melbourne broad-scale
mel256 Melbourne narrow-scale
ade1024 Adelaide broad-scale
ade256 Adelaide narrow-scale
per1024 Perth broad-scale
per256 Perth narrow-scale
dar1024 Darwin broad-scale (added)
dar256 Darwin narrow-scale (added)
tas1024 NW Tasmania broad-scale
tas256 NW Tasmania narrow-scale
Please advise any urgent additions by E-Mail direct to me.
Subject to seasonal lack of storms, some sites may be removed
from the archives subject to the availability of free disk
space on my workstation.
Have a great end-of-year chase...I'll be watching:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Matt Smith" [ozchase at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Chase Update
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:17:05 EST
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Hi Everyone
I just called Greg Browning, the VIC boys are at Dubbo, not bad for a days
driving! There planning on heading to Cunnumulla? (spelling) which is
between Bourke and Charleville tomorrow.
Myself and James Harris will probably head out to Dubbo, leaving saturday
evening, getting there late saturday night. (see what the models are doing
first)
And Jimmy/Matt Piper are headed to Walgett or there abouts tomorrow.
Thats the update for now
Matt Smith
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 18:51:02 +1000
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]
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Hi Paul and Everyone,
Just in passing but couldnt resist it when I saw Borroloola and Centre Island
mentioned. Was fortunate enough to be camping on Centre Island (sleeping bag
and mozzie net only) a few years back around 2-3 days after a fairly nice
late season cyclone had gone through. The trip out to the island from
Borroloola was interesting to say the least. Anyway whilst wandering through
the heavy mangrove swamp along the shoreline of the island (croc infested)
and a glance at the sky - and there was this wonderful massive superb
towering monster heading straight at me. Managed to make it back to a rock
cave on the shoreline and watched as this massive storm pelted huge warm
raindrops. Got some nice photos of the cloud mass and some nice rain shots
from the entrance of the cave out into the squall.
Sorry for the trip down memory lane but I love that part of the country.
Susan
PS: The sleeping bag was soaked and the sand was quite wet - not a very
comfortable night - especially when we woke to find a bloody great croc slide
right next to us
Paul Mossman wrote:
> Howdy all - some very heavy rain yesterday during those storms -
>
> Borroloola had 96mm til 9am
> Centre Island in the Katherine area had 62mm - all received from the
> near stationary storms that formed on the Trough Line that spanned half
> of Australia last night - this morning.
>
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