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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Wednesday, 8 December 1999

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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Chase Update 4:30pm
002 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Chase update - the Brindabella Road
003 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Big Chase Update-The only storm in NSW ?
004 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]     Historic storms
005 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            AMOS meeting
006 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au             Monsoon expected Friday
007 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Monsoon expected Friday
008 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]             STA for Adelaide
009 "Matt Smith" [ozchase at hotmail.com]             STA's for VIC... Storms for melbournites today likely
010 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]             Adelaide
011 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au                       Chase update - the Brindabella Road; and STA for NSW
012 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Is Summer FInally Going To Arrive in Brisbane?
013 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au                       And Canberra joins the fun....
014 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Cold areas in Oz (relatively speaking)
015 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Models looking great for Thursday in NSW
016 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]             Adelaide pt 2
017 Rebecca Morrison [MorrisonR at ausport.gov.au]    STA for ACT
018 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Monsoon expected Friday
019 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Models looking great for Thursday in NSW
020 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Talk about Bad Timing!
021 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au                       Nice storm in Canberra
022 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Talk about Bad Timing!
023 Pjcorlett at aol.com                              Re: Radar back up
024 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Talk about Bad Timing!
025 "Willis, Andrew" [adwillis at bechtel.com]        Newcastle Weather
026 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]            Newcastle Weather - waterspouts
027 "Matt Smith" [ozchase at hotmail.com]             STA update
028 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            Adelaide broad loop request
029 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           AMOS meeting
030 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Adelaide broad loop request
031 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   7/12 NSW Storms
032 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]             avn forecast
033 Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.ne  STA update
034 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   STA update
035 Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au]             SA Tornado!
036 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]   SA Tornado!
037 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]             SA Tornado!

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001
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase Update 4:30pm
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:24:50 +1100
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Got home around 11pm, safe and well. Around midday today I though that I was
leaving all the action to Matt and the crew. There had been some promising
congestus near Gunnedah, but as I heading south it suddenly cleared. About
50km north of Coolah I noticed some cirrus way to the SW, it just did not
look right, so I switched the radio to AM and it crackled immediately.
Through the haze I then noticed an overshoot, this was at least 200km from
the storm !! I had already vectored it as Orange and the fact that Canobolas
is 1400m and my guess was that this isolated storm had went up over it. I
went to Gulgong and could now see the storm, plus others forming to the SW.
The decision was do I go to Mudgee, or via Wellington to Orange. I rang Jane
O'Neill and she said " go to Orange " and explained that the storm had been
RED for an hour.

By the time I reached Orange at 4pm the big one had anviled out, but there
was a line still firing about halfway between Orange and Forbes, I drove
west and under it, there were some CG's and  evidence that very heavy
precip' had fallen.

I then doubled back and headed for home thinking again that I had seen off
the last of the action, which now seemed better to the north and northeast
 I hope Matt, Greg and Gabby got these, sorry guys did not have your mobile
numbers  ). However three more  " supper cells "  formed near Bathurst, I
briefly chased one near Tarana, it put out the odd CG and died on dusk.

What is a " supper cell ". This is pulse storm activity that is all finished
by supper time.

Michael

>
> Also Michael Thompson who left the group earlier to head home is according
> to Matt right underneath the main action already so hopefully should have
> some great reports from him.
>



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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase update - the Brindabella Road
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:25:35 +1100
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Thanks for the update Patrick. The road led me fair between two cells,
neither of which was reachable. As far as a chase route I would say " not
really " the viewing opportunities are limited to say the least. The anvils
persisted and drifted W/NW and gave light rain around Tumut. The one south
of the Snowy Hwy was the stronger. But in reality if it takes 1600m altitude
to break the cap the conditions are borderline.
>
>
> Spoke to Michael T at 3.00pm - he is currently in Canberra.  A couple of
Cb are
> visible on the ranges to the west. Michael is going to try his luck along
the
> Brindabella road to Tumut. The drive should be "interesting" whatever
happens
> with the storms.....(it can be a pretty rough old road through the mtns).
>
> Upper air seems less favourable today - although what does develop could
be
> pretty interesting.
>
> Patrick
>
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003
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big Chase Update-The only storm in NSW ?
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:59:40 +1100
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There is quite a tale in this one. I am certain that we nailed possibly the
only storm in NSW today ( well 2 actually, but in the same area ). I have a
theory as to why the storm formed when everywhere else never made it. We
were at Manilla near Tamworth around 1pm watching congestus jumping up and
down like yo-yo's all morning and into the afternoon. The cap was obviously
too strong as nothing was pushing into cells, despite being congestus
central. We noticed a cell had shot up over the New England escarpment, our
guess was around Armidale. After a discussion it was decided to pusue this
cell, even though it was at least 2 hours away. It was then I realised what
pushed that sole cell. Here's the theory --

