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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Weather Lore and theory... 002 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Re: Weather Lore and theory... 003 "Nick Sykes" [njsykes at yahoo.com] Another Melbourne Heat Wave?? 004 "Nick Sykes" [njsykes at yahoo.com] Another Melbourne Heat Wave?? 005 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au] Highest Public Pools in Australia? 006 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] First chase a failure 007 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] My new page 008 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Re: My new page 009 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] First old century of the summer in Perth 010 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] 7631 kms later 011 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Big Chase Update 012 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Fwd: Re: data and video stills FOR THOSE INTERESTED 013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Tornado?? 014 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Back from the "End of Year Chase" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 X-Originating-IP: [203.25.186.106] From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Weather Lore and theory... Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 02:51:25 EST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, In the years that I've been surfing the 'web for weather information there has been one really annoying aspect... a lot of information is in HTML which has required either a very long log-on or super speed-reading and retention (i.e. "click on the word for more information") For people with limited access (and poor memories, like me!) I've always wanted sites where I could just download the pages, maybe print them out for later perusal, but be able to actually read at leisure the stuff that people post! (and not forty pages with tabs marked!) So...I've started a crusade (actually it seems anti-net but isn't) for easier access to the stuff on the 'net. What I'm trying to do is make it easy for people who don't have infinite web access to download informative, useful, interesting or just plain weird information, in PDF format (using Adobe Acrobat I guess) that can be printed out straight away... Whoooh...glad I got THAT off my chest... well anyway, I've been raiding some of the best sites on the 'net (especially Gilberte Sebenste's) and converting the more inter-active bits into linear articles...my first try is as follows... http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/requests.html click on the "Tornadogenesis" thing...it's in .zip format...which seems to be the easiest way for me (on a Mac) to upload...and then use Acrobat Reader to view.... I'm interested in three things [1] Did it open and show all pix? and [2] Is it worth my while continuing with more sites? [3] Do I have to .zip files to upload (for PDF files)? Thanx for your forbearance, Kevin from Wycheproof. P.S. I've played sub-editor pretty freely... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 X-Sender: carls at ford.ace-net.com.au Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 04:32:32 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Re: Weather Lore and theory... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Kevin. You wrote: >In the years that I've been surfing the 'web for weather information there >has been one really annoying aspect... a lot of information is in HTML which >has required either a very long log-on or super speed-reading and retention >(i.e. "click on the word for more information") > >For people with limited access (and poor memories, like me!) I've always >wanted sites where I could just download the pages, maybe print them out for >later perusal, but be able to actually read at leisure the stuff that people >post! (and not forty pages with tabs marked!) I noticed you use a Mac, so there may be a simple solution for you. Have you tried the new pre-release iCab browser? It's available for Macintosh only (sorry Wintel users). It is built to the strict W3c HTML 4.0 standard (unlike NS and MSIE) with built in HTML Error Check for web page debugging, and settings to emulate Netscape and IE if you want it to. It has loads of user friendly features, including the ability to save web pages as web-archives (compressed HTML + images in .zip format), or you can save them in HTML or text format and save the images seperately. There is a Download Manager that enables simultaneous multiple downloads, and you can set the depth of linked pages you want to download, say 3 or 4 links deep, including pages linked to on other servers if you wish, - you can even download a complete website or the whole server in one operation if you want - great for downloading weather file archives from FSU/HURR or elsewhere - it takes me 10 minutes to get 6 days of 24 files each (144 files) from the FSU/HURR archive, which is far quicker than trying to sift through them and save the ones I want online. It prints direct from a web page, web-archive, any HTML or text page on a server or on your Desktop, with various settings to allow printing any width page, including images and frames, on A4 paper. And it only takes up a miniscule 2.2 MB HD space and uses only 3 MB RAM (68K version), and is the fastest full featured browser I have ever used. You can download the PowerPC version direct from: http://members.aol.com/joppich/iCab_Pre1.8_English_PPC.sit or the 68K version