A cool SE was established along the NSW coast, but only shallow, perhaps
50km inland. The New England eastern escarpment like the rest of the area
westward was popping congestus and generally heating up. The heating helped
draw the SE wind up the river valleys and onto the escarpment. As the SE hit
the congestus there was just enough lift to push a weak cell. This storm
tracked NW as the SE penetrated further inland. It was a narrow storm band
and the SE stabilised and killed convection in its wake.

We hooked onto the storm near Glen Innes and followed it north-westward for
10-20km. It was weak, but hey ! it was not a bust. The storm died out near
Wellingrove around dusk.

Michael


> Looks like I've changed rolls now, from being the informer, to being the
> receiver.  I much prefered being the informer!
>
> Greg Browning has contacted me periodically today keeping me informed of
> their progress.  This morning looked nice, with a few small towers
> shooting up.  A largish cell formed near them, and they said the anvil
> looked quite nice.  Another Cb shot up to their north, but it quickly
> died.  Soon, a SE-ESE wind came in, and everything fell collapsed.  They
> were originally thinking of calling the day off, when another cell
> popped up to their north with another overshooting top.  It was moving
> N, with a slight westward propogation.  It seemed to strengthen a little
> on radar into the pink, but unfortunately, it looks like it's
> collapsed.  Probably too reliant on the surface max heating, which
> wouldn't be too surprising given the somewhat inadequete low level
> moisture.  The other thing is that shear is still remarkably weak
> (almost non-existant).  I think the chasers will have to put up with
> another couple of days of pulse activity along the trough until the next
> major system rolls in - which looks like Thursday.  EC has it very nice,
> but it won't be nearly as good as it looks now when the time comes
> (well, very unlikely anyway unfortunately).  But the models are tipping
> a 120kn jet behind the next front + upper level cold pool, so lets hope
> the last 4 chasers stick around for this next system before heading back
> home.
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
> Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:05:00 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Historic storms
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All ASWA members and others:

Are any of you aware of particular severe thunderstorm events that occurred
in Australia between 1970 and 1999 that would be on a scale of the 4/14/99
Sydney hailstorm.  I am looking for storms that would be notable on a
worldwide scale, as the Sydney storm is.  Please note that the events of my
interest are strictly severe thunderstorm related, i.e., tornadoes, hail,
micro or macrobursts or other damaging wind events, excepting floods. 
Tropical storm related events are not to be included here.  If you know of
not only the date and location, but the $ magnitude of event associated
damage, that would be most helpful.  Rather than take up Aussie Wx
bandwidth, please send your responses to me off-line, if you will.

Thanks very much in advance for sharing your thoughts with me.

Les

************************
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Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist
Phone: 816-373-3533
E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com


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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>The main theme of the meeting is to discuss recent severe storm events:
>particularly those of the End-Of-Year major storm chase undertaken recently
>by some ASWA members. There will be open discussion as well as commentary
>and video footage. We do suspect one of the supercells produced a tornado
>and there is footage of the dust whirls and funnel observed by the chasers
>and the excitement that go with it!!! You will also enjoy the spectacular
>squall line footage and its story.

For those of us who can't make it, what chance is there of some of this
video footage to make its way onto somebody's site - or at least some frame
grabs from them??

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon expected Friday
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 08:19:08 +0930
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Howdy all. The BOM here updated there forecast this morning to now read:

Thursday :  Min: 25 Max: 33 Overnight showers and storms.
Friday :  Min: 26 Max: 33 Overnight/morning monsoon showers.
Saturday :  Min: 26 Max: 33 Overnight/morning monsoon showers.

 So now I will get to see what this monsoon is all about............

Paul at Darwin.
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007
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon expected Friday
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 10:28:32 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon expected Friday

> Howdy all. The BOM here updated there forecast this morning to now read:
>
> Thursday :  Min: 25 Max: 33 Overnight showers and storms.
> Friday :  Min: 26 Max: 33 Overnight/morning monsoon showers.
> Saturday :  Min: 26 Max: 33 Overnight/morning monsoon showers.
>
>  So now I will get to see what this monsoon is all about............
>
> Paul at Darwin.

Boring, boring, boring!!!!! - hope you don't get the monsoon, because when
it landed in Darwin last Christmas at the same time I did - there were only
showers, no storms at all - pray for anything else 

Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria



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Hey all

This was issued for Adelaide about half hour ago.  So far only few claps 
offf thunder in the Northern Areas (Barossa Valley region), but rain has 
fallen in most districts this morning..

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 12:10 pm on Wednesday, 8 December 1999
For people in the Greater Adelaide and Mount Lofty Ranges, West Coast, 
Northwest
Pastoral, Northeast Pastoral west of Arkaroola, Flinders, Mid North, Eastern
Eyre Peninsula, Lower Eyre Peninsula and the Yorke Peninsula districts.

Severe winds, large hail and very heavy rain are possible with thunderstorms in
these districts during this afternoon.

If thunderstorms do develop in your area, localised damage may occur and 
you are
advised to take sensible precautions.  For example, secure loose outside
objects, move vehicles under cover, watch for flooded roads and watercourses,
drive with extra caution and seek shelter while the storm passes over.
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Subject: aus-wx: STA's for VIC... Storms for melbournites today likely
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:48:42 EST
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST


Severe Squall Warning

for the Geelong, Bellarine Peninsula, Melbourne Metropolitan area, 
Mornington
Peninsula and Port Phillip Bay and Western Port.

Issued at 1354 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999

A squally west to southwesterly change with wind gusts to 50knots is 
expected to
move through the Geelong area by 4pm then move over Port Phillip Bay and 
Western
Port, the Mornington Peninsula  and the Melbourne and Metropolitan area over 
the
following three hours.
-----------------------------------------------------------
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE


NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

Severe Thunderstorm Advice

Issued at 1445 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999 for the Northern 
Country
district.

Severe thunderstorms have been observed on radar near Tocumwal and are 
moving
southeast at 60km/h into Victoria. Further thunderstorms, some of which are
likely to be severe are likely this afternoon and evening. People are 
advised
that thunderstorms may produce

Damaging winds
Heavy rain with local flash flooding
Large hail.

This advice is valid until 9pm Wednesday 8th December and should not be used
after this time.




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hey all

I have heard rumbles of thunder over the last hour the last 5 mins or so 
bringing it really close to where I live.  I can't seem to find the god 
damn camera


JUST flashed lightning so I am outta here LOL

updates later

Kathryn Jolly

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase update - the Brindabella Road; and STA for NSW
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Michael, everyone

Sorry the road led you into the void between the cells - a very
frustrating place to be in that sort of country. Glad you
encountered a bit more action yesterday.

Canberra itself ended up in the void between 2 areas of red
yesterday evening - an eastward moving squall line that Andrew M
identified and another group south of Wagga that moved SE. Needless
to say I had issued a few warnings to various people about the
imminent fun that didn't eventuate - and then we (I) was taunted
by flickering through most of the night that looked as though it
would shortly arrive ... and then didn't.

Oh well - we'll try again today.

Currently a very dark area of stormcloud to the SW (with a decent
looking guster developing underneath). This will slip to the SE
but there is more to come.... (and tomorrow night looks like it
will also be bery active)

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1445 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Southern Tablelands,
South West Slopes,
Riverina.

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area until 8:45pm.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.

Patrick

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks for the update Patrick. The road led me fair between two cells,
neither of which was reachable. As far as a chase route I would say " not
really " the viewing opportunities are limited to say the least. The anvils
persisted and drifted W/NW and gave light rain around Tumut. The one south
of the Snowy Hwy was the stronger. But in reality if it takes 1600m altitude
to break the cap the conditions are borderline.


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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Summer FInally Going To Arrive in Brisbane?
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 13:49:56 +1100
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With luck I will be able to do a local chase, the trough appears that it
will be more or less overhead at 9pm Thursday, perfect timing for a change -
we have had a terrible couple of years where troughs have snuck through at 3
& 4am.