direct from: http://members.aol.com/icab68k/iCab_Pre1.8_English_68k.sit You will need StuffIt Expander or another utility that unpacks .sit files. If any one else on the list uses a Mac, give it a try - it's free - and you will probably trash your old browser in disgust in a few days if you do! You also wrote: >I'm interested in three things >[1] Did it open and show all pix? and >[2] Is it worth my while continuing with more sites? >[3] Do I have to .zip files to upload (for PDF files)? [1] Don't know, I have not been there yet, and if it is .zip-ed PDF files, I'm unlikely to do so - .zip files need to be downloaded and unpacked, and PDF files require something like the Adobe Acrobat Reader, which I only load if I absolutely have to for some reason, then trash it afterwards - not that there is anything wrong with it, but it uses heaps of HD space and RAM, and PDF is a very inefficient and inflexible way of displaying information (I only have a small Mac and don't have a CD ROM). [2] Don't know, if you try the new browser above, you may decide that there are alternative ways of doing things that are more widely accessable and far more flexible and efficient. [3] You don't need to .zip compress PDF files, they can be uploaded as is - I come across them frequently, and try to avoid them if there is any alternative (see [1] above). Please do not take this the wrong way, I simply have an alternative viewpoint, and if you are happy in what you are doing, please continue :-) Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. carls at ace-net.com.au Cyclone Tracking Maps Website: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/index.htm Current Cyclone Information Page: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 X-Apparently-From:From: "Nick Sykes" [njsykes at yahoo.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Another Melbourne Heat Wave?? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:42:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all It looks like another week of uncomfortable sleeping for Melbournites. All models are predicting the heat wave to start on Tuesday, possibility of Monday depending on the strength of the sea breeze. The BOM on the radio this morning sounded very confident about this heat wave saying "Temps above the mid-30's mid next week". The trough that is forecasted to bring the change is showing signs of slowing on some models and the likely timing of the change is now Thursday some time (well that's my tip). The MRF 10 day temp forecast has a freaky area of 6-8 above normal temperatures forecasted for Northern Vic, Southern NSW Victoria. http://grads.iges.org/pix/temp7.html NGP has the change coming through earlier on Wednesday. I'm tipping the first 40 degree day for Melbourne with this heatwave. The weather patterns have certainly changed now in Melbourne. After an eternity to get our first 30+ day it now looks likely out first 40+ could occur only 2 weeks later. Ahh Melbourne, got to love the changeability. Nick from an enjoyably cool Melbourne. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 X-Apparently-From: From: "Nick Sykes" [njsykes at yahoo.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another Melbourne Heat Wave?? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 22:33:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The fire weather briefing is going for a weak change to enter western vic on late Tuesday, hopefully really weak. http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDF30V05.txt Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Another Melbourne Heat Wave?? > Hey all > > It looks like another week of uncomfortable sleeping for Melbournites. All > models are predicting the heat wave to start on Tuesday, possibility of > Monday depending on the strength of the sea breeze. > > The BOM on the radio this morning sounded very confident about this heat > wave saying "Temps above the mid-30's mid next week". The trough that is > forecasted to bring the change is showing signs of slowing on some models > and the likely timing of the change is now Thursday some time (well that's > my tip). > > The MRF 10 day temp forecast has a freaky area of 6-8 above normal > temperatures forecasted for Northern Vic, Southern NSW Victoria. > > http://grads.iges.org/pix/temp7.html > > NGP has the change coming through earlier on Wednesday. > > I'm tipping the first 40 degree day for Melbourne with this heatwave. > > The weather patterns have certainly changed now in Melbourne. After an > eternity to get our first 30+ day it now looks likely out first 40+ could > occur only 2 weeks later. Ahh Melbourne, got to love the changeability. > > Nick from an enjoyably cool Melbourne. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Highest Public Pools in Australia? Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 10:45:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 2:05 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Highest Public Pools in Australia? Yarrangobilly Caves sports a the best 'antique' pool (25m x 15m approx) I know AND of at a constant temperature of 27 degrees. Altitude is about 1200m - great place to have a dip in winter/spring after a cold change when there's snow all around but the sun is out. The water is crystal clear. Peter +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 10:47:54 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: First chase a failure Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Matthew, 007 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 12:26:18 +0930 From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: My new page Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all - finally after 4 weeks work etc I have got my new web page up running. More pictures wil be added next week (after I get the cd's back from the shop) so thee wil be more to have a look at. Please have a look - its simple at this stage but will be improved all the time. http://www2.