Michael


> This next system looks like it could be a beauty for much of the eastern
> states, lets hope it delievers its promise.  The strong jet right on the
> front/trough is certainly very encouraging - Michael Thompson believes
> it'll be a beauty too - because he'll be back home by then!  *lol*
>



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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
Issued at 1506 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE issued at 1459 hours on Wednesday 8th December
1999 by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY for people in the Australian Capital
Territory.

Severe thunderstorms are expected in the ACT between 3pm and 9pm. When there
occur, they may bring large hailstones, destructive winds and very heavy
rainfall.


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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1999 09:04:11 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Cold areas in Oz (relatively speaking)
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Interesting Leslie,

Where exactly are you again? How warm did it actually get for November?
How much above average was it etc?

Thanks :-)


My area is one of the few places in Australia outside our Alps that gets
snow. Usually we only get a few centimetres here although sometimes
quite good falls. However, just to our west, (20-40 k's away) we can
get  30cm - 60 cm in one fall. Our only saving grace in this area of Oz
is altitude (3000 to 4500 feet approx.) and the positioning of our
ranges in the moist winter air flows. The temps are only just cold
enough for snow here at say, 0 to -2 in winter, sometimes a little
colder in the highest areas during cold outbreaks. Still for us Aussies,
thats pretty good. :-)


Keep us up to date with your snow falls.

Lindsay Pearce


Leslie R. Lemon wrote:
> 
> Jane and All:
> 
> It was great to hear of all your success and rather clearly how all enjoyed
> each other's company!  It sounded as though all had fun and without
> accident, at least from this very distant vantage point.  Here, after
> recording the warmest November on record, we finally had two days of rain
> and then snow yesterday.  We only had about 2 to 6 cm of snow here but up
> to a about 30 cm not far (~100 km to 150 km) north.
> 
> BTW, I did not chase the cold rain nor the snow......LOL
> 
> Les
> 
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> Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Models looking great for Thursday in NSW
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:37:51 +1100
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It is shaping up as an exciting day tomorrow with both AVN and NGP having
the NSW southern tablelands and south coast under a jet stream exit region
 a right one at that ).

As Paul Graham has said in an earlier E Mail, Supercells are possible.

Michael Thompson
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Hey all

Just had some nice CG's and CC's come down just Nth of our place the 
thunder was like gunshots so I guess it was pretty close.  A new STA has 
been given for Adelaide.  Note the last paragraph.  I live Nth of the city 
hehehe

Kathy

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 3:05 pm on Wednesday, 8 December 1999
For people in the Mid North, Flinders, Riverland, Northwest and Northeast
Pastoral, Eastern Eyre Peninsula and Yorke Peninsula districts.

Severe winds, large hail and very heavy rain are possible with thunderstorms in
these districts during this afternoon and evening. Localised damage may occur
and you are advised to take sensible precautions.  For example, secure loose
outside objects, move vehicles under cover, watch for flooded roads and
watercourses and seek shelter while the storm passes.

Thunderstorms with possible heavy rain are also expected in the Greater 
Adelaide
and Mount Lofty Ranges district, particularly north of the City. This may cause
some localised flash flooding.
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From: Rebecca Morrison [MorrisonR at ausport.gov.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: STA for ACT
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 15:25:49 +1100 
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE  TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE
Issued at 1506 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE issued at 1459 hours on Wednesday 8th December
1999 by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY for people in the Australian Capital
Territory.


Severe thunderstorms are expected in the ACT between 3pm and 9pm. When there
occur, they may bring large hailstones, destructive winds and very heavy
rainfall. 

\

Rebecca Morrison
Sports Consultant
Sports Management Division
Rebecca.Morrison at ausport.gov.au 

Tel:(02) 6214 1885
Fax: (02) 6214 1477
 
 
 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au [mailto:Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 4:04 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Chase update - the Brindabella Road; and STA for
NSW




Michael, everyone

Sorry the road led you into the void between the cells - a very
frustrating place to be in that sort of country. Glad you
encountered a bit more action yesterday.

Canberra itself ended up in the void between 2 areas of red
yesterday evening - an eastward moving squall line that Andrew M
identified and another group south of Wagga that moved SE. Needless
to say I had issued a few warnings to various people about the
imminent fun that didn't eventuate - and then we (I) was taunted
by flickering through most of the night that looked as though it
would shortly arrive ... and then didn't.

Oh well - we'll try again today.

Currently a very dark area of stormcloud to the SW (with a decent
looking guster developing underneath). This will slip to the SE
but there is more to come.... (and tomorrow night looks like it
will also be bery active)

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1445 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Southern Tablelands,
South West Slopes,
Riverina.

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area until 8:45pm.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.

Patrick

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks for the update Patrick. The road led me fair between two cells,
neither of which was reachable. As far as a chase route I would say " not
really " the viewing opportunities are limited to say the least. The anvils
persisted and drifted W/NW and gave light rain around Tumut. The one south
of the Snowy Hwy was the stronger. But in reality if it takes 1600m altitude
to break the cap the conditions are borderline.


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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon expected Friday
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Jane,

I'm currently stuck for a cover photo for the December AMOS Bulletin
(normally I run something relevant to one of the articles therein, 
but as the major articles in this one are a cumulative index of the
publication, something about a professional accreditation scheme
and a piece about a cold spell in northern Queensland in February
1949, this isn't applicable this time). Do you have anything good
from the chase that you would be interested in submitting? (or if
not, do you know anyone who does?). GIF format would be best. I'd need
it by Friday, I think.

(I plan to put out a more general call on the list for someone to
write an article on the chase for our next issue, in February).

Looks like Melbourne could be fun this afternoon - although there
isn't anything too dramatic on the radar (yet). I'm running a race
at 7 so hopefully the change will be through by then :-)

Blair
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 14:49:40 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Michael, Everyone..

The only thing i'd be worried about if i was in NSW is the amount of mid
level moisture.. AVN has enough moisture for rain in southern and
possibly central NSW with this system.. but other than that i thought it
was looking quite good too..

Looks like we might finally break this horrid storm drought we're in as
well! (in SE QLD) I wouldn't be surprised at overnight as well as
afternoon storms in SE QLD on Friday.. Saturday looks possible as well,
and depending on what model you look at an even smaller possibility for
Sunday.. but i wouldn't hold my breath for Sunday..

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> It is shaping up as an exciting day tomorrow with both AVN and NGP having
> the NSW southern tablelands and south coast under a jet stream exit region
>  a right one at that ).
> 
> As Paul Graham has said in an earlier E Mail, Supercells are possible.
> 
> Michael Thompson
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:23:16 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hmmm - half of Australia's states/territories have severe thunderstorm
warnings/advices out for them, and all the radar sites are down!!!  I
hope this is a problem from the radar to the web, and not the actual
radar/radar communication themselves.

No.

               City

                                           Broad Scale 
                                           1024 x 1024 km
                                           Latest
                                                               Broad
Scale 
                                                               1024 x
1024 km
                                                               7 x 10
min Loop
                                                                                 
Local Scale 
                                                                                 
256 x 256 km 
                                                                                 
Latest 
                                                                                                     
Local Scale 
                                                                                                     
256 x 256 km 
                                                                                                     
7 x 10 min Loop 
                                                       Age of image in
hours : minutes when this page was last refreshed
      46
               Adelaide
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      50
               Brisbane
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      3
               Canberra(uses Sydney)
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
      63
               Darwin
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      37
               Hobart
                                           Not available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      2
               Melbourne
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      12 
               Perth
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
      3
               Sydney
                                           Not available 
                                                               Not
available 
                                                                                 
Not available 
                                                                                                     
Not available 
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Had a nice storm in Canberra from about 3.30pm - 4.00pm - lots of CG's, gusty
winds, and very heavy rain.

Pity the BoM radar appears to have died an  hour before the storm arrived,

Patrick


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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Talk about Bad Timing!
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> 
> Hmmm - half of Australia's states/territories have severe thunderstorm
> warnings/advices out for them, and all the radar sites are down!!!  I
> hope this is a problem from the radar to the web, and not the actual
> radar/radar communication themselves.

It may well be a problem with the Bureau's internet connection - I've
been having a lot of trouble getting out at times today, so it's
presumably hard to get in as well. The radar's fine internally
(and firing up very nicely).