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss/Index.html Please let me know what you think - it does take a little while to load but I hope its woth the wait. Paul at Darwin. PS 20mm rain yesterday - today 6/8 with fresh SE and not much else. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 X-Sender: carls at ford.ace-net.com.au Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 14:11:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Re: My new page Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul. You wrote: >http://www2.tpgi.com.au/users/paulmoss/Index.html > >Please let me know what you think - it does take a little while to load >but I hope its woth the wait. What great photos!!! The time it takes to load your various index pages is a bit of a bother - even with 3 connections running flat out it seems to take forever! Perhaps you should consider putting lower resolution/depth 'thumbnail' versions of your images on your various index pages to speed up loading, and your high quality images with comments each on a seperate page, so the viewer can see the 'proofs', in photographic terms, and then have the choice to view each of the high quality images if desired. I am sure that many would still spend the time required to view all your images, and faster loading of the various index pages would ensure return visits, perhaps to see some of the quality images they didn't look at previous visit, or just to see what else you have posted in the meantime - I find a reluctance to return to websites that take an eternity to load, even when the quality is high, although I will often persevere ... perhaps I am a little impatient. Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. carls at ace-net.com.au Cyclone Tracking Maps Website: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/index.htm Current Cyclone Information Page: http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 13:15:55 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: First old century of the summer in Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Perth had its first old century (37.8C 100F) of the summer today, the highest I've seen it get to so far is 38.2 in the city, currently its 37.9C at 1:10pm WST we've got a NW seabreaze in, that will swing to the SW soon and cool things down some more after having the hot NE winds in the morning. Should be cooler tomorrow with the trough moving inland with the chance of storms just to the east of Perth. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: 7631 kms later Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:31:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You can ask many others about chasing and how many busts they have had. Nobody like busts but really it goes to show just how hard it is to chase in Australia and how unpredictable weather is. You were not the only one to have a bust that day. All the guys had a bust as well and were in position to chase any of those cells. The instability was there but it became too dry.
In future, I can offer a few suggestions.
Try to leave a little earlier as you may find you are not able to make certain places in time for the development of the cumulus and the pattern it may exhibit for development.
Make sure that the distance you travel is worth the risk - I think the day you chose, the LI was expected to be 0 to -3 and therefore such a distance would be very risky. Lithgow or similar distance would be a better risk on such a day.
Try chasing with someone say perhaps by letting others on the list know where you are heading and you contact details. They may give you some indication of chase targets and what to look out for or may chase with you making the chase not as boring.
Please understand that storm chasing is an art that if you persist and remain determined and look back at the busts, you will eventually gather enough know how about what the risks are in going out on certain days. The days of my busts chases have reduced but are certainly not over. There will always be the bust chases - when you travel home and you can hear a pin drop and see jaws drop down to the floor. Trust me - we have all been there and done that.
Good luck in future.
I am going on a chase tomorrow leaving relatively late at say 8 am Sunday 5th December.
We will see what happens but if you wish to chase, ring me tonight as you must know the details and be here on time to leave.
Jimmy Deguara
At 09:49 2/12/99 +1100, you wrote:
Hi, Matthew from Sydney here
Well, I've just arrived back from my first "chase" ever, and it was a complete and utter waste of time. After yesterday's action on the southern ranges, I was suspecting that the ranges may do something again today, especially as humidity levels were higher. However, CAPE and LI forecasts were marginal at best, with areas of -1 over the south coast. So, having nothing much better to do today, I headed SW planning on reaching Goulburn for lunch and then maybe pushing on to Canberra or going across to the coast, depending on what was happening. I left St Ives at 9:50am with some scattered Cu coming in from the NE and 75% relative humidity with 22C. It was very hazy to the SW.