Blair Trewin
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From: Pjcorlett at aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 01:17:07 EST
Subject: aus-wx: Re: Radar back up
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Hi Folks, 
             The radar seems to be going again. There is a particularly 
intense cell near Clare in SA, heading E towards Renmark. I hope the grape 
crop in the Clare Valley is OK!

Meanwhile Melbourne has got bugger all (so far). Curse that upper level 
cloud!!

Cheers,

Pete.

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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:28:54 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Anthony Cornelius wrote on Wed, 08 Dec 1999 15:23:16 +1000:
> 
> Hmmm - half of Australia's states/territories have severe
> thunderstorm warnings/advices out for them, and all the
> radar sites are down!!!

The problems varied across the radar sites archived with
Sydney being about average. Some are still out as I write.
As for the syd256 archive and most of the others;

0340Z to 0500Z - No refresh of image at BoM.
0510Z to 0530Z - Redirection to BoM help page.
0540Z to 0nowZ - OK

Charleville, Longreach, Coffs Harbour and Moree are still
being redirected to BoM help.

Images from mel256 and mel1024 are fat and full of activity.
It's going to be a busy night ahead, I feel...

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Willis, Andrew" [adwillis at bechtel.com]
To: "'Aussie Weather'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Newcastle Weather
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:32:33 -0800 
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Hi all, first time mailer here.  Excuse any mistakes.

I was excited to find an Australian Weather group.  I've been following the
WX-CHASE group from the states but always felt a bit more like a spectator
to a game of rugby than actually a part of the group.  Looking forward to
hearing more about Australian Severe Weather.  (I have a Northern Hemisphere
bias, I still look for excitement in the SE corner of thunderstorms).

I am a three month resident of Newcastle.   Before living in Newcastle I was
in Armidale NSW and was in the centre of the 1996 Sept 29 Hailstorm up
there.  My chasing has been purely amateurish so far.  Anything within 30
minutes is fair game.  So naturally, I've seen a lot of CC and CG lightning
but never close up unless the storm went straight over me.

Thanks for the ramble, onto the important stuff.

About three weeks, I was driving to work, time was about 7.15am when I
noticed a nice thunderstorm that skirting the beaches of Newcastle.  The sun
was rising behind the cloud so it had a nice silver lining/black centre
contrast about it.  When I first viewed the base of the cloud though, I
noticed a column extending about 2/3 of the way to the ground.  There was no
discernable lowering of the cloud base.  I quickly (10mins driving) raced
around to the beaches at Stockton and watched the storm pass me about 1-2 km
out to sea.  The column was dying back into the cloud and was rapidly being
overtaken by a wet downdraft.  The top of the column was at 45 degrees but
the base was pointing straight down.  There was also a noticable RFD 'notch'
to the storm.

I watched the storm go by until the column disappeared.  The surprising
things about this storm was that there was no thunder to be heard and that
it was so early in the morning.  I'm guessing I saw a waterspout but am open
to any other ideas or suggestions.


Andrew Willis
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Newcastle Weather - waterspouts
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Welcome to aussie-weather Andrew,

The surf cam site has two waterspout pics from the 18th November:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/
load the two pics named spout....was it the same event?

cheers, Michael


>About three weeks, I was driving to work, time was about 7.15am when I
>noticed a nice thunderstorm that skirting the beaches of Newcastle.  The sun
>was rising behind the cloud so it had a nice silver lining/black centre
>contrast about it.  When I first viewed the base of the cloud though, I
>noticed a column extending about 2/3 of the way to the ground.  There was no
>discernable lowering of the cloud base.  I quickly (10mins driving) raced
>around to the beaches at Stockton and watched the storm pass me about 1-2 km
>out to sea.  The column was dying back into the cloud and was rapidly being
>overtaken by a wet downdraft.  The top of the column was at 45 degrees but
>the base was pointing straight down.  There was also a noticable RFD 'notch'
>to the storm.
>
>I watched the storm go by until the column disappeared.  The surprising
>things about this storm was that there was no thunder to be heard and that
>it was so early in the morning.  I'm guessing I saw a waterspout but am open
>to any other ideas or suggestions.
>
>
>Andrew Willis
>Desktop Support - Port Waratah Stage 3 Expansion
>
>Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

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The sydney local loop shows some nice area's of red/pink in the illawarra, 
and some weakish cells developing on the ranges near Camden.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1804 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999

This advice replaces the previous advice issued at 4:05pm and affects people
in the following weather districts:

Illawarra,
South Coast,
Southern Tablelands,
South West Slopes,
Riverina.

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area until 9pm.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
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Lots of talk on IRC at present about the destructive cell that moved
through Snowtown (about 100k north of Adelaide) at around 3pm this
afternoon.  We're talking 130kph gusts, golf ball hail, powerlines bent -
the works.  Unfortunately due to a number of reasons no local chasers were
out, it seems - so if anyone has saved this loop the SA members would love
to take a peek at it..

TIA

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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Phil and others on the list,

I have been approached by quite a few already about this. I am thinking on 
how I can do this in one bulk copy process. I don't feel like standing 
there and dubbing 30 tapes or whatever. My plan is to first establish 
whether this is a tornado and then decide what I am going to do.

If this is the case (if it is a tornado), I am planning to make available 
copies to ASWA in each state (paid by ASWA) and then anyone who wants 
personal copies can pay a separate fee as that is not part of ASWA and 
don't worry just a fee for the tape and copying. Some people on the chase 
have said they want copies.

Once I can verify this, I will let you all know of the plans. Sorry to be 
vague but I have made attempts in the past to determine if a tornado has 
been involved and got it wrong. This time I am not speaking out. Each time 
I watch the video footage I concentrate on different things: the fine 
funnel, is the cloud base turning, which direction, what the dust whirls 
were doing, the scud and also the interesting wedge shaped funnel cloud 
also observed several minutes before.

We will see what the Bureau has to say.

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:21 8/12/99 +0930, you wrote:
> >The main theme of the meeting is to discuss recent severe storm events:
> >particularly those of the End-Of-Year major storm chase undertaken recently
> >by some ASWA members. There will be open discussion as well as commentary
> >and video footage. We do suspect one of the supercells produced a tornado
> >and there is footage of the dust whirls and funnel observed by the chasers
> >and the excitement that go with it!!! You will also enjoy the spectacular
> >squall line footage and its story.
>
>For those of us who can't make it, what chance is there of some of this
>video footage to make its way onto somebody's site - or at least some frame
>grabs from them??
>
>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>paisley at cobweb.com.au
>http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2
>
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:21:50 +1100
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Phil Bagust wrote on Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:32:44 +0930:
> 
> Lots of talk on IRC at present about the destructive cell that moved
> through Snowtown (about 100k north of Adelaide) at around 3pm this
> afternoon.  We're talking 130kph gusts, golf ball hail, powerlines bent -
> the works.  Unfortunately due to a number of reasons no local chasers were
> out, it seems - so if anyone has saved this loop the SA members would love
> to take a peek at it..

ASWA radar archive has both ade256 and ade1024 covered for the period
noted as 3pm in SA (+0930) = 0530 UTC as follows;

- all images to 0330 UTC OK.
- BoM internet radar outage from 0340 UTC to 0530 UTC inclusive
- all images from 0540 UTC OK.

Phil. Please confirm your times in UTC as it looks like some of the
storm will be covered OK but some may also be missing:-( With luck,
the critical images needed at the precise timing of the hail storm
will be OK. I can upload these images in the big batch of ASWA archive
requests that I'm currently getting ready to do tomorrow (next window 
in the ftp firewall proxy).

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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: 7/12 NSW Storms
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:42:03 +1100
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Hi All,

The line of storms that I commented on yesterday afternoon did end up
effecting populated areas. My Mother said this morning that she had heard
reports of people in Crookwell (on the western Southern Tablelands) sitting
in a coffee shop watching their car become ruined by hail. Looking at the
radar loops it seems that that storm moved SE where the red echos died near
Goulburn.

In wollongong today we've only had a few afternoon rumbles from storms
dissipating as they encounter the escarpment - little rain apart from 2
brief heavy showers. Nowra seems to have faired much much better!

Andrew.