I reached the Southern Highlands at 11:20am, and observed some isolated towering cu, which looked promising for later in the day. It was very warm by this stage, and I pushed on towards Goulburn. After taking an unexpected detour down some strange gravel road in the middle of nowhere, I reached Goulburn about 12:30pm. By this stage, the sky was 4/8 covered with Cu, some towering, and one particularly interesting cell to the E over the ranges. This decayed within 20 minutes and none of the Cu seemed to be developing, so I started to get a bit worried. After a check of the radar in Goulburn library, my worries were confirmed with absolutely nothing on the radar, except for some showers moving in from the SE towards the coast south of Nowra.
By 1:30pm, the sky was very depressing, with no towers developing further, so I had to make up my mind whether to head W or SE towards the coast. Given the radar and the lack of development inland, I decided to head for the coast, taking the Braidwood road to Batemans Bay. After managing to get lost in Goulburn trying to find the road out of town, I finally hit the road at 2pm. My brother informed me that the showers out to sea had briefly gone pink on radar, so I thought, well there's nothing else happening so why not? This particular part of the journey took a tad longer than expected, and I didn't arrive at Batemans Bay until 4pm. No clouds, very hot, very humid, very annoyed. There was, however, some nice congestus over the ranges to the SW, and one cell developed a pretty pathetic anvil at one point, but had dissipated by the time I got the camera out.
As nothing else looked like happening, I decided to head for home, via Nowra and the Princes Highway. This wasn't too bad, and I arrived back at St Ives at 8:45pm after dinner at McDonalds at South Hurstville in Sydney's south.
All in all, a useless day, covering 665km, 11 hours and $40 worth of petrol. I have numerous photos of cumulus, but nothing else to show for it. I just hope my future chases are better than the first!
Matthew
011 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 15:38:58 +1100 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Big Chase Update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane here.. I'm a little confuzzled as to exactly where everyone is at the moment.. but i know that Matt Smith and James Harris are chasing a storm SW of Scone in central NSW.. the storm went pink on radar half an hour ago or so, and they said it looks quite beefy with a nice rain free base and nice precip curtain.. there are also other cells developing around them.. I think Andrew Mcdonald, Jane Oneil and Clive are fairly close to James and Matt.. the last time i heard from them Andrew said they could hear frequent static on the radio, but were having trouble seeing anything through the haze.. Anthony Cornelius, James Chambers and Ross Portas are on their way back to Brisbane.. and earlier on this afternoon they were around the Warwick area on the SE Darling Downs in SE QLD.. there were some showers on radar around them at the time (up to yellow in intensity) but they were not spectacular visually - with tops around 30 000 feet.. there were some stronger updrafts east of the showers on the border ranges though.. nothing on the radar in this region yet (3:30pm).. Feels warmer in Brisbane today.. some crappy Cumulus Humilis around this morning, but have since dissipated to leave barely a cloud in the sky - apart from some high cloud approaching to the distant west.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:58:18 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: Re: data and video stills FOR THOSE INTERESTED Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have no use at this stage for the software this person is talking about but some of you may be interested. Read below. Jimmy Deguara >Delivered-To: jdeguara at j.pop.ihug.com.au >From: Mark Little >Organization: Brigadoon - A part of the APANA Network >To: Michael Fewings Hi, back from the big chase after 7631kms, the first week was great but the second week was pretty dissapointing, will write a bit more about the chase later, trying to catch up on 500 to 600 e-mails at thr moment. Dane.>Subject: Re: data and video stills >Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1999 17:13:04 +1030 >X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] >Cc: Jimmy Deguara >X-KMail-Mark: > >Hello Michael, >Thanks for your response. > >On Sat, 04 Dec 1999, Michael Fewings wrote: > > Hi Mark and Jimmy, > > > > Something like that could be written in perl and put on the internet > but it would > > be a long term project. I was thinking of including something like that > in the > > storm database system but felt that it got a little too complicated and > space > > hungry to have images included with reports > >Using CGI has the advantage of being platform independent, but it suffers from >a number of problems from my perspective. The first is that the user must be >connected to the internet to view/analyse his/her own observations. It also >slows down the analysis and plotting of data. > >This, however, is not my main reservation. Borland C++ Builder provides a lot >of inbuilt features which do not require any (user) code. It includes such >things as formatted input fields that enter data directly into the >database and >direct graphing from the database (multiple graph types with inbuilt zooming), >etc. > >My software can already automatically collect images and place them in the >database, although I limit them to 160x120 for space reasons. My long term >goal >is to get a home weather station and automatically input that data as well. > >I intend to provide an option to make web pages from the plots, etc and have >them uploaded to the server - I already do this with my web camera software. > > > Hope that helps you a bit. > >Yes, it does. Thanks for your assistance. > >I'm going to develop a client-server system where a user can store and analyse >their own data locally. The user will also be able to connect to a server >which >can accept data from all (authorised) users and provide data to all users who >can plot/analyse it on their own machines. > >I'm including the following readings: >Obs Date/Time, Temp, RH, pressure, pressure trend, precipitation, present >weather, past weather, total cloud cover, low/middle/high cloud type and >cover, >wind speed/direction, observation comment and image. > >I've only prototyped plotting the easy stuff so far: reading Vs Obs Date/time, >wind rose. I thinking about doing some form of trend analysis, but I'm not >sure >yet. > >Ultimately, I want to be able to plot the readings from all sites onto a >geographic map, although I need to get hold of a database something like the >CIA geographic coordinate database first (Currently I only have it for the >Amiga, not the PC). I also need to get together a set of reference images for >the various cloud types so I can use them in the help system. > >I'm going to start fully defining the scope and requirements. I expect it will >take me a few weeks to do this (Christmas and all), so any suggestions >relating >to data or data analysis would be appreciated. > > > Michael Fewings > >-- >Mark Little >"His fingers harping the net mesh;" > - The Net-Menders by Brian Vrepont +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 20:16:42 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Tornado?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yepp Andrew it is me again. Have just come back from the big chase and you may or may not have heard of the great activity on the third day of our chase ie 22 November 1999 in SE Qld about 100km S - SW of Giles. The conditions were favourable for possible tornadic development but especially supercells. Now, to cut along story short, it seems we may have got a tornado - yepp you heard that one before. there was dust whirls coming from the extremely strong outflow boundary but the whirls move away slowly but go hundereds of metres into the air. There was brief visible funnel and also a prong reported earlier. the dust whirl remains for a few minutes but does move away from the outflow boundary. Of course, the air below was relatively dry so that can explain the lack of a funnel. Another thing has me puzzled that if it is a tornado, then it may be anti-cyclonic from what I gather from the circulation. Anyway I will let you decide at the next combined ASWA-Weatherwatch meeting 15th December. Jimmy Deguara +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 19:49:34 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Back from the "End of Year Chase" Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've finally arrived home, but I have to leave again soon to visit my parents at their farm (another 1.5hrs in the car driving - wooohoo!!!) I'm rather tired right now, so excuse any spelling mistakes/typo's :) Well - we saw some great stuff, but also had a share of busts. All in all, we saw much more than what we would have seen here in ridgy Brisbane. None the less, the weather didn't quite do what we wanted it to do, it seems summer in SE QLD/NE NSW still has not yet arrived, thus forcing us into outback SW QLD to chase a few cells there. I won't focus so much on the weather aspect of this email though, but rather I'd like to focus on how well everyone interacted with each other. Never in my life, have I seen a group, interact so well with each other. The trust, and comradship was unbelievable, many people barely knew each other, yet within minutes, it was as if we had all been friends for years. I've never seen this before, and was quite overwhelmed by it. If this is representative of ASWA as an entire group, then I believe that ASWA will be extremely successful in its coming years. With people like these, ASWA will go all the way. I'm certainly looking forward to meeting everyone again soon in the near future. I hope everyone else enjoyed this aspect as much as I did, as it was the social aspect of the chase that was by far the most enjoyable. I'll eventually have a report + photos of the chase in the coming weeks on BSCH, and I know that Jane will be putting a lot of stuff on MSC - including some hilarious comments and occurrances during the chase (I think!) Before I rush off to the farm - I'd like to thank all those who helped us along the chase. In particular, I'd like to thank Ben Quinn. I phoned him nearly everyday (sometimes 2-4 times a day), to receive radar/sat pic/model updates. He even put up with my abruptness over the phone when I was in a rush to get the info ASAP! But I don't believe we'd have been able to accomplish all we did without him giving us a continuous feed of updates. -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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