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hey all

looking good for eastern australia the next few days!!

http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/cape.gif (150k)

http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/lftx.gif (150k)

regards

steve


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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 22:14:59 +1100
From: Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.net.au]
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Thunderstorms were experienced at Thirroul in the north of the Illawarra around
8pm and after as predicted - some rain but no hail or strong winds here
Kerrie C

Matt Smith wrote:

> The sydney local loop shows some nice area's of red/pink in the illawarra,
> and some weakish cells developing on the ranges near Camden.
>
> SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
> Issued at 1804 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999
>
> This advice replaces the previous advice issued at 4:05pm and affects people
> in the following weather districts:
>
> Illawarra,
> South Coast,
> Southern Tablelands,
> South West Slopes,
> Riverina.
>
> Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area until 9pm.
> Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
> destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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There is a squall line of storms near Ulladulla at 10.30pm. Looks as if it
may just miss Wollongong.

Michael


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> Thunderstorms were experienced at Thirroul in the north of the Illawarra
around
> 8pm and after as predicted - some rain but no hail or strong winds here
> Kerrie C
>
> Matt Smith wrote:
>
> > The sydney local loop shows some nice area's of red/pink in the
illawarra,
> > and some weakish cells developing on the ranges near Camden.
> >
> > SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
> > Issued at 1804 on Wednesday the 8th of December 1999
> >
> > This advice replaces the previous advice issued at 4:05pm and affects
people
> > in the following weather districts:
> >
> > Illawarra,
> > South Coast,
> > Southern Tablelands,
> > South West Slopes,
> > Riverina.
> >
> > Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area until 9pm.
> > Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
> > destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
> >
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Hey all. I've just been informed that a tornado occured in Snowtown in
South Australia today. I have no details on this event as of yet. I was
wondering if anyone knew any details about this severe event. Any info
would be deeply appreciated. Apparently it was pretty destructive with a
number of houses and buildings reported to be severely damaged. I
attempt to find out more. Thanks.

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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Hey Dean,

What was your source? The only thing I know is that in their latest update
of the SA Severe Weather Advice, the Bureau acknowledged that severe storms
had been reported in Arno Bay, Snowtown, Brinkworth, Burra and Yunta during
the day.

I'll be keen to hear more...

Andrew

--
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> From: Dean S 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aus-wx: SA Tornado!
> Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:30 PM
> 
> Hey all. I've just been informed that a tornado occured in Snowtown in
> South Australia today. I have no details on this event as of yet. I was
> wondering if anyone knew any details about this severe event. Any info
> would be deeply appreciated. Apparently it was pretty destructive with a
> number of houses and buildings reported to be severely damaged. I
> attempt to find out more. Thanks.
> 
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Hi Andrew, Dean,

There is no confirmed reports as yet of a tornado hitting the Snowtown area 
this afternoon. Severe wind squalls of up to 122 Km/h were reported and 
also an unconfirmed 40mm of rain, and marble to golf ball sized hail fell also.
Damage was wide spread, with some power poles being bent over, a wheat 
truck which was apparently full was over turned, a Barn was almost 
destroyed, and a few sheds were destroyed during the event.

With the outage of radar it is hard to say at what strength the storm got 
to but periods before and after the outage show significant build up of 
reds and pink, meaning a fairly intense storm system.

I will be adding a description of events as they unfold on this event on 
the official SA Severe Weather page at http://sastorms.virtualave.net I 
will also be including radar and sat images. I will be going personally to 
Snowtown on Friday, so hopefully I can gather some more information then. I 
will also be looking at news footage of the event to see what actually 
happened.

Unfortunately I was working during the time of the event so was unable to 
chase :(

regards
Andrew Wall
SA/NT Division State Representative for the ASWA Inc.
SA Page: http://sastorms.virtualave.net
ASWA Page: http://www.severeweather.asn.au


At 10:40 PM 8/12/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Hey Dean,
>
>What was your source? The only thing I know is that in their latest update
>of the SA Severe Weather Advice, the Bureau acknowledged that severe storms
>had been reported in Arno Bay, Snowtown, Brinkworth, Burra and Yunta during
>the day.
>
>I'll be keen to hear more...
>
>Andrew
>
>--
>Andrew Miskelly
>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
>----------
> > From: Dean S 
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: SA Tornado!
> > Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 11:30 PM
> >
> > Hey all. I've just been informed that a tornado occured in Snowtown in
> > South Australia today. I have no details on this event as of yet. I was
> > wondering if anyone knew any details about this severe event. Any info
> > would be deeply appreciated. Apparently it was pretty destructive with a
> > number of houses and buildings reported to be severely damaged. I
> > attempt to find out more. Thanks.
> >
> >                                                                 Deano
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